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2015/11/27
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2026/09/30
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We created A Tale of Two Hygienists in 2015 because we are passionate about helping our fellow clinicians be the best version of themselves, both professionally and personally. We Interview experts in their fields to provide better care for our patients while promoting the joys of being a dental hygienist.
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558 Bone Health, Hormones, and the Clinician Behind the Care
2026/09/30
Every patient who sits in our chair brings more than just a mouth with them. Hormones, bone health, medications, and life stage can all influence what we see clinically.
In this episode, Jessica and Dave explore the connection between hormonal changes, bone health, and oral health—and why dental hygienists play an important role in recognizing the clues, starting conversations, and helping patients get the care they need.
What We Talked About:
How hormones and bone health influence oral health throughout a patient's lifetime
What clinicians may notice during puberty, pregnancy, perimenopause, menopause, and beyond
Oral signs that may point to broader systemic or bone-health concerns
Why early screening can impact long-term health outcomes
Red flags and risk factors for premature bone loss and poor bone quality
How to discuss osteoporosis, bone density, and medications with patients
How to approach sensitive conversations with compassion and confidence
Three practical things every hygienist can start doing tomorrow
The Big Takeaway
The mouth can provide important clues about what is happening throughout the body. Understanding the connections between hormones, bone health, and oral health can help clinicians recognize risks earlier and provide more informed, whole-patient care.
Contact the guest:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-evans-bs-mcl-rdh-thephrdh
Website: https://kristinevansrdh.wixsite.com/my-site-2
Net32 Podcast Chat- Periodontal Communication and Seed Planting- guiding a path to health
2026/09/26
Jessica and Dave welcome Dr. Pamela Ray to discuss how hygienists can improve periodontal communication, help patients take ownership of their disease, and guide them toward informed decisions about their health.
This episode was brought to you by our friends at Net32.
What We Talked About:
Overcoming barriers to periodontal treatment acceptance.
Using the oral-systemic connection to motivate patients.
Effective language and communication strategies.
Strengthening communication with periodontists, physicians, and referral sources.
Handling patients who delay or decline treatment.
Practical tips for creating meaningful conversations that lead to action.
Call to Action:
Find your passion while practicing patient care.
Guest: Dr. Pamela Ray — [email protected]
Hosts: Jessica and Dave — [email protected] | [email protected]
557 Changing the Paradigm for Treating TMD
2026/09/23
Temporomandibular disorders (TMD) affect millions of patients, yet they remain widely misunderstood.
In this episode, Jessica and Dave explore a new way of thinking about TMD with Dr. Anthony Urbanek. After 36 years of performing TMJ surgery, Dr. Urbanek stopped and began researching the disease to better understand its causes and develop a nonsurgical approach.
What We Talked About:
Why the traditional TMD treatment paradigm needs to change
Common myths and misconceptions about TMD
The connection between occlusion, muscles, joints, inflammation, and symptoms
Why hygienists can be the first line of defense in TMD screening
Early recognition and practical screening strategies
Conservative, evidence-based approaches to TMD management
Helping patients understand their condition and treatment options
Where TMD research and treatment are headed
The big takeaway: The old paradigm treats symptoms. The new paradigm starts by understanding the disease.
Resources:
www.urbanektmj.com
https://www.dentalproductsreport.com/view/urbanek-tmj-device-is-designed-to-relieve-the-inflammation-that-causes-temporomandibular-disorder
https://www.dentaleconomics.com/science-tech/article/14299097/taking-the-bite-out-of-tmd
https://hub.dentalentrepreneur.com/podcasts/the-future-of-dentistry/episodes/2148166983
Contact Guest:
[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/TMJServicesofBrentwood
https://www.instagram.com/TMJServicesofBrentwood/
Contact the Hosts:
Jessica Atkinson: [email protected]
Dave Torres: [email protected]
Treat the Biology, Not Just the Symptoms: Personalized Home Care for Dental Hygiene Patients Sponsored by Perio Protect
2026/09/19
In this tipisode, Amanda Hill - RDH explores the importance of biology-driven home care recommendations and why a one-size-fits-all approach may not meet every patient's needs.
From chronic inflammation and acute healing to xerostomia and remineralization, Amanda discusses how hygienists can match home care products to each patient's unique biology. She highlights the important role of saliva in oral health and shares strategies for supporting patients during the many months between dental hygiene visits.
The takeaway: Assess first, choose products second, and build a home care protocol around what the patient's biology actually needs.
Download the free Perio Protect and Periosciences treatment protocol for guidance on what to use, when to use it, and how to layer therapies.
Solventum Podcast Chat- Give your orthodontic patients a clear advantage with Solventum™ Clinpro™ Clear
2026/09/19
Orthodontic treatment can make oral hygiene more challenging, with brackets and aligner attachments creating areas where biofilm can accumulate and contribute to demineralization and white spot lesions.
This episode was brought to you by our friends at Solventum.
In this episode, Jessica Atkinson and Dave Torres discuss the role of fluoride in orthodontic prevention and how Solventum™ Clinpro™ Clear can help protect enamel while fitting seamlessly into clinical workflows.
What We Talked About
Why brackets and aligner attachments make oral hygiene more difficult.
The impact of biofilm and demineralization during orthodontic treatment.
The role of fluoride in orthodontic prevention.
How Clinpro™ Clear can migrate around brackets and attachments to reach high-risk areas.
Its fast-acting, 15-minute eat-and-drink time.
Its self-contained design for simple chairside application.
How Clinpro™ Clear can support both patient experience and practice workflow.
Resources:
https://www.solventum.com/en-us/home/f/b5005503000/
https://s7d9.scene7.com/is/content/mmmspinco/clinpro-clear-brochure-ds-rps-enpdf
Contact the Hosts
Jessica Atkinson
[email protected]
Dave Torres
[email protected]
556 The Endoscope: Seeing What We've Been Missing in Dental Hygiene
2026/09/16
Jessica and Dave welcome Judy Carroll, RDH, Founder and Clinical Director of PerioPeak Innovations, to discuss how periodontal endoscopy is changing the way hygienists assess and treat periodontal disease.
With 36 years of clinical experience, Judy shares her expertise on:
How periodontal endoscopy works and its evolution in hygiene.
How visualization can improve clinical decision-making and calculus detection.
The connection between endoscopy, biofilm management, and periodontal outcomes.
Common misconceptions, barriers, and training considerations.
The future of visualization technology in periodontal care.
More affordable, hygiene-focused approaches for treating teeth traditionally considered hopeless.
Learn more about Judy's work and periodontal endoscopy at www.periopeak.com and connect with @periopeak on social media.
Resources
www.periopeak.com
www.facebook.com/periopeak/
linkedin.com/in/periopeak/
@periopeak
Guest: Judy Carroll, RDH | [email protected]
Hosts: Jessica and Dave | [email protected] | [email protected]
555 From Wear Facets to Wellness: The Hygienist's Role in Airway Health
2026/09/09
On this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave sit down with a dental professional who has spent more than 20 years in hygiene and noticed a recurring problem: patients whose bruxism and wear patterns pointed to possible airway issues were being referred for sleep evaluations, but too often never completed the process.
That frustration led to the creation of Orasom Health, a platform designed to help dental teams support patients from the first airway red flags in the dental chair through screening, diagnosis, and treatment.
What We Talked About
How hygienists are uniquely positioned to recognize oral signs that may point to airway dysfunction.
Why patients so often fall through the cracks after being referred for a sleep evaluation.
How dental teams can better support patients throughout the journey from screening to diagnosis and treatment.
The important role hygienists can play in identifying potential airway concerns early.
The personal, unexpected journey that sparked this mission — beginning not through dentistry, but with an unfortunate near-death experience that changed the guest's life and set this work in motion.
The Big Takeaway
Airway health doesn't have to stop at a referral. Dental hygienists are often on the frontline of identifying potential warning signs, giving them a unique opportunity to help patients take the next step toward answers and treatment.
Resources:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aylee706/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puz8YoY2_To
Contact the Hosts:
Jessica: [email protected] Dave: [email protected]
554 AI in Dental Hygiene: Tool, Threat, or Teammate?
2026/09/02
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave explore the rapidly evolving role of artificial intelligence in dentistry and dental hygiene. From clinical decision-making to education and patient care, the conversation examines where AI can help, where it creates new challenges, and why human judgment remains essential.
In this episode we talked about:
How AI is currently being used in dentistry and dental hygiene
Opportunities AI may create for clinicians, educators, students, and patients
Concerns surrounding ethics, overreliance, accuracy, privacy, and critical thinking
Whether AI should be viewed as a tool, a threat, or a collaborative teammate
The importance of human judgment, empathy, and patient connection in an increasingly digital environment
How educators can prepare students for AI-integrated practice settings
Practical ways clinicians can use AI responsibly and effectively
What the future of AI in dental hygiene might realistically look like
Resources:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katiebayle/
Instagram: @saltcityhygi
Pearl: www.hellopearl.com
Pearl Case Studies and Guides: https://hellopearl.com/case-studies-guides
Contact the Hosts:
Jessica Atkinson: [email protected]
Dave Torres: [email protected]
553 High Standards, Human Teaching: Rethinking Rigor in Dental Hygiene Education
2026/08/26
What if true rigor in education isn't about making learning harder—but making it more meaningful?
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave sit down with Marion Manski, MS, RDH, to reflect on a distinguished career in dental hygiene education. As she prepares for retirement, Marion shares how her philosophy of teaching has evolved, why high standards and compassion can coexist, and what today's educators can do to help students succeed without losing sight of their humanity.
This conversation is a thoughtful look at leadership, mentorship, and the lasting impact educators have on the future of the profession.
In This Episode:
How Marion's teaching philosophy has evolved over the years.
What academic rigor really means in today's educational environment.
Balancing high expectations with student support and empathy.
Advice for new dental hygiene educators entering academia.
Reflections on a career of teaching, mentorship, and the legacy she hopes to leave behind.
Connect with Our Guest:
Marion Manski, MS, RDH
Email: [email protected]
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marion-manski-ms-rdh-839b0571/
Contact the Hosts:
Jessica Atkinson
Email: [email protected]
Dave Torres
Email: [email protected]
552 Teaching Is Clinical Work Too: Preventing Burnout in Dental Hygiene Educators
2026/08/19
What if the biggest challenge facing dental hygiene education isn't recruitment or curriculum—but burnout?
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave welcome Jasmin Haley for a conversation about the emotional and professional demands of teaching. Together, they explore why educating future clinicians is a form of clinical work in itself, how burnout quietly develops, and what educators and institutions can do to build more sustainable careers.
Whether you're a seasoned faculty member or just beginning your journey in academia, this episode offers practical strategies for protecting your well-being while continuing to make a lasting impact.
In This Episode
The unique causes of burnout among dental hygiene educators.
Why teaching is both clinical and emotional labor.
Balancing teaching, service, scholarship, and personal well-being.
Setting boundaries and creating sustainable workloads.
Recognizing the early warning signs of burnout.
Practical strategies for maintaining passion and purpose in education.
How academic institutions can better support faculty wellness and retention.
Advice for new educators entering academia.
Redefining success and productivity in an academic career.
Connect with Our Guest
Jasmin Haley
Email: [email protected]
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasminhaley/
Contact the Hosts
Jessica Atkinson
Email: [email protected]
Dave Torres
Email: [email protected]
551 Kindness in Education: Teaching the Whole Person
2026/08/12
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave sit down with Dr. Glenn Canares, DDS, MSD, to explore how psychological safety transforms learning environments, why there's a critical difference between being nice and being kind, and how Hygienist and educators can challenge learners while fostering growth. Glenn shares practical strategies for modeling self-care, delivering meaningful feedback, and creating sustainable, high-performing educational cultures that ultimately improve patient care.
In this episode, we discuss:
Why psychological safety is essential for effective learning
The difference between "nice" and "kind" feedback
Modeling self-care and growth-oriented leadership
How kindness improves learning, performance, and patient outcomes
Sustainable ways to integrate kindness into rigorous training programs
Connect with Dr. Glenn Canares:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/glenn-canares/
Instagram: @oracleofkindness
Email: [email protected]
Connect with the Hosts:
Jessica Atkinson: [email protected]
Dave Torres: [email protected]
Nordent Podcast-Chat: The sharpening Mistake Costing Dental Practices Time and Money.
2026/08/10
Why do so many dental professionals struggle with instrument sharpening, and what impact does it have on patient care, efficiency, and instrument longevity?
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave sit down with Jennifer Simoncelli, RDH, to discuss one of the most overlooked aspects of clinical success: instrument maintenance. Jennifer shares what inspired the development of XpressEdge, how it simplifies the sharpening process compared to traditional methods, and the real-world results practices are seeing after adopting it.
If you've ever wondered whether your instruments are performing at their best, this conversation offers practical insights that every dental team can apply.
In This Episode:
Why instrument sharpening remains a challenge for many clinicians.
The inspiration behind the development of XpressEdge.
How XpressEdge differs from traditional sharpening methods.
Feedback and success stories from practices using the system.
The one thing every dental office should know about instrument maintenance.
Connect with Our Guest:
Jennifer Simoncelli, RDH
Email: [email protected]
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jennifer-simoncelli-rdh-64569a54
Contact the Hosts:
Jessica Atkinson
Email: [email protected]
Dave Torres
Email: [email protected]
This episode is brought to you by our friends at Nordent. To learn more about XpressEdge and explore their full range of dental instruments and products, visit www.Nordent.com.
550 Tracking What Matters: Measuring Student Competence for CODA Accreditation
2026/08/05
What if the way we measure competence in dental hygiene education is missing the bigger picture?
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave sit down with Sara Taft to explore how data can transform dental hygiene education. From simplifying accreditation to uncovering meaningful trends in student performance, Sara shares how technology is helping educators move beyond compliance and toward truly understanding student growth.
Whether you're preparing for CODA accreditation or looking for better ways to assess clinical competence, this conversation offers practical insights into the future of dental hygiene education.
In This Episode
The challenge that inspired a better approach to student assessment.
How technology helps measure competence beyond traditional grading.
Surprising trends and insights programs have uncovered through their data.
Using objective data while preserving the human side of teaching and mentorship.
Practical advice for educators navigating assessment and accreditation.
The future of educational technology in dental hygiene.
The one metric every dental hygiene program should be tracking.
Connect with Our Guest
Sara Taft
Email: [email protected]
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sara-taft-08a83476/
Contact the Hosts
Jessica Atkinson
Email: [email protected]
Dave Torres
Email: [email protected]
Not All 10% Nanohydroxyapatite Toothpastes Are Created Equal
2026/08/04
In this episode, Dr. Jen explains why nanohydroxyapatite should never be viewed as a commodity ingredient. From crystal size and purity to manufacturing processes and mineral composition, numerous factors influence how effectively a formulation supports enamel remineralization. She also discusses the importance of evidence-based product development, transparency in fluoride-free oral care, and why dental professionals should look beyond the label when making recommendations.
In This Episode
Why ingredient percentage alone doesn't determine performance How nanohydroxyapatite quality impacts clinical outcomes The role of crystal size, purity, and manufacturing methods The science behind biomimetic remineralization Why Dr. Jen's team selected premium eggshell-derived nanohydroxyapatite The importance of independent research and laboratory testing How dental professionals can help patients make informed decisions about fluoride-free oral care Key Takeaway
When it comes to nanohydroxyapatite, quality matters just as much as concentration. Backed by science, transparency, and clinical research, biomimetic dentistry continues to raise the standard for preventive oral care.
Resources:
https://drjenoralcare.com/
549 Why Every Hygienist Should Read "Red Rising"
2026/07/29
What can a bestselling science fiction novel teach dental hygienists about leadership, advocacy, and challenging the status quo?
In this special episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave welcome back Ashley Kear (featured in Episode 521, From Dental Chair to Design Dreams: Ashley Kear on Building an Etsy Shop) for an out-of-the-box conversation about why Red Rising by Pierce Brown has become such a meaningful story for leadership and professional growth.
Together, they explore the themes from the series that resonate with dental hygienists, the different leadership styles found throughout the books, and the parallels between Darrow's journey and the evolution of the dental hygiene profession. From questioning old systems to inspiring change, this conversation is all about thinking bigger, leading with purpose, and embracing what's possible.
In this episode, you'll hear:
Why Red Rising resonates with dental hygienists
Leadership lessons from the series
How challenging the status quo relates to advancing dental hygiene
How stories can inspire stronger leaders, educators, and advocates
Ashley's perspective on what hygienists can learn from the series
If you enjoyed this conversation, share it with a fellow hygienist, leave a review, and subscribe so you never miss an episode.
Resources:
Read Red Rising by Pierce Brown: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/221552/red-rising-by-pierce-brown/
Contact Ashley:
[email protected]
Contact the Hosts
Jessica Atkinson: [email protected]
Dave Torres: [email protected]
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AE Marling 2026/08/09
Please be more critical
Please ask more critical questions of guests, especially when they introduce new products. Otherwise I have to do this on my own time. For interest, o...
Checks this out 2026/03/27
Why change it?!?!
I absolutely loved this podcast. However, I can't stand it now. I HATE the new hosts. I feel like I'm listening to a high schoolers podcast. Absol...
FL CRDH 2025/02/19
Occasionally informative
I started listening to this when I began DH school I thought it would be useful to keep up with DH products and the profession. I started to realize t...
cwreggs 2024/06/08
Don’t waste your time
This podcast is horrible. 3 hygienists talking over each other and can’t even pronounce words correctly. 🤦🏼♀️unnecessary cussing all just makes you...
FoofMeg 2024/03/02
Absolutely Love
I have been a hygienist for while and love what I do. I am new listening to this podcast and I am so glad I found it. I listen on my drives to work an...
tnm78954668 2024/01/30
Please get a new intro song
Good podcast, great info, please get a new intro song
BritATXRDH 2023/01/22
ATOTH all day everyday
I haven’t decided in what order I want to listen. I definitely started with their latest episodes and got so invested that I went all the way back to ...
pistlol fan 2023/01/05
Worth a listen or two…..or three…and so on
So glad I found this podcast! Makes me want to attend an RDH Under One Roof conference and be surrounded by like minded people. Absolutely love the Ti...
AMKRDH 2022/12/09
LOVE RANT!
Love this podcast, especially the RANT TAKEOVERS!!! 🦷💜🦷💜🦷💜
Steph.polishedposture 2022/07/29
Love love love this podcast!
I love ATOTH, they have such relevant topics and guests to help us navigate dentistry and all the changes that are happening!
The hosts are down to ea...
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