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After 172 episodes over the past few years, it's time to shift our focus. We have really loved doing this show and the community that has gathered around it. Thank you all for listening and for all the feedback you have shared. At this point, we think we have said all we should say, and are shifting our focus to a new endeavor, The Catholic Dad Show! The Catholic Dad Show will release wherever you listen to podcasts every two weeks AND on YouTube. The trailer and first episode are already up. Subscribe wherever you enjoy podcasts or on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj-Q8O2YUP34qtTzScAycxA. We may be back at some point, but for the time being, we hope you will join Matt and Chris on the Catholic Dad Show. We will be leaving this show available so feel free to continue to share it with your friends in ministry. God bless! Follow MLA on Twitter (https://twitter.com/nxtlvlmin) Join the Discussion on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/groups/mlapodcast/) Ministry Leaders Anonymous is a production of Ablaze Ministries (ablaze.us) Subscribe/Rate Never miss out on the craziness of each episode by hitting the subscribe button RIGHT NOW! Help other people find the show and by sharing this episode on your social media. Thanks! Hosts: Chris Bartlett and Matt Rice Production/Editing by ForteCatholic.com Thanks to ALOB (http://a-lob.com/) for letting us use his song, Strong God (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/strong-god/1291068295?i=1291068305), from the album No Match for Love (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/no-match-for-love/1291068295)! Email us your thoughts! [email protected] (mailto:[email protected])

Matt and Chris are joined by Dr. Richard DeClue from the Word on Fire Institute as they discuss the “best kept secret” of Catholicism: Catholic Social Teaching. Learn more about what the church teaches on hot topics like Immigration, Fair Wage and more. Connect with Dr. Richard https://www.wordonfire.org/resources/press/accomplished-scholar-and-professor-richard-declue-to-lead-academic-initiatives-for-bishop-robert-barron/32920/   Follow MLA on Twitter (https://twitter.com/nxtlvlmin) Join the Discussion on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/groups/mlapodcast/) Ministry Leaders Anonymous is a production of Ablaze Ministries (ablaze.us)   Subscribe/Rate Never miss out on the craziness of each episode by hitting the subscribe button RIGHT NOW! Help other people find the show and by sharing this episode on your social media. Thanks!   Hosts: Chris Bartlett and Matt Rice Production/Editing by ForteCatholic.com   Thanks to ALOB (http://a-lob.com/) for letting us use his song, Strong God (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/strong-god/1291068295?i=1291068305), from the album No Match for Love (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/no-match-for-love/1291068295)! Email us your thoughts! [email protected] (mailto:[email protected])

Chris and Matt discuss the importance of retreats when building your ministry team. Even just a simple one day retreat can help energize and inspire your ministers. Listen to today's episode on how transformative these outpourings can be and get tips on planning your own retreats. Follow MLA on Twitter (https://twitter.com/nxtlvlmin) Join the Discussion on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/groups/mlapodcast/) Ministry Leaders Anonymous is a production of Ablaze Ministries (ablaze.us)   Subscribe/Rate Never miss out on the craziness of each episode by hitting the subscribe button RIGHT NOW! Help other people find the show and by sharing this episode on your social media. Thanks!   Hosts: Chris Bartlett and Matt Rice Production/Editing by ForteCatholic.com   Thanks to ALOB (http://a-lob.com/) for letting us use his song, Strong God (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/strong-god/1291068295?i=1291068305), from the album No Match for Love (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/no-match-for-love/1291068295)! Email us your thoughts! [email protected] (mailto:[email protected])

Chris is joined this week by one of his teens from 20 years ago who has become a quite successful in leadership in the business world. Jonathan Schmitz is a leader in sales and business coaching. He and Chris discuss the key elements of the things that he has learned and how they apply to ministry leaders. Connect with Jonathan MyLeadershipLegacy.com "My Leadership Legacy" Facebook Group Follow MLA on Twitter (https://twitter.com/nxtlvlmin) Join the Discussion on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/groups/mlapodcast/) Ministry Leaders Anonymous is a production of Ablaze Ministries (ablaze.us)   Subscribe/Rate Never miss out on the craziness of each episode by hitting the subscribe button RIGHT NOW! Help other people find the show and by sharing this episode on your social media. Thanks!   Hosts: Chris Bartlett and Matt Rice Production/Editing by ForteCatholic.com   Thanks to ALOB (http://a-lob.com/) for letting us use his song, Strong God (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/strong-god/1291068295?i=1291068305), from the album No Match for Love (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/no-match-for-love/1291068295)! Email us your thoughts! [email protected] (mailto:[email protected])

Holly Ordway joins the show to share about her love of Tolkien and the importance of the imagination in our faith. She discusses with Matt and Chris how imagination is crucial for evangelization and answering questions about the faith.   Connect with Holly http://www.hollyordway.com   Follow MLA on Twitter (https://twitter.com/nxtlvlmin) Join the Discussion on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/groups/mlapodcast/) Ministry Leaders Anonymous is a production of Ablaze Ministries (ablaze.us)   Subscribe/Rate Never miss out on the craziness of each episode by hitting the subscribe button RIGHT NOW! Help other people find the show and by sharing this episode on your social media. Thanks!   Hosts: Chris Bartlett and Matt Rice Production/Editing by ForteCatholic.com   Thanks to ALOB (http://a-lob.com/) for letting us use his song, Strong God (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/strong-god/1291068295?i=1291068305), from the album No Match for Love (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/no-match-for-love/1291068295)! Email us your thoughts! [email protected] (mailto:[email protected])

Chris, Mandi and Kris in a padded room! Bartlett is joined by fellow Ablaze Missionary Mandi Whittaker and Kris Frank, the Vice President of Vegabond Missions. Vegabond Missions is a ministry that may be a little different than many of us have experienced. Their mission is to go outside of the Church's building and reach inner city kids. Mandi and the guys share stories of taking the leap to share the Gospel is "unordinary" circumstances. Some times it didn't go well, other times it did and they learned key lessons from both situations.   Connect with Mandi at https://projectym.com Connect with Kris at http://www.kristopherfrank.com or https://www.vagabondmissions.com   Follow MLA on Twitter (https://twitter.com/nxtlvlmin) Join the Discussion on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/groups/mlapodcast/) Ministry Leaders Anonymous is a production of Ablaze Ministries (ablaze.us)   Subscribe/Rate Never miss out on the craziness of each episode by hitting the subscribe button RIGHT NOW! Help other people find the show and by sharing this episode on your social media. Thanks!   Hosts: Chris Bartlett and Matt Rice Production/Editing by ForteCatholic.com   Thanks to ALOB (http://a-lob.com/) for letting us use his song, Strong God (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/strong-god/1291068295?i=1291068305), from the album No Match for Love (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/no-match-for-love/1291068295)! Email us your thoughts! [email protected] (mailto:[email protected])

America's favorite youth ministry hero joins the podcast IN PERSON this week! Dr. Bob Rice was in town for the Ablaze training week and joined Matt & Chris to discuss youth and young adult ministry. He has been influential in calling for a new USCCB document on youth ministry and is now helping to plan for and guide that document. Bob is hilarious, engaging and a thought leader in Catholic youth ministry. This is a can't miss episode   Follow MLA on Twitter (https://twitter.com/nxtlvlmin) Join the Discussion on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/groups/mlapodcast/) Ministry Leaders Anonymous is a production of Ablaze Ministries (ablaze.us)   Subscribe/Rate Never miss out on the craziness of each episode by hitting the subscribe button RIGHT NOW! Help other people find the show and by sharing this episode on your social media. Thanks!   Hosts: Chris Bartlett and Matt Rice Production/Editing by ForteCatholic.com   Thanks to ALOB (http://a-lob.com/) for letting us use his song, Strong God (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/strong-god/1291068295?i=1291068305), from the album No Match for Love (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/no-match-for-love/1291068295)! Email us your thoughts! [email protected] (mailto:[email protected])

The age old problem...sports vs. Church functions. Whether is kids missing youth ministry to play sports or dads missing Mass to watch football, it's been an issue forever. But how should we as ministry leaders approach this age old question with fresh answers? Matt & Chris have some ideas.   Follow MLA on Twitter (https://twitter.com/nxtlvlmin) Join the Discussion on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/groups/mlapodcast/) Ministry Leaders Anonymous is a production of Ablaze Ministries (ablaze.us)   Subscribe/Rate Never miss out on the craziness of each episode by hitting the subscribe button RIGHT NOW! Help other people find the show and by sharing this episode on your social media. Thanks!   Hosts: Chris Bartlett and Matt Rice Production/Editing by ForteCatholic.com   Thanks to ALOB (http://a-lob.com/) for letting us use his song, Strong God (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/strong-god/1291068295?i=1291068305), from the album No Match for Love (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/no-match-for-love/1291068295)! Email us your thoughts! [email protected] (mailto:[email protected])

Recruiting and training of volunteers can often be lather, rise, repeat from the previous year. Matt and Chris share their flops and their successes in the avenue of training volunteers for the ministry year...starting with not calling it training(what!?!) They share the five essentials for what we need to communicate to our ministry teams.   Follow MLA on Twitter (https://twitter.com/nxtlvlmin) Join the Discussion on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/groups/mlapodcast/) Ministry Leaders Anonymous is a production of Ablaze Ministries (ablaze.us)   Subscribe/Rate Never miss out on the craziness of each episode by hitting the subscribe button RIGHT NOW! Help other people find the show and by sharing this episode on your social media. Thanks!   Hosts: Chris Bartlett and Matt Rice Production/Editing by ForteCatholic.com   Thanks to ALOB (http://a-lob.com/) for letting us use his song, Strong God (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/strong-god/1291068295?i=1291068305), from the album No Match for Love (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/no-match-for-love/1291068295)! Email us your thoughts! [email protected] (mailto:[email protected])

Matt and Chris continue their conversation from last week about the Life Cycle of a ministry. This week, they focus on the "death" stage of a ministry and what that means as well as the "growth" stage which is where most of us find our ministries.   Follow MLA on Twitter (https://twitter.com/nxtlvlmin) Join the Discussion on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/groups/mlapodcast/) Ministry Leaders Anonymous is a production of Ablaze Ministries (ablaze.us)   Subscribe/Rate Never miss out on the craziness of each episode by hitting the subscribe button RIGHT NOW! Help other people find the show and by sharing this episode on your social media. Thanks!   Hosts: Chris Bartlett and Matt Rice Production/Editing by ForteCatholic.com   Thanks to ALOB (http://a-lob.com/) for letting us use his song, Strong God (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/strong-god/1291068295?i=1291068305), from the album No Match for Love (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/no-match-for-love/1291068295)! Email us your thoughts! [email protected] (mailto:[email protected])

This week, Matt & Chris start a two part series on the Life Cycle of a ministry. They share about the stages a ministry should go through and how it often gets stopped short for many reasons. They'll share their insights into how to fix this issue and grow our ministries to new heights.   Follow MLA on Twitter (https://twitter.com/nxtlvlmin) Join the Discussion on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/groups/mlapodcast/) Ministry Leaders Anonymous is a production of Ablaze Ministries (ablaze.us)   Subscribe/Rate Never miss out on the craziness of each episode by hitting the subscribe button RIGHT NOW! Help other people find the show and by sharing this episode on your social media. Thanks!   Hosts: Chris Bartlett and Matt Rice Production/Editing by ForteCatholic.com   Thanks to ALOB (http://a-lob.com/) for letting us use his song, Strong God (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/strong-god/1291068295?i=1291068305), from the album No Match for Love (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/no-match-for-love/1291068295)! Email us your thoughts! [email protected] (mailto:[email protected])

Oftentimes important messages are miscommunicated because everyone is using different terms for things or have different understandings of terms. This can happen a lot in ministry with our teams, volunteers or with those we are ministering to. Matt & Chris discuss the practice of finding common language so that everyone can be clear on the mission of your ministry and better communicate/achieve your vision. Follow MLA on Twitter (https://twitter.com/nxtlvlmin) Join the Discussion on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/groups/mlapodcast/) Ministry Leaders Anonymous is a production of Ablaze Ministries (ablaze.us)   Subscribe/Rate Never miss out on the craziness of each episode by hitting the subscribe button RIGHT NOW! Help other people find the show and by sharing this episode on your social media. Thanks!   Hosts: Chris Bartlett and Matt Rice Producer/Editor: Taylor Schroll(ForteCatholic.com)   Thanks to ALOB (http://a-lob.com/) for letting us use his song, Strong God (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/strong-god/1291068295?i=1291068305), from the album No Match for Love (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/no-match-for-love/1291068295)! Email us your thoughts! [email protected] (mailto:[email protected])