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A masterclass on leadership, legacy, and succession. With Ron Solish (CEO) and Steve Sallen (CFO) of Maddin Hauser. --- STEVEN ("STEVE") D. SALLEN joined Maddin Hauser as a law clerk in 1983. He served as the firm's president and CEO for fifteen years and is currently the CFO. Steve earned his undergraduate degree from the University of Michigan and his law degree, cum laude, from the University of Detroit School of Law. There he served as Case and Comment Editor of the University of Detroit Law Review. Steve concentrates his practice in the areas of real estate law, environmental law, and corporate law. His clients include some of Michigan's most successful manufacturing firms, real estate developers, general contractors, and commercial real estate brokers. He also heads the firm's Environmental Law group and is co-chair of the Real Estate group. Read more about Steve Sallen --- RONALD (RON) A. SOLLISH, shareholder, is the firm president and CEO, and chairman of the Corporate and Employment practice groups. He specializes in employment, real estate, partnership, finance, corporate, and business law. A frequent speaker on legal topics, Ron has addressed such groups as the Michigan Chamber of Commerce, the Michigan Association of Certified Public Accountants, and American Society for Industrial Security. Ron is licensed to practice law in Michigan and is a member of the American Bar Association, State Bar of Michigan, and Oakland County Bar Association. Read more about Ron Sollish   Connect with Jon Dwoskin: Twitter: @jdwoskin Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.dwoskin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejondwoskinexperience/ Website: https://jondwoskin.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jondwoskin/ Email: [email protected] Get Jon's Book: The Think Big Movement: Grow your business big. Very Big! Connect with Steve Sallen and Ron Sollish: Steve Sallen: https://www.maddinhauser.com/people/steven-d-sallen  Ron Sollish: https://www.maddinhauser.com/people/ronald-a-sollish  Maddin Hauser: https://www.maddinhauser.com  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MaddinHauser  Twitter: https://twitter.com/MaddinHauserPC  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/maddin-hauser-roth-and-heller-pc  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@maddinhauserlaw  *E - explicit language may be used in this podcast.

3 Cybersecurity & Business Lessons from CEO Ephraim Ebstein of Fit Solutions: 1. Hiring is a security issue. A core values presentation filters out the wrong people — fast. Know who you're letting in. 2. IT should serve the business. If your IT team doesn't know where revenue comes from, you have a leadership problem. 3. Manage up. Don't wait to be asked. Deliver the right information proactively — to your team and your clients.   --- Ephraim Ebstein is the Founder and CEO of FIT Solutions, a managed IT and cybersecurity company he built with a focus on people, accountability, and real-world execution. With years of hands-on experience in IT and security, Ephraim helps organizations cut through noise, reduce risk, and build technology environments that actually support growth. He's passionate about leadership, standards, and using technology to create lasting impact.   Connect with Jon Dwoskin: Twitter: @jdwoskin Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.dwoskin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejondwoskinexperience/ Website: https://jondwoskin.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jondwoskin/ Email: [email protected] Get Jon's Book: The Think Big Movement: Grow your business big. Very Big! Connect with Ephraim Ebstein: Website: https://fitsolutions.biz/ X: https://x.com/Ephraim_Ebstein LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ephraim-ebstein-5a2a1a10 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ephraim.ebstein  *E - explicit language may be used in this podcast.

My massage therapist asked me what changed. I told her I'd just seen a shamanic medium. I'd known about Lori Lipten for almost 20 years before I finally booked a session. The day after my first one, she said my back felt like a kid's, no knots anywhere. I told her my dad had come through and apologized for something, and I let it go. On today's episode of Coffee with Jon, Lori Lipten talks about her journey to becoming, and being, a shamanic medium. 3 highlights: 1. Lori was on the treadmill when she felt an angel touch her forehead and say the name ""Thomas,"" a boy who'd passed away. She made one phone call to a woman she barely knew, and that call became the first reading she ever gave. She never set out to be a medium. It found her. 2. Her framework for intuition is "attune, align, allow." Drop into your heart, notice when you're contracting versus expanding, and let that be your signal before you react instead of respond. 3. Before she ever took a paying client, Lori spent 10 to 12 years quietly honing her gift in private. Nobody sees that part. They only see the moment it looks like it happened overnight. Lori said it best: figure out your gift, then ask, "What do you want me to do with it?"   Connect with Jon Dwoskin: Twitter: @jdwoskin Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.dwoskin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejondwoskinexperience/ Website: https://jondwoskin.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jondwoskin/ Email: [email protected] Get Jon's Book: The Think Big Movement: Grow your business big. Very Big! Connect with Lori Lipten: Website: https://lorilipten.com  *E - explicit language may be used in this podcast.

Here are 3 highlights from my talk with Travis D. Hahler - Sr. Director of Global Strategy and Transformation at Salesforce and founder of The Neurological Nomad. 1. Resistance isn't rebellion, it's biology. When people resist change, it's not defiance, it's neurology. Stop asking "how do I overcome resistant people." Start asking "what do they need." 2. The CRM problem is everywhere. People don't refuse new tools. They use them at the bare minimum while keeping the old way on the side as their real source of truth. That's silent resistance, not loud objection. 3. Cadence beats content. A short, consistent check-in on any change removes the ambiguity that gets filled by speculation. No rhythm means someone else writes the story for you. --- TRAVIS D. HAHLER transforms how Fortune 500 companies navigate change by revealing a startling truth: Resistance isnt rebellion—it's biology. As Senior Director of Global Strategy and Transformation at Salesforce, and Founder of The Neurological Nomad, Hahler brings an unprecedented fusion of neuroscience and business acumen to organizational transformation. His unique journey conducting EEG research in Denmark, studying neuropsychology at Harvard, earning an MBA, and leading change at Google, Salesforce, and others, makes him a unique transformation expert who can explain why your amygdala sabotages your strategic plan and why you can blame everything on your basal ganglia. Over fifteen years, Hahler has guided more than one hundred companies through successful transformations, earning him the nickname Resistance Fortune Teller for his uncanny ability to predict where change efforts will fail. His signature keynote, The Neuroscience of Change, has reached over 25,000 leaders across 150 global events, consistently delivering that aha moment when executives finally understand why 70 percent of transformations fail to achieve their goals. And, more importantly, how they can join the successful 30 percent. Rethink Resistance represents Hahler's continued mission to democratize neuroscience for business leaders. Helping them to remove ego and embrace neuroscience to lead transformational change. Hahler lives with his husband, Brian, son, Lachlan, and dog, Burton, while working toward a future where understanding neural wiring leads to putting people back at the center of change.   Connect with Jon Dwoskin: Twitter: @jdwoskin Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.dwoskin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejondwoskinexperience/ Website: https://jondwoskin.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jondwoskin/ Email: [email protected] Get Jon's Book: The Think Big Movement: Grow your business big. Very Big! Connect with Travis D. Hahler: Website: https://www.theneurologicalnomad.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theneurologicalnomad LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travisdhahler  *E - explicit language may be used in this podcast.

Mark Rampolla built ZICO, sold it to Coca-Cola, and bought it back. Here are 5 highlights from our talk: 1. It's an inside job. The difference between those who succeed and those who don't is whether they do the inner work. 2. Know your zone of genius. Double down on what you're great at and build people around you who cover the rest. 3. Become a feedback junkie. Ask after every meeting. Learn to love what you hear. 4. Check your energy before every week. Energy up, energy down, or neutral. That simple. 5. Write down the story you're telling yourself. That's where change begins. Websites: https://www.groundforcecapital.com/ https://markrampolla.co/ Connect with Jon Dwoskin: Twitter: @jdwoskin Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.dwoskin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejondwoskinexperience/ Website: https://jondwoskin.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jondwoskin/ Email: [email protected] Get Jon's Book: The Think Big Movement: Grow your business big. Very Big! Connect with Mark Rampolla: Websites: https://www.groundforcecapital.com  https://markrampolla.co  *E - explicit language may be used in this podcast.

3 takeaways from my talk with John Goldman - Founder of Rebel Health Alliance 1. You have more control over your health than you think. 2. Small changes build momentum. Momentum builds a better life. 3. Invest in your health today. Your future self will thank you Connect with Jon Dwoskin: Twitter: @jdwoskin Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.dwoskin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejondwoskinexperience/ Website: https://jondwoskin.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jondwoskin/ Email: [email protected] Get Jon's Book: The Think Big Movement: Grow your business big. Very Big! Connect with John Goldman: Website: https://rebelhealthalliance.io/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-m-goldman  *E - explicit language may be used in this podcast

3 takeaways from my talk with CEO Fabian Calvo - BoomRx: Keep going. Fabian hit $48M in revenue. Not fast. Not easy. But he kept going. Pick partners you like. When things get hard, you get closer, not distant. Take care of yourself first. Meditation. Fitness. Family. The oxygen mask goes on you before anyone else. --- Fabian Calvo is a longevity industry executive and pharmaceutical supply chain strategist who has built, scaled, and led multiple companies across the compounding pharmacy, API sourcing, and clinic fulfillment ecosystem. He currently serves as Interim CEO and Member of the Board at WellSync Rx, a longevity medicine and strategic sourcing company based in Los Angeles. Fabian is also Co-Founder of four interconnected ventures that span the pharmaceutical supply chain: Gatlan (2022) — A longevity medicine platform based in Los Angeles NuCare API (2023) — An active pharmaceutical ingredient sourcing company based in Orange County, California BoomRx (2024) — A pharmacy portal and technology platform for physician practices, based in Tampa, Florida ProRx Pharma (2024) — A 503B outsourcing facility based in Exton, Pennsylvania Together, these companies form an integrated infrastructure for longevity medicine from raw ingredient sourcing to compounding to clinic fulfillment — giving Fabian a rare end-to-end view of the pharmaceutical supply chain. His work extends into regulatory and policy engagement. Fabian has participated in direct discussions with FDA leadership, including meetings with Dr. Martin Makary, on issues ranging from peptide reclassification (the recent Category 2 to Category 1 transition) to the SAPIR initiative — the federal effort to reshore active pharmaceutical ingredient manufacturing to the United States. At BoomRx, Fabian is helping build what he calls "the only pharmacy portal a physician practice needs" — a technology platform that consolidates multi-pharmacy workflows into one system with flat-rate shipping to all 50 states, live tracking, access to 300+ medications (many with extended Beyond-Use Dates), and best-rate pricing. Outside of his operating roles, Fabian advises elite founders, executives, and high-net-worth individuals on longevity and performance optimization. He publishes Long Live, a weekly newsletter on the intersection of longevity, performance, and what he sees from inside the supply chain. He is based in Los Angeles County, California. Connect with Jon Dwoskin: Twitter: @jdwoskin Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.dwoskin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejondwoskinexperience/ Website: https://jondwoskin.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jondwoskin/ Email: [email protected] Get Jon's Book: The Think Big Movement: Grow your business big. Very Big! Connect with Fabian Calvo: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fabianjcalvo  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fabian-calvo-875633244  *E - explicit language may be used in this podcast.

Cara Lash left a coveted consulting job at PWC. No safety net. No guarantee. Just a belief that she was meant to build something. Here are three highlights from our Coffee with Jon conversation: 1. Do it scared. Don't wait until you're ready. You won't be. 2. Passion isn't enough. Be good at it too. When passion and talent align, that's the sweet spot. 3. Start every day with the thing you least want to do. What's the one task your dreading most? Do that first. The rest of the day gets easier. --- Cara's love for the outdoors started long before her career did. After college, she jumped into the fast-paced world of consulting, traveling week after week, but she quickly realized that climbing the traditional ladder wasn't the path for her and that she wanted to create something of her own. She launched a travel tech platform to help people plan and book road trips, gaining firsthand experience in building and growing a business. It was when she pivoted to the outdoor experience industry that everything clicked. Today, Cara brings NYC locals together outside the city, helping brands, communities, and companies turn a day outdoors into hassle-free, meaningful connections. Connect with Jon Dwoskin: Twitter: @jdwoskin Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.dwoskin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejondwoskinexperience/ Website: https://jondwoskin.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jondwoskin/ Email: [email protected] Get Jon's Book: The Think Big Movement: Grow your business big. Very Big! Connect with Cara Lash: Website https://www.caravantripplan.com  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caravantripplan  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caralash  *E - explicit language may be used in this podcast.

Finding a therapist shouldn't feel like a second job. But for millions of Americans, it does. Sandeep Acharya saw the broken system and built Octave Health to fix it. Here are three takeaway's from our Coffee with Jon conversation: 1. Solve the friction first. Therapists couldn't take insurance easily. Patients couldn't find who was available. Sandeep didn't pick one problem — he solved both. Remove the friction and people show up. 2. Simple is hard. Do it anyway. It took five years of data and testing to make their platform truly simple. Most businesses give up and add complexity. The best ones grind until it's easy. 3. Pain is a compass. A friend's tragedy — unable to find a therapist when he needed one most, is what launched his company.   --- Prior to co-founding Octave, Sandeep Acharya led strategy at One Medical for 5 years. In this role, he was responsible for launching & scaling several new services and oversaw the growth of its employer business to over 1,000 companies, while being a member of a senior leadership team that expanded the company to over sixty clinics in eight cities. Before One Medical, he spent his career as an investor, operator and consultant in the healthcare, retail, and technology sectors at Bain & Co, Bain Capital & Insight Venture Partners. Sandeep holds degrees in computer science & business from Wharton and Harvard Business School, where he was a Baker Scholar. Though Sandeep has fled the East Coast for California, he remains an avid (if suffering) New York Giants fan." Connect with Jon Dwoskin: Twitter: @jdwoskin Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.dwoskin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejondwoskinexperience/ Website: https://jondwoskin.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jondwoskin/ Email: [email protected] Get Jon's Book: The Think Big Movement: Grow your business big. Very Big! Connect with Sandeep Acharya: Website: https://www.findoctave.com    *E - explicit language may be used in this podcast.

What if one of the most important skills we can teach isn't academics—but curiosity, kindness, and how to get back to center? I sat down with Hamsa Yaqo and Paul Spiegelman, co-founders of Kintsugi Village, a unique early childhood learning community in Detroit focused on curiosity, creativity, life skills, and community. 3 Takeaways: 1. Curiosity is a superpower. The best learning starts with questions. 2. Life skills matter as much as academics. Kindness, communication, and emotional intelligence are foundational skills. 3. Everyone needs a calm corner. The ability to pause, reset, and recalibrate is a lifelong advantage. In a world moving faster than ever, getting back to center may be one of the most important skills we can develop. We dive into that and much more in my conversation with Hamsa and Paul.   --- Hamsa Yaqo is a purpose-driven business leader and co-founder of Kintsugi Village, a community-centered hub in Detroit focused on early childhood education, the arts, food, and connection. With a background spanning higher education, tech, and mission-driven organizations, she is passionate about building strong teams, thoughtful processes, and meaningful impact. Hamsa holds a degree in Mathematics from Wayne State University and an MBA from Walsh College. Outside of work, Hamsa loves cooking, playing Scrabble, exploring cities like a local, and spending time with her family. Paul Spiegelman is the co-founder of Kintsugi Village. He is also the founder of BerylHealth, The Beryl Institute, and the Small Giants Community. He is a New York Times best-selling author and has been honored with the Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year award. His thoughts have been featured in the Wall Street Journal, Forbes, and Inc. Magazine. Paul practiced law for two years prior to founding BerylHealth. He holds a bachelor's degree in history from UCLA and a law degree from Southwestern University. In his spare time, he enjoys spending time with family, playing tennis and traveling." Connect with Jon Dwoskin: Twitter: @jdwoskin Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.dwoskin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejondwoskinexperience/ Website: https://jondwoskin.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jondwoskin/ Email: [email protected] Get Jon's Book: The Think Big Movement: Grow your business big. Very Big! Connect with Hamsa and Paul: Website: www.kintsugivillage.org  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kintsugivillagedetroit/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kintsugi-village-detroit    *E - explicit language may be used in this podcast.

3 Takeaways from my conversation with Chris McShanag, CEO of Virtual Teammate: 1. Every org chart needs a VA today. Stop paying $100/hour talent to do $10/hour work. Free them up to do higher value work. 2. Clarity drives results — not geography. A VA in the Philippines or Latin America performs when expectations and outcomes are crystal clear. That's a leadership issue, not a location issue. 3. Start with one. Scale from there. Most clients add a VA once they see it work. Begin where the pain is greatest. --- Chris McShanag has helped more than 2,500 talented virtual professionals find their  place in organizations worldwide, supporting over 600 clients along the way. His mission is simple but bold: to reshape the virtual assistant industry by creating an experience that feels seamless, supportive, and genuinely valuable for both clients and assistants. Chris is passionate about building real partnerships. As he puts it, "The future of healthcare and business is virtual, scalable, and limitless." His drive to help clients succeed and streamline operations is setting fresh standards in the world of virtual staffing. Connect with Jon Dwoskin: Twitter: @jdwoskin Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.dwoskin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejondwoskinexperience/ Website: https://jondwoskin.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jondwoskin/ Email: [email protected] Get Jon's Book: The Think Big Movement: Grow your business big. Very Big! Connect with Chris McShanag: Website: www.virtualteammate.com  Instagram: www.instagram.com/virtual_teammate  LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/virtualteammate  Facebook: www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61560282482628    *E - explicit language may be used in this podcast.

3 Takeaways from my conversation with Garrett Gunderson, Wealth Liberation Expert: 1. Heal your relationship with money first. Scarcity mindset is inherited. Abundance is a choice. You can't build wealth while fighting the tool that creates it. 2. You are your greatest asset. Stop shrinking. Invest in yourself, your team, your coaches. No one ever saved their way to wealth. 3. Mentoring + coaching + systems + accountability = accelerated results. Pick one. Start today.   --- Garrett Gunderson has been jokingly called Money Jesus, not only because of the hair and beard, but because he has a rare gift for liberating people from the myths that quietly harm their relationship with money. For decades, he has helped entrepreneurs question the stories they were told about hustle, sacrifice, and delay, and replace them with something more honest and sustainable. Garrett is the author of ten books, including multiple Wall Street Journal bestsellers, with Killing Sacred Cows reaching number one and making the New York Times Best Sellers list. His work is about restoring clarity, freedom, and creating a life that actually feels worth living, one that you don't want to retire from. Oh, and to make money more fun and easy, he even filmed a comedy special you can find on Amazon Prime called The American Ream. Connect with Jon Dwoskin: Twitter: @jdwoskin Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.dwoskin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejondwoskinexperience/ Website: https://jondwoskin.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jondwoskin/ Email: [email protected] Get Jon's Book: The Think Big Movement: Grow your business big. Very Big! Connect with Garrett Gunderson: Website: www.garrettgunderson.com  YouTube: www.garrett.live   LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/garrett-gunderson-651359b3  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/garrettbgunderson    *E - explicit language may be used in this podcast.

3 Takeaways from my AI conversation with Michael Weinberger, CEO of Proactive Technology Management: 1. Fall in love with the problem, not the solution. Don't buy AI tools before you understand your pain points. Go slow to go fast. 2. AI is a force multiplier, not a replacement. Elevate your people. Move them from $10/hour work to $50/hour work. That's the real ROI. 3. Start meta-prompting today. Don't just ask AI questions — ask AI how to ask better questions. That's where the real power is.   --- For over 20 years, Michael Weinberger has helped small and mid-sized businesses transform technology into a growth engine. As a seasoned strategist and software architect, Michael specializes in designing and implementing custom solutions that address the unique challenges SMBs face—whether in legal, healthcare, finance, or operations. What sets him apart is the ability to combine deep technical expertise with business insight. Michael doesn't just build systems, he aligns technology with strategic objectives to deliver measurable results. From streamlining workflows to scaling operations, he focuses on outcomes that matter: efficiency, clarity, and growth. Michael's expertise includes: • 𝗔𝗜 & 𝗔𝘂𝘁𝗼𝗺𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 – Unlocking operational efficiency and market expansion through practical AI integration. • 𝗖𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗼𝗺 𝗦𝗼𝗳𝘁𝘄𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗗𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗹𝗼𝗽𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 – Architecting scalable, business-aligned solutions. • 𝗦𝗠𝗕 𝗚𝗿𝗼𝘄𝘁𝗵 𝗙𝗿𝗮𝗺𝗲𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸𝘀 – Leveraging EOS® and Traction to foster accountability, clarity, and execution. At Proactive Technology Management, he leads with a client-first approach grounded in ethical innovation and transparency. Michael's work consistently turns complex problems into simple, impactful digital solutions—earning the trust of long-standing clients and positioning me as a reliable partner in digital transformation.   Connect with Jon Dwoskin: Twitter: @jdwoskin Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.dwoskin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejondwoskinexperience/ Website: https://jondwoskin.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jondwoskin/ Email: [email protected] Get Jon's Book: The Think Big Movement: Grow your business big. Very Big! Connect with Michael Weinberger: Website: www.proactivemgmt.com LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/michael-j-weinberger    *E - explicit language may be used in this podcast.

Everyone is tired. But not everyone is resting. 3 takeaways from my conversation with CEO Justin Hai on stress, sleep, and performance: 1. Protect your sleep like it's your business. If you're not sleeping, you're not recovering, thinking clearly, or performing at your best. 2. Put the phone down. Every buzz keeps your body in stress mode. Step away → think better → respond smarter. 3. Small resets beat constant grind. A 15-minute walk without your phone can change your entire day. Most people don't need more time. They need better recovery. THINK BIG!   --- Justin Hai is a serial entrepreneur, product designer, and innovator whose career spans health, wellness, biotechnology, and skincare. He has co-founded multiple award-winning companies, including Alastin Skincare, GLO Pharmaceuticals, and Rebalance Health. Justin's interest in hormone health, especially the overlooked role of cortisol, began with a desire to understand how modern stress impacts the body. That search led to the founding of Rebalance Health, focused on science-backed solutions to help people reclaim their health. When his wife later faced a complex hormone-related condition that conventional medicine couldn't resolve, the mission became personal. Today, his work is fueled by a commitment to help others find clarity, calm, and joy. With a degree in Industrial Design from RISD and an MBA from Pepperdine, Justin blends creative vision with business strategy. He has contributed to NASA projects, presented cleantech to the Pentagon, and holds multiple U.S. patents and trademarks. His innovations have earned recognition from InStyle, Forbes, Oprah, NewBeauty, Best in Biz, and NASA. Through his ventures and now through his writing, Justin continues to challenge the status quo by building products and stories that help people feel better from the inside out. Connect with Jon Dwoskin: Twitter: @jdwoskin Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.dwoskin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejondwoskinexperience/ Website: https://jondwoskin.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jondwoskin/ Email: [email protected] Get Jon's Book: The Think Big Movement: Grow your business big. Very Big! Connect with Justin Hai: Website: www.rebalancehealth.com  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rebalancehealth/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Stress_Nation Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justin_a_hai/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinhai/    *E - explicit language may be used in this podcast.

3 Takeaways from my conversation with Marty Frankel Co-Chair, Financial Services & Real Property Litigation Group, Executive Committee Member, Maddin Hauser 1. Lawyers sell trust — not expertise. Competence is the baseline. What clients really need is someone on their team who owns their problem with urgency. 2. Find the issue behind the issue. Ask questions. Build rapport. What someone walks in with is rarely what's really keeping them up at night. 3. Delay gratification. Plan long. Reverse engineer from three years out. That's not just career advice — that's a life strategy.   --- MARTIN ("Marty") S. FRENKEL, shareholder and executive committee member, is a multidisciplinary problem solver who consistently delivers sound, pragmatic business counsel and instills in his clients the confidence that comes from knowing that he always has their back. Whether it is the end-to-end, compliance-to-courtroom representation and advocacy he provides mortgage, financial services, and construction companies or the myriad ways he helps clients from a wide range of other industries steer clear of risk and achieve their goals, Marty charts the course that gets his clients where they want to go. Co-Chair of Maddin Hauser's Financial Services and Real Property Litigation and Surety and Construction groups, Marty has established himself as one of Michigan's most accomplished and versatile attorneys. His ability to holistically address the full spectrum of day-to-day and long-term issues faced by small business owners and large institutions alike is why he is often retained to serve as their outside general counsel or as an adjunct to their in-house legal teams. Recognizing that the best attorney-client relationships are built on a foundation of both trust and collaboration, Marty works seamlessly with his clients to understand the problems behind the problems by actively listening to what they say, as well as what they don't. Marty focuses his practice on real estate and financial services risk management, litigation, and regulatory compliance, including matters involving mortgage, banking, construction, real estate development, landlord/tenant, and title-related issues. For mortgage industry clients, Marty brings a 360-degree perspective to his work, a product of his extensive participation in high-level mortgage regulatory compliance matters, the negotiation and drafting of core documentation and business agreements, and hundreds of loan-level mortgage litigation disputes. This full-spectrum experience allows him to serve his financial services clients efficiently, cost-effectively, and with minimized risk while navigating the myriad mortgage origination and servicing processes that are always subject to changing laws, regulations, and market conditions. While Marty possesses unmatched been-there, seen-that insights, he is acutely aware that past experience alone is no guarantee of future success. That is why he prioritizes agile, forward-looking thinking and stays ahead of the ever-evolving legal and economic landscapes in which his clients do business. Marty has forged close bonds with his clients and has earned the respect of his peers, who consistently recognize him for his professionalism and accomplishments. Among his expansive collection of accolades, Marty has been included on the list of the Best Lawyers in America multiple times and has been recognized as a Michigan Leading Lawyer in Real Estate Law: Commercial and Finance every year since 2016. He was named a "Go To" Lawyer in Construction Law by Michigan Lawyers Weekly in 2023 and 2025, and was also included in the magazine's 2022 class of Leaders in the Law, an honor awarded to accomplished individuals who set the standard through a commitment to excellence in the practice of law." Connect with Jon Dwoskin: Twitter: @jdwoskin Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.dwoskin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejondwoskinexperience/ Website: https://jondwoskin.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jondwoskin/ Email: [email protected] Get Jon's Book: The Think Big Movement: Grow your business big. Very Big! Connect with Martin Frenkel: Website: www.maddinhauser.com Web Profile: https://maddinhauser.com/people/martin-s-frenkel/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/martin-frenkel-a1b5aa8/   *E - explicit language may be used in this podcast.