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This President Says Tradition Shouldn’t Feel Like Regulation
2026/10/20
Melik Khoury is the rare college president whose essay about higher ed went viral. He argued that while college leaders and professors tell themselves their mission is about students, the governance structures and incentives instead serve its workforce. On this episode, Jeff and Michael talk with Khoury about his work transforming the institution he leads, Unity Environmental University. And they hear the challenges he faced in a sector where people often assume that tradition is regulation. This episode is made with support from Ascendium Education Group.
Chapters0:00 - Intro2:00 - A Turnaround Story at Unity4:42 - Colleges Are Designed to Serve Employees, Not StudentsTKTK - What Sparked a Viral Essay About College Structures9:03 - How Unity Changed Its Model13:57 - Can Other Colleges Easily Follow Unity’s Example?16:20 - When to Stop an Experiment That Isn’t Working19:17 - Higher Ed Is At a Crossroads21:58 - How Will AI Change Higher Ed?26:40 - When Tradition Seems Like Regulation32:30 - Leaders Are Unprepared for Change34:40 - Colleges Need Bold Action37:15 - Presidents Should Use Their Skills As Educators to Sell Change40:40 - The Best College Leaders Are Leaning In On AI43:56 - Wrap-Up
Relevant Links:“The Lie at the Center of Higher Education,” by Melik Khoury on Substack.
“The Library Card Fallacy,” by Melik Khoury on Substack.
“We Outgrew the Butterfly. Now We Are Building an Octopus,” by Melik Khoury on Substack.
“Reimagining the Academy: Unity Environmental University on Breaking the Higher Ed Mold,” in AcOps Magazine.
New Formula for Success: Location, Location, Location
2026/10/13
A donor recently gave $3 billion to Carnegie Mellon University, in part to build a new campus in Florida. It’s just the latest example of colleges staking out new territory far from their main campuses. Jeff and Michael give their analysis of the trend, as they reflect on a range of recent developments in higher education. Other topics this episode include the enrollment crisis at Syracuse University, a report out of Cornell on the purpose of the university, and how colleges can balance academic rigor and student success. This episode is made with support from Ascendium Education Group.
Chapters0:00 - Intro1:56 - What Should Students Still Have to Work Through?6:39 - Balancing Mastery Learning and AI9:55 - Knowing When to Bring In AI10:49 - Rethinking Assessment12:12 - A Case Study on Northeastern’s Co-Op Program18:57 - Geography’s Increasingly Role In Higher Ed26:03 - Colleges Face New ‘Enterprise Risks’30:34 - Sponsor Break31:17 - Colleges Look to Clarify Their Purpose27:31 - Do Colleges Really Prepare Students for Jobs?35:26 - Judgement Requires Knowledge38:14 - Moving ‘Beyond Silos’41:33 - Making Pathways Dependable43:51 - Wrap-Up
Relevant Links“Northeastern University: A New Model for Higher Education?,” Harvard Business School case study.
“Why some universities are gobbling up campuses all over the place,” by Michael Horn in The Boston Globe.
“After Missing Its Enrollment Goal, Syracuse is Questioning Everything,” in The Chronicle of Higher Education.
“MIT’s Ad Hoc Committee on AI Use in Teaching, Learning, and Research Training Report,” by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
“The State of Higher Education 2026,” by Jeff Selingo.
“The Future of the American University,” a report from Cornell University.
Reporters Roundtable: Colleges Must Face Hard Truths
2026/09/29
For this season’s roundtable with leading higher ed reporters, Jeff and Michael focused around a key question: What are insiders at colleges missing about the changing public perception of the sector? Our guests — Hilary Burns of The Boston Globe and Jay Caspian Kang of The New Yorker — both offered a sobering critique that might surprise some college leaders. The reporters also wondered whether the traditional business model could hold up to mounting financial pressures. This episode is made with support from Ascendium Education Group.
Chapters0:00 - Introduction2:19 - What Insiders Miss About the Moment in Higher Ed5:25 - Higher Ed Stories That Spark the Most Feedback11:18 - Will College Continue to Be Worth It?14:20 - Are Co-ops a Fad or a Lasting Trend?17:53 - A ‘Flashing Red Light’ for Higher Ed21:04 - ‘These Towns Would Be Really Boring’22:12 - The State of Higher Ed in New England24:06 - The Continuing Lure of College38.12 - What’s Coming for Higher Ed?31:00 - A Looming Reckoning for Boston Colleges?32:56 - What’s Happening With International Students?34:09 - How Research Cuts Will Impact Colleges34:53 - Is the Era of Colleges for Exploration and Ideas Over?
Relevant Links:College Town newsletter, from The Boston Globe.
“The Reason Dozens of Mass. Colleges Could Close (Hint: It's Not Trump),” by Hilary Burns, in The Boston Globe.
“The Despair of the Professor in the Age of AI,” by Jay Caspian Kang in The New Yorker.
“Higher Ed Leaders Fear International Students Will Stop Coming Amid Research Cuts,” by Hilary Burns, in The Boston Globe.
“Will A.I. Make College Obsolete? / Eight Predictions,” by Jay Caspian Kang, in The New Yorker
Live from Google: AI Is About People, Not Just Tech
2026/09/22
Universities can build all the AI infrastructure they want, but if faculty aren't on board, none of it lands in the classroom. Recent surveys make clear what many academic leaders already sense but rarely say out loud: there's a real and widening divide between faculty skepticism and administrative impatience on AI. The question isn't who's right. It's how you close the gap. In this episode, Jeff and Michael explore this topic with Pradeep Khosla (Chancellor, University of California, San Diego), Sonya Christian (Chancellor, California Community College System), and James Frazee (VP and CIO, San Diego State University). This episode is made with support from Google.
Chapters0:00 - Episode Trailer2:20 - Intro3:36 - Why Are Students Both Using, and Booing AI?6:10 - How Should College Leaders Talk About AI?10:05 - Is Inconsistency in AI Policy a Feature or a Bug?12:52 - Using Data to Drive Faculty Discussions on AI14:33 - Invest in People, Not Just Tools16:33 - Helping Faculty Feel Safe to Try AI20:24 - Can Colleges Afford AI In Times of Budget Crisis?23:26 - Encouraging All Disciplines to Try AI26:30 - Do Professors Trust Administrators on AI? 30:14 - Sponsor Break30:44 - AI’s Impact on the Value of the Degree34:48 - How is AI Really Impacting the Job Market?38:08 - The Future of Assessment42:38 - Does Traditional Faculty Governance Work for AI?45:46 - What Professors Do That AI Can’t46:41 - When Industry Moves Faster Than Education49:12 - The Importance of Faculty Development in AI52:15 - Closing Thoughts on AI at Colleges
Relevant Links“AI Is Routine for College Students, Despite Campus Limits,” Lumina | Gallup.
AI in Action video series at California State University System.
“Cal State students widely use AI tools, but mistrust results and fear job impact,” in EdSource.
Live from Google NYC: AI, Now What?
2026/09/15
Higher ed has spent four years managing AI through policies, restrictions, and isolated pilots. That approach bought time, but is time running out? Students are caught in a patchwork of incoherent expectations, and the labor market is shifting faster than the curriculum. In this episode featuring Andrea Goldsmith (President, Stony Brook University), Klara Jelinkova (VP and CIO, Harvard University), and Sandra Loughlin (Chief Learning Scientist, EPAM Systems), Jeff and Michael dig into what colleges can do to move from fragmented experimentation to a coherent, campus-wide AI strategy that preserves the right level of friction for students. This episode is made with support from Google for Education.
Chapters0:00 - Intro4:33 - Should Colleges Forge More Coherent AI Policies?9:29 - What Are the Cost and Benefits of the Patchwork Approach to AI?12:06 - A Case for a Coherent AI Strategy at Colleges15:33 - A Case Against Standardization in AI18:08 - How Can College Leaders Measure AI Progress?20:46 - The Importance of Stopping Some AI Pilots20:24 - How to Make Decisions When AI Changes So Rapidly23:59 - Sponsor Break24:29 - Should Colleges Build, Buy, or Partner on AI27:54 - Should Undergrads Learn AI From Day 1?31:41 - What Research Shows About AI and Learning34:12 - Convincing Students to Build Human Skills38:49 - Do Selective Colleges Need to Change?41:24 - How Can Colleges Show They Teach Durable Skills?43:50 - Is Higher Ed Ready to Fully Assess Learning?46:26 - How Will Colleges Deal With the Costs of AI?48:26 - AI Could Help Some Colleges Leapfrog Others50:50 - Colleges That Get AI Right Will …52:15 - Closing Thoughts on AI at Colleges
Relevant Links“Why College Could Matter More than Ever in the AI Era,” by Michael Horn.
Colleges Face New Pressures to Define Themselves
2026/09/08
We’re kicking off our tenth season of Future U. And as a new school year gets underway, Jeff and Michael reflect on a slew of pressing issues facing higher ed. Forget the idea that every college has to be comprehensive. The new challenge for every college will be deciding what to offer and how to sell their value to increasingly skeptical students and parents. And college leaders must also contend with new directives from the Education Department, what to do about AI, a growing loneliness crisis on campus, and more. This episode is made with support from Ascendium Education Group.
Chapters0:00 - Intro2:17 - Four Tests Colleges Should Have for Offering a Degree8:16 - The Challenge of Measuring Student Outcomes10:33 - Facing the Realities of the One Big Beautiful Bill13:00 - Is Coherence in AI Policy a Bug or a Feature?18:10 - MIT’s ‘Clarion Call’ About AI19:51 - Cheating Is Not the Problem21:02 - Is College Still Worth It?24:30 - College Is More Than Just Classes27:47 - Unpacking the Linda McMahon Letter29:50 - Colleges Try to Be Clearer About Price30:54 - Can AI Reduce Administrative Costs?32:16 - But Aren’t Students Still Clamoring to Go to College?35:31 - Is Dual Enrollment the Answer?38:41 - A Growing Student Loneliness Crisis40:26 - Will the University of California Bring Back the SAT?41:41 - Previewing Future Episodes
Relevant Links:“Leading Faculty in an AI Era,” by Jeff Selingo.
“From Programs to Payoff,” by Jeff Selingo.
“The Value of Live in a World of Abundant AI,” by Michael Horn on Substack.
“For Those Who Think Earnings Premium Accountability Started With OBBB,” by Phil Hill in OnEdTech.
“AI can now credibly complete most undergraduate assignments, MIT warns,” in The Washington Post.
“McMahon’s ‘National Call to Action’ Draws Measured Response From Higher Education,” in US News and World Report.
“UC Expedites Timeline for Determining Whether to Restore Testing Requirement,” in Inside Higher Ed.
“Even College Students Have Stopped Hanging Out,” in The Atlantic.
A Playbook for College Programs in Prisons
2026/08/04
We’ve been wondering how prison education programs have grown since the reinstatement of Pell grants for incarcerated learners a couple of years ago. So we sent our producer Jeff Young to learn more. It turns out colleges wanting to set up programs face complicated logistics and cultural challenges. To help, several states have recently set up statewide consortiums to help. On this episode we hear from the director of a new program in Minnesota building a playbook for colleges hoping to serve incarcerated students. This episode is made with support from Ascendium Education Group.
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
2:06 - A New Statewide Coalition
3:08 - How Financial Aid Rules Changed In 2023
5:27 - Prison Education Programs Need a Range of Resources
6:40 - Have College Prison Programs Expanded In Recent Years?
7:28 - Colleges Don’t Know Where to Start With Prison Programs
8:32 - What Is the Model for Minnesota’s New Prison Education Consortium?
10:40 - What Professors Need to Know About Teaching in Prison
12:24 - A Guidebook for Prison Education Programs
13:50 - A Student’s Perspective on Higher Ed in Prison
20:40 - The Importance of Learning While in Prison
23:15 - How a Prison Program Changed a Student’s Outlook
24:48 - A Student’s Advice for Professors Teaching in Prison
26:05 - Sponsor Break
26:24 - Online v. In-Person Prison Education Programs
29:29 - When Students Take Ownership of Prison Education Programs
32:17 - Cultural Factors of Setting Up Programs in Prison
33:47 - Technology Needed for Prison Education Programs
35:55 - A Student’s Perspective on Edtech in Prison
39:42 - What’s the Policy Outlook for Prison Education?
41:52 - An Argument for Non-Credit Programs in Prisons
44:51 - What’s the Future for Prison Education?
48:46 - Improving Re-entry Support
Relevant Links
“Reinstating Pell Grants in Prisons Moves Slowly After 26-Year Ban,” in Inside Higher Ed.
“State Coalitions Emerge as Key Infrastructure for Higher Education in Prison,” in Open Campus.
“Advancing Opportunities for Higher Learning: An Evaluation of Minnesota's New Higher Education in Prison Programs,” by the U of Minnesota’s Center for Urban & Regional Affairs.
Check out our previous episodes on the topic: “‘College Unbound’ from the Traditional Model” from 2024 and “College in Prison” from 2022.
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Season 9 Wrap-Up: Why Mission Matters More Than Ever
2026/06/16
It’s a time of change in higher education. Jeff and Michael look back on what they learned over the course of this ninth season of Future U in a one-on-one discussion. They recap key moments and share their favorite episodes. And one theme keeps emerging: “it’s all about institutional mission.”
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
1:08 - Many of Today’s Challenges Were Predicted 10 Years Ago
3:51 - Why Mission Is Key
4:56 - A ‘Ghost Town Campus’
12:35 - Big Deficits at Colleges
13:47 - The Fire Sale on MBAs
17:05 - How to Restore Trust in Higher Ed
19:17 - The Many Software Vulnerabilities for Colleges
24:29 - How to Design the AI University
26:52 - Jeff’s Favorite Episode of Season 9
30:58 - Michael’s Favorite Episode of Season 9
33:11 - Thanks to the Podcast Team
Relevant Links:
“Season 9 Annual Listener Survey” - Help us prepare for next season
“2026: The seismic shifts for transforming the future of higher education,” by Jeff Selingo, in The Chronicle of Higher Education
“Sonoma State University is in crisis. Can a new president save it,” in The San Francisco Chronicle.
“What happens when students let an economist pick their college?,” in Marketplace.
“Harvard’s FAS Is Running a $365 Million Structural Deficit. The Problems Started Well Before Trump,” in The Harvard Crimson.
“There is a Fire Sale on MBAs,” in The Wall Street Journal.
“Report of the Committee on Trust in Higher Education,” by Yale University.
“Designing the AI University,” by Jeff Selingo.
“Leading Faculty in an AI Era,” by Jeff Selingo.
"The Lie at the Center of Higher Education," by Melik Peter Khoury.
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Athletics Departments Have Become ‘Shadow Universities’
2026/06/03
The college athletics arms race has created a complex financing puzzle for many institutions. That has led athletics departments to become a kind of ‘shadow university’ within their campuses, with their own systems and processes. And university leaders need to pay closer attention. For this episode, Jeff and Michael talk with Karen Weaver, an expert on the finances behind college athletics. Do colleges need a whole new board structure for sports?
Chapters
0:00 - Introduction
1:35 - Why All College Leaders Should Care About College Athletics
4:14 - Introducing Our Guest, Karen Weaver
5:12 - What Are University Presidents and Board Members Missing About College Sports?
6:38 - How is the Transfer Portal Impacting Graduation Rates?
8:26 - Do Athletics Align With College Mission Statements?
9:51 - What Washington Should Do to Regulate College Sports
11:50 - What If College Sports Lost Tax-Exempt Status?
13:23 - How Women’s Sports and Olympic Sports Fit In?
16:20 - Do NCAA Classifications Work Anymore?
20:22 - Who Defines Success for College Sports?
20:53 - Is Athletics Worth It As a ‘Front Porch’ of the College?
22:08 - How Should College Athletics Be Reformed?
25:36 - The Growth of Club Sports
29:18 - Do We Know the ROI of College Athletics?
34:00 - Getting Beyond Football and Basketball
37:05 - Connecting Athletics to Work-Integrated Learning
40:05 - Why Are People ‘All In’ on College Athletics
40:59 - How Injuries Play a Role
42:48 - The Connection Between Research and Athletic Prestige
45:07 - Is a Whole New Governance Structure Needed for Athletics?
46:05 - Lightning Round with Karen Weaver
Relevant Links:
“Four quick thoughts on the Protect College Sports Act: aka a college sports bill you should actually pay attention to,” by Matt Brown in his Extra Points newsletter.
“Sport Finance: Where the Money Comes From and Where the Money Goes,” by Karen Weaver.
“Trustees and Presidents: A Podcast for University Leaders,” by Karen Weaver
“Understanding College Athletics: What Campus Leaders Need to Know About College Sports,” by Karen Weaver
“The Future of Elite Youth Sports Is Here—and It’s a Mess,” in The Wall Street Journal.
“Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World,” by David Epstein.
Higher Ed 101: Inside the Process of Closing a College
2026/05/19
Closing down a college turns out to be a big job. For this episode, Jeff and Michael talk with a specialist on the complex and emotional process, Doug Moore. He shares all the things that college presidents and trustees should know—as well as surprising moments as he has helped colleges navigate finances, lawsuits, community impact, teach-outs, and more. And he explains why he sees signs of hundreds of college closures on the horizon.
Relevant Links
“The Looming College-Enrollment Death Spiral,” by Jeff Selingo in The Atlantic.
“History auctioned as Iowa Wesleyan closes its doors,” in Homegrown Iowan.
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
1:04 - The Surprising Complexity of Closing a College
3:00 - How a ‘College Closure’ Found that Profession
5:17 - How Do Colleges Find a Closer?
9:00 - Walking Through the Early Phases of Closing a Campus
14:53 - What Happens After the Final Graduation Ceremony?
18:55 - ‘Community Freebie Days’
22:33 - What’s The Most Surprising Thing a Closing Campus Had to Auction Off?
26:12 - Warning Signs That a College Might Fail
28:19 - Why College Sports Can Shutter Colleges
30:26 - 400 Colleges Could Fail in the Next 10 Years
32:11 - 20 or 30 Colleges Could Close This Year
33:18 - Why Don’t More Colleges Merge?
35:00 - Is Anyone Buying Closed Colleges?
38:33 - The Emotional Toll of Closing a College
42:06 - Sponsor Break
42:35 - Did Higher Ed Build Too Many Colleges?
49:28 - What Is Emotionally Lost When Colleges Disappear?
51:43 - What Will Happen to All These Closed Campus Facilities?
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The College Where Funding Follows Students’ Earnings, Not Enrollment
2026/05/05
Most public colleges get state funding based on “seat time,” — how many students are sitting through classes. Over a decade ago, leaders at Texas State Technical College bet on an experimental funding model that ties state support to the employment outcomes of their graduates. For this episode, we hear from the architect of the unusual approach, Michael Bettersworth, the college’s vice chancellor and chief marketing officer. And Jeff and Michael explore the lessons that all types of colleges can take from rethinking funding models to better match their missions. This episode is made with support from Ascendium Education Group.
Chapters
0:00 - Introduction
3:49 - A College That Only Gets Paid When Students Get Jobs
6:42 - How the Unusual Funding Model Started
9:49 - How Has the Funding Model Gone?
12:05 - Voters Approve Endowment for a Technical College
13:20 - A Quest to Better Map Skills Colleges Teach to Jobs
18:52 - The Importance of ‘Occupational Identity’
21:17 - Should Other Types of Colleges Try This Funding Model?
23:40 - How Much Should Colleges Be Responsible For Student Employment Outcomes?
25:43 - How Is AI Changing the Conversation About Skills?
29:01 - Creating Incentives to Map Teaching to Jobs
31:20 - How Can We Know What Skills Are Actually Needed in Certain Jobs?
34:41 - Funding Models Should Match College Missions
39:58 - Lightning Round with Michael Bettersworth
Relevant Links
“If—” by Rudyard Kipling
“Inventing a Job-Skills Machine,” by Rebecca Koenig in EdSurge
“Taxonomies of Human Performance,” by Edwin A. Fleishman.
“Marc Andreessen says AI layoffs are a farce: Companies are 75% overstaffed, and AI is the ‘silver bullet excuse’ to clean house,” in Fortune.
Cutting Degrees That Don’t Add Value
2026/04/21
There’s a growing movement to make sure colleges offer ‘degrees of value,’ meaning that offerings lead to higher-paying jobs for graduates than if they hadn’t gone to college. Jeff and Michael talk to a key proponent of the idea, Harrison Keller, the president of the University of North Texas and former Commissioner of Higher Education in Texas. He talks about his experiments to redesign colleges to better match their offerings to the needs of the labor market. This episode is made with support from Ascendium Education Group.
Relevant Links
“Building a Talent Strong Texas,” strategic plan from Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board.
“University launches regional partnership for Texas Talent Accelerator to meet industry demands,” in the North Texas Daily.
“University of North Texas to cut more than 70 programs and minors to trim $45 million deficit,” in the Texas Tribune.“
Syracuse Drops 84 Majors Including Classics, Ceramics and Italian,” in The New York Times (gift link).
Chapters
0:00 - Introduction
1:30 - A President Trying to Align Degrees to the Labor Market
3:43 - The Elevator Pitch for Ensuring ‘Credentials of Value’
5:50 - Creating a ‘Hub’ to Analyze Fast-Changing Employment Landscape
9:04 - Is There a Danger of Training Students for Dying Jobs?
12:11 - What Programs at UNT Aren’t Working?
14:14 - What About Majors With Social Value That Don’t Pay Much?
17:21 - How Do State Funding Formulas Need to Change?
20:06 - How Do Universities Need to Change Their Structures?
23:32 - What Should Universities Do to Respond to AI?
28:07 - Sponsor Break
28:46 - Colleges Need to Do More to Connect Liberal Arts to Job Skills
33:14 - The Case for a More-Detailed Mapping of Liberal Arts Skills to Work
41:56 - A Move to Shorter Degree Offerings in Some Fields
45:33 - Eliminating Programs With Low Demand
50:40 - Lightning Round with Harrison Keller
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The University President Who Isn’t Afraid of Speaking Up
2026/04/14
These days colleges are under fire from the Trump administration and critics on multiple fronts. Dartmouth's president, Sian Beilock, is one of the few Ivy League presidents not getting hauled before Congress, though her approach has plenty of detractors. Jeff and Michael talked with Beilock about the purpose of college, and how to lead in this polarized and uncertain time. This episode is made with support from Ascendium Education Group.
Relevant Links
“It feels like there’s no jobs,” in The New York Times.
“Dartmouth announces AI partnership with Anthropic, company accused of plagiarizing Dartmouth professors’ publications,” in The Dartmouth.
“What an Ivy League Education Really Gets You,” in The Atlantic.
Chapters
0:00 - Introduction
1:52 - An Up-and-Coming College President
4:17 - ‘Leading With Values’
6:24 - The Choice to Be Outspoken in this Moment
7:16 - How Should We Think About the Modern College Presidency?
8:33 - How to Respond to Controversial World Events
10:00 - Why Does College Seem So Much Harder and Less Satisfying to Students Today?
12:24 - How Can Colleges Provide More Work Experience?
15:30 - Helping Students Learn Soft Skills
18:04 - What Role Should Colleges Play With AI?
20:15 - Do Students Need Colleges to Learn in an AI Era?
22:27 - How Should College Presidents Engage With Students?
24:53 - Should Highly-Selective Colleges Expand Their Classes
26:39 - Sponsor Break
27:24 - The Importance of Clarity of Mission
33:04 - How Should Colleges Talk About the Soft Skills They Teach?
35:20 - How Personal Stories Bleed Through in Leadership
37:10 - The Challenge of Presidents Forging Relationships With Students
40:27 - Lightning Round with Sian Beilock
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The Busts in Buildings, AI, and College Presidencies
2026/04/07
As winter thaws and spring arrives, Jeff and Michael reflect on six big issues facing higher education. First up, why they think the campus building boom is over — and what comes next. They also discuss how AI is changing both higher ed and the world of work; what recent scandals involving college presidents mean for the sustainability of that job; and why the finances of college sports just don’t add up. This episode is made with support from Ascendium Education Group.
Relevant Links:
“From Building to Stewardship,” by Jeff Selingo.
“Labor market impacts of AI: A new measure and early evidence,” by Anthropic.
“AI Isn’t Lightening Workloads. It’s Making Them More Intense,” in The Wall Street Journal.
“2026 Survey of College and University Presidents,” in Inside Higher Ed.
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
1:59 - The Campus Building Boom Is Over
4:30 - Moving to ‘Facilities Stewardship’
12:47 - Is Higher Ed Too Negative About AI?
17:47 - ‘AI-Native Universities Will Be Pretty Disruptive’
21:13 - Why the Cost of Acquiring Students Is Key
23:13 - New Report on How AI Is Changing Jobs
29:22 - What’s Happening With the University Presidency?
32:00 - New Survey of College Presidents
33:22 - Why the Finances of College Athletics Don’t Add Up
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The Sports Betting Madness on College Campuses
2026/03/24
It’s March Madness, a prime time for college sports – and for sports betting. Some two-thirds of college students now bet on sports, and the meteoric rise in popularity brings a mix of tough challenges for campus leaders. On this episode, Jeff and Michael talk with two officials from the NCAA, Clint Hangebrauck and Mark Hicks, to understand why a rise in student gambling could become “the next big public health crisis” for campuses. This episode is supported exclusively by Ascendium Education Group.
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“U.S. sports betting: Where all 50 states stand on online sports betting sites,” in CBS Sports.
“Federal prosecutors charge 26 men with alleged conspiracy to manipulate college basketball games,” in The Athletic.
Suspensions, arrests and lifetime bans: A timeline of sports betting scandals since the repeal of PASPA,” in ESPN.
“NCAA won't allow pro sports betting by college athletes and staff amid gambling scandals,” in PBS NewsHour.“
‘Is This Insider Information?’ The Prediction Market Bets Driving a Campus Frenzy,” in The Wall Street Journal.
Chapters
0:00 - Sports Betting Is Suddenly Everywhere
2:10 - The Turning Point That Drove a Gambling Boom
3:11 - Scandals Threaten the Integrity of Games
3:53 - Why ‘Prop Bets’ Pose Threats for Athletes
4:44 - The NCAA’s Role and Introducing Our Guests
5:45 - Laying Out the Landscape of College Betting
8:37 - How Widespread Are Problems Related to Sports Betting?
12:07 - Why College Presidents Should Be Concerned About Gambling
15:56 - Which Sports or Schools Face the Biggest Impact of Sports Betting?
20:04 - Should Student Athletes Be Allowed to Bet on Pro Sports?
22:51 - What Should Colleges Do About Sports Betting?
25:15 - What Is the NCAA Doing to Protect Student Athletes?
29:40 - How NCAA Collaborates With Betting Companies
33:52 - What’s Next for Sports Betting?
36:42 - A Wake-Up Call to the Issue of Sports Betting
40:53 - Sports Betting Touches Many Parts of Campus
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Oya Boya 2025/09/09
Pulse on state of higher ed
Great podcast for anyone interested in learning what’s going on in the higher ed ecosystem. So informative for me, a college counselor, but also for a...
dulldencaulfield 2025/05/09
One-Sided Concerns
I respect Jeff and Michael, but I’m deeply disappointed by their recent episode recapping Trump’s first 100 days. Repeated references to colleges havi...
Rebecca Rubenstein 2025/01/28
Fascinating Podcast, from a Parent’s Perspective
I’ve been reading Jeff Selingo’s books since my older son was in middle school. Jeff has helped educate me on the application process as well as the g...
Scott from Minnesota 2024/10/01
What it all means
I’m a trustee at a college and find this podcast fascinating as a citizen and incredibly useful as a trustee. Rather than just tell me stories like ot...
The Vampire Squid Chronicles 2022/09/06
Great Podcast
Welcome back! Always enjoy the podcast while quite disenchanted with the ossified debacle that is Higher Ed in the US. Is an antiquated “4 year resi...
S Paloma 2021/01/25
Great resource for higher ed innovators!
I look forward to each episode. Jeff and Michael bring in leading thinkers and doers, and ask great questions. Love this podcast.
RKS1967 2020/10/12
My “Go To” resource for all things Higher Ed
Michael and Jeff have excellent knowledge, depth and reach in higher-Ed and is a must listen to resource for anyone interested in the future of educat...
The Intellectual Capitalist®️ 2020/03/04
A Must Listen For Future Focused HigherEd Pros!
If you’re a College President, Trustee, University Exec, and/or a Future Focused Higher Ed Professional, this show is for you!
Turn down the noise a...
Latzfam 2019/04/16
Very helpful as a parent of high schoolers
As a parent I find all of Jeff and Michael’s information VERY VERY useful.
KDM047 2019/04/09
Great Content, Needs Better Delivery
I want to give this podcast five stars, because Michael and Jeff have great guests and I appreciate the succinct length of each show. However, the amo...
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