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This is it. The final episode (side 1) of The Get a Grip on Lighting Podcast. Michael and Greg reflect on the past 8 years and 400+ episodes.     Sponsor: Keystone, www.keystonetech.com

Building the Boat While the Water is Rising with Scott Wachter [Pat: this is the new title changed from the live stream]In this second-to-final episode of Get a Grip on Lighting, hosts Michael and Greg sit down with Scott Wachter — the mind behind the Lighting Industry News Brief and a key player in countless NAILD projects since 2019.✨ Highlights:Scott reflects on his journey from theater kid to the lighting industry’s go-to reporter.Behind-the-scenes stories: live stream chaos, hilarious committee misfires, and the infamous “gun case in Vegas.”The art of writing quirky titles (“TVs Blossom” explained!) and why reporting beats opinion-driven journalism.Favorite wins, surprising failures, and the joy of seeing the News Brief chart alongside CNN and Bloomberg.Scott’s next chapter: taking over Restoring Darkness and pushing it to new heights.🔥 Why watch?This episode is part farewell, part celebration — honoring Scott as the “George Harrison” of the Get a Grip band.Connect with Scott:https://naild.org/lighting-industry-news-brief/https://restoringdarkness.com/darkness-news-update/linkedin.com/in/scott-wachter-5a3109113Sponsor: Satco, satco.com

In this episode, Michael and Greg sit down with Devin Wall, one of the inventive forces behind Louvers International, to unpack the infamous DLC report and the future of lighting standards.   🔥 Highlights: The history of industry pushback against DLC certifications (from mafia skits to cease-and-desist letters). Devin’s hands-on approach: walking the factory floor, designing real solutions, and tackling heritage lighting retrofits. Why many manufacturers see DLC as interference rather than innovation. The bigger picture: global standards, sustainability, interoperability, and whether energy efficiency certifications are even relevant anymore. Anecdotes from the trenches—cheap imports, failing drivers, and the need for real accountability in lighting.   ⚡ This isn’t just another lighting chat—it’s a candid, fiery look at how the industry can move forward with creativity, collaboration, and common sense.   👉 Watch now to hear why Devin Wall might just be the mad scientist lighting needs.   Connect with Devin:   www.louversintl.com  Instagram - @Louversintl  Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/louversinternational  Twitter - @louversintl  YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/800LifesOk  LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/devin-wall-22856a15/     Sponsor: Louvers International, louversintl.com, @louversintl

In this, episode 3 of the finale series of Get a Grip on Lighting, Michael Colligan and Greg Ehrich sit down with Mark Baker of the Soft Lights Foundation to trace the journey from the early days of Starving for Darkness to the evolution of Restoring Darkness.   They revisit how the pandemic sparked the industry’s first serious conversations about dark skies, Jane Slade’s passionate leadership, and the challenges of keeping the movement alive. Mark Baker shares his personal story, the health impacts tied to LED lighting, and why glare and light pollution remain urgent issues for communities everywhere.   👉 From industry skepticism to advocacy, this episode highlights the fight to recognize light pollution as a true environmental and public health problem—and the role podcasts played in building awareness.   Connect with Mark:  www.softlights.org  Facebook:  Soft Lights Foundation - https://www.facebook.com/groups/softlights.org  Ban Blinding LEDs - https://www.facebook.com/groups/BanBlindingLEDs  Petition to Ban Blinding Headlights: https://www.change.org/p/u-s-dot-ban-blinding-headlights-and-save-lives    Sponsor: Keystone, keystonetech.com

In this episode, hosts Michael and Greg welcome Webster Marsh and Ron Kuszmar from the Lighting Controls Podcast. They reflect on the journey from a chance conversation in late 2021 to building a thriving show with over 120 episodes. ✨ Key Highlights: How Webster and Ron went from guest and co-host to paid podcasters. The evolution of lighting controls as a serious industry conversation. Education, collaboration, and breaking down silos across the lighting world. The challenges of proprietary systems, utilities’ influence, and the boom–bust cycle of lighting tech. This episode captures the growth of a podcast that helped reshape how the industry talks about controls—turning closed-door chatter into open, collaborative dialogue. Connect with Webster Marsh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/c-webster-marsh/    Connect with Ron Kuszmar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ron-kuszmar-7a8a3538/    Sponsor: Barron Lighting Group, barronltg.com

Michael and Greg sit down with Scott Griffin to reflect on the journey of creating and producing thousands of podcast episodes.Sponsor: Halco Lighting, halcolighting.com

Adam Chetakian, Co-Founder and Chief Growth Officer at Apprime Lighting, has over 30 years in the game. He, Michael and Greg address the dirty secret behind the LED retrofit world: fixtures that die young and end up in landfills. Adam’s here to flip the script with a patented, tool-less, replaceable light engine that saves time, money, and the planet 🌍. 💡 Topics covered: Why LED “efficiency” betrayed fixture longevity The rise of modular, sustainable lighting solutions How Apprime’s tech slashes install time from 10 minutes to 25 seconds The future of circular economy in lighting Why contractors need to “own the fixture location” again 🎯 Whether you're an ESCO, distributor, or sustainability engineer, this episode is your blueprint for reclaiming control and cutting waste. Plus, some spicy takes on Europe’s TM66 rating. 👉 Watch now and join the movement to make lighting smarter, longer-lasting, and landfill-free. #LightingRevolution #CircularEconomy #LEDRetrofit #Sustainability #GripLockSystems #GetAGripOnLighting #APPRIMELighting #DLCReform #LightingIndustry Connect with Adam:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/apprime-lighting  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@apprimelighting  Apprime Lighting: www.apprimelighting.com    Sponsor: Griplock Systems, griplocksytems.com

Michael Colligan and Greg Ehrich declare a full-blown crisis in the lighting industry’s “right to repair.” From inaccessible drivers screwed into joists to obsolete Cat5 control systems and $300 can lights that can't be fixed, the guys expose the absurdity of modern lighting design. Real-world stories from schools, churches, and health clubs reveal how LED upgrades have turned into long-term liabilities.   💡 Topics Covered: Why customers are buying double fixtures just to stock backups The nightmare of replacing drivers buried in ceilings The rise and fall of Cat5-based lighting controls How “lighting as a service” might actually make sense now The emotional toll of unrepairable lighting systems "You literally have to cut the ceiling out to fix the light." — Michael Colligan Sponsor: Barron Lighting Group, barronltg.com

[Note: This episode contains important visuals. It is recommended to watch the video.]  In this explosive episode of Get a Grip on Lighting (previously streamed live), industry lawyer David Radulescu joins Michael and Greg to dissect the legal and ethical challenges facing the DesignLights Consortium (DLC). What started as a podcast turned crusade now confronts the rebate gatekeeper head-on. 💥 What’s Inside:• Why DLC’s tax-exempt status may be on shaky ground • The Energy Star exit: is DLC next? • 370,000 listed products—but 15 manufacturers dominate 58% • Opaque vendor relationships, questionable governance, and Article 7 scrutiny • Radulescu’s neutral but razor-sharp legal analysis—30 slides, days of prep, and no punches pulled 📉 “The electrons aren’t worth the squeeze.” 📈 “Over 50% of LED revenue goes to certification vendors.” 📎 Watch this if you care about rebates, transparency, and the future of lighting standards. Connect with David: https://www.radip.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidradulescu/

In this electrifying episode of Get a Grip on Lighting, we sit down with Tom Kieffer of Service Lighting (aka LightBulbs.com)—a 40-year veteran who's still pushing boundaries and saving clients up to 85% on lighting costs. But this isn't just about retrofits and wattage. It's about honor, innovation, and rebellion.   💡 What’s Inside Tom’s take on why most lighting design is broken—and how to fix it The truth about wall packs (spoiler: “light pukers” 🚫) Why the lighting industry needs to grow a pair and say NO to bad fixtures A fiery debate on DLC, free fixture programs, and market fairness The rise of Starry Skies North and the fight against light pollution How NAILD is leading the charge on darkness restoration education Real talk on lighting distributors, contractors, and who really knows lighting   ⚡️ If you sell light bulbs, install fixtures, or care about the future of lighting—this one’s for you.   #LightingIndustry #DarkSky #DLC #LightingDesign #NAILD #GetAGripOnLighting #TomKieffer #LightBulbsDotCom #StarrySkies #LightingReform #PodcastConnect with Tom: lightbulbs.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomkieffer/ [email protected]   Sponsor: Satco, satco.com, @satco

Is the DLC a wolf in sheep's clothing? Michael and Greg lay it out. The live stream experienced some technical difficulties, so here it is in full.

🔥 Buckle up for a bold ride through the lighting industry! Mike & Greg give you a brief recap of the Nailed Convention, and challenge the DLC to display their transparency values by inviting them and D+R to speak up on the Get a Grip on Lighting Podcast this Friday.    Plus, you’ll get some classic Mike & Greg banter, including a wild donkey analogy that somehow makes perfect sense.   #LightingIndustry #LightingDistribution #TransparencyTalk #IndustryVoices #DLCdebate   Connect with Greg:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-ehrich-2b375a2/    Connect with Michael:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-colligan-64380016/

Alan Karen of Satco is the OG, the original gangster of lighting. With his 30-year journey in lighting, Alan brings wisdom, grit, and heart to the mic.   🔥 What’s inside: The evolution of lighting distribution and Satco’s game-changing portal Why relationships still matter in a tech-driven world The story behind the Guiding Light Award and the H Foundation’s fight against cancer (www.hfoundation.org) Real talk on lamp bans, tariffs, and the future of lighting legislation A passionate defense of the right to repair and the role of lighting distributors   Alan, Michael, and Greg tackle this episode with insight, humor, and inspiration.   💡 “We don’t dictate to the market—we supply it.” – Alan Karen    #LightingIndustry #Satco #AlanKaren #RightToRepair #LightingPodcast #GetAGripOnLighting #HFoundation #GuidingLightAward #LEDRevolution #LightingDistributors   Connect with Alan:  https://twitter.com/SATCOPRODUCTS  https://www.linkedin.com/in/alan-karen-02a16b8/     Sponsor: Satco, www.satco.com

In this episode, we sit down with Tom Butters—lighting educator, and Founder & Executive Director of The Lighting Agora—for a no-holds-barred conversation on the state of lighting education, the evolution of the industry, and what to expect at the Canada Light Expo, November 12-13 (canadalightexpo.com). From the value of in-person learning to the challenges of brand-driven training, Tom brings clarity, candor, and a touch of rebellion to the mic.   💡 Whether you're a seasoned lighting pro or just curious about the future of the industry, this episode delivers insight, honesty, and a few laughs along the way.   #LightingEducation #TomButters #CanadaLightExpo #LightingAgora #GetAGripOnLighting #Podcast   Connect with Tom:  Https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-butters-lc-20416551/  Https://lightingagora.com/  Https://www.nlb.org/    Sponsor: Barron Lighting Group, barronltg.com

In this episode of Get a Grip on Lighting, we welcome back Al Uszynski—founder of Inside Lighting (inside.lighting) and one of the most respected voices in lighting journalism—for a deep dive into the evolving landscape of the lighting industry.   📰 From the launch of the new Lumy Awards to the controversy surrounding DLC, Al shares candid insights into the role of journalism, the need for industry reform, and the importance of stakeholder engagement. This isn’t just a conversation—it’s a call to action.   💥 Topics covered: The creation and vision behind the Lumy Awards 🏆 Why journalism matters in lighting—and how Inside Lighting is changing the game The DLC debate: prescriptive rebates, transparency, and calls for a five-year moratorium Industry leadership, contested elections, and the future of IES How trade organizations can better serve their members    🔗 Learn more athttps://www.insidelighting.com🔗 Visithttps://www.naild.org   #LightingIndustry #InsideLighting #LumyAwards #DLC #NAILD #LightingPodcast #GetAGripOnLighting #AlUszynski #LightingJournalism #EnergyEfficiency #TradeOrganizations   Connect with Al:  Https://inside.lighting/  https://www.linkedin.com/company/inside-lighting/  Https://www.instagram.com/inside.lighting/  https://twitter.com/InsLighting  https://www.facebook.com/InsideLighting/     Sponsor: Halco, www.halcolighting.com,