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2018/01/22
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2026/01/20
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Comp and Coffee is a podcast by Payscale where we explore the art and science of compensation management. Grab a cup of coffee, settle in, and join us for conversations on pay and performance—packed with insights, practical tips, and strategies to help you stay ahead in a rapidly evolving world of work.
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What's in and out for HR and compensation in 2026: Predictions, opportunities, and challenges
2026/01/20
HR and compensation leaders are facing a new set of challenges and opportunities in 2026. From new pay transparency laws to AI-driven decision-making, the landscape is shifting fast. This episode unpacks what is in and what is out for the year ahead and explores the trends that will define the future of work.
Email: [email protected] for listener questions and suggestions.
Payscale End-of-Year report and HR Predictions: https://www.payscale.com/featured-content/end-of-year-top-jobs-report?utm_medium=social&utm_source=linkedin&utm_campaign=cnt_awr_eoyreport_wv&utm_content=eoyreport_pst
Compensation translator: https://www.payscale.com/research-and-insights/your-compensation-translator?utm_medium=social&utm_source=linkedin&utm_campaign=cnt_awr_comptranslator-asset_wv&utm_content=compensation-translator-asset
2026 Pay increase report – https://www.payscale.com/featured-content/2026-salary-increases-preview?utm_medium=social&utm_source=linkedin&utm_campaign=cnt_awr_payincreasereport_wv&utm_content=payincreasereport_pst
Lost in translation: How HR, finance, legal, and leadership can finally speak the same language about pay
2026/01/05
Everyone agrees that pay matters. What they do not agree on is what it means.
HR talks about fairness and equity.Finance talks about cost and ROI.Legal talks about compliance and defensibility.Leaders talk about performance and business outcomes.
These perspectives are all correct, yet they often conflict. When they collide, compensation decisions lose clarity, employees feel confused, and managers deliver mixed messages—leaving HR as the translator.
In this episode, Ruth Thomas is joined by Hannah Beaver, Director of Compensation at Trilogy Health Services, and Kim O’Grady, Compensation Supervisor at Designer Brands. Together, they break down how organizations can turn pay into a shared language that builds trust, alignment, and credibility from the C-suite to the front line.
Episode resources:
Email: [email protected] for listener questions and suggestions.
Compensation translator: https://www.payscale.com/research-and-insights/your-compensation-translator?utm_medium=social&utm_source=linkedin&utm_campaign=cnt_awr_comptranslator-asset_wv&utm_content=compensation-translator-asset
Pay transparency again? What you actually need to know for 2026
2025/11/13
Another conversation about pay transparency? We know what you are thinking, haven’t we already covered this?
But the truth is, 2025 changed everything. From a wave of new state laws in the U.S. to Canada and the EU rewriting the playbook, pay transparency has moved from policy talk to daily reality. With 2026 around the corner, the stakes are only getting higher.
In this episode of Comp and Coffee, host Ruth Thomas sits down with Vicky Peakman, Director at Fair Pay Partners, and Lulu Seikaly, Senior Corporate Attorney at Payscale, to unpack the year’s biggest developments and what is coming next.
Episode resources:
2025 – 2026 Salary budget survey - https://www.payscale.com/featured-content/salary-budget-survey-sbs?utm_medium=social&utm_source=linkedin&utm_campaign=cnt_awr_payforperformance-blog_wv&utm_content=payforperformance-blog_sia
Your voice deserves to be heard! Participate in this year’s compensation best practices survey - https://www.research.net/r/CBPR26Coffee
Email: [email protected] for listener questions and suggestions.
AI overload? What HR Tech 2025 got right (and wrong)
2025/11/07
At HR Tech 2025, AI stole the spotlight, but not everyone was convinced. Amid the hype and bold claims, HR and compensation professionals were asking tougher questions: What’s actually working? What’s just marketing? And how can AI really make their jobs easier?
In this episode of Comp and Coffee, host Ruth Thomas sits down with Peh Keong Teh, Chief Product Officer at Payscale, Olivia Sedler, Product Manager at Payscale, and Mark Feffer, contributing analyst at 3Sixty Insights and editor of WorkforceAI.News and HCM Technology Report. Together, they cut through the noise from HR Tech, unpack what vendors got right and wrong, and discuss where AI can and cannot move the needle for HR and comp leaders today.
Episode Resources:
Pay trends report - https://www.payscale.com/featured-content/pay-trends-report
How AI is reshaping your workforce - https://www.payscale.com/compensation-trends/how-ai-is-reshaping-your-workforce
AI 101 - https://www.payscale.com/compensation-trends/ai-101-the-hr-and-compensation-starter-p[…]gn=brd_ai-blog-engagement_wv&utm_content=data_blg_ai-101_pst
AI Webinar - https://www.payscale.com/research-and-insights/how-ai-is-reshaping-pay-decisions-on-d[…]ement_wv&utm_content=data_wbn-o_how-ai-is-reshaping-comp_pst
Email: [email protected] for listener questions and suggestions
The most important pay conversations you're not having
2025/11/03
In a year of tight budgets and increasing expectations of pay transparency, pay conversations are more critical than ever. Skipping, delaying, or diluting these conversations can erode trust and leave employees disengaged. In this episode of Comp and Coffee, host Ruth Thomas is joined by Payscale leaders to explore the “compensation telephone game,” share how HR trains managers to deliver clear messages, and discuss strategies for keeping the right talent engaged in a volatile environment.
Guests:
Lexi Clarke – Chief People Officer, Payscale
Lauren Hein – Head of Total Rewards, Payscale
Lauren Cole – Senior Director, Services & Customer Education
Resources:
2025 – 2026 Salary budget survey - https://www.payscale.com/featured-content/salary-budget-survey-sbs?utm_medium=social&utm_source=linkedin&utm_campaign=cnt_awr_payforperformance-blog_wv&utm_content=payforperformance-blog_sia
Your voice deserves to be heard! Participate in this year’s compensation best practices survey - https://www.research.net/r/CBPR26Coffee
Your pay communications playbook - https://www.payscale.com/compensation-trends/your-pay-communications-playbook-building-trust-through-compensation-transparency?utm_medium=social&utm_source=linkedin&utm_campaign=cnt_awr_payforperformance-blog_wv&utm_content=payforperformance-blog_sia
Email: [email protected] for listener questions and suggestions
Pay transparency in practice: Making pay a universal language
2025/09/29
Pay transparency laws are forcing the conversation—but alignment is what makes it stick.
When it comes to pay transparency, HR, Legal, and leadership often speak in different “dialects.” HR frames it around equity and structure, Legal around compliance and risk, and leadership around outcomes and cost. The challenge? These perspectives rarely align into a shared understanding that employees can trust.
In this episode of Comp and Coffee, we’re bringing together three leading voices to explore how organizations can move beyond compliance and turn transparency into a universal language of trust and alignment:
Ruth Thomas – Chief Compensation Strategist and pay equity thought leader and advisor, helping organizations build consistent, bias-free pay practices.
Lulu Seikaly – Corporate attorney guiding employers through the legal realities of pay transparency laws.
Elaina Van Kirk, PHR – Principal Consultant at Exude Human Capital, advising organizations on compensation, performance, and inclusive culture strategies.
Together, they’ll uncover how HR, Finance, and Legal can stop speaking past each other—and start building a pay narrative that employees not only understand but believe.
Salary budgets are shifting — here’s how to stay ahead
2025/09/18
Salary budgets are tightening — but strategy doesn’t have to.
Payscale’s 10th Annual Salary Budget Survey reveals that planned pay increases for 2026 are dipping slightly from 2025, with economic uncertainty replacing competition for talent as the top driver of budget changes. But even in a cooling pay environment, HR and comp pros have a window to realign strategy before Q4 — if they have the right data in hand.
In this episode of Comp and Coffee, host Ruth Thomas sits down with Amy Stewart, Payscale’s Principal of Research & Insights, and Kathryn Gombos, HR & Total Rewards Leader and Founder of Gombos Group. Together, they unpack the latest salary budget trends, explore what’s behind the shifts, and share how organizations can use these insights to plan smarter, communicate with confidence, and navigate survey season without burning out.
2025–2026 Payscale Salary Budget Survey - https://www.payscale.com/featured-content/salary-budget-survey-sbs
Email: [email protected] for listener questions and suggestions
Fair pay means nothing if no one believes it
2025/08/27
Fair pay means nothing if no one believes it. That’s the wake-up call from Payscale’s latest Fair Pay Impact Report. Despite rising wages, transparency laws, and improved market conditions, employees don’t believe they’re being paid fairly—and it’s costing businesses their best people.
In this episode of Comp and Coffee, host Ruth Thomas is joined by Lexi Clarke and Kate Peter—three women in the C-suite who are putting fair pay back at the top of the agenda. They unpack what the data tells us, what it feels like as leaders, and what needs to happen next.
Episode Resources:
Fair Pay Impact Report - https://www.payscale.com/research-and-insights/fair-pay-impact
Email [email protected] for listener questions and suggestions
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Email: [email protected]
Website: https://www.payscale.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/payscale
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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/payscale
Chapters
(00:00) Commitment to Fair Pay and Leadership Introductions
(02:52) The Importance of Staying Loud About Pay Equity
(05:06) Challenges and Realities of Fair Pay Perception
(13:14) Economic Pressure and Trends Impacting Compensation Trust
(17:06) Defining and Practicing Real Transparency
(24:02) Personal Experiences Shaping Pay Advocacy
(31:01) Rebuilding Trust Through Honest Conversation
Turning pay into a business driver: A CHRO + CFO conversation
2025/08/08
When the CFO asks why… will you panic or present your case with confidence?
In this episode of Comp and Coffee, we go behind the scenes with Lexi Clarke and Philip Watson to uncover how HR and Finance can stop speaking past each other—and start building stronger pay strategies together. Whether you're preparing for budget season or defending comp decisions in the boardroom, this episode gives you the language, data, and mindset you need to show that compensation isn’t just a line item—it’s a lever for business success.
The pay crystal ball: predicting the future with Pearl Meyer + Payscale
2025/07/10
Compensation isn’t just an HR function—it’s a core business strategy. In this episode of Comp and Coffee, we look into the pay crystal ball with Rebecca Toman of Pearl Meyer, Ruth Thomas, Chief Compensation Strategist at Payscale, and Sara Hillenmeyer, Payscale’s Director of Data Science. Together, they explore how trusted data, AI, and a forward-thinking approach to comp strategy can help organizations not just keep up—but lead. If you care about performance, retention, equity, or executive pay, this episode is your blueprint for aligning comp strategy with long-term business success.
Closing the Confidence Gap: Pay Strategy Challenges in 2025
2025/06/20
What happens when your pay strategy sparks more questions than confidence—and your best people start walking? In this episode, we bring in the experts to tackle the hard truths behind tough pay conversations and how to rebuild trust before it’s too late.
Episode resources:
https://www.payscale.com/featured-content/cbpr
Email [email protected] for listener questions and suggestions
Compensation History: A Walk Through the Past and Future of Pay
2025/06/13
Compensation has come a long way—from handwritten ledgers and dusty binders to AI-powered insights and real-time salary data. But what does the past teach us about where we’re headed? Join us for a nostalgia-packed, future-forward journey through the history of comp, featuring expert reflections from WorldatWork, and predictions from the people shaping the next era of pay.
113: Gender Pay Gap Report: Facts revealed
2025/05/01
What's the state of the gender pay gap in 2025?
In this episode Ruth Thomas discusses Payscale's 2025 Gender Pay Gap Report with Amy Stewart, Payscale's principal content strategist and author of the report.
Together, they explore the controlled and uncontrolled pay gaps, the impact of pay transparency, and the various systemic factors contributing to the gender pay gap.
Gain insights into why pay disparities persist and what organizations can do to address these inequalities.
Key Highlights
Discussion on the difference between controlled and uncontrolled pay gaps and their current figures.
Examination of how pay transparency legislation is affecting gender pay gaps across different states in the U.S.
Insights into the systemic issues and historical context driving the gender pay gap, including the role of motherhood.
Analysis of specific data showing pay disparities for women of color and in various industries.
Recommendations for organizations on measures to close the gender pay gap.
Quotes
"Pay transparency legislation is showing promise in closing pay gaps, though the impact is gradual." – Amy Stewart
"The gender pay gap remains at 83 cents on the dollar for women, highlighting persistent barriers in the workforce." – Ruth Thomas
Resources
2025 Gender Pay Gap Report: https://www.payscale.com/research-and-insights/gender-pay-gap/
112: Give your salary data strategy a glow up
2025/04/29
With the median company now using three salary data sources—and four or more for larger organizations—it’s clear that more data is the norm. But more doesn’t always mean better. Are you truly getting the most out of your investment in compensation data? Or just adding complexity without clarity?
In this episode, we break down what an effective compensation benchmarking strategy really looks like—and how to use multiple data sources strategically, not just simultaneously.
Resources:
2025 Compensation Best Practices Report
Quick Guide - Aggregate salary data strengthens job pricing confidence
What's the price of free salary data?
Why salary surveys are so darn popular
111: Leading through the gap: Women, pay equity & the path to the
C-suite
2025/04/16
Why has the gender pay gap stalled, and what does it take for women to break into leadership? In this episode of Comp & Coffee, Ruth Thomas sits down with Payscale’s Chief People Officer, Lexi Clarke, and Chief Customer Officer, Kate Peter, to explore the latest findings from the 2025 Gender Pay Gap Report. They discuss the challenges women face in leadership, the role of pay transparency, and what businesses can do to close the gap. Grab your coffee and join us for this important conversation!
Key Highlights• Discussion of the persistent gender pay gap and the role of pay transparency in addressing this issue.• Insights from Lexi and Kate on navigating leadership roles as women and overcoming challenges in male-dominated industries.• Analysis of factors contributing to the stalling of pay gap improvements since 2022, with a focus on systemic issues and political influences.• Examination of the motherhood penalty and its impact on women's career trajectories.• The importance of having a "personal board of directors" and being authentic in leadership roles.
Quotes• "I want to show her what strong looks like. I want to be messy in front of her and show her that you can lead authentically." – Kate Peter• "You can't unsee the data once you have it, and then you want to act on it." – Ruth Thomas• "Being authentic is my way of making sure I'm doing my best work." – Lexi Clarke
ReferencesPayscale's 2025 Gender Pay Gap Report
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Tomibunny 2019/05/21
Great Content!
I love this podcast! I’m fairly new to Compensation and have learned so much from listening.
RLDavenport 2019/03/26
Great Info
Awesome way to stay up to date on HR trends!
C4714 2019/03/12
Comp + Coffee
Great way to learn more and stay in touch with Comp practices! Thank you, Payfactors, for putting this together!
CTalbert48 2019/03/05
Very insightful!
An invaluable resource! Looking forward to additional content!
carrotpea 2019/03/05
Great podcast!
Very specific and excellent information. Appreciate it!
CompCat19 2019/03/05
Upbeat comp conversations
This podcast on employee compensation issues is interesting and enjoyable to listen to. The vibe is positive, fun and lively! Keep it up!
CaitlynMary 2019/03/05
Unique and Useful
I’m really enjoying this podcast. I’m late to the game and have just recently started listening, so I’ve gone back and listened to many of the old epi...
Robb A. H. 2019/03/05
Great Insights on Compensation!
As someone whose role includes compensation analysis, Comp and Coffee is an amazing resource. Unlike most other compensation resources which are dry a...
abbzgirl 2019/03/05
Awesome Resource
As an up and coming compensation professional these podcasts are a great resource to listen in on new compensation information, as well as get another...
learndevelopgrow 2019/03/05
Manager Must Listen
Great tips and information and how to manage direct reports and keep the team engaged! Teaches the importante of knowing your employee!
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