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Dealcast: The M&A Podcast

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ION Analytics
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2018/01/29
Latest episode
2026/10/07
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33 min.
Release period
16 days

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Dealcast: The M&A Podcast Weekly podcast from the Mergermarket editorial team covering M&A, ECM and activism presented by Mergermarket

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A look at the state of cross-border dealmaking in 2026 – McDermott Will & Schulte’s Sam Snider
2026/10/07
With factors like fast-developing AI, global conflicts, and ever-changing geopolitics affecting every part of the globe, how has international dealmaking been impacted? And what are the actual logistics of getting a deal over the line across two or more legal and regulatory systems, with potentially different cultural expectations? Sam Snider, an Atlanta-based partner focused on cross-border M&A at McDermott Will & Schulte, and Justin Niessner, associate editor of the Asian Venture Capital Journal based in Hong Kong, discuss international dealmaking between the US and other parts of the world, with a focus on Asia and Africa. The episode delves into the actual logistics of dealmaking across borders, like whether the given country only recognizes wet ink signatures over e-signatures, knowing the local exchange control restrictions, and considering whether a local citizen is required on the board. The two also discuss why getting familiar with local idiosyncrasies and approaching cross-border deals with humility should be standard. The discussion dives into topics such as how demographics, like a young population and rising standards of living, are attracting business and investment in emerging markets across the world. However, at the same time, global political tensions have made some countries more resistant to foreign investment compared to previous years.
When AI valuations meet reality – OMMAX’s Sinan Erhan
2026/10/02
AI implementation and due diligence has drastically shifted in the last two years. M&A processes may have simply asked if a company used AI two years ago, but now due diligence processes in dealmaking go much deeper. According to Sinan Erhan, a partner and head of UK at OMMAX, commercial diligence in dealmaking has shifted to AI-specific diligence. Erhan joins Mergermarket's executive editor, Lucinda Guthrie, to discuss the disconnect between AI valuations and the reality assessed through the diligence process. The two delve into what makes a company’s AI usage truly valuable. For instance, whether a company is using AI at the disparate, individual level or whether it is an integral part of the workflow. It is also important to assess whether the company has a defensible moat for their AI services through IP or other practices or if they are simply integrating publicly available agents like Claude or ChatGPT, and whether having proprietary data is enough when it may still have to be cleaned and sorted before applying an algorithm. And although AI may be freeing up hours, can a company explain how they are now optimizing the newly available time? Beyond what makes a company’s AI story strong in reality, Erhan discusses how firms are using AI to make their research more efficient, assess potential M&A targets, and why that process still requires the human touch. He explains why juniors at firms, and even students, may need to be trained on how to make the right judgement calls on research AI presents to them, as the near future will likely lead to standardization of AI-specific diligence in the dealmaking process.
Merger arbitrage, megacap deals, and the complexity premium – Davidson Kempner’s Suzy Gibbons and Michael Chiaramonte
2026/08/25
In the last couple of years there has been an increase in megacap deals with global exposure. However, despite the growing number of large deals, they have longer timelines and geopolitical factors that make these transactions more complex. One example of the increased complexity is the jump in foreign investment reviews on megadeals. During 2005-2020, only 11% of megadeals were subject to foreign investment reviews, but from 2021 to 1H26, 40% of megadeals were subject to foreign investment reviews. Davidson Kempner’s Suzy Gibbons, partner and head of research, and Michael Chiaramonte, partner and deputy head of merger arbitrage, join Mergermarket’s global regulatory editor, Reuben Miller, to discuss their new white paper, Merger Arbitrage: Opportunity in Regulatory Complexity. The conversation delves into questions like how does complexity create opportunities for investors, how has the change in US administration altered deal activity, how do differing national priorities and security measures play into dealmaking, and why there is “complexity premium"?
Proof, process, and price: A look at the new standards for sponsor-backed dealmaking in the wake of AI – Investec’s Kate Gribbon
2026/07/20
While sponsor-related deal volume from the exit perspective is at EUR 132bn so far this year, nearly double the volume in the first half of 2025, deal counts are only up 12%. Deal momentum is picking up, but it still can be difficult to get a deal over the line in the current environment, according to Kate Gribbon, Investec’s head of financial sponsor coverage. The effects of SaaSpocalypse or SaaSmageddon are still lingering and dealmakers need to have a strong offensive and defensive strategy when it comes to AI. Diligence also needs to come in at an increasingly early stage in the auction process, according to Gribbon, and relationship-building and trust are core to completing transactions. In this episode of Dealcast, Gribbon joins John West, Mergermarket’s global commentary editor, to discuss her recent report: The New Rules of Private Equity M&A. The two discuss the three pillars of getting a deal done: proof, process, and price. The episode delves into how to curate the buyer pool early-on, how to weigh the benefits of getting DPI for LPs quickly or holding onto an asset for the right reasons, and why it’s not realistic to wait for “perfect” market conditions.
‘Scale, simplicity, strategy’ drive corporate dominance in record 2026 M&A run – JPMorgan’s Anu Aiyengar
2026/07/13
“This level of uncertainty has allowed boardrooms to rise above what is happening in the market,” Global Chair of Investment Banking at JPMorgan Anu Aiyengar says. Rather than being paralysed by geopolitical turmoil, executives have acknowledged they are playing on a constantly changing pitch and doubled down on long-term thinking to simplify their corporate footprints while building growth and resilience, Aiyengar says. That’s writ large in a record-breaking first half for global M&A, with volume of USD 3.16tn (up 44% year-on-year) – and 78% of that haul involving strategic acquirors. In this episode of Dealcast, Aiyengar joins John West, Mergermarket’s Global Commentary Editor, to unpack the deal dynamics behind 1H26’s astonishing run and pitching forward to what the rest of 2026 has in store. Predicting the year will topple 2021 as the most active of all time, Aiyengar provides insight on AI ROI and stock market concentration, the valuation premium afforded to larger companies, private equity exit overhangs and how to execute realisations, and unprecedented “direct engagement” by White House officials in key M&A transactions. When it comes to corporates opting to embrace audacity, “it’s not scale for scale’s sake; it’s not simplicity for simplicity’s sake – it first needs to chin the bar of being strategic,” Aiyengar argues.
Why GP consolidation is on the rise in Asia
2026/06/17
“GPs are being run more like the businesses that they acquire,” said Justin Niessner, associate editor of the Asian Venture Capital Journal. Consolidation among general partners is on the rise globally. Last year, BlackRock acquired HPS Investment Partners. Before that, the firm also acquired Global Infrastructure Partners in 2024. Asia is primed for M&A among GP firms, partly due to the prevalence of founder-led firms in Asia and the need for a succession plan. In this episode of Dealcast, Niessner joins Julie-Anna Needham to discuss the consolidation of GPs in Asia and why GPs and LPs may, or may not, find further integration attractive. The episode dives into what GPs need to make a transaction successful and to make LPs comfortable, where it is happening in the market, and how the mega-sizing of firms may actually lead to the rise of more independent ones.
The rise of alternative private credit in Europe – NorthWall Capital’s Alex Garnier, with Rachel Lewis
2026/06/08
“There's no question that in some parts of the market, leverage has stretched significantly, and that's a real issue for some of those portfolios that we see out there,” said Alex Garnier, founding partner at NorthWall Capital. In this episode Garnier joins Rachel Lewis, Mergermarket’s co-head of news, to discuss the growth of specialist credit in Europe. NorthWall is an alternative private credit lender that specializes in financing situational complexity. In this Dealcast, listeners get a look inside NorthWall’s strategy, which employs a different approach to provide different returns compared to traditional private direct lending. But what makes a situation complex? This episode discusses factors like market conditions, a complicated carveout, or a tight transaction timeline. Garnier and Lewis also tackle the current uncertainty in the market which has led banks and direct lenders to retreat and how that presents opportunities to be selective with underserved segments.
How to get deals through antitrust review in the current environment – Fried Frank’s Kathy O’Neill, with Serafina Smith
2026/05/18
Despite rumors of political lobbying creeping into antitrust, “it’s a really good time for dealmaking here in the US.” That’s according to Kathy O’Neill, a partner in Fried Frank’s antitrust and competition department and former senior government official with 16 years of experience in the US Department of Justice (DOJ) antitrust division. According to O’Neill, early and proactive interactions with the US antitrust agencies, the DOJ and Federal Trade Commission (FTC), can lead to smoother antitrust reviews. In her experience, constructive engagement on the merits has even led to the clearance of deals that were likely second request candidates. In this episode of Dealcast, O’Neill joins Mergermarket’s senior US regulatory reporter Serafina Smith to discuss best practices to get deals through antitrust review during the second Trump administration. This episode also addresses the agencies’ return to accepting merger remedies—especially structural relief—and the uptick of standalone enforcement by state attorneys general.
UK public M&A rides scale wave as clouds obscure macro outlook – White & Case’s Patrick Sarch, with John West
2026/05/05
While deal volumes reach significant highs in the UK, the numbers are largely being driven by big deals with expensive price tags. But these big-ticket transactions may not be the tide that lifts all boats. The lower-to-middle market segment in particular is seeing more muted deal activity. So why the surge of large-scale deals while the mid-market flounders? In this episode of Dealcast, White & Case partner and head of the firm's UK Public M&A practice Patrick Sarch joins Mergermarket’s global commentary editor John West to discuss what’s happening under the surface with the UK’s M&A landscape. Transformational deals are certainly skewing the overall M&A haul, public and private volume together arriving at GBP 128bn year-to-date, of which just 25 deals account for GBP 110bn, according to Mergermarket data. In public M&A, three deals – Schroders/Nuveen, Intertek/EQT, and Beazley/Zurich Insurance Group – account for 90% of volume. Smaller which deals have faced difficulties in the UK have had less spectacular progresss amid sponsor exit headaches, the fallout from “SaaSmageddon” and inflation pressures. This episode explores: why buyers and sellers in the middle market are failing to see eye to eye on pricing, which particular deals are driving up the numbers, how the stagnating buyout class from 2020/2021 is impacting activity, and how the Iran war is threatening further inflationary risks on dealmaking. Further insights will be discussed at Mergermarket’s UK M&A Forum on 23 June in London, where White & Case is lead sponsor alongside KPMG.
A tale of two markets: an update on Europe’s divergent M&A and IPO fortunes
2026/04/27
In this week’s Dealcast, Mergermarket’s head of global ECM, Samuel Kerr, joins John West, Mergermarket’s global commentary editor, to discuss how both M&A and ECM, particularly IPOs, are faring in Europe so far this year. M&A on the continent has been off to a strong start with 1Q deal volumes, reaching around EUR 330bn, up 40% year over year. And while general equity capital markets are booming, IPOs, have stalled in reaction to the Iran war. In this episode, Kerr and West explore the factors supporting M&A and hindering IPOs amidst severe geopolitical disruption. The two discuss which companies have made headlines, how sponsor exits factor into lagging IPO activity, how performances on the aftermarket have fared in Europe and comparatively in the US, and finally, when we could expect to see a rebound in listings. All this and more in this week’s Dealcast.
Global dislocation sparks opportunities for investors in Asia – Morgan Stanley’s Pamela Fung, with Justin Niessner
2026/04/08
“We can see every risk or dislocation as an opportunity.”  Although fundraising, exits, and investment have slowed, this is how Pamela Fung, a managing director and partner on Morgan Stanley's Private Equity Solutions team, sees the current state of private equity investment in Asia. Perceived risk has increased in the region in recent years amid China’s regulatory reset, tariffs, geopolitical tensions, and now war in the Middle East.  In this episode of Dealcast, Fung joins Justin Niessner, the associate editor of the Asian Venture Capital Journal, to discuss where opportunity lies in the region. From deep innovation happening in areas like Chinese AI and robotics to underpenetrated industries in countries where many national economies show potential for “leapfrog” growth.   This episode explores: why GPs need to be hands-on with Asian investments, how policy initiatives and talent pools in countries like India are encouraging for investors, and how Morgan Stanley’s research aims to demystify the region.
SEC goes ‘back to basics’ with capital markets focus – Willkie Farr & Gallagher partner Edward Best, with Troy Hooper
2026/03/30
The SEC is somewhat unsurprisingly shifting “back to basics” under the Trump 2.0 administration, according to Edward Best, a partner at Willkie Farr & Gallagher on the corporate and financial services team and co-chair of the capital markets practice. During the Biden presidency, the agency focused on technical violations and retrieved billions of dollars in settlements, whereas the current leadership is focusing more on protecting investors and making capital markets more efficient, Best argues. In this episode of Dealcast, Best joins Mergermarket’s co-head of Americas ECM Troy Hooper, to discuss how this shift in agenda is impacting capital markets. They discuss how the SEC is trying to simplify IPO processes and why it’s considering moving away from quarterly to semi-annual reporting for public companies. The episode explores what kinds of deals are doing well, from follow-on offerings to IPOs. It looks at the shift away from startups to more established companies with well-founded financials. It also delves into the companies and industries that are perhaps less flashy, but are drawing increasing IPO interest, like construction companies, retail businesses, and widget-makers. With questions addressed like, which companies could be listing this year, why the market has seen a resurgence of SPACs over the last twelve months, and how volatility is impacting investor decision making, this episode is not one to miss.
Eurazeo co-CEOs bullish on Europe’s ‘hidden champions’ – Christophe Bavière and William Kadouch-Chassaing, with Lucinda Guthrie
2026/03/18
“A land of opportunity” full of “hidden champions” across strategic sectors. That’s how Eurazeo co-CEOs William Kadouch-Chassaing and Christophe Bavière class Europe, as the Paris-listed sponsor eyes deployment opportunities from energy transition and defence through to tech-enabled services and healthcare. In this week’s episode of Dealcast, the co-CEOs engage in a wide-ranging discussion with Mergermarket executive editor Lucinda Guthrie, painting a dynamic picture of a continent decisively embracing a pro-competitiveness agenda, particularly at the European Union (EU) level. Amid efforts to unlock insurance and pension fund cash for investment in GPs, Bavière and Kadouch-Chassaing run the rule on how the EU is also building an AI sandbox and creating conditions for scale-ups to remain in Europe, creating a strong primary buyout pipeline. With EUR 39bn in assets under management, Eurazeo’s co-CEOs lift the hood on how to pitch LPs on investment across Europe’s strategic pillars, explore the firm’s approach to evergreen capital and reveal their approach to attracting the continent’s best entrepreneurs. Given Europeans are sitting on EUR 35tn in savings, Bavière and Kadouch-Chassaing believe the opportunity to deploy to build new European champions is massive, with the EU’s focus on sovereignty a key card to play in a fractured geopolitical environment.
A bad vintage – what is happening with the 2020/2021 PE-backed buyout class in Europe?
2026/03/13
As 2026 kicks off, many GPs are beginning to assess exits for assets they purchased at peak valuation and with cheap debt in the 2020/2021 period. Sponsor entrances for that period were just shy of EUR 300bn, representing the busiest year ever for M&A. Rachel Lewis, Mergermarket’s co-head of news in Europe, has compiled a data report looking at the situation with this vintage class now that typical hold periods are coming to an end. Lewis joins Dealcast host Julie-Anna Needham to discuss how sponsors are attempting to realize liquidity, with around two-thirds of assets from that time still unrealized. This episode explores why conditions were so good in 2020/2021 and why the market hasn’t recovered from a subsequent dip in 2022. It looks into which sectors are doing well, like industrials and chemicals, and why investors are more “risk off” when it comes to software assets. They also discuss how successful exits have taken shape and the methods investors are using, including specialty deal terms, to bridge the valuation gap. This Dealcast answers questions such as: Why aren’t dual track processes as popular as they were expected to be at the start of year? Which particular deals stand out? How are geopolitics are impacting market conditions? And can LPs forgive a bad vintage?
How to make a boatload of money for investors while changing the world – Morgan Stanley’s Seema Hingorani, with Lucinda Guthrie
2026/03/06
Seema Hingorani, managing director and member of the Operating Committee at Morgan Stanley Investment Management (MSIM) talks to Lucinda Guthrie, executive editor at Mergermarket in this episode of Dealcast marking International Women’s Day. Investing “where nobody’s looking” opens up the prospect of making a “boatload of money”, and when this means allocating to diverse teams allocators are changing the world as they do this, Hingorani argues. Hingorani reflects on her own storied journey as an asset allocator from hedge fund entrepreneurship, through to her tenure until 2014 as CIO of New York City Retirement Systems, which had assets of USD 160bn to her current role at Morgan Stanley Investment Management. Struck by the lack of female talent within the industry, Hingorani noted the major opportunity cost not only for women who could build outstanding careers but also for investors lacking a range of perspectives for how to put their money to work. This observation led her to found Girls Who Invest in 2015, an institution that continues to build awareness of career pathways in the investment world and now counts 4,000 alumni across 200 universities. From talent development to retention and investor returns to public service, this episode is a fascinating insight into a major Wall Street player at the top of her game, who has created a movement that is attracting and training top female talent into the finance industry.

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