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Releasing the pressure to have all the answers, confronting broken mental health systems, and reclaiming the art of being present. Get The Wounded Healer's Toolkit here.  Invite Sarah to speak about Psychotherapy for a Changing World: A Practice of Unlearning for Uncertain Times here. Beyond Sivie Suckerman's formidable credentials as a practice owner, podcaster, and creator of the Therapists Unchained community, her compassion for mental health providers shines through. She built Therapists Unchained as a resource hub to empower professionals amid a tidal wave of changes to our field. Sivie and I offer guidance on increasing our capacity for uncertainty, leaving the restrictive role of "expert" behind, and embodying the position as witness for our clients more fully. "When you feel compelled to jump in and fix or solve, you end up right in the mud with your clients," observes Sivie.  In this episode: Stop fixing, start being: Why therapeutic presence and the ability to sit with suffering can matter more than finding the perfect intervention. The systems shaping mental healthcare: How insurance companies, venture-backed platforms, and institutional expectations affect clinicians and their clients. Who takes care of the therapist? Why clinician well-being, financial stability, and professional autonomy are essential to sustainable mental healthcare. Building capacity for uncertainty: How therapists can move beyond the role of expert and develop a healthier relationship with what they cannot control. Reimagining the future of therapy: Why collaboration, shared resources, professional solidarity, and collective action can help clinicians create something better. Everything will eventually collapse––the insurance industries, the outdated systems, even the ways we train to become mental health professionals. Sivie is providing space for practitioners to co-create what comes next. And here's the good news: no one has to have all the answers. Instead, Sivie asks, "What do we have that we can contribute to the whole, because everybody does bring something different?" Join The Therapist Network and receive 20% off your subscription tier when you enter the code SARAHROCKS. RECOMMENDED EPISODES Data, Dollars, and the Future of Therapy with Sharon Harper (Therapists Unchained | Sivie Suckerman) Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You'll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah's group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it's a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah's group directly at tinyurl.com/HealerConsultTTN. UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. Invite Sarah to speak about Psychotherapy for a Changing World: A Practice of Unlearning for Uncertain Times here. SUPPORT THE SHOW Sarah's Downloadables Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

On self-promotion, authentic marketing, and finding your own way to be visible as a therapist. Anxiety is as old as humankind. Maybe that's why every person has a different definition of the uneasy state that derails our thoughts or actions.  Time to connect with an expert. Noelle McWard Aquino, LCSW, is a Chicago-based therapist and soon-to-be major TED Talk alum. She has three decades of experience supporting clients with anxiety and is the bestselling author of Anxiety Unpacked: Discover Your Type and Recover Your Peace.  Now, Noelle is navigating the excitement and vulnerability of her TED Talk hitting the main TED channel. "The thing that's most uncomfortable for me is anything that feels like self-promotion. I'm not somebody who loves being front and center."  In this episode: The vulnerability of therapist self-promotion Authentic marketing for mental health professionals Introversion, extroversion, and professional identity Connection over conversion Understanding anxiety differently What feels like uncomfortable exposure for one person (Noelle) may be another person's jam (Sarah). But they share the same desire: to be known in their authenticity and to feel safe doing so.  Join The Therapist Network and receive 20% off your subscription tier when you enter the code SARAHROCKS. Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You'll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah's group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it's a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah's group directly at tinyurl.com/HealerConsultTTN. UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. SUPPORT THE SHOW Sarah's Downloadables Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

Why therapists need compassionate curiosity, not fear, when talking about suicide. Suicidal thoughts or suicidal ideation (SI), like the emotions that swirl around it, is a source of information. That perspective-altering declaration comes from my guest, Sally Spencer-Thomas, Ph.D. She's a brilliant, internationally recognized suicide prevention leader who lost her beloved brother to suicide. Sally urges cautious mental health professionals (and worried friends/family members tbh) to build their capacity for curiosity around suicide and SI. Together, Sarah and Sally explore how clinicians can move beyond fear, liability, checklists, and the illusion of control toward compassionate curiosity, relationship, agency, and genuine human connection. They also explore grief, spirituality, continuing bonds with people who have died, and what it means for therapists themselves to be wounded healers. In this episode: Why suicidal thoughts and feelings can be valuable information How fear and liability can interfere with the therapeutic relationship Different patterns of suicidal intensity—and why one-size-fits-all intervention doesn't work The importance of agency, nervous-system regulation, trust, and human connection Why therapists' own lived experiences with suicidality deserve a place in the profession Grief, continuing bonds, and Sally's experiences of her brother's presence after his death Emerging models like polyvagal theory offer hope. But our ability to sit with what's uncomfortable may be our greatest source of preventative care. Join The Therapist Network and receive 20% off your subscription tier when you enter the code SARAHROCKS. Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You'll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah's group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it's a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah's group directly at tinyurl.com/HealerConsultTTN. UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. SUPPORT THE SHOW Sarah's Downloadables Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

An autism specialist and a skeptical therapist debate diagnosis, accommodations, masking, burnout, and who gets to define a "normal" brain. I love a debate; they make for great podcast episodes. While their official goal is to generate effective critical thinking, that skill is often missing from the "debates" favored by social media algorithms, especially when the topic strikes a chord of cultural conflict like educational curricula, gender identity, and neurodivergence. It's neurodivergence that gets the legit debate treatment in my conversation with new friend and fellow documentary film fiend Kory Andreas, LCSW-C. But rather than the standard "affirmative/negative" approach, our debate digs into the information (and misinformation) that surrounds diagnosis of and accommodations for folks on the spectrum, plus broader societal acceptance of neurodivergence.  Join The Therapist Network and receive 20% off your subscription tier when you enter the code SARAHROCKS. Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You'll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah's group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it's a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah's group directly at tinyurl.com/HealerConsultTTN. UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. SUPPORT THE SHOW Sarah's Downloadables Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

Career paths, mentorship, workplace power, and finding your voice as a therapist. When we met a few years back, Lee Thompson, LCSW, was an early career therapist, a "COVID baby" of sorts. She inherited a professional space acclimating (or not) to rapid changes in the field, like the use of conferencing tools and the growing popularity of VC-backed virtual "wellness" platforms.  Lee is part of a broader, younger cohort that has opted to enter private practice upon graduation rather than pursue experiences in community mental health. There are many reasons for this generational shift, not least of which is an opportunity to pay back those increasingly burdensome loans.  We talk about: the external forces weighing on therapists' career choices,  the life-changing magic of meaningful mentorship,  and how group practice employees can feel empowered even during challenging times.   How are we having conversations between owners and employees to actually make it more feasible to be in the group practice space with all of these changes coming? Good question. Some of the answers lie in the power dynamics of a group practice. The tension in these relationships must be addressed openly and honestly on both sides because, even if the practice owner is being absolutely 100% perfectly benevolent, the relationship doesn't work if the employees aren't owning 100% of their power. Group Practice (R)evolution is a podcast series offering insights from owners, employees, and experts, and resources to support this wildly ambitious vision for the future. Become a part of the (R)evolution in our Authentic Leaders Group. Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group cohort. This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. SUPPORT THE SHOW Sarah's Downloadables Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

AI Can Reduce Symptoms. But Is That Therapy? Ted Faneuff on artificial intelligence, human connection, therapist burnout, and what technology can—and can't—replace. I'm gonna potentially anger some folks, but here I go: I understand that AI has become a moral issue (on top of being an environmental one). That said, while I agree with some of the concerns, the tech does offer major benefits. Don't @ me. You can find plenty of recent episodes where I wrestle with the pros and cons of using artificial intelligence in therapeutic spaces. Add this conversation with Ted Faneuff, LCSW, to that list.  Ted is the clinical operations leader at Upheal, an AI-powered platform that helps therapists manage progress notes, treatment plans, and other daily operations.  We dig into the questions shaping the AI debate and motivations guiding three distinct user groups: therapists who are firmly opposed to AI, therapists who are cautiously curious, and therapists who are already enthusiastically adopting the tech in their practices.  Where would you place yourself on this spectrum? Would anything shift your opinion or usage of AI one way or the other? Join The Therapist Network and receive 20% off your subscription tier when you enter the code SARAHROCKS. Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You'll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah's group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it's a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah's group directly at tinyurl.com/HealerConsultTTN. UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. SUPPORT THE SHOW Sarah's Downloadables Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

AI, venture capital, tech platforms, and the fight to preserve quality and human connection in mental health care with Steve Duke, creator of The Hemingway Report. We're at a tipping point in the evolution of our field, especially when it comes to the rapid ascendancy of venture capital, consolidation, and technology—those AI chatbots lurking and learning in the digital shadows.  I sound the alarm not to incite panic but to encourage resistance. We don't have to bow down to the homogeneity of late-stage capitalism. We do have to recalibrate outdated modes of operation and revamp our self-care strategies if we hope to continue providing quality service.    Steve Duke is one of the bright minds I turn to for data-driven inspiration and motivation. He founded The Hemingway Group, a business working with mental health organizations to help them succeed clinically and commercially.  If it still feels like AI is coming for your job, you're not wrong. Capitalism is continually working to optimize any experience for shareholders. But what about consumers? A growing consensus says clients of the behemoth therapy platforms are beginning to seek out quality over cheap access.  To learn more about Steve visit TheHemingwayReport.com Join The Therapist Network and receive 20% off your subscription tier when you enter the code SARAHROCKS. Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You'll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah's group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it's a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah's group directly at tinyurl.com/HealerConsultTTN. UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. SUPPORT THE SHOW Sarah's Downloadables Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

Sarah shares an episode from a podcast (and therapist) she'd like to introduce you to: Therapists Unchained with Sivie Suckerman  In this episode of Therapists Unchained, Sivie interviews Sharon Harper, a licensed clinical social worker and founder of the Therapist Resource Institute (TRI). The conversation explores the necessity of reclaiming professional autonomy and building sustainable careers through authentic human connection and systemic advocacy, while also delving into the Therapist Resource Institute as a national platform designed to unify mental health professionals across all licenses and career stages. Harper explains that she created the organization to combat the fragmentation of the field and the growing influence of venture-backed tech platforms that often exploit clinician labor and client data. TRI is a supportive professional community that offers practical tools, such as referral networks and business vetting, while aiming to provide a collective political voice through future lobbying efforts. Thank you to Sivie and Sharon for sharing this conversation from Therapists Unchained with us.  Join The Therapist Network and receive 20% off your subscription tier when you enter the code SARAHROCKS. Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You'll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah's group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it's a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah's group directly at tinyurl.com/HealerConsultTTN. UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. SUPPORT THE SHOW Sarah's Downloadables Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

Sarah shares an episode from a podcast (and therapist) she'd like to introduce you to: A Simple Therapy Podcast with Sindee Gozansky.  Sindee Gozansky welcomes Gino Titus-Luciano, LMHC—CEO of Kokua Mental Health and Wellness Group, president of the Hawaii Counselors Association, and a therapist who believes you can't show up as a textbook and expect real healing to happen. Gino brings insight into what culturally grounded care actually looks like and why bringing your authentic self into the room doesn't mean losing your professional boundaries. Together, Sindee and Gino explore how to balance being real with staying professional, why cultural curiosity matters more than competency, and what happens when a client's values directly challenge your own. Gino shares a powerful moment working with a client who rejected DEI principles—and how getting curious instead of defensive opened the door to actual therapeutic work. He breaks down why rigid treatment models burn clinicians out, how to know when you're over-identifying or under-identifying with a client's culture, and why caring for your therapists is the foundation of caring for clients. This conversation is full of permission to stop performing, real talk about vicarious trauma, and a reminder that reflection isn't optional—it's essential. Gino challenges us to ask whether we still love this work and to build practices where clinicians can laugh, bring their specialties to the table, and actually want to show up. Because sustainable therapy starts with remembering you're a person too. Thank you to Sindee and Gino for sharing this conversation from A Simple Therapy Podcast with us. Join The Therapist Network and receive 20% off your subscription tier when you enter the code SARAHROCKS. Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You'll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah's group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it's a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah's group directly at tinyurl.com/HealerConsultTTN. UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. SUPPORT THE SHOW Sarah's Downloadables Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

What if the future of therapy asks clinicians to stop checking their humanity at the door? I've said it before, and I'll say it again: There's a gap between the world we were trained for as therapists and the world we find ourselves in now. And here to explore that gap with compassion, curiosity, and a dose of reality is relational therapist, writer, mentor, and founder of Venus + Legacy, Josie Rosario. Keep listening if you are curious about: The evolving role of the therapist to meet the needs of today's clients Therapists doing their own healing work and examining one's relationship to power as essential parts of becoming an effective clinician, Spirituality, the wounded healer, and the future of psychotherapy including faith and hope amid social and systemic collapse, and a possible return to the therapist as a more relational "village healer" rooted in community rather than positioned above it. "We have been trained to kinda check our humanity at the door a little bit," Josie says. But what happens when clients are increasingly hungry for what's real? Join The Therapist Network and receive 20% off your subscription tier when you enter the code SARAHROCKS. Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You'll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah's group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it's a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah's group directly at tinyurl.com/HealerConsultTTN. UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. SUPPORT THE SHOW Sarah's Downloadables Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

What if the biggest challenge facing therapists isn't burnout… but evolution? In this special bonus episode, Sarah shares her keynote from the inaugural Revolutionary Practice Summit, exploring why therapists must evolve—not just professionally, but personally—to meet the realities of practicing in today's world. Drawing from trauma theory, developmental psychology, leadership research, systems thinking, and her own experience as a therapist and group practice owner, Sarah offers a compelling vision for the future of psychotherapy. Rather than asking therapists to simply become more resilient, she invites us to expand our capacity for complexity, uncertainty, and collective care. In this keynote, Sarah explores: Why therapists must do their own work The hidden cost of pathological empathy Why self-care alone isn't enough Organizational trauma and unhealthy workplace cultures Vertical development and therapist maturity The "meta-crisis" shaping mental health today Power, leadership, and the future of psychotherapy Why healing must happen at the individual, organizational, and systemic levels Whether you're a therapist, supervisor, practice owner, social worker, or graduate student, this keynote is an invitation to imagine what our profession could become—and the role each of us plays in creating it. Join the 2027 Revolutionary Practice Summit. Get $50 off with code: SpeakUp50 Join The Therapist Network and receive 20% off your subscription tier when you enter the code SARAHROCKS. Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You'll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah's group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it's a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah's group directly at tinyurl.com/HealerConsultTTN. UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. SUPPORT THE SHOW Sarah's Downloadables Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

Donna Sky on Employee Ownership, Legacy, and the Future of Private Practice. Lemme ask the group practice owners a question: What's your business plan for the end of capitalism? OK, so we're not quite there yet, but "something" is pushing private practices closer to the cliff's edge of capitalism, the inevitable collapse of unbridled growth for no other reason than greed. Group practice owners who want to land safely should prepare for what comes next. Employee ownership (EO) could be what's next. Donna Sky is senior manager of business and engagement and partnerships at Project Equity. This national non-profit helps business owners explore EO and build more equitable, resilient workplaces and communities.  "There have been a lot of success stories," Donna says. "The first step is to think about what's important to you and then educate yourself." Group Practice (R)evolution is a podcast series offering insights from owners, employees, and experts, and resources to support this wildly ambitious vision for the future. Become a part of the (R)evolution in our Authentic Leaders Group. Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group cohort. This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. SUPPORT THE SHOW Sarah's Downloadables Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts   *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

Can therapists ethically work with clients whose values oppose their own? Sarah Buino and Jordan Conrad explore professionalism, self-disclosure, political identity, and the future of psychotherapy in an increasingly polarized world. Is therapy political? That's a good question and one that provokes an array of answers (just peruse any therapists' Facebook group). I've talked with a decent number of therapists who possess vastly different political views than their clients. Every one of these compassionate providers mentions how difficult it is to hold space for healing amid political discord. Enter Jordan Conrad, PhD, LCSW, a psychotherapist, researcher, and the founder and clinical director of Lexington Park Psychotherapy in NYC. Jordan is an accomplished clinician and author, and his work explores difficult topics in the philosophy of medicine, neurodiversity, and psychotherapy. He's also an excellent sparring partner on the subject of ethics in therapeutic spaces. Let's get ready to (verbally) rumble! Join The Therapist Network and receive 20% off your subscription tier when you enter the code SARAHROCKS. Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You'll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah's group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it's a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah's group directly at tinyurl.com/HealerConsultTTN. UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. SUPPORT THE SHOW Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts   *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

What therapists often misunderstand about DID, childhood trauma, shame, attachment, and the therapeutic relationship—with psychotherapist and author Sally Maslansky. **If you find conversations about childhood sexual abuse activating, please take care with this episode. Although our discussion doesn't contain explicit details, abuse is a central theme.**  Because hindsight is 20/20, allow me to add a bit of self-evaluation to this conversation with Sally Maslansky, LMFT, my emotionally wise and accomplished guest. Sally is a licensed psychotherapist, speaker, consultant, and author of A Brilliant Adaptation: How Dissociative Identity and the Therapeutic Bond Saved Me. Her work centers on the power of relationship, the complexity of the mind, and the possibility of healing even in the aftermath of profound childhood trauma.  Sally's life and career can serve as proof that people with dissociative identity disorder (DID) can heal. Here are three points to take away from this discussion: DID truly is a superior survival adaptation. It generally develops in response to attachment wounds sustained in childhood. Shame––not the feeling that we've done something bad but that we are bad––is a bummer! The more we can build capacity to identify the implicit or explicit shame-based lessons of our childhood, the closer we get to connecting with ourselves and each other. Therapists can (and should) "meet" their patients' dissociated states. With proper training and supervision, these interactions can become part of a compassionate reintegration process. "Therapy," concludes Sally, "is a collaborative venture." I agree. It's not about needing to fix; it's about accountability and liberating ourselves from trauma. Join The Therapist Network and receive 20% off your subscription tier when you enter the code SARAHROCKS. Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You'll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah's group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it's a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah's group directly at tinyurl.com/HealerConsultTTN. UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. SUPPORT THE SHOW Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

Why therapists must do their own work: leadership, integrity, and the future of therapy with Sarah Buino and Lane Essex. We made it! To the middle of 2026. I realize that's a bit of a good-news/bad-news scenario given the current political climate. Still, the fact that we're all here is something worthy of celebration. Or, at the very least, reflection. Where do we, as therapists, want to grow next? How do we get there?  I literally cannot fathom any other solution for how we evolve the profession, get better at running businesses, or treat each other and our clients than by working on ourselves.  So let's talk about: The future of therapy and therapist leadership Why self-work is foundational to ethical practice Group practice ownership and accountability The challenges of building a consulting business Integrity as a professional competency Community, belonging, and the role of thought leadership in uncertain times Cheers to more growth in the second half. Join The Therapist Network and receive 20% off your subscription tier when you enter the code SARAHROCKS. Join the waitlist for the next Authentic Leaders Group! This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now!  Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You'll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah's group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it's a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah's group directly at tinyurl.com/HealerConsultTTN. UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. SUPPORT THE SHOW Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy