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Todd Monken’s big questions: Jim Schwartz’s future and a murky Browns QB room
2026/02/04
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down the introductory press conference for new head coach Todd Monken and dive into the two biggest questions facing the Browns.
First, they tackle the uncertain future of defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz. After being passed over for the head coaching job, will he return?
They discuss the potential for an “explosive situation” if a partnership is forced and whether Monken is equipped to handle the dynamic. With Schwartz’s options limited to returning or retiring, the hosts debate if the Browns should let him go or hold him to his contract.
Then, the conversation shifts to the offense and the murky quarterback room Monken inherits.
The hosts explore the possibility of Monken fixing Deshaun Watson and salvaging the controversial trade, noting the coach’s intrigue with the talented QB. They also discuss the supreme confidence of Shedeur Sanders and how Monken’s tough, old-school coaching style will create a new dynamic and a potential two-man competition for the starting job this offseason.
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Should the Browns do whatever it takes to keep Jim Schwartz? Hey, Mary Kay!
2026/02/02
New Browns head coach Todd Monken is working on putting together his staff, but the biggest piece of the puzzle is still unknown.
Defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz and the Browns are in a bit of a standoff and that’s where Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start on a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.
Should the Browns hold firm on not letting Schwartz leave and convince him to come back or would they be better off letting him go and moving on?
They also discuss the quarterback situation and if Deshaun Watson really is a viable option for the Browns in 2026.
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What Todd Monken’s arrival means for Shedeur Sanders, Deshaun Watson and the Browns
2026/01/31
On a weekend edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start by discussing Twitter post that shook Berea -- new head coach Todd Monken's arrival and his enthusiastic greeting of quarterback Shedeur Sanders, reigniting the conversation about the team's future under center.
The crew analyzes the potential quarterback competition between Sanders and a healthy Deshaun Watson, exploring how Monken, a renowned quarterback whisperer, might unlock the best in either player.
Lance Reisland also joined the show. As a long-time admirer of Monken's work, Reisland provides analysis on his coaching philosophy, breaking down his flexible, player-focused schemes and why he's a great fit in Cleveland.
They discuss which offensive players stand to benefit the most from the new system and what the Browns' biggest offseason needs are, from the offensive line to skill positions.
Then Lance and Dan do a draft of snow day activities.
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Is Todd Monken the right hire? Making sense of the Browns’ choice
2026/01/30
On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe continue discussing the Browns' hiring of Todd Monken.
They tackle the mixed reactions from the fan base, with Mary Kay making a strong case for the hire. She contrasts Monken’s extensive, proven track record of offensive success in Baltimore and Tampa Bay with the high-risk nature of hiring a younger, less experienced candidate.
The conversation also explores the significant fallout from the coaching change, including the uncertain future of defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz and how star player Myles Garrett might react to his potential departure. They discuss how Monken must navigate these delicate situations to unite the team.
Finally, as a Pro Football Hall of Fame voter, Mary Kay provides a rare inside look into the controversial voting process that led to Bill Belichick not being a first-ballot inductee. She explains the complexities of the system, her disappointment in the outcome, and why she believes changes are necessary for the future.
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Why did the Browns choose Todd Monken?
2026/01/29
The Browns hired Todd Monken as their 19th head coach, and Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are here to break it all down on the latest Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They discuss their initial reactions to a hire that wasn't at the top of many lists but was a name Mary Kay insisted was in the running until the very end.
They dive into Monken's impressive resume, his old-school, no-nonsense coaching style and why the Browns may have opted for his experience over younger, unproven candidates.
They also get into the fallout from passing on defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz. Will Schwartz leave the team, and how would the locker room react?
They debate whether Monken is the right man to handle that potential crisis and the larger task of rebuilding the offense around an uncertain quarterback situation. They also discuss the pressure on GM Andrew Berry
to get this right and supply Monken with the talent he needs to succeed.
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Where do things stand in the Browns coaching search after Nate Scheelhaase's interview?
2026/01/27
On this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe try to keep up with everything happening in the Browns' head coaching search.
Jaguars offensive coordinator Grant Udinski pulled himself from consideration on the same day the Browns flew to Los Angeles to meet with Rams pass game coordinator Nate Scheelhaase.
Then the Buffalo Bills requested an interview with Scheelhaase while his lengthy session with the Browns was ongoing.
And, by the time you hear this, maybe everything has been resolved.
Either way, on our Monday podcast, Mary Kay and Dan check in and try to make sense of things as the coaching search nears the finish line.
Listen as they talk through the latest in the Browns’ quest to find a new top man for their organization.
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The Browns’ coaching search is narrowing and getting complicated
2026/01/23
On this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe navigate the increasingly chaotic Browns coaching search.
With Jesse Minter out, they discuss the remaining candidates and the complex scenarios ahead.
Could Jim Schwartz get the job by default, or will he issue an ultimatum to the front office?
They explore the potential ripple effects of Schwartz's future, including the impact on star player Myles Garrett. They also analyze the standing of other candidates like Todd Monken, Grant Udinski and Nathan Scheelhaase.
Listen as they talk through the latest in the Browns’ quest to find a new top man for their organization.
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Browns coaching search reset: Young innovator or proven veteran?
2026/01/22
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reset the Browns' ongoing head coaching search.
With Mike McDaniel backing out to take the Chargers' OC job and Tommy Rees joining Kevin Stefanski in Atlanta, the interview schedule is shifting.
They discuss the upcoming second interviews with candidates like Jesse Minter, Grant Udinski and Nate Scheelhaase.
The central debate revolves around the pros and cons of hiring a young, offensive-minded innovator versus a more experienced veteran coach like Jim Schwartz or Todd Monken.
They analyze the relatively thin resumes of the younger candidates and stress the importance of building a strong, veteran support staff around a first-time head coach.
The conversation also explores Kevin Stefanski's new situation in Atlanta, as he gets the band back together with former Browns coaches. They highlight how his success, much like the future of the Browns' next coach, will ultimately depend on finding a solution at the all-important quarterback position.
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What Mike McDaniel’s exit means for the Browns + Baker Mayfield vs. Kevin Stefanski
2026/01/21
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe react to a chaotic night in the Browns' head coaching search.
The big news is that Mike McDaniel has withdrawn his name from consideration, just a day before his scheduled in-person interview. The crew discusses the massive implications of this decision, including how it complicates the Browns' need to satisfy the Rooney Rule and what it says about the appeal of the Cleveland job, especially given the uncertainty at
quarterback.
They also touch on other candidates like Todd Monken, Jim Schwartz and the young offensive minds still in the running.
Then, the podcast takes a detour to discuss some drama involving a former Browns quarterback and a former Browns coach.
Baker Mayfield took to social media to call out Kevin Stefanski, who is now the head coach in Atlanta. The hosts revisit the fractured relationship between the two from the 2021 season, referencing Mary Kay's reporting from that time, and discuss the new rivalry brewing in the NFC South.
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Browns coaching search update: Sean McDermott, second interviews and what’s next
2026/01/19
On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start with the surprising news of Sean McDermott’s firing from the Buffalo Bills and what it means for the Browns' head coaching search.
As the Browns enter Week 3 of their search and begin second interviews, a proven winner is now on the market. Mary Kay explains why the Browns will likely at least kick the tires on McDermott.
The conversation also highlights the biggest challenge facing the Browns: their murky quarterback situation.
They discuss how the uncertainty surrounding Shedeur Sanders and Deshaun Watson could make top candidates hesitant.
They also talk about how the now-vacant Bills job, with a superstar quarterback in Josh Allen, instantly becomes one of the most attractive openings.
Even without a stable quarterback situation, is the Browns’ talented defense enough of a selling point to overcome the questions on offense.
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Is Jim Schwartz the clear frontrunner in the Browns’ coaching search?
2026/01/16
On a Friday episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk Browns defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz getting the first second interview in the team’s coaching search.
They discuss why he's a popular choice with players and fans, representing the path of least resistance by keeping the team's dominant defense intact. They explore what his promotion would mean for the team's identity and the necessary overhaul on the offensive side of the ball.
They also cover the other dominoes, including Todd Monken getting a second interview and the uncertain future of offensive coordinator Tommy Rees.
Will the Browns look to build on their defensive strength and find a quarterback they can win with, or will another candidate emerge from their ongoing interviews?
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Browns coaching search reset: Life after John Harbaugh and the candidates who make sense
2026/01/16
On Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe react to John Harbaugh taking the head coaching job with the Giants. They discuss why the Giants were a more attractive destination and why the Browns never really got a chance to make their pitch.
Then, they reset the Browns' coaching search and take a deep dive into some of the top candidates.
They discuss the pros and cons of hiring a defensive-minded coach like Rams DC Chris Shula and how his 3-4 scheme would fit with the Browns' current personnel.
They also look at the young, up-and-coming offensive candidates, including Jaguars OC Grant Udinski and Bengals offensive coordinator Dan Pitcher, and wonder if the Browns' uncertain quarterback situation will be a deterrent.
Finally, they discuss internal candidates like Tommy Rees and what the future might hold for the staff as the search continues.
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What the Browns’ QB strategy looks like after Dante Moore’s decision
2026/01/15
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dive into the news of quarterback Dante
Moore returning to Oregon and its impact on the Browns.
They discuss how a thinning quarterback draft class complicates the Browns' plans at the No. 6 pick and potentially increases the likelihood of Shedeur Sanders competing for the starting job in 2026.
They talk about the ripple effects across the draft, exploring potential strategies for Andrew Berry, from trading back to targeting a sleeper prospect like Garrett Nussmeier.
They also debate the necessity for the Browns to continue taking swings at the quarterback position, whether through the draft or by acquiring another veteran to compete with Sanders, Dillon Gabriel and Deshaun
Watson.
Later, the podcast shifts to the latest updates on the Browns' coaching search. Mary Kay provides insights into the team's interview schedule, including candidates like Jesse Minter and the plan to request an interview with Chris Shula.
They break down how the broader coaching carousel, featuring names like John Harbaugh and Mike McDaniel, could create a domino effect and influence the Browns' final decision.
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A changing AFC North and a critical moment for the Browns
2026/01/14
A seismic shift has rocked the AFC North. With Mike Tomlin stepping down as the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers after 19 years, the division's landscape is changing dramatically.
Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe kick off the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by breaking down the monumental news and what it means for the Browns. They discuss the changing of the guard with both Tomlin and John Harbaugh gone from their long-tenured posts, creating a massive opportunity for the Browns to seize the moment and return to respectability in a now wide-open division.
Then, Lance Reisland joins the show for a deep dive into the Browns' coaching search. Lance provides detailed scouting reports on some of the top candidates, both well-known and under-the-radar.
He talks with Dan about the potential fits of Cincinnati's Dan Pitcher, Jacksonville's young offensive coordinator Grant Udinski, the Rams' Nathan Scheelhaase and Miami's Mike McDaniel.
They weigh the risks and rewards of hiring a young, brilliant mind versus a more established coach and discuss what it takes to succeed as a head coach in the NFL.
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Inside the Browns’ crowded coaching search: McDaniel, Schwartz and the dominoes ahead
2026/01/13
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe get into the latest on the Browns’ head coaching search.
The big news is Mike McDaniel's interview, and they break down the Browns' long-standing admiration for his "offensive wizardry" and brilliant football mind.
They explore the crowded and eclectic field of candidates, from rising offensive stars like the Rams' Nathan Nathan Scheelhaase and the very young Jaguars' OC, Grant Udinski, to established defensive coordinators like their own Jim Schwartz.
They get into the future of Schwartz -- Will he stay as DC if he doesn't get the top job, and how would his departure impact Myles Garrett?
Answering questions from Football Insider subscribers, they tackle the challenges young coaches face when leaping to the head coach role, the viability of a defensive-minded leader in today's NFL and where former coach Kevin Stefanski might land.
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grizz22 2026/01/20
My Go To
Love this show. There are other Browns podcasts out there and this one works best for me. Good balance, good timing, my source for all things Browns w...
homelessdan 2026/01/15
Two steps forward, always a jump back
I listen to this show all the time… sometimes I really love it. Other times I think, “what the heck are you talking about.” Their insistence that th...
ShinarJSB 2025/12/08
Unbelievable
Wyt people are so funny, Shadeur had this performance after two weeks of practice. And every time you give him praise you qualify it by what he did wr...
Cigarsnbeer 2025/10/29
We need to wake up a bit.
I’ve listened to this podcast for years and have generally been a big fan. I sometimes disagree with Mary Kay however I respect her as a reporter and ...
ric mcdic 2025/09/11
Improve the Quality
The Browns may not have much quality, but the podcast should have quality. Just do the podcast Monday morning in a proper sound quality setting than p...
Screamin Armenian 2024/09/16
Feedback
I listen to your podcast regularly and have for years. Thank you. I also do media training. The gratuitous laughing during points made when those poi...
LeebeeJammin 2025/06/18
Should be a two person show.
If this were either Mary Kay or Ashley, it would be fantastic, but I’d like to have a dollar for every time Ashley just regurgitated what Mary Kay had...
wheelingsteel 2025/04/29
It’s pronounced “Oregon”
I’ll remove this one-star when Mary Kay learns how to pronounce the state. So rude.
Nick_Farrior51 2024/09/06
Thumbs up
I’m a fan of an opposing team but I enjoy listening to coverage of rivals just as much as I enjoy following my own team. This is my favorite Browns po...
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