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The Business of Watches [43] Bangalore Watch Company Co-Founder And CEO Nirupesh Joshi
2026/10/07
This week on The Business of Watches, a boutique brand and its CEO from a country that has much of the watch industry abuzz. Nirupesh Joshi is the co-founder and Chief Executive Officer of Bangalore Watch Company, based in Bengaluru (previously known as Bangalore), India.
The company was founded in 2018 and has slowly established itself as a purveyor of premium watchmaking with models that don't rely on classic tropes about the country to tell their story. Former tech industry executives Joshi and his wife, Mercy Amalraj, are building a brand that aims to express the modern spirit of India, as the country becomes an increasingly significant economic and cultural player on the world stage.
There's a rich history of watchmaking in India, marked by brands including HMT and Titan, that have produced watches at large volumes to serve India's fast-growing population of over 1 billion people. But BWC is seeking a different client, one that's more seasoned in watches, and is seeking a brand that innovates and competes with other marques from around the world to tell its own unique stories.
BWC has grown to about 15 staff members, including watchmakers repatriated from other brands, opened a boutique in its home city, and produces around 2,000 watches per year, assembled in India, using components made both in-country and from suppliers around the world. The company recently raised capital from investors, and Joshi tells us how BWC plans to bring its watches to a wider, global audience. Customers outside of India already account for about 60% of sales, and the plan is to grow that segment further with modern, high-quality watches that express the dynamism of India and its young population.
Show Notes:1:05 Bangalore Watch Company (website)
1:47 As China Retreats And The U.S. Wobbles, Is India The Next Great Hope For The Luxury Watch Market? (Hodinkee)
3:11 As India Gets Richer Its Biggest Watchmaker Titan Crafts The Nation's Most Ambitious Watch Yet (Hodinkee)
3:39 Hindustan Machine Tools - About Us
5:12 Tata Group
6:35 BWC Apogee 'Visitor'
6:51 BWC Cover Drive 'The Outfield'
7:45 The Role of Hong Kong In The Global Watch Market (Hong Kong's Finest Watches)
15:40 India rule the cricketing world, but is their dominance good for the sport? (New York Times / The Athletic)
16:08 Why does India want to be a space power? (London School of Economics)
17:17 BWC Peninsula Carbon
18:18 Delhi AQI (Instagram)
22:00 Warby Parker
23:02 High-Net-Worth Individual (HNI) – Meaning, Types, and More (DBS Bank)
24:59 Horologer Ming Executives Ming Thein And Praneeth Rajsingh Talk Design, Manufacturing, Pricing, And More (Hodinkee)
25:02 Introducing: The Fears Brunswick 40.5 Jump Hour 'Ultimus' (Hodinkee)
26:24 Bangalore Watch Company opens flagship boutique in its hometown (Europa Star)
29:28 The Business of Watches Podcast: Czapek & Cie. CEO And Co-Founder Xavier de Roquemaurel
30:31 Furlan Marri
33:25 On Paper / On Wrist The Delhi Watch Co. DWC Terra (The Grey Nato)
36:26 BWC Forty Seven
38:50 India Single Malt Whisky: Complete Guide 2026 (The Daily Whisky)
The Business of Watches [42] Formex CEO And Head Of Product Development At Dexel Raphael Granito
2026/09/30
Formex holds a unique place in the Swiss watch industry. The brand was born in the early 2000s with a proprietary case suspension system and designs that expressed the origins of its name 'forme extrême' (extreme shapes in French). But the recession spurred by the Global Financial Crisis of 2008 dealt a near fatal blow to the brand and it entered a period of relative dormancy.
Then in 2016, Formex was taken over by a group backed by one of its suppliers, Dexel, a Swiss component maker specializing in bracelets, clasps and cases as well as dials at its subsidiary Cadranor.
Raphael Granito, now in his mid-thirties, is part of the family business behind Dexel and led the take over and revival of the Formex marque. He has steered the brand's development ever since and a decade later, Formex is leveraging its manufacturing savoir-faire and research and development skills from Dexel to produce innovative and approachable-priced Swiss Made watches. The brand evolution culminated recently with the Aria, a high-end integrated bracelet titanium sport watch with an, ultra-thin, micro-rotor manufacture movement designed by Horage, priced below CHF 6,000. That's a significant step up compared to the CHF 1,800 average price point for its watches. Granito outlines how the brand has grown and connected with more customers, operating mainly outside the traditional retail structure. Still a family business, he hired his best friend from university to lead marketing and sales efforts. Formex has distinguished itself offering upscale finishing and components, including cases, bracelets innovative clasps and stone dials that include meteorite options. It's approach to design and engineering innovation, that Granito calls 'designeering,' has certainly struck a chord with a watch enthusiasts, particularly in the U.S., now the Swiss brand's largest market. Show Notes
1:05 Raphael Granito (Instagram)
1:58 Formex (company website)
2:05 The Inner Workings of Formex's Case Suspension System (WatchGecko)
2:56 The Great Recession and its Aftermath (Federal Reserve History)
3:57 The Secret Sauce Behind the Value Proposition of Formex Watches (Timefiles)
4:08 Dexel (website)
4:12 Cadranor (website)
5:16 Formex Essence
5:37
Interview with Markus Wälchli, marketing director of Formex (The Watch Society YouTube)
12:17 Hands-OnFurlan Marri Disco Diamonds Onyx – A New Affordable Entry Into Subtle Gemsetting (Hodinkee)
13:52 How to Determine Product Pricing — The Complete Formula for Small-Batch Manufacturers (Stocksmith.io)
19:26 The Aria Manufacture Chronometer From Formex (Hodinkee)
25:25 Intersect, By the Brands, For the Enthusiasts
The Business of Watches [41] Czapek & Cie. Chief Executive Officer And Co-Founder Xavier de Roquemaurel
2026/09/23
This week on The Business of Watches, we sit down with the business leader who has headed the reborn Czapek & Cie. brand for more than a decade now. Xavier de Roquemaurel didn't come from the watch industry when he co-founded Czapek with fellow entrepreneur Harry Guhl with help from watchmaker Sébastien Follonier in 2015.
He's had to learn the industry on the job and while Czapek burst on the scene by winning the Grand Prix d'Horlogerie de Genève (GPHG) Public Prize in its debut year in 2016, the company and de Roquemaurel have faced plenty of challenges along the way. From the novel financing and shareholder model they created to fund the startup, to reckoning with a massive surge of back orders for their popular Antarctique integrated bracelet sports watch model during the boom times of the post-pandemic era, as well as serious health and medical ordeals. Reconsidering all the tests he and the company have faced, de Roquemaurel says he now believes that "adversity gets the best out of you."
Today, Czapek has just opened a new boutique on the historic Quai des Bergues in Geneva on the same banks of the Rhone river where François Czapek himself had his first atelier in the 1800s. In a wide ranging interview, the Czapek CEO traces both the path of the reborn brand and how it has found inspiration in the legacy of the watchmaker that opened what is believed to be the first watch boutique on Place de Vendome in Paris while producing timepieces for Napoleon III and the French Imperial court. Stay tuned to the end for a preview of what complication the brand might take on next. Show Notes:1:05 Czapek Quai des Bergues Collection
1:58 Deconstructing the story of François Czapek (The Naked Watchmaker)
4:20 L'Oreal steals French stock market crown from LVMH (Reuters)
5:05 Agustin Almodovar Reflects on His Career as Brother Pedro's Producer (Variety)
7:01 Czapek Promenade Transparencies "Aqua Blue" (Hodinkee)
7:31 The Fratello x Czapek Promenade Transparencies "Viridan Green" (Hodinkee)
8:43 Watch Time New York
9:22 Czapek Documentary - An Unexpected Renaissance (YouTube)
10:07 Rolex, The Making Of A Status Symbol With Author Pierre-Yves Donzé (Hodinkee)
12:01 Battle of Warsaw 1831 (Wikipedia)
13:48 The Story of the Founding of Patek Philippe (Company website)
18:20 Czapek & Cie (Wikipedia)
23:09 Understanding Crowdfunding (Financial Conduct Authority)
24:50 Prospectus definition (Cornell Law)https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/prospectus35:54 Thoracic Aortic Aneurysm Dissection (UCLA Health) - we Googled it
39:57 Zegna
41:16 FINMA
42:13 Right of first refusal - definition (Harvard Law)
42:20 Tag along and drag along rights definition (Investopedia)
46:19 Czapek Deep Dive (SDC weekly 104)
49:25 Rolex Certified Pre-Owned
52:27 Inhotec SA
54:11 Czapek Watches (website)
The Business of Watches [40] Hublot Chief Executive Officer Julien Tornare On Partnering With Jeff Koons And Re-Connecting With The Brand's Founder
2026/09/16
This week on The Business of Watches, a veteran watch industry CEO who is taking on one of the biggest and most demanding challenges of his storied career. Julien Tornare is the head of Hublot, the irreverent and ground-breaking brand controlled by LVMH that's trying to reclaim some of its former glory and role as a trend-setter in industry innovation.
An affable and talented business leader, Tornare has spent almost three decades in the watch world, with Vacheron Constantin and Richemont, and then as the chief executive of Zenith, where he oversaw a dramatic revival and upswing for the El Primero maker. He then had a brief tenure as the CEO of TAG Heuer, before joining Hublot as the big boss in 2024.
Tornare talks about Hublot's turbulent journey over the past four decades, and the spirit that's reflected in the brand's unconventional and outspoken ambassadors. He also takes on the marque's critics, making the case for why the YouTuber shots are largely unjustified.
As for where Hublot is going, that's partly where it has been, as Tornare discusses the influence of Hublot's Italian founder Carlo Crocco as the company reconsiders its legacy ahead of its 50th anniversary in 2030. There's also news of a major new partnership with legendary American artist Jeff Koons, who is bringing his artistic vision to the watch brand for the first time with a series of bold collaborations. We also discuss the role that Jean Arnault, long considered the true watch enthusiast in the Arnault clan, now has with the brand. Show Notes:0:30 Julien Tornare (Instagram) 1:06 Hublot (website) 1:43 The Quirky Backstory Of The Hublot MDM (FHH) 1:59 Jean-Claude Biver & The Relaunch of Hublot (IMD Business School Case Study) 4:22 Hublot And Football A Perfect Match (The Hour Glass) 6:25 The Truth About Hublot And How Their Watches Stack Up (Luxury Bazaar) 7:51 Julien Tornare, CEO of Hublot: "Hublot Will Rebalance Its Investments" (Luxury Tribune) 9:20 Nyon (Swiss Tourism) 9:59 Hublot Classic Fusion Original Goes Back To Where It All Began (Hodinkee) 10:14 Hublot Expands The Big Bang Across Every Level (Hodinkee) 11:39 Carlo Crocco (Watch Wiki) 14:04 The Art of Fusion In Depth (Time & Tide) 14:24 Andy Warhol's Hublot (Italian Watch Spotter Instagram) 17:20 Hublot Ambassadors 19:50 Why Hate Hublot? Featuring Nico Leonard (YouTube) 21:58 LVMH Watch Boss Sees Jean Arnault as Best Candidate for His Role (SwissInfo) 24:00 Hublot Spirit of Big Bang 31:40 Inside Hublot's Mission to Turn Its Watches Into Museum-Worthy Art (GQ) 32:01 Beyond The Canvas: Jeff Koons Reimagines Time With Hublot 36:10 Hublot Big Bang Original Soft Touch (Gear Patrol) 39:02 Hublot Unveils Decade-Long Warranty As New Industry Benchmark (Johnson & Co.)
The Business of Watches [039] A Market Roundup Of Geneva Watch Days Releases With Tim Jeffreys And TanTan Wang
2026/09/09
This week on The Business of Watches, a fresh take on the new releases we saw at Geneva Watch Days and what they might mean for the market. Ahead of a special request summer fondue dinner, Tim, TanTan and Andy discuss what they saw, what they liked and didn't from the slew of novelties presented during the event.
We go deep into the debut of Gallet, discussing how the entry-level offering from Breitling's House of Brands will stack up against the competition and how it will re-enter the company into the cut-throat $3,000 to $6,000 price category at a time when the Swiss industry is struggling to halt the slide in volumes.
We also talk Bulgari, Oris, Frederique Constant, Girard-Perregaux, MB&F and the latest MADEditions, and why, when it comes to Doxa, you can't have just one. Plus, what the return of a new Northflag (now one word) heralds for Tudor. Show Notes:0:30 Tim Jeffreys
0:32 TanTan Wang
3:38 Gallet (brand website)
5:28 Introducing: The Gallet Flying Officer (Hodinkee)
5:50 Gallet Revives Vintage Fan Favorites With New "Classics" Multichrons (Hodinkee)
8:44 Business News: Breitling's House Of Brands Unveils New Executive Leadership With Georges Kern As Group CEO (Hodinkee)
11:30 Breitling To Relaunch Gallet Confirming Ambitions To Become Multi-Brand Watchmaker (Hodinkee)
12:55 Introducing: The Breitling Navitimer B09 Chronograph 41 Miles Davis (Hodinkee)
18:11 Essays: Prices, Volumes, And Passion: The Business Of Watches In 2025 And What To Expect In 2026 (Hodinkee)
22:30 Introducing: Frederique Constant Highlife Moonphase Date And Classics Moneta Handwinding (Hodinkee)
26:41 Introducing: Bulgari's Unexpected Dual Time Octo Finissimo With Vianney Halter, Plus A "Dazzle" Camo Release (Hodinkee)
30:45 Introducing: The Bulgari Octo Finissimo Tadao Ando Limited Edition Ref. 103534 (Hodinkee)
32:38 Introducing: The Girard-Perregaux Laureato Fifty Tourbillon Micro-Rotor 39 (Hodinkee)
35:50 Introducing: The Oris ProPilot X Gonzo Edition (Live Pics) (Hodinkee)
41:19 Introducing: Oris' Big Crown Pointer Date Goes Small With A New 29mm Version (Hodinkee)
43:15 IntroducingThe Doxa Sub 300 Ti5 (Hodinkee)
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-doxa-sub-300-ti5
48:30 Hands-On: The M.A.D.Editions M.A.D.3 Vincent Calabrese (Hodinkee)
49:48 Business News: Corum Is Back: With A New Admiral, Fresh Designs, And A Plan To Return Brand To Former Glory (Hodinkee)
56:19 Introducing: The Tudor Northflag Returns With Dual Time (Hodinkee)
1:02:14 Best fondue restaurants in Geneva (geneva.info)
The Business of Watch [038] Armin Strom Co-Founders And Top Executives Serge Michel and Claude Greisler
2026/09/02
This week on The Business of Watches, a visit with the folks running Armin Strom, a true original in the small but increasingly crowded field of independent watch brands. It takes its name and original inspiration from the eponymous Swiss watchmaker who was best known for his innovative and record-setting skeletonizing techniques on watches and dials.
Childhood friends Serge Michel and Claude Greisler took over the brand in 2006. Michel, who controls the company, came from a family business background (in another field of business), while Greisler was a watchmaker and engineer. Twenty years on, Armin Strom is a true original in Swiss watchmaking, producing unique timepieces pushing the boundaries of contemporary horology from an atelier in Biel / Bienne, where most of the components are produced, decorated and finished for the brand's proprietary, in-house designed movements.
This week the brand launch a new version of its Dual Time GMT Resonance in a "manufacture blue edition" with a blue mainplate. The watch employs Armin Strom's unique take on the concept of resonance with dual oscillators kept in balance by its proprietary 'resonance clutch.' The story of the development of the brand's take on the concept is a key element in its journey and we explore and unpack that process in-depth in the episode. Currently making about 400 watches a year with a staff of about 55 people, Armin Strom is on the cusp of increasing its capacity and output. The question is what that growth looks like and Serge Michel explores the decisions the brand is making to take that next step.
Show Notes:2:36 Armin Strom 3:25 Burgdorf, Switzerland (Wikipedia) 5:28 Armin Strom: Exploring Its Past And Present (Fratello) 9:00 Armin Strom's First In House Tourbillon (Europastar) 10:23 In-Depth: Understanding Resonance In Watches (SJX) 12:20 Armin Strom Resonance Clutch Spring 16:04 CSEM Neuchatel 18:02 Innosuisse 20:59 Abraham-Louis Breguet (Wikipedia) 23:10 System 78 25:56 Armin Strom's Groundbreaking 'Minute Repeater Resonance 12:59 First Edition' Lets You Chime The Time (Or Really Show Off) (Hodinkee) 28:10 Armin Strom Extends Marussia F1 Partnership (Watchpro)
The Business of Watches [037] Former CEO Of Bulgari Jean-Christophe Babin
2026/08/26
This week on The Business of Watches, we're getting a preview and history lesson of Geneva Watch Days. Born in the dark days of the pandemic in 2020, it was a new kind of watch industry gathering, that prioritized access and community over exclusivity.
Jean-Christophe Babin, the former Chief Executive Officer of Bulgari, has been there from the beginning. He tells us why Geneva Watch Days started and why it's still needed. We discuss what to expect at this year's event and what the future of watch industry events might bring.
With some 71 brands exhibiting, GWD has more marques than that other big watch show in Geneva that happens each spring, but it's very different in tone and feel. Using a 'decentralized' concept, brands pay fees based on their size and revenue and the show allows for plenty of smaller, boutique brands to show off their wares.
Open to the general public, it certainly isn't as glitzy nor as pricey an event as some others. Babin says the entire budget of GWD is likely less than the cost of staging and running a major booth at Watches and Wonders.
A veteran who has served as the head of LVMH's watch unit as well the CEO of TAG Heuer, Babin has seen the industry through a myriad of cycles, giving him a unique perspective on where the watch sector has been and where it's going.
Show Notes
0:59 Geneva Watch Days website
2:00 Geneva Watch Days 2020 / 2021 (FHS)
5:06 Geneva Tourism - Geneva Watch Days
9:12 Breitling was a founding member of GWD
10:31 Watches and Wonders
12:45 How Watches and Wonders Remains Worthwhile For Brands Big And Small (Hodinkee)
17:16 Geneva Watch Days Agenda / Panels / Symposiums
19:10 Phillips Geneva Watch Days Auction For Geneva Watchmaking School
22:15 Geneva.com
24:03 Fondation du Grand Prix d'Horlogerie de Genève
31:18 Ferdinand Berthoud
32:00 FHS Statistics
33:40 The criteria for strengthening Swiss made (FHS)
35:20 Swatch 37:50 Casio mechanical watches
40:30 Swatch X Audemars Piguet 'Royal Pop' (Hodinkee)
The Business of Watch [036] Collective Horology CEO Asher Rapkin And Liberty Justice Center Chairman and CEO Sara Albrecht On Suing Trump Over Tariffs
2026/08/05
This week on The Business of Watches, Collective Horology co-founder and Chief Executive Asher Rapkin joins us. He brought his lawyer.
While Collective is a Ventura, California-based retailer of independent watch brands, including Armin Strom, Czapek, Fears, Ming and J.N. Shapiro, Sara Albrecht is the chairman and CEO of The Liberty Justice Center. That's the non-profit litigation firm that led the legal fight successfully challenging President Trump's initial round of tariffs all the way to the Supreme Court of the United States. They won, in a surprise decision that ruled the President didn't have the authority to impose the levies that boosted the cost of importing goods to the U.S., including Swiss made watches. The government is now in the process of refunding the approximately $166 billion businesses paid out.
Of course, the Trump administration found a work-around and immediately slapped on new tariffs and, on July 24, initiated levies of 10% and 12.5% on imported goods, including Swiss made watches. That's the day that Collective Horology and another importer (dealing in exotic spices), filed a lawsuit against the President and various bodies and individuals in the administration including U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer.
Rapkin tells us why his business decided to challenge the tariff laws and take on the President and his government while Albrecht lays out the legal argument driving their case. It's a matter of significant economic importance for U.S. business and the global watch industry.
Show Notes0:46 Lawsuit filed by Collective Horology et. al against President Donald Trump
1:13 Swiss Watch CEOs Plot Next Move As US Tariffs Threaten Industry Sales (Hodinkee)
2:24 Collective Horology website
3:42 Watch Industry Cheers Supreme Court Tariff Ruling But Faces More Uncertainty As Trump Vows Workaround (Hodinkee)
4:57 Liberty Justice Center
7:28 Forced Labour Section 301 (U.S. Trade Representative statement)
10:50 U.S. dollar x Swiss franc (Xe Currency)
11:37 J.N. Shapiro Watches website
11:50 The Watch Switzerland Can't Make - Karel Bachand (Barrelhand) - Openwork podcast
14:53 Rolex And Richemont Executives Among Swiss Business Leaders Meeting With Trump (Hodinkee)
18:31 Swiss-U.S. Trade Relations (SECO)
20:05 U.S. Court of International Trade
21:11 Jamieson Greer (Hodinkee)
The Business of Watches [035] Christie's Remi Guillemin On The Fundamental Shifts In The Auction Market Driving Record Prices
2026/07/29
This week on The Business of Watches, we take stock at the halfway point of the year for watch auctions. Remi Guillemin, Christie's head of watches for the Americas, Europe and Middle East, gives us his take on what's driving the interest of the top watch collectors these days. It's a pivotal time, with the watch auction market setting record sales results at most of the top auction houses despite global economic challenges and geopolitical tensions and conflicts.
The last time the market was this hot was in the post-COVID era of 2021 and 2022. Guillemin believes this time is different, and he tells us why references from F.P. Journe and Cartier, and (surprise!) pocket watches, are driving the market these days and how that's a fundamental shift from the hype watch driven boom post-pandemic. He also shows us some of the watches in his personal collection and reveals the grail he's still chasing.
Show Notes
0:36 Remi Guillemin (Christie's website - scroll for bio) 1:00 Auctions: The Five Results That Actually Mattered, From The Spring 2026 Auction Season (Hodinkee) 3:08 Luxury Watch Sales at Auctions Drop 13% After Post-Covid Surge (SwissInfo/Bloomberg) 5:17 Revealed: A unique Audemars Piguet monopusher chronograph wristwatch unseen since its manufacture in the 1930s (Christie's) 5:49 Recent Daniel Roth Auction Results at Christie's 10:48 F.P. Journe Tourbillon Souverain Reference T 14:37 Private Sales (Christie's) 17:23 Tiffany Blue Patek 5711 18:37 Cartier London Crash 20:42 Zuckerberg Wears $900,000 Watch To Announce End Of Meta Fact Checks (Bloomberg) 23:40 The A. Lange & Söhne Little Lange 1 Moon Phase With Gold Flux Dial (Hodinkee) 29:36 Krayon Anywhere (Hodinkee) 30:34 Patek Philippe Reference 130 in steel (Hairspring) 35:15 French Soccer Legend Zinédine Zidane Talks Watches And Why He's Offering His First Cartier To A Special Charity Sale
The Business of Watches [034] Inside Lorier Watches' Acquisition With Lorenzo Ortega And Blake Malin
2026/07/22
This week on The Business of Watches, a breaking news story, of sorts. Our friends at Worn & Wound have acquired Lorier Watches. It's a story of success for the New York-based boutique brand that started way back in 2017 with a mission to make vintage-inspired watches, designed to be worn every day, at an approachable price. In a way, it's a tale of too much success.
Lorier co-founders, the husband and wife team Lauren Ortega and Lorenzo Ortega, struggled with the rapid growth of the small company, and the inability to meet demand for their products took a toll on the two-person operation. They considered winding up the brand, as it were, but a talk with Blake Malin, the co-founder of the well-established content, retail, and watch event company Worn & Wound, also based in New York, set them on a different path.
The acquisition of Lorier is the first time Worn & Wound has acquired a watch brand. Malin and Lorenzo Ortega join us to talk about how the deal came about and what's next for both Lorier and Worn & Wound. Though Ortega spent his formative years in Geneva until he was about 18, it's a decidedly American business story in the watch industry.
Show Notes:
1:11 A New Chapter for Lorier 1:48 Handsome Mechanical Watches For Less Than $500? Look No Further Than Lorier (Gear Patrol) 3:00 Worn & Wound 3:39 Windup Watch Fair 6:10 Grand Central Watch collaboration 8:02 The Lorier Hydra SIII (Hodinkee) 11:05 Windup Watch Shop 23:30 Art Deco vs. Art Nouveau (Rise Art)
The Business of Watches [033] Guido Terreni (Chief Executive Officer, Parmigiani Fleurier)
2026/07/15
This week on The Business of Watches, we're talking to the leader behind one of the strongest turnaround stories in the industry in recent years. Guido Terreni joined Parmigiani Fleurier as CEO in January, 2021 from Bulgari and has overseen a dramatic transformation in the design, style, and fortunes of the brand founded by master watchmaker and restoration expert Michel Parmigiani in 1996, with backing from the Sandoz Family Foundation.
Under Terreni's guidance, Parmigian Fleurier has been transformed. Striving to convey the concept of "private luxury," the brand has released a series of surprising, elegant, technically innovative, and yet restrained timepieces under its Tonda PF and Toric model lines.
The brand has done nothing less than reimagine and reinterpret classic complications, including the GMT and, most recently, the Tonda PF Chronograph Mysteriéux, which stole the show, for many, at this year's Watches and Wonders.
In a wide-ranging conversation, Terreni unveils the philosophy behind the brand's discreet aesthetic and the structure behind its manufacture and organization. We discuss retail, production, and design concepts aimed at taking Parmigiani Fleurier to the next level in the hyper-competitive luxury space.
Show Notes:
1:05 The History of Parmigiani Fleurier (company website) 1:38 Global Impact of the Collapse of Lehman Brothers (Harvard Business School) 3:00 Early Parmigiani Fleurier And the Enduring Appeal Of Overbuilt Watches (Hodinkee) 8:12 That Time I Wrote That 'Swatch Group' Was A Dumb Name, And What Happened Next (Hodinkee) 16:42 Tonda PF Collection (company website) 19:02 Hands-On: Parmigiani's New Tonda PF GMT Rattrapante Is The Understatement Of The Year (Hodinkee) 23:50 Quiet Luxury (EFL) 28:10 The Rise And Fall Of The Hype Watch (Hodinkee) 31:08 Tonda PF Minute Rattranpante 31:18 Tonda Chronograph Mysteriéux (YouTube Monochrome) 41:39 Brand retailers 49:36 Toric Collection (company website)
The Business of Watches [032] Henrik Ekdahl (Managing Director, Leica Watches, And Accessories)
2026/07/08
This week on The Business of Watches, we're in Wetzlar, Germany, home of the legendary camera and lens maker, Leica. Of course, Leica isn't just an optics company. Since 2015, it's been on a new mission to create watches as well, a project initiated by Leica's controlling shareholder, Dr. Andreas Kaufmann, who is not only passionate about cameras and photography, but also timepieces.
The person in charge of Leica's nascent watch ambitions is Henrik Ekdahl, a convivial Swede who has returned to Leica after more than two decades away, spent in the executive ranks of automakers, and, most recently, watchmakers such as IWC.
Leica's connection to watchmaking is not unwarranted. Ernst Leitz, the company's founder, studied watchmaking in Neuchâtel in the 1860s. It was partly this mechanical know-how that allowed him to begin producing optical instruments, including microscopes and cameras, in Germany and to create the foundation for the company that would become Leica.
The latest iteration of Leica watches, launched in 2022, is currently distributed only at Leica stores and online. Less than 5,000 watches are currently produced each year by the brand, but Ekdahl says the watch division has ambitions to grow and to make further use of its manufacturing expertise through new designs and models that draw on Leica's long association with mechanics and watchmaking.
Show Notes
0:53 100 Years of Leica: Event in Wetzlar 2:35 Henrik Ekdahl is the new Managing Director of Ernst Leitz Werkstätten GmbH 4:13 Cartier 4:50 Rolls-Royce 4:59 Mini Cooper (BMW) 6:40 IWC Shaffhausen 8:36 The History of Leica Watches 11:30 Example of vintage Leica watch (eBay) 12:36 Dr. Andreas Kaufmann on watches (YouTube) 13:38 Reinhard Meis (Deployant) 14:37 Lehmann 16:25 Leica Watches 22:21 Leica Red Dot (Red-Dot-Org) 25:59 Leica ZM 2 Monochrom 27:00 Leica ZM 12 27:30 Chronode 28:51 Leica Stores 34:01 Gerd Plange 35:40 Leica Portugal Manufacture
The Business of Watches [031] Roy Davidoff (Geneva Vintage Watch Dealer And Collector)
2026/07/01
Roy Davidoff has spent a life keeping up with the time. Born into a family of jewelers and a youth spent in Geneva, followed by a move to Miami, watches have been a constant throughout his professional career.
A return to Switzerland saw stints at brands including Bovet and Jacob & Co., before becoming a dealer of vintage and pre-owned with his brother and the launch of their business - Roy & Sacha Davidoff SA - more than a decade ago. The fraternal duo gained prominence as dealers and experts regarding the Omega Speedmaster - a specialized section of the vintage market that has most certainly had its ups and downs.
A respected name and authority in the industry, Davidoff most recently served as a jury member for The Cartier Prize For Watchmaking Talents of Tomorrow, where, alongside fellow judges including Kari Voutilainen, were tasked with making selections for creations from European watchmaking students who were chosen for their technical and artistic interpretations reconsidering different ways to tell time.
Davidoff's role as a dealer and collector demands deep knowledge and constantly taking the pulse of the secondary market, shifting tastes, and changing demands. At the high-end and elite level, the market has changed, Davidoff says, as many collectors seek assurance and certainty in modern, independent brands and watchmakers. He's candid, enthusiastic, and dedicated to the Swiss industry, where he's found a place among the brands, component makers, and collectors.
Show Notes 0:53 Roy and Sacha Davidoff, Brothers Since 1983 1:29 In-DepthThe Surprising Origins Of TAG Heuer's Formula 1 Watches (Hodinkee) 2:47 National Association Of Watch And Clock Collectors 4:09 Matthew Bain Inc. 4:20 Bovet 6:00 In Conversation with Hervé Schlüchter (Revolution) 7:59 Rexhep Rexhepi (YouTube) 8:50 Biver Watches 9:50 Cartier Maison Des Metiers Des Arts 10:41 Everything You Need To Know About The Omega Speedmaster (Hodinkee) 14:14 Omega Says Ex-Employees Responsible For $3 Million Fake Omega Speedmaster 20:46 F.P. Journe Souscription Chronomètre à Résonance Achieves $13.9 Million – Becomes Fifth Most Expensive Wristwatch Ever Sold (Hodinkee) 28:00 Breguet 32:32 Rolex Certified Pre-Owned 34:05 Cartier Prize For Watchmaking Talents of Tomorrow 39:03 Jean-Pierre Hagmann (Hodinkee)
The Business of Watches [030] Q&A Episode - Your Business Questions Answered By The Hodinkee Team
2026/06/17
This week on The Business of Watches, we take your questions on the business of timekeeping. We're joined by a swath of the Hodinkee team, including Editor-in-Chief James Stacey, Senior Editor Mark Kauzlarich, and Hodinkee Editor TanTan Wang.
We're answering your questions and marking 30 episodes of BoW. You submitted some excellent questions, including how changes in 3D printing technology will impact watch movement manufacturing, whether watch brands consider enthusiasts' preferences in their design and release schedules, and what the future of multi-brand watch boutiques looks like.
Show Notes 1:18 F.P. Journe Souscription Chronomètre à Résonance Achieves $13.9 Million – Becomes Fifth Most Expensive Wristwatch Ever Sold (Hodinkee) 2:35 Kari Voutilainen 2:47 Marteau: The Heat Wave 4:08 The Barrelhand Monolith Has Landed (Hodinkee) 11:45 Ming Polymesh (Hodinkee) 12:40 Seiko Watch Corporation President Akio Naito (The Business of Watches) 13:10 Peanuts Watches by Citizen (collectpeanuts.com) 15:03 Timex 15:50 We Criticize The Wrong Thing When We Attack Date Windows (Hodinkee) 16:40 Hands-On: Understanding The New Breguet Type XX And Type 20 22:27 One To Watch: Brew Watch Co. (Hodinkee) 27:00 A. Lange & Söhne North America boutiques 30:15 Photo Report: The 2025 Toronto Timepiece Show (Hodinkee) 33:05 Rummele's Jewelers Green Bay Wisconsin
The Business of Watches [029] Benjamin Arabov, CEO Of Jacob & Co.
2026/06/10
This week on The Business of Watches, a brand we don't talk about a lot on this channel - Jacob & Co. Complicated, audacious, and expensive, Jacob & Co. watches hold a unique position in the industry. The brand enjoyed a strong 2025, growing sales and volumes, according to estimates by Morgan Stanley and LuxeConsult, bucking the industry trend.
And the brand recently got some high-profile exposure on the wrist of the Roland Garros winner with French Open champion Alexander Zverev wearing Jacob & Co. during his matches and on the podium.
We sat down in Geneva with Benjamin Arabov, the Chief Executive Officer of Jacob & Co., to talk about the brand's operations and strategy. You might be surprised at how Jacob & Co. watches are produced, the size of its production, and how the brand is being impacted by the war in the Middle East.
Finally, looking ahead to next week's episode, number 30 in the history of The Business of Watches, we're planning a special Q&A episode and will gather some of the Hodinkee team, including Editor-In-Chief James Stacey and Editors Mark Kauzlarich and TanTan Wang, to answer your business-related questions. Want to offer up a question? Please drop it in the comments on this episode's page on Hodinkee.com. We're looking forward to hearing from you and answering your questions on all things watches and business!
Show Notes
0:40 Rolex And Cartier Are In Another League – A Deep Dive On The Pains And Gains In Morgan Stanley's "Swiss Watcher" Report (Hodinkee) 1:13 Chopard plans to cut jobs in Val-de-Travers (Le Temps) (French, paywall) 2:59 Chopard plans to cut around 30 jobs (RTS Info) 3:20 Swiss Watch Export Data for April (FHS) 4:35 Jacob & Co. 5:45 CEO Benjamin Arabov Triples Sales In Five Years (Bilan French)) 10:20 Jacob & Co. Collaborates On Exclusive Watch With Salman Khan (Watch Pro) 13:46 Concepto Watch Factory (company website) 14:35 Jacob Arabo / Arabov (Wikipedia) 15:17 Astronomia Regulator 18:50 Our Favorite Guilty Pleasure Watches Of 2018 (Hodinkee) 21:15 Godfather II Watch (Jacob & Co.) 25:01 In-Depth: How The Five Time Zone Shaped Modern Watch Culture (Malaika Crawford Hodinkee)
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Genopilled2023 2026/05/30
Great Podcast - Terrible French Accent
In general, I love the podcast. Keep it coming. But, can Andy please stop with the horrific French pronunciations? They are so tortured and overwrough...
UNC9990 2025/04/06
Great Pod, Less Malaika
Malaika is a real weak spot in this podcast. I enjoy her articles, but her tendency to interrupt and ramble makes her a poor podcast guest.
Izzy1213617818323 2025/04/02
Love the Podcast—But Let’s Talk Backes & Strauss
Hey Hodinkee Team,
Huge fan of the podcast—it’s the perfect mix of deep horology and great storytelling. But can we get some tea on Backes & Strauss?...
Slackergirl. 2025/03/14
Come back!
Hopefully will start up soon again. Always enjoy the Hodinkee podcast. Nice mix of views among all the contributors.
Frontier 1932 2024/12/24
Now unlistenable
I’ve listened to the podcast from the beginning, but Malaika’s interruptions of other hosts and content are horrible.
SnoopyWatch 2024/12/20
I’m trying - I am
I’m really trying hard to like this podcast because the subject really interests me. But the woman with the overly-affected, drawn out vocal fry just...
I am late for dinner 2024/12/16
Great content, not great audio
The content is almost always amazing. The latest episode from 12/16/24, however, had very bad audio for the guests not the host. I expect better quali...
d3rkd1zz 2024/11/18
F**t sniffers running a podcast
I tried to like this podcast after listening to a few episodes, but it was just too hard to stay engaged. HODINKEE has had some good video content in ...
Retrovibe 2024/06/22
Was Good. Now Bad.
In the same way that Hodinkee has destroyed their main product, now too have they completed the tragedy by destroying what used to be one of the best ...
mawoody05 2024/05/19
Great podcast but Malaika is insufferable
Would give 5 stars to any episode that does not include Malaika.
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