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Hook Readers By Page 10: The Secrets Of Character with Matt Bird (Classic Replay EP#573)
2026/10/07
🔁 CLASSIC REPLAY — This episode was originally recorded in 2023 and the writing craft advice is just as relevant today.
Matt Bird is a screenwriter and the author of two craft books for writers, The Secrets of Story and The Secrets of Character: Writing a Hero Anyone Will Love. For the second book he read the first ten pages of dozens of great novels, memoirs, movies and TV pilots, and found the same three moves in nearly all of them: the reader has to believe in your hero, care about their circumstances, and invest their hopes in them. In this episode of the SPA Girls Podcast (EP573) he shows how to land all three before your plot has even started.
Whether you’re drafting an opening chapter, working out why readers aren’t connecting with your lead, or looking for concrete character development tools you can use today, this one is practical from end to end. Matt covers the first page of The Hunger Games, giving a character a unique object and a metaphor family, why repetition beats surprise early on, and how to set, upset and reset reader expectations. Plus why readers pick your hero for you, what James Bond’s first scene tells us about vulnerability, and the single thing he’d tell every writer to do — put an ironic object in their hand.
#SelfPublishing #WritingCraft #IndieAuthor
About Matt Bird
Matt Bird is the author of Secrets of Story, and creator of The Secrets of Story podcast and blog. He has an MFA in screenwriting from Columbia University. He lives and writes in Chicago where he and his wife Betsy are raising two delightful kids.
All episodes of his podcast with James Kennedy, The Secrets of Story: A Screenwriting & Novel Writing Podcast can be found on podcast apps.
Matt’s latest podcast, A Good Story Well Told with co-host Jonathan Auxier, is also on all podcast platforms.
http://www.secretsofstory.com/
🔗 CONNECT WITH THE SPA GIRLS:
🌐 Website & free self-publishing resources at www.selfpublishingauthorspodcast.com
🎧 Subscribe to our weekly episodes on your favourite podcast app — search “SPA Girls Podcast”
❤️ Watch our episode recordings on the SPA Girls Podcast YouTube Channel http://www.youtube.com/c/SPAGirlsPodcast
💗 This podcast is supported by our amazing Patreon community! ⭐ Join at the $10 tier for access to our private Self-Publishing Mastermind group where we discuss marketing, writing, and answer your burning questions: http://www.patreon.com/spagirlspodcast
#authortube #SelfPublishing #IndieAuthor #romancewriter
#SelfPublishing #romancewriter #writingpodcast #writingcommunity
How To Diversify Your Income ft. Craig Martelle (EP#572)
2026/09/30
This is a concrete, numbers-heavy conversation about what diversification actually means for a working author. Million-selling author Craig Martelle has published over 200 books since 2015, across 28 series, and has around 25 different sources of income.
Craig’s definition of Author Diversification is multiple revenue streams, and he counts formats, distributors, languages, genres and co-authors as part of it. He walks through where to start when you’ve only got five books out, why paperback belongs in your Amazon ads, what a SAG-AFTRA narrator really costs and why he pays it anyway, and how he translated nine books into German for almost nothing using three AIs checking each other.
Craig is also very open about his pace pace of publishing. In 2019 he published 30 books in 30 weeks, quadrupled his costs, halved his revenue and ended up having heart surgery the following January. He publishes 12 to 20 books a year now, reads every word of every collaboration, and takes the dog out for two hours a day. The three medical thrillers he co-writes with a surgeon are his current bestsellers, and every dollar they earn goes into an investment account for his grandchildren.
And the golden nugget is the best argument against perfectionism we’ve had on the show: if you rewrite one book ten times you still have one book, but if you write ten books you have ten books’ worth of experience.
In this episode:
From Marine Corps intelligence and Russian linguist work to law school to full-time author in October 2015
Over 200 books, 28 series, and roughly 25 separate sources of income
Buying his first series back from its traditional publisher — and earning the buyout fee back in one month on free YouTube audio
Audiobooks on 40 distributors, plus 70 to 80 titles in libraries while staying in Kindle Unlimited
Why genre counts as diversification: readership ceilings and burnout in a single niche
“Write with the reader in mind” — the Venn diagram of what you know and what people actually read
The first step with five books out: one genre, one series, and learning read-through
Where to diversify next, and how to choose an adjacent genre
Translations and which markets are worth translating for, and which ones aren’t
Formats first: why paperback and a full-wrap cover are the cheapest diversification there is
The Amazon ads trick — bundling ebook and paperback in one sponsored ad to drop your cost per click
Crowdfunding an audiobook you can’t otherwise afford, and the snowball effect across campaigns
Why some books sell and some don’t
Marketing the backlist
Resources mentioned
INaudio (Voices by INaudio) · Chirp (BookBub) · Kindle Unlimited & KDP Select · Kindle Countdown Deals · BookBub featured deals · Kickstarter · BackerKit · SAG-AFTRA · DeepL · Learn Self Publishing (AI translation course) · Baen Books · Become a Successful Indie Author · the A Surgeon’s… medical thrillers with James Toouli · the I, Soldier military sci-fi series · Battleship Leviathan · the Ian Bragg thrillers
About Craig
Craig Martelle is a science fiction, thriller and fantasy author who has sold millions of books worldwide.
Before he became an author, he had a long career in the Marine Corps, specifically in the military intelligence community where he worked with most of the U.S. Government’s three-letter agencies. When he retired from the Marine Corps, he attended law school, graduated summa cum laude, and went into business consulting.
Craig was also the original organizer of the 20Books Conference in Las Vegas, which he ran for many years, and he now organizes writing retreats for both beginner and more experienced authors around the world. He also writes non-fiction to help indie authors be more successful in this industry.
Through a bizarre series of events, Craig now lives in in Fairbanks, Alaska. He says he never expected to retire to a place where golf courses are only open for four months out of the year, but he and his wife get to watch the northern lights from their driveway and their dog has lots of room to run – until temperatures reach fifty below zero.
🎧 Subscribe to our weekly episodes on your favourite podcast app — search “SPA Girls Podcast”
❤️ Watch our episode recordings on the SPA Girls Podcast YouTube Channel http://www.youtube.com/c/SPAGirlsPodcast
💗 This podcast is supported by our amazing Patreon community! ⭐ Join at the $10 tier for access to our private Self-Publishing Mastermind group where we discuss marketing, writing, and answer your burning questions: http://www.patreon.com/spagirlspodcast
#authortube #SelfPublishing #IndieAuthor #romancewriter
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Writing Short Romance That Sells ft. Lana Love (Classic Replay EP#571)
2026/09/23
USA Today bestselling author Lana Love writes short romance: 15,000-word books with curvy heroines and protective heroes. She publishes one a month and has more than 60 out. Her income doubled when one book in her Mountain Men series took off and lifted her whole backlist, and she did it with very little advertising. In this episode of the SPA Girls Podcast (EP571), she walks us through exactly how.
The core move works on any backlist. Lana listed her ten best-reviewed books, her ten highest-rated books and her best sellers, then looked for what they had in common. The answer was military, blue-collar, protective heroes in small towns. That became her Heartland Heroes world, and the eleventh book in it is the one that took off.
She also covers how she picked an Amazon Short Reads category where the top 100 was within reach, why trope-forward titles like Rugged Loner outsell clever ones, and how a free bonus epilogue brings in newsletter subscribers who open 40–45% of her emails. Plus shared-world collaborations, building complementary character wounds, and fitting a full romance arc into 15,000 words.
🔁 CLASSIC REPLAY — This episode was originally recorded in 2024 (EP468) and the strategy is just as relevant today.
#SelfPublishing #ShortRomance #IndieAuthor
👤 ABOUT LANA LOVE:
Lana Love is the USA Today bestselling author of short romance featuring curvy heroines and the strong men who move heaven and earth to win them.
https://loveheartbooks.com/
📚 RESOURCES MENTIONED:
BookFunnel: https://bookfunnel.com
BookBub: https://www.bookbub.com
Stuff Your Kindle: https://stuffyourkindle.com
Becca Syme — Strengths for Writers: https://www.betterfasteracademy.com
🔗 CONNECT WITH THE SPA GIRLS:
🌐 Website & free self-publishing resources:
http://www.SelfPublishingAuthorsPodcast.com
🎧 Listen on your favourite podcast app — search “SPA Girls Podcast”
💗 This podcast is supported by our amazing Patreon community!
⭐ Join at the $10 tier for access to our private Self-Publishing Mastermind group where we discuss marketing, writing, and answer your burning questions:
http://www.patreon.com/spagirlspodcast
Subscribe so you never miss an episode!
#WritingCommunity #WritingPodcast
The Successful Author Mindset – Get Focused Without The Overwhelm (EP#570)
2026/09/16
Four authors, more than a decade of self-publishing, over 300 books published combined, and four very different takes on the successful author mindset. Cheryl, Shar, Wendy and Trudi share what keeps them writing through industry shake-ups, sales dips and busy family life.
Cheryl runs her whole life from one diary. Wendy’s words for the day get written that day, no exceptions. Shar caps her social media at five-minute blocks and logs every small win. Trudi writes first thing, has dropped deadlines altogether, and works best with plenty going on around her.
The one rule we all agree on: pick two new tactics, give them a real chance, then try the next two. Plus how to carve out writing time when your family wants you now, Renee Rose’s trick for turning comparison into motivation, what to do when the sales graph dips and LOTS more!
Mentioned in the episode:
Becca Syme – listen to her episodes with us on EP524, EP487 and EP146
J. Gabriel Gates: EP568
Nalini Singh: Worldbuilding episode with us EP363
Sacha Black: EP422
Renee Rose: EP512
ScreenZen app
Romance Writers of New Zealand: romancewriters.co.nz
🔗 CONNECT WITH THE SPA GIRLS:
🌐 Website & free self-publishing resources: http://www.SelfPublishingAuthorsPodcast.com
🎧 Subscribe to our weekly episodes on your favourite podcast app — search “SPA Girls Podcast”
❤️ Watch our episode recordings on the SPA Girls Podcast You Tube Channel http://www.youtube.com/c/SPAGirlsPodcast
💗 This podcast is supported by our amazing Patreon community! ⭐ Join at the $10 tier for access to our private Self-Publishing Mastermind group where we discuss marketing, writing, and answer your burning questions: http://www.patreon.com/spagirlspodcast
#SelfPublishing #romancewriter #writingpodcast #indieauthor
Make Your Writing Goals to Stick ft. Erin Marcus (Classic Replay EP#569)
2026/09/09
Be in charge, take action, get results. 🎯 Most of us stay stuck because we’ve never actually decided what we want. Business coach Erin Marcus on working out the outcome, reverse engineering the steps, and putting a date on it. 📅 A classic replay, and all of it still applies. ✨
Her starting point is that most people don’t get what they want because they’ve never decided what it is. Others know, but don’t believe they’re allowed to have it. Either way there’s nothing to reverse engineer from, so the work becomes what Erin calls random acts of marketing.
The fix is a process: Decide. Take action. Look at what came back. Decide again. Erin writes out what she wants every morning because it makes the rest of the day’s decisions easier. She works in specific outcomes rather than feelings, because feelings are vague enough to let you off the hook. Then she asks the question that stops most people: when is it happening? Put it on the calendar, then live by the calendar.
There’s a long stretch for writers in the middle. Trudi once spent an hour with Erin trying to decide whether she wrote urban fantasy or paranormal romance. Erin’s read was that the decision was giving her a reason not to start. Start the book — the genre settles once the book exists. Pick a niche for now rather than forever. And a lot of the subgenre agonising exists because Amazon needs a category to sell ads against, not because readers need one.
In this episode:
Why most people are stuck: they haven’t decided what they want, or don’t believe they can have it
Reverse engineering the steps from the outcome
“Random acts of marketing” and where they come from
Wanting the impossible: if the outcome depends on other people behaving, it isn’t yours to have
Erin’s daily written practice, and why she does it before anything else
Start with what you don’t want, if that’s easier
Specific outcomes beat feelings, because vague language is where we let ourselves off the hook
Be in charge, take action, get results, then decide again
Why self-trust shortens the gap between deciding and doing
Fear and habit: your brain’s job is to keep you alive, not to make you happy
How fear turns up as overwhelm, confusion and distraction
“When is it happening?” — putting it on the calendar and living by it
Debriefing monthly, and after every marketing event
Three or four goes is starting, not trying
Recovery speed over perfection — what used to cost a year now costs a moment
Observing your own behaviour without the judgement
A niche for now, not forever
“I don’t pivot, I iterate” — and the companies that didn’t
Why subgenres matter more to Amazon’s ad categories than to your reader
Reading the physical signal: what a clenched feeling tells you, and what excitement tells you
Inspired action plus infinite possibilities equals inevitable results
Turning away from the problem to find the answer
Being lit up about your work is what gets you marketing it
Your commitment to the outcome has to be bigger than your fear of the thing
Writing the books and growing the business are two different skills
Why none of us can see our own patterns, and who you let tell you the truth
About Erin Marcus
Erin Marcus is a business coach and consultant with more than 25 years of mentoring, training and coaching behind her.
🔗 Find Erin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erinmarcus/
📌 Erin’s YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@ErinMarcusUntamedSuccess
📌 Note on this replay: since we recorded this in May 2023, Erin has moved on from Conquer Your Business, so the website mentioned in the episode is out of date. Find her on LinkedIn instead: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erinmarcus/
🔗 CONNECT WITH THE SPA GIRLS:
🌐 Website & free self-publishing resources: http://www.SelfPublishingAuthorsPodcast.com
🎧 Subscribe to our weekly episodes on your favourite podcast app — search “SPA Girls Podcast”
❤️ Watch our episode recordings on the SPA Girls Podcast You Tube Channel http://www.youtube.com/c/SPAGirlsPodcast
💗 This podcast is supported by our amazing Patreon community! ⭐ Join at the $10 tier for access to our private Self-Publishing Mastermind group where we discuss marketing, writing, and answer your burning questions: http://www.patreon.com/spagirlspodcast
#authortube #SelfPublishing #IndieAuthor #romancewriter
#SelfPublishing #romancewriter #writingpodcast #writingcommunity
Writing & Marketing Romantasy ft. J. Gabriel Gates (EP#568)
2026/09/03
J. Gabriel Gates — who writes romantasy as G.J. Gates — has a full-time job he loves and a self-funded publishing business. He opens every book launch with a Kickstarter, and that money becomes his entire advertising budget. In this episode of the SPA Girls Podcast (EP568) he walks us through going indie after traditional publishing, writing a genre he’d never touched, and the ten-second video that reached 1.6 million people.
Whether you’re changing genres, growing a social account from scratch, or working out where an ad budget is going to come from, this one is practical tips packed in: BookTok and Instagram hooks that convert, why the simplest video wins, Amazon ads to train your also-boughts, feeding Kickstarter money straight into Facebook ads, and how Jacob writes seven days a week around a day job he genuinely loves.
About Jacob
J. G. Gates (who also writes as J. Gabriel Gates) is the author of fantasy, horror, and sci-fi books, including the Dragons and Aces, the Luck Gods Series, The Lamplighters, The Sleepwalkers, Blood Zero Sky, and more.
After receiving his B.A. in theater from Florida State University, Gates moved to Los Angeles, where he acted in a dozen national TV commercials and wrote screenplays that were optioned by Hollywood producers. He is an alum of Spalding University’s MFA in writing program, and has taught college writing at Kellogg Community College and Olivet College. He has also worked as a ghostwriter and editor.
Gates is a dad of three and a city council representative in his small Michigan town. When not writing books, he works as the executive director of a prominent regional arts organization. He also enjoys live storytelling and has appeared on stage at The Moth. Some of his other interests include, running, biking, playing music, and making dumb TikTok videos.
https://jgabrielgates.net
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📚 RESOURCES MENTIONED:
Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com
BookVault (special edition printing): https://bookvault.app
Monica Leonelle: https://monicaleonelle.com
Canva: https://www.canva.com
Authors Review Books (Jacob’s podcast): https://authorsreviewbooks.com
🔗 CONNECT WITH THE SPA GIRLS:
🌐 Website & free self-publishing resources: http://www.SelfPublishingAuthorsPodcast.com
🎧 Subscribe to our weekly episodes on your favourite podcast app — search “SPA Girls Podcast”
❤️ Watch our episode recordings on the SPA Girls Podcast You Tube Channel http://www.youtube.com/c/SPAGirlsPodcast
💗 This podcast is supported by our amazing Patreon community! ⭐ Join at the $10 tier for access to our private Self-Publishing Mastermind group where we discuss marketing, writing, and answer your burning questions: http://www.patreon.com/spagirlspodcast
Collaboration, Box Sets & Beating Burnout ft. Asa Maria Bradley (Classic Replay EP#567)
2026/08/26
Burnt out and not writing? Bestselling paranormal romance and urban fantasy author Asa Maria Bradley went two years without finishing much of anything — and it was collaborating with other indie authors that got her writing again. In this episode we dig into anthologies, box sets, shared worlds and author collectives, and exactly how each one works for a self-published author.
Superdraft – How To Write Better and Faster – with Thomas Dean Donnelly (EP#566)
2026/08/19
Screenwriter and thriller author Thomas Dean Donnelly joins the SPA Girls Podcast to explain Superdraft, his evidence-based approach to the writing process. Learn how to separate your Creator voice from your Critic voice, beat writer’s block and imposter syndrome, use flow states to write faster, and apply the 1-3-2 drafting method to fix a sagging second act. Essential listening for indie authors and self-published writers who struggle to finish a first draft.
In this episode we discuss:
Why the 2023 Hollywood writers’ strike pushed a 30-year screenwriter into self-publishing
What screenwriters get wrong when they first write novels (hello, head hopping)
Why there are hundreds of books on writing craft and almost none on writing process
The marathon comparison: 70% of marathon trainees finish, but only 11-12% of NaNoWriMo starters finish a novel
The Creator and the Critic — the two voices in every writer’s head, and why they’re mutually exclusive
Why you have to write the bad words before you can write the good words
Iteration versus inspiration, and why you need both but never at the same time
Which stage of writing belongs to which voice: brainstorming, outlining, drafting, editing
Critic Trick #1: research — plus the IOUZ placeholder system and timed research sprints
Critic Trick #2: rereading yesterday’s pages — and the voice memo workaround
Critic Trick #3: the Big Idea that wants you to go back and start over
Manufacturing flow: walking habits, green spaces, blue spaces and the shower effect
The 1-3-2 method — write your first act, then your third act, then your second
Tom’s Malcolm Chaucer spy thriller series and the cozy mysteries he’s writing as a palate cleanser
About Thomas Dean Donnelly
Thomas Dean Donnelly was born in New Jersey but has been living and writing in Los Angeles as a screenwriter for more than 30 years. In that time he has written on projects that have grossed over a billion dollars worldwide. He has adapted the classic works of writers such as Ray Bradbury, Clive Cussler, Stan Lee and Robert E. Howard, and worked on franchises from Voltron to Uncharted, and from Marvel’s Doctor Strange to The Walking Dead. His feature credits include Sahara starring Matthew McConaughey, and Conan the Barbarian.
In 2023 he turned his hand to writing thriller novels, and now has three books in the Malcolm Chaucer series under the pen name T.D. Donnelly, with a fourth arriving in November. His book on the writing process, Superdraft, releases in September 2026.
You can find him early mornings walking the beaches of Southern California, and spending time with his wife, two mostly grown children, and two very demanding guinea pigs.
Find Tom at tddonnelly.com
Resources mentioned
SPS Live London — where Tom has delivered the Superdraft talk
Superdraft: The Art and Science of Better, Faster Writing — releasing September 2026
Year of the Sheep — free prequel novella when you join Tom’s reader group
Christopher Vogler, The Writer’s Journey — Tom worked with Vogler early in his Hollywood career
NaNoWriMo / National Novel Writing Month completion statistics
20Books Vegas / Author Nation — where Tom was first told to write novels
🔗 CONNECT WITH THE SPA GIRLS:
🌐 Website & free self-publishing resources: http://www.SelfPublishingAuthorsPodcast.com
🎧 Subscribe to our weekly episodes on your favourite podcast app — search “SPA Girls Podcast”
❤️ Watch our episode recordings on the SPA Girls Podcast You Tube Channel http://www.youtube.com/c/SPAGirlsPodcast
💗 This podcast is supported by our amazing Patreon community! ⭐ Join at the $10 tier for access to our private Self-Publishing Mastermind group where we discuss marketing, writing, and answer your burning questions: http://www.patreon.com/spagirlspodcast
#SelfPublishing #romancewriter #writingpodcast #writingcommunity
Sell More Books With Every Launch – Series Launch Strategy ft. Helen B. Scheuerer (Classic Replay EP#565)
2026/08/12
Is your back matter costing you sales? Bestselling fantasy author Helen B. Scheuerer joins us to break down exactly how to launch a book series — from optimising your back matter for read-through, to pre-order strategy, ARC campaigns, and building a street team that generates real buzz.
In this Classic Replay episode, Helen shares the launch strategies behind her book How To Launch A Successful Series. Whether you’re a new indie author planning your first book launch or a seasoned self-published author looking to level up your release strategy, you’ll walk away with practical tactics: the “rank vs bank” pre-order debate, why buffer time saves your sanity, and how to run a street team on Discord that turns readers into cheerleaders.
👤 ABOUT HELEN B. SCHEUERER:
Helen B. Scheuerer is the bestselling fantasy author of The Oremere Chronicles, Curse of the Cyren Queen, and The Legends of Thezmarr. Her work has been praised for its strong, flawed female characters and action-packed plots. She also publishes advice for authors through her nonfiction series, Books For Career Authors, and has been a full-time author since 2018.
🔗 https://www.helenscheuerer.com
📚 RESOURCES MENTIONED:
How To Launch A Successful Series by Helen B. Scheuere
How To Write A Successful Series by Helen B. Scheuerer
BookFunnel (for ARC delivery): https://bookfunnel.com
🔗 CONNECT WITH THE SPA GIRLS:
🌐 Website & free self-publishing resources: http://www.SelfPublishingAuthorsPodcast.com
🎧 Listen on your favourite podcast app — search “SPA Girls Podcast”
💗 This podcast is supported by our amazing Patreon community!
⭐ Join at the $10 tier for access to our private Self-Publishing Mastermind group where we discuss marketing, writing, and answer your burning questions: http://www.patreon.com/spagirlspodcast
Subscribe so you never miss an episode!
#WritingCommunity #WritingPodcast
Should You Change Genres? 5 Key Questions To Help You Make The Leap Successfully (EP#564)
2026/08/05
Dreaming of writing in a new genre?
In this episode of the SPA Girls Podcast (EP564), all four SPA Girls answer a listener’s question about switching genres as a self-published author, including how Cheryl knew it was the right time to move from contemporary romance to cozy mysteries. Whether your books aren’t selling, you’re bored with your current genre, or a new trend is calling your name, this episode gives you a 5-question framework to make the decision with confidence.
Changing genres is one of the biggest decisions in an indie author career — it can mean a new pen name, new covers, new marketing, and starting your readership from scratch. We unpack when a genre switch makes sense, when a tweak to your current genre is the smarter move, and how to test a new genre before you commit.
#SelfPublishing #IndieAuthor #AuthorTips
1️⃣ Check your motivation — are you running FROM something or stepping TOWARD something?
2️⃣ Check your relationship with your current genre — would a tweak fix it?
3️⃣ Check your timing — where are you in your career and catalogue?
4️⃣ Check your brand and readers — will they follow you?
5️⃣ Check your practical reality — so you can plan your switch for success
🔗 CONNECT WITH THE SPA GIRLS:
🌐 Website & free self-publishing resources: http://www.SelfPublishingAuthorsPodcast.com
🎧 Subscribe to our weekly episodes on your favourite podcast app — search “SPA Girls Podcast”
❤️ Watch our episode recordings on the SPA Girls Podcast You Tube Channel http://www.youtube.com/c/SPAGirlsPodcast
💗 This podcast is supported by our amazing Patreon community!
⭐ Join at the $10 tier for access to our private Self-Publishing Mastermind group where we discuss marketing, writing, and answer your burning questions: http://www.patreon.com/spagirlspodcast
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Debunking Publishing Myths & How To Beat Procrastination ft. Rachael Herron (Classic Replay EP#563)
2026/07/29
This episode was originally recorded in 2021. We’re replaying it because the advice hasn’t aged a day.
Most writers don’t have a talent problem. They have a fear problem.
In this Classic Replay, internationally bestselling author Rachael Herron joins Trudi, Shar, Cheryl and Wendy to talk about why fear is the real engine behind procrastination, what to actually do about it, and three publishing myths that need to die.
Rachael has written more than two dozen books across thriller, mainstream fiction, feminist romance, memoir and nonfiction for writers. She publishes both traditionally and independently, which makes her one of the most useful people to ask about how those two paths really compare — money included.
What we cover:
How seven years of not writing ended with a 50,000-word NaNoWriMo draft — and a three-book deal at auction
What a six-figure, three-book New York deal actually paid her per year after taxes and agent commission
Why she’s never earned out a US advance, and what “earning out” really means
How keeping ANZ rights separate accidentally launched her self-publishing career
Why she now makes more from self-publishing than from traditional
Three publishing myths worth killing: that you need a degree, that a big advance means you can quit your job, and that publishers market better than you do
Ira Glass’s “gap” theory, and why your good taste is the thing making you miserable
Building a “trash mountain” first draft on purpose
Her revision toolbox: the sentence outline, 100 Post-its, and writing forward as if you’ve already fixed it
Practical anti-procrastination tactics — the café with no Wi-Fi, the check-in buddy, the 45-minute burst
Swapping your to-do list for a “ta-da list”
Writing across multiple genres, and what it costs you
Rachael’s one piece of advice: write “Don’t wait” on a Post-it and stick it on your computer.
About Rachael Herron
Rachael Herron (also writing as R.H. Herron) is the USA Today and internationally bestselling author of more than two dozen books. She received her MFA in writing from Mills College, Oakland, and has taught writing extension workshops at UC Berkeley and Stanford. Her most recent novel is The Seven Miracles of Beatrix Holland. She lives in Wellington, Aotearoa New Zealand.
Find Rachael: rachaelherron.com | How Do You Write podcast | Resources for writers
Note since recording: NaNoWriMo closed as an organisation in March 2025. For a structured drafting challenge, try Sarra Cannon’s Rough Draft Challenge at roughdraftchallenge.com
🔗 CONNECT WITH THE SPA GIRLS:
🌐 Website & free self-publishing resources: http://www.SelfPublishingAuthorsPodcast.com
🎧 Subscribe to our weekly episodes on your favourite podcast app — search “SPA Girls Podcast”
❤️ Watch our episode recordings on the SPA Girls Podcast You Tube Channel http://www.youtube.com/c/SPAGirlsPodcast
💗 This podcast is supported by our amazing Patreon community! ⭐ Join at the $10 tier for access to our private Self-Publishing Mastermind group where we discuss marketing, writing, and answer your burning questions: http://www.patreon.com/spagirlspodcast
Writing Fear & Emotion That Hooks Readers ft. Becca Puglisi (EP#562)
2026/07/22
Why do some characters feel real enough to root for while others fall flat despite having every “correct” ingredient? In this episode of the SPA Girls Podcast (EP562), we dive into writing fear and emotion with Becca Puglisi, international speaker, writing coach, and bestselling co-author of The Emotion Thesaurus. Becca’s writing craft books have sold over 1.4 million copies and are used by novelists, screenwriters, and universities worldwide.
Becca unpacks the difference between surface-level fear and the deep, wound-driven fear that powers a character’s arc — and how to weave it through your whole story without spelling it out. We talk showing vs. telling emotion, the danger of over-aware characters who kill reader empathy, using setting to amplify feeling, how fear drives the plot through turning points and choices, and why villains weaponise fear while protagonists learn to overcome it. Whether you’re a plotter or a “messy middle” pantser, this one will change how you build characters readers can’t stop caring about.
If your book isn’t working, the problem might be that you haven’t nailed your character’s fear yet.
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👤 ABOUT BECCA PUGLISI:
Becca Puglisi is the bestselling co-author of The Emotion Thesaurus series (with Angela Ackerman), an international speaker and writing coach whose resources have sold over 1.4 million copies worldwide. She’s the co-founder of the Writers Helping Writers blog and One Stop for Writers, home to the Character Builder and Storyteller’s Roadmap tools.
🔗 RESOURCES MENTIONED:
Writers Helping Writers blog: https://writershelpingwriters.net
One Stop for Writers: https://onestopforwriters.com
The Fear Thesaurus (Becca’s newest release)
The Emotion Thesaurus & the full thesaurus series
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Turning Down a Six-Figure Trad Deal & Building a Sustainable Indie Author Career, ft. Brenna Aubrey (Classic Replay EP#561)
2026/07/15
This week we’re revisiting a favourite conversation with USA Today bestselling author Brenna Aubrey — and it’s a masterclass in both bold business decisions and long-term career survival.
Brenna takes us right back to the beginning: writing sprawling epic fantasy at night while her husband worked the graveyard shift, stumbling into her local RWA chapter, and the shower-thought that became her breakout gamer romance, At Any Price. Then came the moment that made her something of a self-publishing legend — her debut went to auction, two houses landed in a bidding war, and Brenna told her agent there was a third bidder: herself. She walked away from a six-figure, three-book deal to go indie… and made back more than that offer in her first year.
Brenna is refreshingly honest about the long fall that can follow a big high, including the online criticism she wasn’t prepared for, and walks us through the mindset practices that brought her back (mindfulness, meditation, EFT tapping, gratitude journaling, time in nature, and Becca Syme’s strengths work), and why “anxiety lies, depression lies” became a mantra.
On the business side, Brenna shares her framework for career longevity. Whether you’re weighing traditional vs indie, clawing your way out of a rough patch, or thinking about how to keep this career going for the long haul, Brenna’s warmth and honesty will leave you feeling seen — and hopeful.
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In this episode:
The bidding war — and why Brenna became her own “third bidder”
Trad vs indie: the scheduling, cover, and non-compete red flags that made her choose self-publishing
The crash after the high, and why mindset is “a full-time job”
Brenna’s practical mindset toolkit for anxiety and burnout
Trying something new: co-writing, serializing, and new genres as career fuel
“Series 2.0”: rebranding covers and moving wide → KU
Why less-is-more back matter converts better
Her one golden nugget for career longevity
Links & resources mentioned:
Brenna Aubrey’s website: https://brennaaubrey.net/
Becca Syme — Strengths for Writers (QuitBooks / Better-Faster Academy)
Zoe York — Romance Your Brand / Series 2.0
Penny Reid (cover branding help)
Headspace app; “Therapy in a Nutshell” (YouTube); EFT tapping
SPA Girls episodes with Zoe York – EP#335, EP#226, EP#65
About Brenna Aubrey
Brenna is a USA TODAY Bestselling Author of contemporary romance featuring geek culture. Her bestselling romance series, Gaming The System, is available in eBook and print format across all vendors.
When she’s not dreaming up people and worlds and writing them down, she’s also a mom, wife, teacher, avid reader, a proud geek-girl, a self-confessed gaming addict, a French-speaking Francophile, lover of nature and beautiful sunsets.
Find her at www.brennaaubrey.net
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❤️ Watch our episode recordings on our YouTube Channel http://www.youtube.com/c/SPAGirlsPodcast
💗 This podcast is supported by our amazing Patreon community! ⭐ Join at the $10 tier for access to our private Self-Publishing Mastermind group where we discuss marketing, writing, and answer your burning questions: http://www.patreon.com/spagirlspodcast
#authortube #SelfPublishing #IndieAuthor #romancewriter
#SelfPublishing #romancewriter #writingpodcast #writingcommunity
Cracking the German Book Market ft. USA Today Bestseller Skye MacKinnon (EP#560)
2026/07/08
Germany is the third-biggest book market in the world — and it’s still hungry for indie authors. This week we’re joined by USA Today bestselling romance author Skye MacKinnon, who returns to update us on everything that’s changed in German translations since her first appearance in 2023. Skye has more than 70 novels across three pen names, and Germany is now her biggest market worldwide.
She’s just released the second edition of Self-Publishing in German, and it’s more than double the length of the original — because there was that much to update. From the collapse of IngramSpark distribution in Germany to Tolino’s new audiobook feature, from why print books still matter to how gorgeously the Germans do special editions, Skye walks us through what indie authors need to know in 2026.
IN THIS EPISODE WE COVER:
What’s changed in the German market since 2023 (spoiler: a lot)
Why IngramSpark no longer works for German distribution — and what to use instead
The Tolino Alliance: how German booksellers built a genuine Amazon alternative
The fixed-price law every wide author needs to understand before publishing in Germany
Why print books still sell — and why German special editions are on another level
How to market in a language you don’t speak (and why you already have most of the content)
Cover trends: object covers vs man-chest, and why German romance covers look different
Genres that thrive in Germany — including one surprising winner (hint: Westerns)
The Impressum, title protection, and other legal must-knows
Why translators legally own the copyright of your translation (and why that’s fine)
Reader behaviour: Lovely Books, newsletter engagement, and the Rare signing surprise
Is it still worth entering the German market in 2026? Skye’s honest answer
Whether you’re translation-curious or already have German books and want to sell more of them, this one’s packed with practical, up-to-date advice from someone actually doing it.
👤 ABOUT SKYE MacKINNON:
Skye B. MacKinnon is a Scottish USA Today bestselling romance author who has written 70+ novels across multiple pen names, including 50 adult novels and 20 children’s books (as Isla Wynter). A former journalist, she’s been a full-time author since 2018 and has been publishing in German since 2020 — where her books have been featured in hundreds of Thalia bookstores, hit number one in Apple Books Germany’s free chart, and won the Tolino All-Star Favorites Award for Children’s Book in 2025. She’s an admin of the Wide for the Win group and consults with indie authors on breaking into the German market.
🔗 www.skyemackinnon.com
📚 RESOURCES MENTIONED:
Self-Publishing in German: Second Edition — Skye’s book (available direct from skyemackinnon.com, plus all major retailers)
Marketing German Indie Book Translations — Skye’s Facebook group for authors translating into German
Tolino Alliance — the German bookseller ecosystem that’s roughly equal in size to Amazon Germany
Lovely Books — the German equivalent of Goodreads
Findaway Voices / InAudio — audiobook distribution
Wide for the Win — Facebook group Skye admins for wide indie authors
🔗 CONNECT WITH THE SPA GIRLS:
🌐 Website & free self-publishing resources: http://www.SelfPublishingAuthorsPodcast.com
🎧 Subscribe to our weekly episodes on your favourite podcast app — search “SPA Girls Podcast”
💗 This podcast is supported by our amazing Patreon community! ⭐ Join at the $10 tier for access to our private Self-Publishing Mastermind group where we discuss marketing, writing, and answer your burning questions: http://www.patreon.com/spagirlspodcast
#authortube #SelfPublishing #IndieAuthor #romancewriter
#SelfPublishing #romancewriter #writingpodcast #writingcommunity
How to Write a Book Series Readers Binge ft. Helen Scheuerer (Classic Replay EP#559)
2026/07/01
Want to write a book series readers binge — and come back to buy again and again? Bestselling YA fantasy author Helen Scheuerer joins the SPA Girls to break down how to design a series that hooks readers, boosts your read-through rate, and sets you up for long-term author income. Whether you’re plotting your first trilogy or wondering if your genre even suits a series, this episode covers the strategy behind binge-worthy fiction.
Helen shares the real reasons a series is more lucrative than standalones (hint: you build your audience once), how to use open loops, breadcrumbs, and cliffhangers to pull readers into the next instalment, and why a working series bible will save you serious time and heartache. She also unpacks exit and expansion strategies so a slow-selling — or runaway-hit — series never traps you.
🔁 CLASSIC REPLAY — This episode was originally recorded in 2022 and the series-building advice is just as relevant today.
#SelfPublishing #WriteAStory #IndieAuthor
📌 IN THIS EPISODE:
00:00 — Introduction & catching up with Helen
03:30 — What actually counts as a “series” (dynamic vs static)
06:00 — Why a series is more lucrative than standalones
10:30 — How many books should a series be? (and why not to lock it in)
14:00 — Literary universes & rewarding long-term readers
19:00 — How Helen plans a brand-new series from scratch
27:00 — Open loops, breadcrumbs & cliffhangers explained
38:00 — Series arc vs individual book arcs
47:00 — Keeping a series bible (and why every genre needs one)
58:00 — Does any genre NOT suit a series?
👤 ABOUT HELEN SCHEUERER:
Helen Scheuerer is the bestselling YA fantasy author of The Oremere Chronicles and the Curse of the Cyren Queen quartet, known for strong, flawed female characters and action-packed plots often likened to Sarah J. Maas. She holds a Bachelor of Creative Writing and a Masters of Publishing, and now writes full-time from the mountains of New Zealand. Her non-fiction guide, How to Write a Successful Series, distils everything she’s learned across two bestselling series.
🔗 https://helenscheuerer.com/
📚 RESOURCES MENTIONED:
• How To Write A Successful Series: Writing Strategies For Authors by Helen B. Scheuerer: https://helenscheuerer.com/
• Romancing the Beat by Gwen Hayes
• The One Page Novel outline by Derek Murphy
🔗 CONNECT WITH THE SPA GIRLS:
🌐 Website & free self-publishing resources:
http://www.SelfPublishingAuthorsPodcast.com
🎧 Listen on your favourite podcast app —
search “SPA Girls Podcast”
💗 This podcast is supported by our amazing Patreon community!
⭐ Join at the $10 tier for access to our private Self-Publishing Mastermind group where we discuss marketing, writing, and answer your burning questions:
http://www.patreon.com/spagirlspodcast
Subscribe so you never miss an episode!
#WritingCommunity #WritingPodcast
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Leah Marie Ezra 2024/10/26
Favorite!
Great information, and lots of different viewpoints and perspectives. These authors give helpful insights, ask challenging questions, and always give ...
MegNucks 2023/08/25
Needs more than 5 stars
Everything, I mean, EVERYTHING you need to get started as a total newbie in indie publishing or level up an existing career. WITHOUT. OVERWHELM.
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Love this show!
Listening to these ladies is like having a warm hug and a cuppa with four brilliant big sisters. Between them and their guests, they have seen and don...
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What a fun show!
Great group of ladies and a great show! So helpful. Happy to have found this.
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Love these ladies!
I’m a brand new writer and just found you ladies through a FB group. I have been binging episodes for a week now and have loved each one! Each episode...
Nickie Cochran 2022/05/26
Fun and Super-Informative Podcast
I’ve been listening to the SPA Girls for a while now and am always excited when a new episode shows up on my list. The girls are so much fun, but don’...
Stanleybt 2021/07/15
Episode 299
Thanks for the episode. Encouraged me to redo and update.
Jillian Walsh author 2020/12/31
One of my favorite podcasts
These women are great to listen to. I love the banter, but I also love the information and insight they have. Highly recommend.
MK From the Lou 2020/12/23
Like having a friend in your ear
The podcast has quickly become one of my must listen shows! Great chemistry and guests. I’m binging my way through old episodes. Many thanks, ladies.
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Great resource
Thanks to Lucy Score for introducing me to the SPA Girls. I love Lucy’s books so I listened to her episode and now I am a SPA Girls fan too! I have b...
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