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Date created
2016/10/02
Latest episode
2026/10/05
Average duration
107 min.
Release period
34 days
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Two sisters reread their favorite YA fantasy classics and discuss why they may be even better for adults.
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Court Duel by Sherwood Smith
2026/10/05
Grab your fan and eavesdrop behind a tapestry! Crown Duel established an uneasy political piece; Court Duel investigates the fallout through a noble’s lens. Mel’s post-rebellion efforts pull her into court, with all of its secrets, deception and hair gems. Every man is beautiful and every woman a mystery, and Mel defies understanding with her war hero reputation and country bumpkin manners. We discuss the series’ (now a single book’s) unusual structure, watching your crush write you an anonymous letter without realizing they’re your secret admirer, and being disappointed by Bran. Join us!
MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
Return of the Thief by Megan Whalen Turner
2026/08/03
Return of the Thief closes out the Queen’s Thief series with thrills, spills (meaningful falls off of horses) and the kind of chills that only Megan Whalen Turner can pull off - and we lapped up every single sentence. Pheris, maybe the best protagonist of the series, witnesses the culmination of the Mede / Little Peninsula conflict and finds himself along the way. We discuss this entry’s Big Twists, MWT’s remarkable consistency of character development, and how Gen has finally met his match in Pheris. We’re swinging from chandeliers and dancing on palace rooftops - join us!
Our other Queen’s Thief episodes:
The Thief
The Queen of Attolia
The King of Attolia
A Conspiracy of Kings
Thick as Thieves
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The Capture by Kathryn Lasky
2026/05/18
It’s a Harnois Sibling Spectacular - we’re covering The Capture by Kathryn Lasky with none other than our brother, Patrick! Book 1 of the Guardians of Ga’Hoole series is a brutal look at fascist owl overlords and the revolutionaries quietly defying them. Young Soren and Gylfie experience perils, found family and the terrors of moon blinking after being ripped away from their parents. We delight in The Owliness of It All and the ways this book permits young readers to question the authorities in their lives while celebrating their coming of age. In the words of Twilight: "I am big -- right you are! But I am delicate and beautiful. I can float! I can skim.” If that’s not enough to convince you to listen, I don’t know what will!
Please visit https://www.dragonbabiespodcast.com/ for a character gallery aka a whole lotta owl pics.
MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
Year of the Griffin by Diana Wynne Jones
2026/04/20
Triumphant griffin scream!! We’re back with Derk’s brood 8 years after the events of Dark Lord of Derkholm, and it’s his daughter Elda’s time to shine. She’s enrolled at the Wizards’ University alongside fellow oddball first years Felim, Olga, Lukin, Ruskin and Claudia, and they’re realizing there’s not much learning to be had there. When the inept chairman Corkoran, obsessed with flying to the moon and uninterested in all else, betrays their secret enrollment, the university is beset by assassins and concerned relatives. We discuss the lure of a magical pit, terrible admins, Giant Woman / Tiny Man romance, and why DWJ absolutely owns a Fantasy Romp. Join us!
Thanks to our many listeners who keep the DWJ request fires stoked.
MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
The Owl Service by Alan Garner
2026/03/29
In lieu of a standard episode description, I will simply say: I spent the whole book expecting the “Owl Service” to be some kind of organized operation, perhaps to threaten outsiders or deliver pellets into enemies’ quarters. Only now, upon reflection, do I realize that it is a description of the set of plates. I am a fool and the owls are beyond me. They should be flowers, anyway.
This book defies description and we laughed, cried and wondered in reading it for the first time. Thank you, as always, for introducing us to magnificent books that we missed in our childhoods! This one’s for our listeners.
SIGNIFICANT pronunciation disclaimer. It would be painful to come off as disrespectful of the Welsh language and its folkore when we are actually pronunciation-challenged and (unfortunately) too American. Please know that we love learning more about the Mabinogion and can only improve from here!
EPISODE MEDIA
This was a very visual episode! Visit https://www.dragonbabiespodcast.com/ to see everything we reference.
MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
Revenge of the Witch by Joseph Delaney
2026/03/06
Grab your blood cakes and head to Mother Malkin’s pit! We’re reading Revenge of the Witch by Joseph Delaney. As the seventh son of a seventh son, Tom is destined to become the Spook’s apprentice (at least according to his mom). He learns to trap boggarts under steel (just don’t get your fingers stuck!!) and imprison witches in barred pits - and makes friends like Alice, a girl with suspiciously pointy shoes, along the way. Grim, gross and fascinating, this is an apprenticeship like no other and we have so much to discuss. We are all witches, but are we good witches or bad witches? The Spook recommends putting us into pits just as a precaution. Join us!
MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
Terciel and Elinor by Garth Nix
2026/01/24
We take our first step outside the Abhorsen trilogy to learn more about Terciel and Elinor, aka Papa and Mama Sabriel! Beautifully streamlined storytelling adds series background - the basics of Charter magic at Wyverly, historical Ancelstierre/Old Kingdom relations, an exceptional gender-swapped playwright named Charlotte Breakspear - while bringing Tercial and Elinor together and giving their lives true purpose. A perfect prequel!
Our other Old Kingdom episodes:
Sabriel / Sabriel Redux
Lirael
Abhorsen
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The Amulet of Samarkand by Jonathan Stroud
2025/12/22
We loved this introduction to the Bartimaeus Trilogy! It’s taken us far too long to discover Jonathan Stroud’s work, and we’re now absolute Bartimaeus heads. We break down the appeal of Nathaniel and Bartimaeus’ alternating angry/gleeful perspectives, the burgeoning anticapitalist themes, and why history continues to repeat itself (spoiler humans are the worst). Grab your sassiest djinni footnotes and join us!
Children of Virtue and Vengeance by Tomi Adeyemi
2025/11/24
We continue Tomi Adeyemi’s Legacy of Orïsha series! Children of Virtue and Vengeance sees protagonists Zélie and Amari at odds as they attempt to overthrow the monarchy led by Amari’s mother and brother Inan (who is, surprise, still alive). Except the nobility has magic now - and they’re really violent about it! Leading a group of rebel maji, Zélie works to bring balance back to Orïsha as Amari flounders (and massacres???).
Coming off the high of the first book, we were disappointed by the pacing, character choices and general magical confusion of the sequel. Join us as we break it all down!
Other episodes mentioned -
Children of Blood and Bone by Tomi Adeyemi
Akata Witch by Nnedi Okorafor
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The Reality Bug by D.J. MacHale
2025/11/16
BOBBY IS IN THE MATRIX. We continue the Pendragon series with this journey into the mind, and the ensuing fever dream of a computer virus come to life. We have a wide-ranging conversation touching on AI psychosis, Bobby’s inability to self-censor, copaganda, and whatever gloid is. This is a wild one so get into your Lifeflight tube and don’t forget your nutrition / excretion skin pads!!
EPISODE MEDIA
Our other Pendragon episodes (we will not rest until we’ve covered the one about the cat people):
The Merchant of Death
The Lost City of Faar
The Never War
Eddy Burback’s ChatGPT video
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The Weirdstone of Brisingamen by Alan Garner
2025/10/13
Dwarves, gargantuan evil and much too tiny tunnels - we’re covering The Weirdstone of Brisingamen, by Alan Garner! Cheshire visitors Susan and Colin have come to stay with farmers Gowther and Bess and tromp around Alderley Edge. Said tromping unearths a centuries-long battle between good and evil - all connected to the mysterious teardrop gem in Susan’s family heirloom bracelet. Tolkien inspiration is on full display but Garner creates a world utterly his own, replete with a heady brew of Norse, Welsh, Celtic and Arthurian mythology plus a little Lovecraftian unspeakable horror. Join us!
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The Land of Oz by L. Frank Baum
2025/09/15
The second book in the Oz series, The Land of Oz begins introducing us to its stranger inhabitants and endless opportunities for adventure. Protagonist Tip escapes his cruel captor Mombi and brings a pumpkin man and a sawhorse to life as he journeys in search of purpose. We encounter our old friends the Scarecrow and Nick Chopper, the Tin Woodman as Tip helps them thwart General Jinjur and her girl army, and finally set the rightful Queen of Oz upon the throne. We discuss homunculi and their internal lives, the endless misery of a road trip with the Wogglebug, and Tip’s failings as a new dad. Join us!
MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
Tales from Earthsea by Ursula K. Le Guin
2025/08/25
We’re back in Earthsea and we’re BEGGING to unleash our draconic rage. Following Ursula’s instructions, we’re covering her short story collection before wrapping up the Earthsea Cycle with The Other Wind. Stories include The Finder, Darkrose and Diamond, The Bones of the Earth, On the High Marsh, and Dragonfly. This is a particularly hefty episode so dig on in!
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The Magicians of Caprona by Diana Wynne Jones
2025/08/04
We’re bravely continuing to cover the Chrestomanci series in whatever order we please. It’s time to revisit The Magicians of Caprona by Diana Wynne Jones! The Montanas and the Petrocchis have a generations-deep family feud, but are forced to work together when their children Tonino and Angelica go missing. Their Italian hometown of Caprona is beset by a mysterious enchanter who manages to throw off the families’ magic and confuse them at every turn. Featuring the most frightening puppet scene, the grossest cursed kitchen, and the biggest cat, this small stakes story still offers delightful maximalism. Grab your Punch and Judy collection and join us!
Our other Chrestomanci episodes:
Charmed Life
Witch Week
The Lives of Christopher Chant
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The Changeling by Zilpha Keatley Snyder
2025/06/30
Our Zilpha Keatley Snyder hyperfixation continues with The Changeling. If you’ve been looking for a way to connect with your child self, this book is it. Ivy and Martha access magical worlds, set pork chop traps for cryptids, and attempt righteous horse theft and the rest of Rosewood Manor can’t handle it. We discuss the pain of aging out of make believe, suburban class tensions, and the healing power of the stage. We’re all changelings and we’ll never grow up - join us!
Other ZKS episodes:
The Witches of Worm
The Egypt Game
The Headless Cupid
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Chimmy2424 2025/09/13
Wonderful introspective nostalgia
Listening to Grace and Madeleine feels like I’m in a super interesting book club conversation. They are very knowledgeable about fantasy books and hav...
Nonpoet 2025/08/27
Nostalgic and thoughtful
I love that this podcast both reminds me of favorite and forgotten reads of years past and discusses books in a way that casually brings new insights....
Oregano24 2025/05/13
Diana Wynne Jones 🙏
Big fan of the podcast, especially the DWJ episodes! I hope you get a chance to review Year of the Griffin at some point. It’s the sequel to Dark Lord...
#1 Butter Pie Fan 2023/01/31
Nostalgia + new reads
Grace and Madeline revisit YA fantasy classics in a way that makes you both nostalgic and excited. I always discover new ideas/angles on books I read ...
MissNW808 2022/06/19
Quality care bear
This content, while foreign to me, is refreshing and fascinating! Fun fact, I tried to read red wall as a kid because of a bOy 🙄 but I’m glad I grew ...
Rubyseauxheaux 2022/06/17
So much fun!
I love Dragon Babies! Grace and Madeline are so delightful. I love revisiting some old favorites and discovering new books long with the show.
Unevenkeeled 2022/05/13
Personable and conversational
One of my new [to me] favorite podcasts! The hosts (sisters) dive into each book in a way that is very relatable, even if I’m a xennial. My first fant...
EmilyTrivette1 2021/07/14
Dragonsong
I thought I was the only pre teen girl who found and fell in love with these books. Honestly, Anne McCaffrey helped shape a lot of my life, which I kn...
Isabel Susanna 2021/03/01
Always a joy and a comfort!
I’ve been listening to your podcast for a while now, and have even sent in some recommendations (which you then used!!), but never formally wrote a re...
JustAnotherLokiVariant 2020/09/06
🐉 Rider
There was a Dragon Rider film released in theaters on August 6 2020. It is a German animated film featuring Felicity Jones, Patrick Stuart, Freddie Hi...
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