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It's a volatile world. Energy security, trade in primary resources and food supply are all reshaping the rules of resilience.  In this timely episode, CPA Australia's experts unpack how global conflict is affecting the operating environment for business, finance and policy leaders.  With the current geopolitical tensions as the backdrop, learn how energy shocks, supply chain disruption and inflation pressures are forcing a rethink of long-term strategy.  CPA Australia's policy leaders lean into what this crisis also means for net zero targets and sustainability.  Key issues examined include:    • how energy chokepoints drive inflation and policy decisions  • why lean supply chains are now a structural risk  • what resilience really looks like in practice across business and government  • the evolving trade-offs between energy security and net zero goals  • why sustainability is becoming a core part of national security and business planning  Listen in for expert-led insight.  Host: Elinor Kasapidis, Chief of Policy, Professional Standards and External Affairs, CPA Australia.  Guests: Gavan Ord, Business Investment and International Lead, Policy and Advocacy, CPA Australia, and Patrick Viljoen. ESG Lead, Policy and Advocacy, CPA Australia.  For more, head to the CPA Australia website for business strategies to help navigate today's uncertain global landscape.  And check out our YouTube live webinar series on the CPA Australia channel, where you'll find a three-part ESG webinar series, as well as our upcoming live webinar for the federal budget.  We also have insights from the small business survey and a range of other interesting webinars coming up.  Loving this episode?  Listen to more With Interest episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/@CPAaustralia/podcasts  And don't forget to click subscribe to the channel for a wide range of content that will help your career and keep you informed.  CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting:  With Interest https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/with-interest  INTHEBLACK https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack  INTHEBLACK Out Loud https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack-outloud  Excel Tips https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/excel-tips  Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at [email protected] 

It's a volatile world, and businesses are under pressure.  In this episode of With Interest, Gavan Ord, Business Investment and International lead at CPA Australia, explores how businesses are navigating an increasingly unstable global environment marked by geopolitical conflict, cost pressures and economic shocks.  The conversation draws on insights from CPA Australia's Asia-Pacific Small Business Survey to unpack how small and medium enterprises (SMEs) are coping, and what separates those that merely survive from those that emerge stronger.  The discussion emphasises that while volatility is becoming the norm, uncertainty does not have to result in paralysis.  Instead, thoughtful planning, investment in capability, and trusted advice can help businesses build resilience and position for long‑term growth, even as governments and markets remain focused on short‑term crises.  Key areas covered:  How global conflicts, fuel price shocks and inflation affect small businesses across Australia and the APAC region.  How a risk‑averse mindset changes business decision‑making, and the risks of focusing only on cost‑cutting.  What role accountants and advisors can play through scenario planning, forecasting and calming decision‑making.  Why businesses that continue investing in technology, innovation and management capability perform better during crises.  If you're navigating uncertainty in business, this episode has expert insights to help.  Host:  Elinor Kasapidis, Chief of Policy, Standards and External Affairs, CPA Australia  Guest: Gavan Ord, Business Investment and International lead, Policy and Advocacy, CPA Australia  For more, head online for CPA Australia's 17th Asia-Pacific Small Business Survey.  CPA Australia also has tips for managing through tough times and managing through a high cost environment  ABC News finance journalist Alan Kohler talking about fluctuating oil prices on April 7, mentioned in this episode.   Loving this episode? Listen to more With Interest episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube.  https://www.youtube.com/@CPAaustralia/podcasts  And don't forget to click subscribe to the channel for a wide range of content that will help your career.  CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting:  With Interest https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/with-interest  INTHEBLACK https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack  INTHEBLACK Out Loud https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack-outloud  Excel Tips https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/excel-tips  Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at [email protected] 

Payday super is one of the most significant payroll changes in years, and businesses need to act now to be ready.  This episode is like a checklist, breaking down what the shift to real-time super payments means in practice, how compliance will work and what employers should be doing before the July deadline.  Key learnings:  What payday super actually requires beyond more frequent payments  How the seven-day contribution rule will affect payroll processes  Why cash flow planning is critical under the new system  How to prepare payroll systems and work with providers effectively  The risks of incorrect employee super fund data and how to fix it  What changes from ordinary time earnings to qualifying earnings mean  How the ATO will approach compliance in the first year  Key actions for businesses using clearing houses before they close  What high-balance super members should consider ahead of new tax rules  If you handle payroll, finance, or business operations, this conversation will help you avoid common pitfalls, as well as help you take practical action before the deadline to avoid disruption and penalties.  Host: Tahn Sharpe, editor, CPA Australia  Guest: Richard Webb, superannuation lead, Policy and Advocacy, CPA Australia  For more, head to the ATO Payday Super guide.  CPA Australia also has resources on superannuation.  And this article offers more insight.  Loving this episode?  Listen to more With Interest episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/@CPAaustralia/podcasts  And don't forget to click subscribe to the channel for a wide range of content that will help your career.  CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting:  With Interest https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/with-interest  INTHEBLACK https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack  INTHEBLACK Out Loud https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack-outloud  Excel Tips https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/excel-tips  Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at [email protected]

(This encore presentation episode was originally published on Dec 9, 2025)  When anti-money laundering (AML) comes to mind, most accountants assume it only applies to large transactions – but that's now changing.  This episode explains new AML obligations for accountants. Specifically, how the reforms to AML and counter terrorism financing (CTF) in 2026 will affect many accounting practices.  You'll gain a clear understanding of what the changes will mean, including which services fall under the new designated services rules, how the regulator AUSTRAC (Australian Transaction Reports and Analysis Centre) will assess compliance and what firms can do now to prepare.  Key learnings include:  An explanation of the regulator AUSTRAC's role and tranche two reforms to the AML/CTF regime  The timeline for implementation of these new reforms  How to identify whether your services qualify as "designated" services  How to conduct risk assessments  Why client onboarding and beneficial ownership checks will become more detailed  What sole practitioners should consider in meeting new compliance obligations  Tune in now for valuable information on this key reform in 2026.  Host: Neville Birthisel, Advisor, Regulations and Standards, CPA Australia  Guest: Adrian Verdnik, Partner and Section Leader, Banking and Financial Services Practice, Hall & Wilcox. His financial services law practice covers superannuation, managed funds, insurance and financial advice.  Learn more about today's episode guest at the Hall & Wilcox website.  AUSTRAC's site has more information on what accountants need to know about AML and CTF reform.  Additionally, CPA Australia's Public Practice My Firm My Future site has further information on AML and CTF obligations for many practitioners in Australia.  Loving this episode?  Listen to more With Interest episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube.  CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance, and accounting:   With Interest  INTHEBLACK  INTHEBLACK Out Loud  Excel Tips  Search for them in your podcast platform.   Email the podcast team at [email protected]   Disclaimer:   All works contained in this podcast are not intended to constitute legal or professional advice and may not reflect the views and opinions of CPA Australia. CPA Australia does not warrant or make representations as to the accuracy, completeness, suitability or fitness for purpose of this podcast and disclaims all liability and responsibility for any acts or omissions made in reliance of this podcast. Individuals should seek their own independent legal, financial or other advice for their specific circumstances. 

In 2026, auditors are working in an environment defined by AI technologies, heightened scrutiny, regulatory oversight and ethics demands.  Which is why it's vital that professionals in audit understand this evolving landscape. Additionally, how the regulator ASIC views key issues and what it is focusing on in 2026.  ASIC commissioner Kate O'Rourke is this episode's special guest and she discusses the evolution of audit and financial oversight at a pivotal time.  This episode explores:  The biggest forces currently reshaping the audit and assurance landscape in Australia  The key areas where ASIC expect firms to lift their performance  The role of digital tools, automation and AI in enhancing audit quality, risk detection, and regulatory oversight  The safeguards, ethical standards, and governance structure ASIC expects firms to put in place when integrating advanced analytics or AI into audit processes  Emerging major international trends  How stronger global alignment could shape the future of Australia's audit framework  Capabilities that the next generation of auditors need  How regulators, firms, and professional bodies like CPA Australia can work together to build that future-ready workforce pipeline.  Listen now for expert-led insights from ASIC.  Host: Tiffany Tan, audit and assurance lead, CPA Australia.  Guest: Kate O'Rourke, ASIC commissioner. She previously held senior leadership roles at Treasury and has held executive roles at ASIC overseeing corporate transactions and governance. Kate O'Rourke began her five-year term as an ASIC commissioner in September 2023.  ASIC is Australia's integrated corporate, markets, financial services, and consumer credit regulator. It is an independent Australian government body.  Head to ASIC online for more information on its senior leadership.  Loving this episode?  Listen to more With Interest episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube.  And don't forget to click subscribe to the channel for a wide range of content that will help your career.  CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting:  With Interest  INTHEBLACK  INTHEBLACK Out Loud  Excel Tips  Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at [email protected]

We all want to be happy at work. Or at least happier, don't we?  Across this conversation, listeners will learn about a foundational concept: Success often follows happiness rather than causes it.  Drawing on research in positive psychology, the episode outlines how mindset, habits and self-awareness account for a large share of overall wellbeing, far outweighing external circumstances.  It also explains how small, consistent practices such as learning to be grateful can recalibrate the brain's natural bias toward the negative.  Listeners will learn:  The relationship between happiness and leadership  Positive psychology as a field of research  Research data on happiness and how it's a 'skill'  The key components of developing workplace happiness and contentment  How to recognise 'green-light moments'  Ways to shift out of work-related ruts, regain perspective and avoid catastrophising  This Career Hacks episode is a must-listen for anyone looking for that elusive happiness factor at work.  Host: Jacqueline Blondell, Editor, CPA Australia  Guest: Declan Edwards, happiness researcher, speaker, coach and consultant. He is founder of the BU Happiness College, which has a vision of making the skills and science of happiness more accessible to individuals, organisations and the world.  For more information, head to the BU Happiness College on LinkedIn.  Loving this episode? Listen to more INTHEBLACK episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube.  Click subscribe on the channel to stay updated on the latest episodes.  CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance, and accounting:  With Interest  INTHEBLACK  INTHEBLACK Out Loud  Excel Tips  Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at [email protected]

AI is advancing fast – but is it responsible?  In this must-listen episode, global AI expert Dr Rumman Chowdhury shares what you need to know about building AI systems that are fair, transparent and future-ready.  Key insights and questions include:   Is it too late to create a responsible AI environment?  What defines responsible AI?   Managing AI bias and ethical risk   The rise of sovereign AI   Workforce disruption: preparing for AI-driven change  Is AI the final frontier for humans?  Listen now.  Host: Jacqueline Blondell, Content Editor, CPA Australia  Guest: Dr Rumman Chowdhury. She is CEO and co-founder of Humane Intelligence, a nonprofit advancing community-driven AI auditing and evaluation. As the US Science Envoy for AI, Rumman engages in global AI governance efforts with a focus on emerging markets. Previously, she led AI ethics teams at Twitter and Accenture, pioneering enterprise-level AI risk mitigation tools.  Rumman is the CEO and co-founder of Humane Intelligence, and she is speaking at this year's CPA Congress.  You can learn more about Rumman at her website.  Listen to more INTHEBLACK episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube.   CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance, and accounting:  With Interest  INTHEBLACK   INTHEBLACK Out Loud  Excel Tips  Search for them in your podcast platform.  Email the podcast team at [email protected]

In an interconnected world, one trait is fast becoming a must-have skill for finance and accounting professionals. It's cultural intelligence.  This episode explores how understanding cultural differences and adapting your approach can elevate trust, strengthen collaboration and deliver better business outcomes.  With expert-led insights, learn how cultural conditioning shapes trust and what strategies can help you lead with authenticity while respecting cultural norms.  Learn clear, actionable ways to embed cultural agility into daily practice – from client meetings to cross-border negotiations.  Key learnings include:  How to identify and manage cultural blind spots in finance and accounting  Practical strategies to build trust across borders and multicultural teams  Why hierarchy and communication styles matter in Asia-Pacific contexts  How culturally intelligent leaders navigate ambiguity and high-stakes decisions  Tips for balancing authenticity with cultural adaptability in global business  Whether you're leading an international team, negotiating cross-border deals or simply aiming to sharpen your Asia capability, this episode will give you insights to succeed in today's global finance landscape.  Host: Tahn Sharpe, INTHEBLACK Editor, CPA Australia  Guest: Charlotta Oberg, Program Director, Asialink Leaders Program, Associate Director, Capability Development at Asialink Business  Links:  You can take a short, self-paced or facilitated course with the Asialink Business Academy.  Gain credentialed Asia insights and connections through the Asialink Leader Program.   And be inspired by Asia-capable leaders across sectors, including financial services.   Listen to more With Interest episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube.   CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance, and accounting:   With Interest  INTHEBLACK   INTHEBLACK Out Loud  Excel Tips  Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at [email protected]

Private credit is booming. But do investors fully understand the risks?  In this episode, learn the mechanics of private credit, its place within the private capital universe and why it's suddenly everywhere - from retail portfolios to billion-dollar super funds.  Key takeaways include:  Why private credit is not the "bond-like risk" some claim it is  How super funds allocate private credit under regulatory pressure  Why borrower type, loan structure and economic cycles matter  What needs to change in how private credit is marketed  The potential regulatory interventions on the horizon  Whether you're an institutional investor or private wealth adviser, this episode is a must-listen.  Host: Tahn Sharpe, Editor INTHEBLACK, CPA Australia  Guest: Michael Block, CIO, Bellmont Securities  You can learn about Bellmont Securities at their website  and find them on LinkedIn.  Additionally, discover more with this overview of private credit from the RBA.  And you can read Michael's contributions on Investor Strategy News:  The four-letter word private credit investors have forgotten   Credit's day of reckoning is upon us  You can find a CPA at our custom portal on the CPA Australia website.  Would you like to listen to more INTHEBLACK episodes? Head to CPA Australia's YouTube channel.  CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance, and accounting: With Interest  INTHEBLACK   INTHEBLACK Out Loud  Excel Tips  Search for them in your podcast platform.  Email the podcast team at [email protected]

How do you maintain your strategic focus in such a volatile global market?  Sanjeev Gandhi, Orica's managing director and CEO, shares his insightful views on this and much more.  Gandhi and CPA Australia CEO Chris Freeland chatted on stage at the recent ECTA (Economic Trade and Agreement) Unleashed event – a one-day conference held in Sydney between CPA Australia and the Australian (Sydney) chapter of The Institute of Chartered Accountants of India.  The event connected CPA Australia members, community leaders, business, and government agencies to deliver practical insights and technical information on both the Australian and Indian markets.  This episode is a recording of that insightful conversation.  Gandhi outlines the realities of operating in more than 130 jurisdictions and explains why the last five years have marked the most unpredictable period of his career.  This conversation also covers issues such as:  Navigating global volatility  Opportunities created by geopolitical shifts  The Australia-India partnership  Productivity and policy challenges in Australia  Shifts from globalisation to localisation  Listen in now.  Host: Chris Freeland AM, CEO, CPA Australia  Guest: Sanjeev Gandhi, Managing Director and CEO, Orica  Head to Orica's website and LinkedIn for more information.  And you can learn about this event at its CPA Australia page.  Loving this episode? Listen to more With Interest episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube.  CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance, and accounting:  With Interest  INTHEBLACK  INTHEBLACK Out Loud  Excel Tips  Search for them in your podcast platform.  Email the podcast team at [email protected]

All works contained in this podcast are not intended to constitute legal or professional advice and may not reflect the views and opinions of CPA Australia. CPA Australia does not warrant or make representations as to the accuracy, completeness, suitability or fitness for purpose of this podcast and disclaims all liability and responsibility for any acts or omissions made in reliance of this podcast. Individuals should seek their own independent legal, financial or other advice for their specific circumstances. When anti-money laundering (AML) comes to mind, most accountants assume it only applies to large transactions – but that's now changing.  This episode explains new AML obligations for accountants. Specifically, how the reforms to AML and counter terrorism financing (CTF) in 2026 will affect many accounting practices.  You'll gain a clear understanding of what the changes will mean, including which services fall under the new designated services rules, how the regulator AUSTRAC (Australian Transaction Reports and Analysis Centre) will assess compliance and what firms can do now to prepare.  Key learnings include:  An explanation of the regulator AUSTRAC's role and tranche two reforms to the AML/CTF regime  The timeline for implementation of these new reforms  How to identify whether your services qualify as "designated" services  How to conduct risk assessments  Why client onboarding and beneficial ownership checks will become more detailed  What sole practitioners should consider in meeting new compliance obligations  Tune in now for valuable information on this key reform in 2026.    Host: Neville Birthisel, Advisor, Regulations and Standards, CPA Australia  Guest: Adrian Verdnik, Partner and Section Leader, Banking and Financial Services Practice, Hall & Wilcox. His financial services law practice covers superannuation, managed funds, insurance and financial advice.  Learn more about today's episode guest at the Hall & Wilcox website.  AUSTRAC's site has more information on what accountants need to know about AML and CTF reform.  Additionally, CPA Australia's Public Practice My Firm My Future site has further information on AML and CTF obligations for many practitioners in Australia.  Loving this episode?  Listen to more With Interest episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube.  CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance, and accounting:  With Interest  INTHEBLACK  INTHEBLACK Out Loud  Excel Tips  Search for them in your podcast platform.  Email the podcast team at [email protected] 

AI has become one of the most-used business technologies. But delve deeper into the biz tech data and there's another story to be told.  In the latest CPA Australia Business Technology Report, 89 per cent of respondents said their organisation used AI in 2025, up from 69 per cent in 2024 and 55 per cent in 2023.  Yet only 16 per cent report that AI is fully embedded across their operations.  Most teams are still experimenting, often relying on free or basic tools rather than structured, strategic adoption. The gap between usage and true integration points to significant untapped potential.  Many core finance and operational processes are still only lightly digitised, despite clear opportunities for efficiency, clarity and improved decision-making.  This episode examines how finance and accounting teams can use AI to strengthen systems and create capacity where it matters most.  Drawing on the survey's findings, you'll hear how top-performing businesses integrate AI across their workflows and why mindset, curiosity and practical governance underpin successful adoption.  Gain a grounded view of how firms apply AI in everyday workflows, supported by data from CPA Australia's annual tech and business report.  Listen now for practical steps to help your business integrate AI.  Host: Gavan Ord, Business Investment and International Lead, Policy and Advocacy, CPA Australia  Guest: Kyelie Baxter FCPA, Managing Director, IQ Accountants  The CPA Australia Business Technology Report 2025 is a valuable resource for those who want the latest tech usage trends by business.  Additionally, this YouTube webinar Securing the Future: AI, Cybersecurity & the Road to Tech-Driven Growth has related insights with industry experts and technology leaders discussing the latest trends, challenges and strategies in building tech-forward organisations.   And for more on this episode's guest, head to IQ Accountants on LinkedIn.  Loving this episode? Listen to more With Interest episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube.  CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance, and accounting: With Interest  INTHEBLACK  INTHEBLACK Out Loud  Excel Tips  Search for them in your podcast platform.  Email the podcast team at [email protected]

Did you know that one of Australia's biggest superannuation reforms in decades is starting in July 2026? Are you prepared for the change? In short, with legislation moving through Parliament, Australia will move from quarterly to payday-based superannuation payments – a significant shift with implications across business. This expert-led episode, featuring three guests, explores the systems issues and regulatory implications as well as why Payday Super is happening and the benefits of this change to employees. Key takeaways include: How cash flow, payroll systems and compliance will be affected by this change The closure of the Small Business Super Clearinghouse (SBSCH) How the seven-day payment rule will work for missing payments Practical steps accountants can take to help prepare clients early Listen now for expert advice to help you prepare for the changes coming soon to superannuation in Australia. Host: Tahn Sharpe, Editor, INTHEBLACK Guests: Kristen Yarbrough, Product Manager at CloudPayroll Gavan Ord, Business Investment and International Lead, Policy and Advocacy, CPA Australia Richard Webb, Superannuation Lead, Policy, Standards and External Affairs, CPA Australia Learn more about CloudPayroll at its website and its LinkedIn account. And you can read an article about Payday Super on INTHEBLACK. Loving this episode? Tune in to more With Interest episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube.  And don't forget to subscribe. CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting: With Interest INTHEBLACK INTHEBLACK Out Loud Excel Tips Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at [email protected]

Australia remains one of the few advanced economies still using PDFs for financial reporting – a format most global markets have already left behind. In this episode, you'll gain expert-led insights on why adopting digital financial reporting in Australia is critical to supporting trust, transparency and competitiveness in global markets. Explore how structured data allows regulators, investors and businesses to analyse and compare information more efficiently, driving better decision-making and reducing capital costs. Listeners will learn: How structured data improves accountability and investor confidence Why global markets already mandate digital reporting standards The link between digital disclosure and lower capital costs How AI will enhance – not replace – digital reporting workflows What Australian policymakers can learn from global peers Learn why CPA Australia is recommending a mandate for digital reporting by listed entities in this expert-led discussion. Listen now. Host: Ram Subramanian, External Reporting Lead, Policy, Standards and External Affairs, CPA Australia Guest: John Turner, CEO of XBRL International, a global, non-profit standards body dedicated to improving business performance through enhanced transparency and accountability in reporting. With a background in law, IT, and government, he has led innovation in business model design, systems development and data standards for over two decades. For more, INTHEBLACK has an article on why digital reporting should be mandatory in Australia. Additionally, this interim report from 2025 by the Productivity Commission provides broader context to digital reporting. And you can find out John Turner's organisation XBRL at its website. Loving this episode? Listen to more INTHEBLACK episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube. And don't forget to click subscribe on the channel. CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance, and accounting: With Interest INTHEBLACK INTHEBLACK Out Loud Excel Tips Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at [email protected]

In this special episode of With Interest, CPA Australia CEO Chris Freeland sits down with Australia's Auditor General, Dr Caralee McLiesh, for an exclusive fireside chat on public sector challenges.  The conversation builds on Dr McLiesh's keynote address on performance management in the Commonwealth public sector, drawing on insights from the Australian National Audit Office (ANAO) annual report, released in September 2025.  The discussion took place following a roundtable lunch in Canberra on 5 August 2025, where CPA Australia convened senior public sector leaders to hear Dr McLiesh's keynote before she joined Chris Freeland to expand on the key themes.  Listen now.  Speakers: Dr Caralee McLiesh, Auditor-General of Australia and Chris Freeland, CEO, CPA Australia. You can listen to the keynote speech from the roundtable in full by Australia's Auditor-General, Dr Caralee McLiesh. For more information about the Australian National Audit Office (ANAO) head to its website.  And you can learn more about Dr Caralee McLiesh's career from this PMC statement following her announcement as Australia's auditor general in 2024.   Listen to more With Interest episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube.   CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance, and accounting: With Interest  INTHEBLACK   INTHEBLACK Out Loud  Excel Tips  Search for them in your podcast platform.   Email the podcast team at [email protected]