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We sit down with Mark Feldman and Ralph Suppa to talk through the growing wave of questions we’ve been getting by email about class accreditation and what it really means in practice. To bring clarity and visibility to the current state of things, we teamed up with the gentlemen from JOIFF for a grounded conversation on how accreditation works and where the industry is headed. Along the way, we dig into the difference between holding a certification and actually demonstrating competence, and why that gap keeps coming up in real-world training discussions. If you’ve been wondering which credentials matter, how accredited classes are evaluated, or what to look for when choosing a course, this episode helps put the conversation into plain terms.

Right before hitting record, the crew has a lightning-bolt idea: Bob might not be able to join the conversation, but he can still shape it. Instead of sitting out completely, he drops five questions for Mike and Jake to tackle, spar, and “fight it out” over as the discussion unfolds. The result is a lively, question-driven episode where the energy comes from reacting in real time and debating each prompt. If you like podcast conversations with quick pivots, friendly rivalry, and a format that keeps moving, this one’s built around exactly that. Hit play and jump into the five-question challenge. EPISODE SPONSORSRigaku Analytical DevicesRigaku provides handheld Raman analyzers for first responders facing unknown hazards. Their 1064 nm Raman technology reduces fluorescence interference, enabling chemical identification in under a minute—even in difficult samples. Rigaku’s fourth-generation platform expands accessory support to help teams assess hazards faster and safer.https://www.rigakuanalytical.comTeledyne FLIR DefenseCBRNE threats don’t wait for safe locations. Teledyne FLIR Defense equips responders, security professionals, and military personnel with real-time detection tools for mobile, fixed, and covert deployment. From handheld trace detectors to autonomous bio-monitors, their technology ensures rapid threat recognition and evidence-quality documentation in any environment.https://defense.flir.com908 Devices908 Devices delivers handheld chemical analysis tools addressing fentanyl exposure, toxic industrial hazards, and global security threats. Responders use these devices to rapidly detect, identify, and monitor thousands of chemical hazards—bulk or trace—directly at the point of need.https://www.908devices.comObexionFRObexionFR is a mobile solution for lithium-ion battery fires developed by former FDNY HazMat experts. It neutralizes fires by addressing heat, oxygen, and fuel—cooling batteries, isolating oxygen, and preventing re-ignition while maintaining safe gas levels.https://www.obexionfr.comFire Suppression Solutions (FSS)Fire Suppression Solutions, based in Slinger, Wisconsin, is the U.S. master distributor for advanced suppression technologies. Their partnership with LifeSafe Technologies delivers TRF (Thermal Runaway Fluid), proven through testing to extinguish lithium-ion battery fires. Products include A & B fire solutions and BSI-rated systems across 10 categories, including lithium-ion batteries.https://www.firesuppressionsolutions.comTRAINING & RESOURCESthehazmatguys.comthehazmatguys.com/trainingthehazmatguys.com/contactBOOKS & PRODUCTSNHERD Volume 1 — linkNHERD Volume 2 — linkAre You Compliant? — linkBuilding a HazMat Team — linkYou Suck at Teaching HazMat — linkNERHD: The Game — linkMEDIA NETWORKCommand Media Network — linkHazard Class — linkIndustrial Strength: Haz Mat Harder — linkMERCHthehazmatguys.com/storeFOLLOWFacebook — linkInstagram — linkLinkedIn — linkYouTube — linkDon’t just get on the job. Get into it.™Music from #InAudio: https://inaudio.org/Sport Rock & Workout

In this mailbag-style episode, we pull a handful of standout emails and mix them with questions that come up in class. It’s a quick, conversational Q&A where we respond to real questions and talk through them in a practical way. If you like episodes that feel more interactive, built from listener feedback and classroom discussions, this one’s for you. We cover a few different topics based on what was submitted, keeping it straightforward and easy to follow. Take a listen and hear which questions made the cut this time. EPISODE SPONSORSRigaku Analytical DevicesRigaku provides handheld Raman analyzers for first responders facing unknown hazards. Their 1064 nm Raman technology reduces fluorescence interference, enabling chemical identification in under a minute—even in difficult samples. Rigaku’s fourth-generation platform expands accessory support to help teams assess hazards faster and safer.https://www.rigakuanalytical.comTeledyne FLIR DefenseCBRNE threats don’t wait for safe locations. Teledyne FLIR Defense equips responders, security professionals, and military personnel with real-time detection tools for mobile, fixed, and covert deployment. From handheld trace detectors to autonomous bio-monitors, their technology ensures rapid threat recognition and evidence-quality documentation in any environment.https://defense.flir.com908 Devices908 Devices delivers handheld chemical analysis tools addressing fentanyl exposure, toxic industrial hazards, and global security threats. Responders use these devices to rapidly detect, identify, and monitor thousands of chemical hazards—bulk or trace—directly at the point of need.https://www.908devices.comObexionFRObexionFR is a mobile solution for lithium-ion battery fires developed by former FDNY HazMat experts. It neutralizes fires by addressing heat, oxygen, and fuel—cooling batteries, isolating oxygen, and preventing re-ignition while maintaining safe gas levels.https://www.obexionfr.comFire Suppression Solutions (FSS)Fire Suppression Solutions, based in Slinger, Wisconsin, is the U.S. master distributor for advanced suppression technologies. Their partnership with LifeSafe Technologies delivers TRF (Thermal Runaway Fluid), proven through testing to extinguish lithium-ion battery fires. Products include A & B fire solutions and BSI-rated systems across 10 categories, including lithium-ion batteries.https://www.firesuppressionsolutions.comTRAINING & RESOURCESthehazmatguys.comthehazmatguys.com/trainingthehazmatguys.com/contactBOOKS & PRODUCTSNHERD Volume 1 — linkNHERD Volume 2 — linkAre You Compliant? — linkBuilding a HazMat Team — linkYou Suck at Teaching HazMat — linkNERHD: The Game — linkMEDIA NETWORKCommand Media Network — linkHazard Class — linkIndustrial Strength: Haz Mat Harder — linkMERCHthehazmatguys.com/storeFOLLOWFacebook — linkInstagram — linkLinkedIn — linkYouTube — linkDon’t just get on the job. Get into it.™Music from #InAudio: https://inaudio.org/Sport Rock & Workout

In this episode, we break down the United States’ emerging threats document and translate it into practical takeaways you can actually use. This is part of a two-part series, where we walk through six key points from the document and discuss how each one connects to the Hazard's Materials branch. Along the way, we focus on what these threat trends could mean for operations, readiness, and the kinds of hazards teams may need to anticipate. Part two will cover six additional points to complete the picture. If you’re attending conferences this year, expect to hear these topics showing up on the circuit, and this episode helps you get ahead of the conversation. EPISODE SPONSORSRigaku Analytical DevicesRigaku provides handheld Raman analyzers for first responders facing unknown hazards. Their 1064 nm Raman technology reduces fluorescence interference, enabling chemical identification in under a minute—even in difficult samples. Rigaku’s fourth-generation platform expands accessory support to help teams assess hazards faster and safer.https://www.rigakuanalytical.comTeledyne FLIR DefenseCBRNE threats don’t wait for safe locations. Teledyne FLIR Defense equips responders, security professionals, and military personnel with real-time detection tools for mobile, fixed, and covert deployment. From handheld trace detectors to autonomous bio-monitors, their technology ensures rapid threat recognition and evidence-quality documentation in any environment.https://defense.flir.com908 Devices908 Devices delivers handheld chemical analysis tools addressing fentanyl exposure, toxic industrial hazards, and global security threats. Responders use these devices to rapidly detect, identify, and monitor thousands of chemical hazards—bulk or trace—directly at the point of need.https://www.908devices.comObexionFRObexionFR is a mobile solution for lithium-ion battery fires developed by former FDNY HazMat experts. It neutralizes fires by addressing heat, oxygen, and fuel—cooling batteries, isolating oxygen, and preventing re-ignition while maintaining safe gas levels.https://www.obexionfr.comFire Suppression Solutions (FSS)Fire Suppression Solutions, based in Slinger, Wisconsin, is the U.S. master distributor for advanced suppression technologies. Their partnership with LifeSafe Technologies delivers TRF (Thermal Runaway Fluid), proven through testing to extinguish lithium-ion battery fires. Products include A & B fire solutions and BSI-rated systems across 10 categories, including lithium-ion batteries.https://www.firesuppressionsolutions.comTRAINING & RESOURCESthehazmatguys.comthehazmatguys.com/trainingthehazmatguys.com/contactBOOKS & PRODUCTSNHERD Volume 1 — linkNHERD Volume 2 — linkAre You Compliant? — linkBuilding a HazMat Team — linkYou Suck at Teaching HazMat — linkNERHD: The Game — linkMEDIA NETWORKCommand Media Network — linkHazard Class — linkIndustrial Strength: Haz Mat Harder — linkMERCHthehazmatguys.com/storeFOLLOWFacebook — linkInstagram — linkLinkedIn — linkYouTube — linkDon’t just get on the job. Get into it.™Music from #InAudio: https://inaudio.org/Sport Rock & Workout

In this episode, we break down the United States’ emerging threats document and translate it into practical takeaways you can actually use. This is part of a two-part series, where we walk through six key points from the document and discuss how each one connects to the Hazard's Materials branch. Along the way, we focus on what these threat trends could mean for operations, readiness, and the kinds of hazards teams may need to anticipate. Part two will cover six additional points to complete the picture. If you’re attending conferences this year, expect to hear these topics showing up on the circuit, and this episode helps you get ahead of the conversation. EPISODE SPONSORSRigaku Analytical DevicesRigaku provides handheld Raman analyzers for first responders facing unknown hazards. Their 1064 nm Raman technology reduces fluorescence interference, enabling chemical identification in under a minute—even in difficult samples. Rigaku’s fourth-generation platform expands accessory support to help teams assess hazards faster and safer.https://www.rigakuanalytical.comTeledyne FLIR DefenseCBRNE threats don’t wait for safe locations. Teledyne FLIR Defense equips responders, security professionals, and military personnel with real-time detection tools for mobile, fixed, and covert deployment. From handheld trace detectors to autonomous bio-monitors, their technology ensures rapid threat recognition and evidence-quality documentation in any environment.https://defense.flir.com908 Devices908 Devices delivers handheld chemical analysis tools addressing fentanyl exposure, toxic industrial hazards, and global security threats. Responders use these devices to rapidly detect, identify, and monitor thousands of chemical hazards—bulk or trace—directly at the point of need.https://www.908devices.comObexionFRObexionFR is a mobile solution for lithium-ion battery fires developed by former FDNY HazMat experts. It neutralizes fires by addressing heat, oxygen, and fuel—cooling batteries, isolating oxygen, and preventing re-ignition while maintaining safe gas levels.https://www.obexionfr.comFire Suppression Solutions (FSS)Fire Suppression Solutions, based in Slinger, Wisconsin, is the U.S. master distributor for advanced suppression technologies. Their partnership with LifeSafe Technologies delivers TRF (Thermal Runaway Fluid), proven through testing to extinguish lithium-ion battery fires. Products include A & B fire solutions and BSI-rated systems across 10 categories, including lithium-ion batteries.https://www.firesuppressionsolutions.comTRAINING & RESOURCESthehazmatguys.comthehazmatguys.com/trainingthehazmatguys.com/contactBOOKS & PRODUCTSNHERD Volume 1 — linkNHERD Volume 2 — linkAre You Compliant? — linkBuilding a HazMat Team — linkYou Suck at Teaching HazMat — linkNERHD: The Game — linkMEDIA NETWORKCommand Media Network — linkHazard Class — linkIndustrial Strength: Haz Mat Harder — linkMERCHthehazmatguys.com/storeFOLLOWFacebook — linkInstagram — linkLinkedIn — linkYouTube — linkDon’t just get on the job. Get into it.™Music from #InAudio: https://inaudio.org/Sport Rock & Workout

Jake takes the lead in this episode to break down the top 10 chemicals you’re most likely to encounter on the road in the United States, and why knowing what’s around you matters. We count down from #10 to #1, unpacking the most common roadside chemicals and what makes each one noteworthy along the way. It’s a fast-moving discussion built around real-world exposure and the kinds of materials you might pass every day while driving or traveling across the U.S. As you listen, you can guess what you think the #1 chemical will be, place your bets, and see if you’re right when we reveal it. We also sprinkle in a few cool facts as we go to keep things interesting and memorable. If you’re curious about what’s actually out there on American roads, and want a fun countdown format, this one’s for you. EPISODE SPONSORSRigaku Analytical DevicesRigaku provides handheld Raman analyzers for first responders facing unknown hazards. Their 1064 nm Raman technology reduces fluorescence interference, enabling chemical identification in under a minute—even in difficult samples. Rigaku’s fourth-generation platform expands accessory support to help teams assess hazards faster and safer.https://www.rigakuanalytical.comTeledyne FLIR DefenseCBRNE threats don’t wait for safe locations. Teledyne FLIR Defense equips responders, security professionals, and military personnel with real-time detection tools for mobile, fixed, and covert deployment. From handheld trace detectors to autonomous bio-monitors, their technology ensures rapid threat recognition and evidence-quality documentation in any environment.https://defense.flir.com908 Devices908 Devices delivers handheld chemical analysis tools addressing fentanyl exposure, toxic industrial hazards, and global security threats. Responders use these devices to rapidly detect, identify, and monitor thousands of chemical hazards—bulk or trace—directly at the point of need.https://www.908devices.comObexionFRObexionFR is a mobile solution for lithium-ion battery fires developed by former FDNY HazMat experts. It neutralizes fires by addressing heat, oxygen, and fuel—cooling batteries, isolating oxygen, and preventing re-ignition while maintaining safe gas levels.https://www.obexionfr.comFire Suppression Solutions (FSS)Fire Suppression Solutions, based in Slinger, Wisconsin, is the U.S. master distributor for advanced suppression technologies. Their partnership with LifeSafe Technologies delivers TRF (Thermal Runaway Fluid), proven through testing to extinguish lithium-ion battery fires. Products include A & B fire solutions and BSI-rated systems across 10 categories, including lithium-ion batteries.https://www.firesuppressionsolutions.comTRAINING & RESOURCESthehazmatguys.comthehazmatguys.com/trainingthehazmatguys.com/contactBOOKS & PRODUCTSNHERD Volume 1 — linkNHERD Volume 2 — linkAre You Compliant? — linkBuilding a HazMat Team — linkYou Suck at Teaching HazMat — linkNERHD: The Game — linkMEDIA NETWORKCommand Media Network — linkHazard Class — linkIndustrial Strength: Haz Mat Harder — linkMERCHthehazmatguys.com/storeFOLLOWFacebook — linkInstagram — linkLinkedIn — linkYouTube — linkDon’t just get on the job. Get into it.™Music from #InAudio: https://inaudio.org/Sport Rock & Workout

Cybersecurity isn’t just an IT problem, it can directly affect your hazmat operation and the safety decisions you make every day. In this episode, we pause amid everything happening in the world to talk about why cyber risks matter in hazardous materials work. Also, quick heads-up: the show’s format is shifting a bit. We’ll be bringing on regular guests, and some episodes will have Bob and/or Mike stepping back so others can jump in with their own takes and opinions. We hope you enjoy the change, stick around, and keep growing with us. EPISODE SPONSORS Rigaku Analytical Devices Rigaku provides handheld Raman analyzers for first responders facing unknown hazards. Their 1064 nm Raman technology reduces fluorescence interference, enabling chemical identification in under a minute—even in difficult samples. Rigaku’s fourth-generation platform expands accessory support to help teams assess hazards faster and safer. Teledyne FLIR Defense CBRNE threats don’t wait for safe locations. Teledyne FLIR Defense equips responders, security professionals, and military personnel with real-time detection tools for mobile, fixed, and covert deployment. From handheld trace detectors to autonomous bio-monitors, their technology ensures rapid threat recognition and evidence-quality documentation in any environment. 908 Devices 908 Devices delivers handheld chemical analysis tools addressing fentanyl exposure, toxic industrial hazards, and global security threats. Responders use these devices to rapidly detect, identify, and monitor thousands of chemical hazards—bulk or trace—directly at the point of need. ObexionFR ObexionFR is a mobile solution for lithium-ion battery fires developed by former FDNY HazMat experts. It neutralizes fires by addressing heat, oxygen, and fuel—cooling batteries, isolating oxygen, and preventing re-ignition while maintaining safe gas levels. Fire Suppression Solutions (FSS) Fire Suppression Solutions, based in Slinger, Wisconsin, is the U.S. master distributor for advanced suppression technologies. Their partnership with LifeSafe Technologies delivers TRF (Thermal Runaway Fluid), proven through testing to extinguish lithium-ion battery fires. Products include A & B fire solutions and BSI-rated systems across 10 categories, including lithium-ion batteries. TRAINING & RESOURCES BOOKS & PRODUCTS NHERD Volume 1 — NHERD Volume 2 — Are You Compliant? — Building a HazMat Team — You Suck at Teaching HazMat — NERHD: The Game — MEDIA NETWORK Command Media Network — Hazard Class — Industrial Strength: Haz Mat Harder — MERCH FOLLOW Facebook — Instagram — LinkedIn — YouTube — Don’t just get on the job. Get into it.™Music from #InAudio: https://inaudio.org/Sport Rock & Workout

In this episode, Mike’s off on assignment, so Bob gets to team up with Jake again—and we’re kind of hoping this turns into a regular thing. It’s four quick questions pulled from the old mailbag, and it always gets things moving. Give it a listen. 1. How important is actual chemistry in hazmat response? 2. What the hell does octane mean on the gas pump? 3. What tools are non-negotiable when dealing with unknowns? 4. Can something melt below its freezing point? Also, quick heads-up: the show’s format is shifting a bit. We’ll be bringing on regular guests, and some episodes will have Bob and/or Mike stepping back so others can jump in with their own takes and opinions. We hope you enjoy the change, stick around, and keep growing with us. EPISODE SPONSORS Rigaku Analytical Devices Rigaku provides handheld Raman analyzers for first responders facing unknown hazards. Their 1064 nm Raman technology reduces fluorescence interference, enabling chemical identification in under a minute—even in difficult samples. Rigaku’s fourth-generation platform expands accessory support to help teams assess hazards faster and safer. Teledyne FLIR Defense CBRNE threats don’t wait for safe locations. Teledyne FLIR Defense equips responders, security professionals, and military personnel with real-time detection tools for mobile, fixed, and covert deployment. From handheld trace detectors to autonomous bio-monitors, their technology ensures rapid threat recognition and evidence-quality documentation in any environment. 908 Devices 908 Devices delivers handheld chemical analysis tools addressing fentanyl exposure, toxic industrial hazards, and global security threats. Responders use these devices to rapidly detect, identify, and monitor thousands of chemical hazards—bulk or trace—directly at the point of need. ObexionFR ObexionFR is a mobile solution for lithium-ion battery fires developed by former FDNY HazMat experts. It neutralizes fires by addressing heat, oxygen, and fuel—cooling batteries, isolating oxygen, and preventing re-ignition while maintaining safe gas levels. Fire Suppression Solutions (FSS) Fire Suppression Solutions, based in Slinger, Wisconsin, is the U.S. master distributor for advanced suppression technologies. Their partnership with LifeSafe Technologies delivers TRF (Thermal Runaway Fluid), proven through testing to extinguish lithium-ion battery fires. Products include A & B fire solutions and BSI-rated systems across 10 categories, including lithium-ion batteries. TRAINING & RESOURCES BOOKS & PRODUCTS NHERD Volume 1 — NHERD Volume 2 — Are You Compliant? — Building a HazMat Team — You Suck at Teaching HazMat — NERHD: The Game — MEDIA NETWORK Command Media Network — Hazard Class — Industrial Strength: Haz Mat Harder — MERCH FOLLOW Facebook — Instagram — LinkedIn — YouTube — Don’t just get on the job. Get into it.™Music from #InAudio: https://inaudio.org/Sport Rock & Workout

In this episode, Jake and Bob, sit down to chat about exposure limits, looking at them through an industrial hygienist’s lens and a “Haz Mat Response” perspective. We’ll cover a mix of the common ones, the lesser-known ones, and a few you might not really care about, but knowing them can help you sound sharp when you’re talking with people on scene. Also, quick heads-up: the show’s format is shifting a bit. We’ll be bringing on regular guests, and some episodes will have Bob and/or Mike stepping back so others can jump in with their own takes and opinions. We hope you enjoy the change, stick around, and keep growing with us. EPISODE SPONSORSRigaku Analytical DevicesRigaku provides handheld Raman analyzers for first responders facing unknown hazards. Their 1064 nm Raman technology reduces fluorescence interference, enabling chemical identification in under a minute—even in difficult samples. Rigaku’s fourth-generation platform expands accessory support to help teams assess hazards faster and safer.https://www.rigakuanalytical.comTeledyne FLIR DefenseCBRNE threats don’t wait for safe locations. Teledyne FLIR Defense equips responders, security professionals, and military personnel with real-time detection tools for mobile, fixed, and covert deployment. From handheld trace detectors to autonomous bio-monitors, their technology ensures rapid threat recognition and evidence-quality documentation in any environment.https://defense.flir.com908 Devices908 Devices delivers handheld chemical analysis tools addressing fentanyl exposure, toxic industrial hazards, and global security threats. Responders use these devices to rapidly detect, identify, and monitor thousands of chemical hazards—bulk or trace—directly at the point of need.https://www.908devices.comObexionFRObexionFR is a mobile solution for lithium-ion battery fires developed by former FDNY HazMat experts. It neutralizes fires by addressing heat, oxygen, and fuel—cooling batteries, isolating oxygen, and preventing re-ignition while maintaining safe gas levels.https://www.obexionfr.comFire Suppression Solutions (FSS)Fire Suppression Solutions, based in Slinger, Wisconsin, is the U.S. master distributor for advanced suppression technologies. Their partnership with LifeSafe Technologies delivers TRF (Thermal Runaway Fluid), proven through testing to extinguish lithium-ion battery fires. Products include A & B fire solutions and BSI-rated systems across 10 categories, including lithium-ion batteries.https://www.firesuppressionsolutions.comTRAINING & RESOURCESthehazmatguys.comthehazmatguys.com/trainingthehazmatguys.com/contactMEDIA NETWORKCommand Media Network — linkHazard Class — linkIndustrial Strength: Haz Mat Harder — linkFOLLOWFacebook — linkInstagram — linkLinkedIn — linkYouTube — linkDon’t just get on the job. Get into it.™Music from #InAudio: https://inaudio.org/Sport Rock & Workout

We're not going to plan on doing these often, but periodically it's nice to let everybody know what's going on with what we're doing, where the show's going, and get your input. Take a listen.

We had great traction with the last AI episode, so we dived a little deeper and created a miniseries on the topic. More to come on this one, so strap in, this landscape is shifting quickly. EPISODE SPONSORSRigaku Analytical DevicesRigaku provides handheld Raman analyzers for first responders facing unknown hazards. Their 1064 nm Raman technology reduces fluorescence interference, enabling chemical identification in under a minute—even in difficult samples. Rigaku’s fourth-generation platform expands accessory support to help teams assess hazards faster and safer.https://www.rigakuanalytical.comTeledyne FLIR DefenseCBRNE threats don’t wait for safe locations. Teledyne FLIR Defense equips responders, security professionals, and military personnel with real-time detection tools for mobile, fixed, and covert deployment. From handheld trace detectors to autonomous bio-monitors, their technology ensures rapid threat recognition and evidence-quality documentation in any environment.https://defense.flir.com908 Devices908 Devices delivers handheld chemical analysis tools addressing fentanyl exposure, toxic industrial hazards, and global security threats. Responders use these devices to rapidly detect, identify, and monitor thousands of chemical hazards—bulk or trace—directly at the point of need.https://www.908devices.comObexionFRObexionFR is a mobile solution for lithium-ion battery fires developed by former FDNY HazMat experts. It neutralizes fires by addressing heat, oxygen, and fuel—cooling batteries, isolating oxygen, and preventing re-ignition while maintaining safe gas levels.https://www.obexionfr.comFire Suppression Solutions (FSS)Fire Suppression Solutions, based in Slinger, Wisconsin, is the U.S. master distributor for advanced suppression technologies. Their partnership with LifeSafe Technologies delivers TRF (Thermal Runaway Fluid), proven through testing to extinguish lithium-ion battery fires. Products include A & B fire solutions and BSI-rated systems across 10 categories, including lithium-ion batteries.https://www.firesuppressionsolutions.comTRAINING & RESOURCESthehazmatguys.comthehazmatguys.com/trainingthehazmatguys.com/contactBOOKS & PRODUCTSNHERD Volume 1 — linkNHERD Volume 2 — linkAre You Compliant? — linkBuilding a HazMat Team — linkYou Suck at Teaching HazMat — linkNERHD: The Game — linkMEDIA NETWORKHazard Class — linkIndustrial Strength: Haz Mat Harder — linkMERCHthehazmatguys.com/storeFOLLOWFacebook — linkInstagram — linkLinkedIn — linkYouTube — linkDon’t just get on the job. Get into it.™Music from #InAudio: https://inaudio.org/Sport Rock & Workout

We had great traction with the last AI episode, so we dived a little deeper and created a miniseries on the topic. More to come on this one, so strap in, this landscape is shiftingquickly. EPISODE SPONSORSRigaku Analytical DevicesRigaku provides handheld Raman analyzers for first responders facing unknown hazards. Their 1064 nm Raman technology reduces fluorescence interference, enabling chemical identification in under a minute—even in difficult samples. Rigaku’s fourth-generation platform expands accessory support to help teams assess hazards faster and safer.https://www.rigakuanalytical.comTeledyne FLIR DefenseCBRNE threats don’t wait for safe locations. Teledyne FLIR Defense equips responders, security professionals, and military personnel with real-time detection tools for mobile, fixed, and covert deployment. From handheld trace detectors to autonomous bio-monitors, their technology ensures rapid threat recognition and evidence-quality documentation in any environment.https://defense.flir.com908 Devices908 Devices delivers handheld chemical analysis tools addressing fentanyl exposure, toxic industrial hazards, and global security threats. Responders use these devices to rapidly detect, identify, and monitor thousands of chemical hazards—bulk or trace—directly at the point of need.https://www.908devices.comObexionFRObexionFR is a mobile solution for lithium-ion battery fires developed by former FDNY HazMat experts. It neutralizes fires by addressing heat, oxygen, and fuel—cooling batteries, isolating oxygen, and preventing re-ignition while maintaining safe gas levels.https://www.obexionfr.comFire Suppression Solutions (FSS)Fire Suppression Solutions, based in Slinger, Wisconsin, is the U.S. master distributor for advanced suppression technologies. Their partnership with LifeSafe Technologies delivers TRF (Thermal Runaway Fluid), proven through testing to extinguish lithium-ion battery fires. Products include A & B fire solutions and BSI-rated systems across 10 categories, including lithium-ion batteries.https://www.firesuppressionsolutions.comTRAINING & RESOURCESthehazmatguys.comthehazmatguys.com/trainingthehazmatguys.com/contactBOOKS & PRODUCTSNHERD Volume 1 — linkNHERD Volume 2 — linkAre You Compliant? — linkBuilding a HazMat Team — linkYou Suck at Teaching HazMat — linkNERHD: The Game — linkMEDIA NETWORKHazard Class — linkIndustrial Strength: Haz Mat Harder — linkMERCHthehazmatguys.com/storeFOLLOWFacebook — linkInstagram — linkLinkedIn — linkYouTube — linkDon’t just get on the job. Get into it.™Music from #InAudio: https://inaudio.org/Sport Rock & Workout

Since we are wrapping up our first conference in lovely downtown Key West Florida we stepped back and had our intrepid interviewer Jake Ryks who got the chance to sit down with Dr. Mark Norman. Check out this background interview and learn who the man is. It’s seriously inciteful if your thinking about doing Chemistry.EPISODE SPONSORSRigaku Analytical DevicesRigaku provides handheld Raman analyzers for first responders facing unknown hazards. Their 1064 nm Raman technology reduces fluorescence interference, enabling chemical identification in under a minute—even in difficult samples. Rigaku’s fourth-generation platform expands accessory support to help teams assess hazards faster and safer.https://www.rigakuanalytical.comTeledyne FLIR DefenseCBRNE threats don’t wait for safe locations. Teledyne FLIR Defense equips responders, security professionals, and military personnel with real-time detection tools for mobile, fixed, and covert deployment. From handheld trace detectors to autonomous bio-monitors, their technology ensures rapid threat recognition and evidence-quality documentation in any environment.https://defense.flir.com908 Devices908 Devices delivers handheld chemical analysis tools addressing fentanyl exposure, toxic industrial hazards, and global security threats. Responders use these devices to rapidly detect, identify, and monitor thousands of chemical hazards—bulk or trace—directly at the point of need.https://www.908devices.comObexionFRObexionFR is a mobile solution for lithium-ion battery fires developed by former FDNY HazMat experts. It neutralizes fires by addressing heat, oxygen, and fuel—cooling batteries, isolating oxygen, and preventing re-ignition while maintaining safe gas levels.https://www.obexionfr.comFire Suppression Solutions (FSS)Fire Suppression Solutions, based in Slinger, Wisconsin, is the U.S. master distributor for advanced suppression technologies. Their partnership with LifeSafe Technologies delivers TRF (Thermal Runaway Fluid), proven through testing to extinguish lithium-ion battery fires. Products include A & B fire solutions and BSI-rated systems across 10 categories, including lithium-ion batteries.https://www.firesuppressionsolutions.comTRAINING & RESOURCESthehazmatguys.comthehazmatguys.com/trainingthehazmatguys.com/contactBOOKS & PRODUCTSNHERD Volume 1 — linkNHERD Volume 2 — linkAre You Compliant? — linkBuilding a HazMat Team — linkYou Suck at Teaching HazMat — linkNERHD: The Game — linkMEDIA NETWORKHazard Class — linkIndustrial Strength: Haz Mat Harder — linkMERCHthehazmatguys.com/storeFOLLOWFacebook — linkInstagram — linkLinkedIn — linkYouTube — linkDon’t just get on the job. Get into it.™

Guests John Glazier • Packaging Engineer (RIT graduate) • 25+ years in chemical and dangerous goods packaging • Representative at DGO, specializing in lithium-ion battery containment and transport • Expert in third-party testing, thermal runaway mitigation, and DOT-compliant packaging Contact: • Email: [email protected] John Orlando • Retired Fire Marshal with FDNY (27 years) • Former Supervising Fire Marshal specializing in origin-and-cause investigations • Founder of Orlando Safety Solutions • Instrumental in developing NYC’s lithium-ion battery task force • Focused on responder exposure, toxic gases, and real-world fire behavior Contact: • LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook (search John Orlando – Orlando Safety Solutions) Some more info on this product: https://thehazmatguys.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Obexion-FR-Product-Sheet.pptx https://thehazmatguys.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Obexion-AG-Info-Sheet.pdf https://thehazmatguys.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/DGeoxSoteria-Testing-Report-30-gallon-poly-drum-Final.pdf https://www.labelmaster.com/obexionfr Segment Breakdown & Timestamps 0:17 – 2:04 | Introductions & Backgrounds • Meet the guests and their professional paths • John Orlando’s transition from fire suppression to fire investigation • Why lithium-ion batteries became a major focus post-2016 2:05 – 6:22 | The Battery Fire Problem • Why lithium-ion battery fires are underreported • The rise of e-bikes, scooters, and consumer devices • Limitations of sand, water, vermiculite, and salt baths 6:23 – 11:20 | Why Traditional Methods Fall Short • Weight and transport challenges of water- and sand-filled drums • Re-ignition risks due to stranded energy • Firefighter exposure to toxic gases and VOCs 11:21 – 13:44 | A New Approach to Mitigation • Introduction to reactive substrates like Accugrain • How materials activate at ~60°C • Filtering toxic gases, acids, and VOCs during thermal runaway 13:44 – 17:00 | Testing, Data, and Validation • Third-party lab testing at 100% state of charge • Simulating worst-case “jet engine” thermal runaway scenarios • EPA testing showing reduced HF and VOC levels 17:01 – 19:55 | The Scale of the Problem • Why every structure fire is now a lithium-ion incident • Fire statistics continuing to rise year over year • The disconnect between awareness and reality 19:56 – 20:49 | Managing Large Battery Volumes • Handling hundreds of batteries safely • DOT-compliant poly bins designed for high-energy loads • Long-term storage and roadway transport considerations 20:50 – 23:22 | Deployment for First Responders • What should be carried on chief vehicles vs. hazmat units • Why fire departments—not civilians—should handle overpacking • Making battery mitigation as standard as axes and Halligans 23:22 – 24:06 | Closing Thoughts & Contact Info • Where responders can learn more • Encouragement to test, verify, and adopt safer solutions • Final thanks and wrap-up Key Takeaways • Lithium-ion battery fires are not rare events—they’re embedded in modern fire response. • Traditional suppression methods may cool flames but do not neutralize toxicity or re-ignition risks. • Reactive materials that cool, encapsulate, and filter gases can dramatically improve responder safety. • Every department should rethink its standard equipment loadout to include battery mitigation tools.

We had great traction with the last AI episode, so we dived a little deeper and created a miniseries on the topic. More to come on this one, so strap in, this landscape is shifting quickly. EPISODE SPONSORSRigaku Analytical DevicesRigaku provides handheld Raman analyzers for first responders facing unknown hazards. Their 1064 nm Raman technology reduces fluorescence interference, enabling chemical identification in under a minute—even in difficult samples. Rigaku’s fourth-generation platform expands accessory support to help teams assess hazards faster and safer.https://www.rigakuanalytical.comTeledyne FLIR DefenseCBRNE threats don’t wait for safe locations. Teledyne FLIR Defense equips responders, security professionals, and military personnel with real-time detection tools for mobile, fixed, and covert deployment. From handheld trace detectors to autonomous bio-monitors, their technology ensures rapid threat recognition and evidence-quality documentation in any environment.https://defense.flir.com908 Devices908 Devices delivers handheld chemical analysis tools addressing fentanyl exposure, toxic industrial hazards, and global security threats. Responders use these devices to rapidly detect, identify, and monitor thousands of chemical hazards—bulk or trace—directly at the point of need.https://www.908devices.comObexionFRObexionFR is a mobile solution for lithium-ion battery fires developed by former FDNY HazMat experts. It neutralizes fires by addressing heat, oxygen, and fuel—cooling batteries, isolating oxygen, and preventing re-ignition while maintaining safe gas levels.https://www.obexionfr.comFire Suppression Solutions (FSS)Fire Suppression Solutions, based in Slinger, Wisconsin, is the U.S. master distributor for advanced suppression technologies. Their partnership with LifeSafe Technologies delivers TRF (Thermal Runaway Fluid), proven through testing to extinguish lithium-ion battery fires. Products include A & B fire solutions and BSI-rated systems across 10 categories, including lithium-ion batteries.https://www.firesuppressionsolutions.comTRAINING & RESOURCESthehazmatguys.comthehazmatguys.com/trainingthehazmatguys.com/contactBOOKS & PRODUCTSNHERD Volume 1 — linkNHERD Volume 2 — linkAre You Compliant? — linkBuilding a HazMat Team — linkYou Suck at Teaching HazMat — linkNERHD: The Game — linkMEDIA NETWORKHazard Class — linkIndustrial Strength: Haz Mat Harder — linkMERCHthehazmatguys.com/storeFOLLOWFacebook — linkInstagram — linkLinkedIn — linkYouTube — linkDon’t just get on the job. Get into it.™Music from #InAudio: https://inaudio.org/Sport Rock & Workout