Under the Scales

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4.9
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1430 reviews
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226 episodes
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Date created
2016/10/07
Latest episode
2026/03/25
Average duration
79 min.
Release period
29 days

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Under the Scales is a podcast by Tom Marshall, longtime songwriter for the band Phish. The podcast captures and brings to light the rich and complex culture surrounding Phish and its diverse, devoted fanbase. Phish’s quirky sense of humor pervades and steers the podcast. Tom will interview the band, fans, insiders, outsiders…and dare to go UNDER THE SCALES to uncover the beating heart of Phish! Presented by Osiris Media.

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Trey Guitars Pt. 2 (re-release)
2026/03/25
Trey Anastasio explains the magic of Paul Languedoc's guitars to me and Dan Kanter.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Trey Guitars Pt. 1 (re-release)
2026/03/23
Trey Anastasio shares years of guitar insights with me and Dan Kanter. Originally released in 2017. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Tapers (re-release)
2026/03/19
Co-hosts RJ and Jonathan and I take a DEEP DIVE into Tapers. Tapers are a huge part of Phish's history...but what are they? Who are they? Let's find out. Take a deep breath and jump in with us. Originally released in 2016. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The Songwriting Weekend (re-release)
2026/03/17
In 1997, Trey and I escaped for long weekends to write a lot of songs which eventually appeared on Phish albums and became part of Phish's live repertoire. This is the story of one of those weekends, and how it got off to a *horrifying* start. Trey listened to this and said "it's like the secret backstory for the song Twist" -- and it really is. Originally released in 2016. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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HF Pod Mt. Rushmore: Carini
2025/06/11
Sharing an episode from our other podcast, the Helping Friendly Podcast, where the hosts discuss and choose their top 4 versions of Carini. Enjoy! -- Thanks for joining us for our Carini Mt. Rushmore episode! Join us next week for our Summer 2025 Venue Draft. RJ (official) 2/17/97 12/30/12 8/3/18 7/26/23 Brian 2/17/97 10/31/13 9/3/21 10/16/21 Megan 2/17/97 10/18/13 9/1/17 10/16/21 Please give us a call at (484) 416-0488 and leave us your thoughts and questions! And give us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.  The Helping Friendly Podcast is hosted and produced by Brian Brinkman, Megan Glionna, and RJ Bee. Original music by Amar Sastry. Brought to you by ⁠⁠⁠⁠Osiris Media⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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HF Pod Mt. Rushmore: Down With Disease
2025/06/09
Here's an episode from our other podcast, the Helping Friendly Podcast, where the hosts choose their top 4 versions of Down With Disease. Enjoy! -- Thanks for joining us to talk about our top versions of Down With Disease. Our picks are below. Enjoy! Brian (official) 8/17/97 12/31/99 10/29/13 7/16/22 Megan 6/26/95 6/15/00 10/29/13 4/21/24 RJ 12/12/95 6/15/00 6/3/11 10/29/13 And vote on the 2001 Mt. Rushmore, which we'll be discussing in two weeks: ⁠⁠osirispod.com/rushmore⁠⁠ Please give us a call at (484) 416-0488 and leave us your thoughts and questions! And give us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.  The Helping Friendly Podcast is hosted and produced by Brian Brinkman, Megan Glionna, and RJ Bee. Original music by Amar Sastry. Brought to you by ⁠⁠Osiris Media⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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HF Pod: Do You Have to Be There to Get It?
2025/06/06
Here's a fun one from our friends at HF Pod. -- Today we have a brief conversation about live music fandom, and whether you need to be at the show to really "get it." And vote on the Down With Disease Mt. Rushmore, which we'll be discussing next week: ⁠⁠osirispod.com/rushmore⁠⁠ Please give us a call at (484) 416-0488 and leave us your thoughts and questions! And give us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.  The Helping Friendly Podcast is hosted and produced by Brian Brinkman, Megan Glionna, and RJ Bee. Original music by Amar Sastry. Brought to you by ⁠⁠Osiris Media⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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HF Pod Mt. Rushmore: Harry Hood
2025/06/03
Here's an episode from our friends at HF Pod, where they each choose the top 4 versions of Harry Hood. Enjoy! -- We're ready to put the top 4 versions of Harry Hood on Mt. Rushmore! Thanks for joining us. Next episode, we're doing Light. To vote for your top four versions, go here: ⁠OsirisPod.com/Rushmore⁠ Please give us a call at (484) 416-0488 and leave us your thoughts and questions! And give us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.  The Helping Friendly Podcast is hosted and produced by Brian Brinkman, Megan Glionna, and RJ Bee. Original music by Amar Sastry. Brought to you by ⁠Osiris Media⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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HF Pod Mt. Rushmore: Bathtub Gin
2025/03/10
Sharing an episode of our longest-running Phish podcast, HF Pod. Here's the first episode of a fun new series, Mt. Rushmore. -- Welcome to the first episode of our new series, Mt. Rushmore! Today we're talking about the four versions of Bathtub Gin that belong on that mountain. Thanks for listening! Next week we're tackling Harry Hood. To vote for your top four versions, go here: OsirisPod.com/Rushmore Please give us a call at (484) 416-0488 and leave us your thoughts and questions! And give us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.  The Helping Friendly Podcast is hosted and produced by Brian Brinkman, Megan Glionna, and RJ Bee. Original music by Amar Sastry. Brought to you by Osiris Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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HF Pod Tweezer Draft
2025/03/06
We wanted to bring you a couple episodes from our longest-running Phish podcast, the Helping Friendly Podcast. We thought you'd enjoy some of these draft episodes. Thank you. -- That's right folks, we brought the draft back and we brought it back real serious like. We're drafting Tweezers. Please give us a call at (484) 416-0488 and leave us your thoughts and questions! And give us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.  The Helping Friendly Podcast is hosted and produced by Brian Brinkman, Megan Glionna, Jonathan Hart, and RJ Bee. Brought to you by Osiris Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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HF Pod Phish Summer 2024 Venue Draft
2025/03/03
We wanted to bring you a couple episodes from our longest-running Phish podcast, the Helping Friendly Podcast. We thought you'd enjoy some of these draft episodes. Thank you. -- Today we have a special draft episode! Brian, Megan, and RJ each chose one show from each region / city / state where Phish will be playing this Summer. Below are our draft choices. Let us know who you think emerged victorious! RJ 7/1/95 10/27/13 6/26/04 7/29/98 7/25/99 8/12/93 10/31/94 Big Cypress 8/31/12 Megan 7/8/94 11/26/97 7/14/19 8/16/93 8/6/21 11/11/98 12/14/95 The Great Went 9/6/15 Brian 7/13/99 6/30/00 8/1/98 11/19/96 8/10/97 12/6/97 7/13/94 IT 8/31/18 Please give us a call at (484) 416-0488 and leave us your thoughts and questions! And give us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.  The Helping Friendly Podcast is hosted and produced by Brian Brinkman, Megan Glionna, Jonathan Hart, and RJ Bee. Original music by Amar Sastry. Brought to you by Osiris Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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HF Pod 25+ Minute Jam Draft
2025/02/27
We wanted to bring you a couple episodes from our longest-running Phish podcast, the Helping Friendly Podcast. We thought you'd enjoy some of these draft episodes. Thank you. -- We're back with another fun, competitive, and intense draft. This one is really fun. We each draft jams in different categories (see below, spoiler alert!). Thanks for listening, and if you have thoughts on who you think won the draft, please leave us a voicemail (484-416-0488) or email us. Please give us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.  The Helping Friendly Podcast is hosted and produced by Brian Brinkman, Megan Glionna, Jonathan Hart, and RJ Bee. Original music by Amar Sastry. Brought to you by Osiris Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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HF Pod 2024 Show Draft
2025/02/24
We wanted to bring you a couple episodes from our longest-running Phish podcast, the Helping Friendly Podcast. We thought you'd enjoy some of these draft episodes. Thank you. -- We're back with a new, exciting draft, this time of 2024 shows. Megan defends her crown and Brian and RJ try to claw their way back to the top. It'll be fierce and competitive. But the real draft win is the friends we made along the way. Vote for the winner here: osirispod.com/vote Please give us a call at (484) 416-0488 and leave us your thoughts and questions! And give us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.  The Helping Friendly Podcast is hosted and produced by Brian Brinkman, Megan Glionna, Jonathan Hart, and RJ Bee. Original music by Amar Sastry. Brought to you by Osiris Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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HF Pod Phish Album Draft
2025/02/20
We wanted to bring you a couple episodes from our longest-running Phish podcast, the Helping Friendly Podcast. We thought you'd enjoy some of these draft episodes. Thank you. -- Thanks for joining us as we do dive back into drafts, this time of Phish's studio albums. This one was a lot of fun and we hope you enjoy. Vote on who you thought won the draft: OsirisPod.com/draft Share your top versions of Bathtub Gin for our Mt. Rushmore series: OsirisPod.com/Rushmore Please give us a call at (484) 416-0488 and leave us your thoughts and questions! And give us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.  The Helping Friendly Podcast is hosted and produced by Brian Brinkman, Megan Glionna, and RJ Bee. Original music by Amar Sastry. Brought to you by Osiris Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Festival Circuit Newport Folk E5: When We Dream Together (Re-Release)
2025/02/18
For the series finale, we go back to the Fort. Join us as we bring you the sights and sounds we experienced at Fort Adams as Newport Folk returned after a necessary break in 2020, and presented their six-day, half capacity 2021 festival, Folk On. We'll take you from the meaningful first notes sung by the first performers to grace the stage, Resistance Revival Chorus, to one of the last - Lake Street Dive, and their tribute to beloved member of the folk family and former WFUV Program Director, the late Rita Houston. We also hear from Andrew Bird and Hiss Golden Messenger's MC Taylor about their return to performing and paying homage to John Prine, from mandolin virtuoso Chris Thile about the magic of Newport and why it continues to gives him hope, and the kismet journey of Allison Russell organizing and performing during the most talked about set at Folk On, Sunday night's 'Once and Future Sounds', curated by, and featuring women of color, with a very very special guest. We also check in with Margo Price and Jeremy Ivey, Katie Crutchfield (Waxahatchee), Yola, Newport Executive Director Jay Sweet, and many other artists, fans and members of the Folk family about their experiences at Folk On, their reflections of the past 18 months, and where we are headed. Through it all, the feeling of family and community is ever present, giving us the courage to take tentative steps forward, leaning into the truth and power of music, and the magic that happens when we dream together. Festival Circuit: Newport Folk is presented by Osiris Media, and hosted by Carmel Holt. It is co-written, co-produced and edited by Carmel and Julian Booker, who is also the series' audio engineer. Production assistance from Zach Brogan. Executive producers are RJ Bee and Christina Collins. Show Logo and art by Mark Dowd.  The series theme music is "Ruminations Pt. 3 (Afternoon Haze)" by Steven Warwick. Thanks to Billy Glassner of the Newport Festivals Foundation for providing archival audio. Thanks to our Folk Family guests Abena Koomson-Davis, Nelini Stamp, Andrew Bird, MC Taylor, Margo Price, Jeremy Ivey, Yola, Allison Russell, Dan Knobler, Samantha Betley, Josh Wool, Julien Baker, Holland Saltzman, Nancy Sheed, Natalie Hemby, Katie Crutchfield, Jay Sweet, Chris Thile, Jonathan Russell, Rachael Price and Bridget Kearney. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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4.9 out of 5
1430 reviews
Brittany Spears with a Knife 2025/12/12
4th Rate Knock-Off Intro Music
First time checking this out. Was pretty distracted by the intro music. Why give an un-indoctrinated casual listener who stumbles by even the slightes...
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phat413 2025/03/12
Gin Mt Rushmore!
Great show! I’m leaning more 2/22 than 2/28. But can’t argue with your list. Thanks for the content
The Name's Slick 2024/11/01
Must Listen Podcast for Phish Fans!!!
I love this so much. Last episode with the host from Beyond the Pond is great! I love learning about new music and inspires people musically! Their Sp...
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Zack0513 2024/06/28
Tom’s amazing podcast
Love all the insights, love the podcast, and love Tom!
Wilson KOP 2024/10/09
Great but a nitpick
I do LOVE the show and don’t want to sound ungrateful but agree with another reviewer about “listener whiplash”. Feed is a bit all over the place and ...
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DaMonkeyNutz 2024/06/20
The best phish podcast!
This podcast is sooooo helping and friendly!
Lindalily 2023/09/14
Phish Bait for the soul!
Undermine brings an intimate look at all things Phish and adds a personal touch, oftentimes giving us the feeling that we are sitting in the room and ...
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Margoinmexico 2022/12/04
LOVE IT!!!!
It is so fun to hear such fun interviews and stories! Thanks so much! Bless you! I LOVE UNDERMIND! It’s my favorite podcast actually! I have learned s...
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msgsuqlwnd 2023/07/20
Undermine = Good, We’ve got a band = Bad
Undermine itself is a good fun listen. It’s a couple of passionate nerds talking about epic moments in Phish history. We’ve got a band, the latest re...
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Bmsnow54 2022/10/08
Whiplash
I have listener whiplash with this podcast. The original Under the Scales was great listening and all that I look for in a podcast. Then the show went...
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