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How do we realise a vision without losing each other along the way? And as the hardships of our world become harder to turn away from, how do we recognise what is ours to do? Tom Nixon (Website, EP120) returns to the podcast to explore source, power and the relationship between what makes us come alive and how we serve life. We sit with two ideas that can seem contradictory: our deep equality as human beings, and the different relationships we each have to an idea. What happens when hierarchy is understood as a sacred order rather than a way of exercising power over others? This brings us to “power with”. Not power as a scarce resource to divide, or something one person grants another, but the possibility of becoming powerful together. We explore how this changes the way we understand co-founding, roles and responsibility, and why mapping who is the source of what can reveal more than an organisational chart. Along the way, we touch on complexity, AI and the limits of the models we use to make sense of our work. Governance, shareholdings and structures matter, but they can also distract us from something more fundamental: what wants to come into being, and have we actually taken the first step? We keep returning to a simple inquiry. What makes me come alive?

Tree Willard joined me for a conversation about alignment, reciprocity and our capacity to transform the experiences we are living. We spoke of her work with Rewoven, making media about people already embodying these possibilities. We explored what balance means beyond our inherited ideas of masculine and feminine, and how slowing down can loosen the stories of scarcity, inadequacy and abandonment. We also spoke of joy, our responsibility to each other and what it looks like to co-create a reality where everyone gets to play their own game. “Alignment is the only assignment.” How do we make that tangible in the way we live? A deep and hopeful conversation about creating the conditions for grace, exactly where we are. Enjoy!

In this conversation with Lily Louis Starling, we explore what it would mean to move capital relationally, in alignment with what we find most beautiful and worth protecting. Lily’s work with wealth holders, DAF sponsors and wealth advisors begins with values, but quickly opens into a conversation about the whole portfolio: every investment has a material impact, whether we attend to it or not. With an estimated $124 trillion moving to the next generation, the question is not simply where capital goes, but how, through whom and on whose terms. We look at donor-advised funds as flexible sandboxes for rediscovering value, moving resources closer to communities and imagining new forms of risk and return beyond modern portfolio theory and scarcity. From Salmon Returns to the Collective Climate Justice Fund, this is a conversation about overcoming our alienation from the consequences of capital, rebuilding community around money and taking practical steps toward investing in what we genuinely care about.

Kristian Mjoen associate professor of sustainable development and community participation at NTNU (LI), CEO of Sustainbridge and Co-founder of the Sustainability Centre Norway Association. We spoke of why the local scale holds such transformative potential. We spoke of a very tangible way of relating to sovreignty and empowerment. We also touched on how starting in place allows one to unfold many value streams from a single offer and allows someone with that orientation to punch above their weight class. We also spoke of the construct of money as well as how arts holds an important role in our times. This is a very tangible and deep conversation on local participation. Enjoy!

Rudy de Waele (LI) and Alex de Carvalho (LI), co-founders of Voices of Emergence — a relational learning ecology bringing together conversations, community, learning journeys and gatherings — together with Samantha Sweetwater (LI, website), co-created The Invitation earlier this year: an intimate gathering of around 50 people exploring what becomes possible when we create the conditions for deeper relationship, collective learning and meaningful action. We spoke of archetypical patterns and synchronicities as well as the the principles and collaborations that need to be in place for a gathering like this to take shape. This is a topic of particular importance in our times as there is symmetry between how we gather and what we can discover. Remembering and adapting technology for gathering in new ways is crucial to move us towards different possible futures. This conversation touches that. Enjoy!

Les Szabo from Dr. Bronner’s (LinkedIn) joined me on the podcast for a deep conversation about the Purpose Pledge and the work he is spearheading. We explore the misalignment between business and the living world, what it means to operate in right relationship, and how the Purpose Pledge turns values into visible action rather than another reporting exercise. With 90% of a company’s impact sitting in its supply chain and 6 in 10 consumers believing companies are purpose washing, this work feels more urgent than ever. A concrete conversation about regenerative business, healthier forms of capital, and transforming food and agriculture supply chains. Enjoy!

Amit takes the time to celebrate the 300’th episode by diving into his work and findings over the last year. Reflecting on what is important now, what is his to do. An invitation to fully lean into what you truly care about and create value, not extract from there. The invitation of inquiry and the possibilities that open up when we let go of the posture of right and wrong and truly begin to love what is here.  The second part of the episode is Fredrik Forss (LI) — good friend and previous guest — interviewing Amit about where he’s currently at. This is a wonderful conversation that takes us deep into what it is to follow the movement above all, what it means to be living and why cultivating a posture and capability for relaxation is essential in these days. To connect: website, innrwrks.com, RCO Enjoy!

Paul Svensson (LI) came by the podcast and we spoke about how the hunt for flavour turned into a passion for regenerative farming and soil creation. We spoke of the transition from seeing difference as a problem to seeing it as an opportunity. We spoke of how good soil is the precondition for good food. How an obsession of data revealed how he (and we all) need to really fundamentally rethink how we eat and grow our food. Paul is on a mission to educate through letting people taste what regenerative tastes like. This was a truly inspiring, hands on conversation about Pauls work at Rosendahls trädgårdar and a look into how an award winning, competitive, michelin star chef found a different relationship to food. Enjoy! Links: website , Moose Island Garden.

This is a wonderful episode I get to lean in with Tim Logan (LI) of the Future of Learning Design Podcast, Nathalie Nahai (LI) of the In conversation with Nathali Nahai and Manda Scott (LI) of Accidental Gods. We have more than 1000 episodes between us. I find the observations towards the end being eerily similar although we're all focused on different domains. This is well worth a listen to. Enjoy!

Cordell Jacks (LI) CEO of Regenerative Capital Group came on the podcast and shared the work he's been involved in developing on a regenerative thesis. This episode shows that there there is not necessarily any conflict between regeneration and growth. But it does require us to rethink profit, rethink leadership and rethink the positionally of the investor. The orientation towards potentiating fields and tending to their essence. We speak of what it is to fit form to an organisation, to deal with LPs on a thesis that requires the investor to be unattached to specific outcomes. This conversation is honest and vulnerable and we touch the edges of our knowing several times. If you are curious about a different way of investing. Listen!

Lucas Matarazzo (LI) and Ollie Bream McIntosh (LI) came to speak about systemic transformation. We spoke of collective, systemic and machine intelligence. How we can weave together these into a richer tapestry for decision making. We spoke of how change have a temporal and cultural/psychological depth component, how systems flow and how that flow may be (re)directed. How they have a rhythm: where healthy systems are different than extractive and violent ones. We spoke of how to critically make our, and the machines’, biases visible so that we may make better decisions towards futures where flourishing, conditions conducive to life and evolution may be at the centre. We spoke how to make better decisions, including requisite diversity that actually have enough granularity for enacting change on the ground. And finally we spoke of Mutua and how they work to make impact useful through guiding and assisting capital allocators. Resource mentioned on responsible use of tech. This is a rich conversation to say the least. Enjoy!

Dr Martin Lorenz (LI) and Emily Harris (LI) came by the podcast. We spoke about their project the Anti-Brief and their reimagining of the design profession: from a profession of knowing to one of discovery. Inviting learning and conversation to its very center. This is a conversation about deep codes, conversational design and an invitation towards a different posture. Martin and Emily are currently launching a new master with Elisava - that also shows up in the conversation. This is an introduction to a different way of thinking about transdisciplinarity beyond mere interdisciplinary. We also speak of the generative move between theory (the meta) and that materiality and much more related to the practice of systems change. Life ennobling design. Enjoy!

Tharald Nustad (LI) and Evita Chiang Zanuso (LI) visited the podcast and we spoke in-depth about the Katapult ecosystem, where it is currently at and the Katapult Future Fest. This is a call to attend to this event that is one of the catalysing events in the impact space. This year in Amsterdam end of may. We spoke of what the metamorphosis is, what it means to focus and not spreading yourself to thin, how one can begin moving beyond control in investing and why fun is still an important parameter, even when looking at the state of the world. Enjoy!

Ryan James Kemp (LI) came on the podcast and we spoke of the Original Living Responsibilities (LI), living at the pace of the planet and the important of sequence. We spoke of why goals are present fobic, how circular time works, how finding a different pace may change everything. That grief is the metabolic movement of becoming reconnected. We also touch on (Re)biz the unschool for systems learning, complimentary dualities, what it means to be in relationship with life and the planet. We go deep without getting abstract - this conversation was an incredibly powerful transmission. Enjoy!

Lex Empress (LinkTree)vocalist, systems thinker and the founder of Soulsong came by the podcast. We dove deep into what singing is, what it means to be in a commercial world as artist. Performance and presence, the tension between them and how they scaffold one another. We spoke of what it is to be in contact with what is and the transformative power of devotion to the present. We spoke of truth and its ever-changing, contextual quality. The courage to let be alive what is and to move towards it. This is a conversation that touches mostly on fame, performance, artistry through song but it is about all of it. This is a conversation about wisdom, facilitation and what it takes to follow the aliveness that is at the core of the shift we are in. Enjoy!