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Eve and Kieryn are back for a quick update! In the last year Trump was re-elected, Project 2025 started becoming law of the land, Eve made quilts, Kieryn briefly appeared in Shiny Happy People season 2 (we get into it), and is ~a semester and finishing their Gofundme away from getting their Associates degree in Social Sciences! Show notes: GoFundMe - https://gofundme.com/makekierynsmarter Convention of States on Shiny Happy People - https://conventionofstates.com/news/mark-meckler-amazon-prime-show-attacks-cos Prism Article - https://prismreports.org/2024/05/20/christian-nationalist-playbook-usurp-democracy/ Shiny Happy People is streaming on amazon prime!

Kieryn and Eve discuss the German family who sought (and were temporarily-ish granted!) asylum in the US to be allowed to homeschool their kids because Germany takes the rights and education of Children seriously. Show notes: https://tinyurl.com/romeikenotes This episode was produced by the lovely Mary Steffenhagen!

Kieryn and Eve explain the updated policy agenda of the Christian right. We talk about the various tools Christian nationalists plan on using to usurp democracy regardless of who wins the presidential election this year. We dive into Project 2025, the little known and even less talked about Convention of States, and the bureaucratic mechanism at the crux of it all. Notes: Read Kieryn's reporting for prism - https://prismreports.org/2024/05/20/christian-nationalist-playbook-usurp-democracy/ This episode was originally made as a test episode for a major media company, our producer was Mary Steffenhagen!

Errin Haines of The 19th* News joins Kieryn and Eve to talk about the future of journalism, being a progressive Christian while covering the news, and the liberatory nature of Black Christianity in the US. Notes: https://19thnews.org/ https://19thnews.org/topics/podcast/ https://x.com/errinhaines https://www.instagram.com/emarvelous

Kieryn and Eve talk with Carly Butler about her memoir, Apocalypse Child, what identity abuse looks like for homeschooled kids, and how it feels to reparent yourself while parenting children. Pre-order the book: https://bookshop.org/p/books/apocalypse-child-carly-butler/20702732?ean=9781773861326 Follow Carly: @carlymbutton everywhere

Kieryn and Eve chat with Michelle Dowd about her fascinating memoir, Forager. What it was like growing up in the family of a cult leader and how wild it is to get out into the real world after growing up in the woods. Check out Michelle's work and get the book! https://bookshop.org/p/books/forager-field-notes-on-survival-a-memoir-michelle-dowd/18759728 https://www.michelledowd.org/ https://www.instagram.com/michelledowdz/ https://mdowd.substack.com/ https://mdowd.substack.com/subscribe?utm_campaign=email-subscribe&next=https%3A%2F%2Fmdowd.substack.com%2Fp%2Fcontinue-foraging-for-what-you-need

What do censorship, homeschooling, intellectual freedom, and libraries have in common? We get into it today with Eddie Kristan about the fight libraries are seeing with parental-rights extremist groups trying to censor books and the impact that has on children's rights to access information. Show Notes: Institutions on the job: Freedom to Read Foundation (IF arm of the ALA): https://www.ftrf.org/ Emily Knox - Freedom to Read Foundation - [email protected] PEN American has been on the job: https://pen.org/report/book-bans-pressure-to-censor/ DPLA - the banned book club: https://www.dplabannedbookclub.com/ Queer Liberation Library https://www.queerliberationlibrary.org/ Brooklyn Public Library's Books Unbanned: https://www.bklynlibrary.org/books-unbanned Chicago Public Library Book Sanctuaries: https://www.chipublib.org/news/book-sanctuaries-committed-to-protecting-banned-and-challenge-books/ CPL Book Sanctuary Project: https://www.booksanctuary.org/ Past ALA cases: United States, et al. v. American Library Association, Inc. et al., 539 U.S. 194, 123 S.Ct. 2297, 156 L.Ed.2d 221 (2003) Tattered Cover, Inc. v. City of Thornton, 44 P.3d 1044 (Colo. Sup. Ct., 2002) Sund v. City of Wichita Falls, Texas, 121 F. Supp. 2d 530 (N.D. Texas, 2000) the “300 signatories” case. Case v. Unified School District No. 233, 908 F. Supp. 864 (D. Kan. 1995) The “Annie on my mind” case. Active cases to follow: Pen America v. Escanaba School District 23-cv-10385 Filed May 17, 2023 Fayetteville Public Library v Crawford County et al. -23-CV-05086 Book People Inc et al. v. Wong 23-cv-00858 - Filed July 25, 2023 Leila Green Little, et al. v. Llano County, Llano County Texas Library Most concerning bills: Idaho HB 666 Indiana SB 17 Iowa HB 2176 Oklahoma SB 1142 South Dakota House Bill 1337: Tennessee House Bill 1944 Tennessee House Bill 800 Follow: emilyknox.net @fobettarh EddieKristan Eddie the Giant Librarian

Eve and Kieryn chat with Cait West about her memoir, Rift, and what it's like to leave fundamentalist Christianity only to discover that the patriarchy is alive and well in the secular world and childhood pastors became politically active Christian Nationalists. **Find Cait and buy the book!!** https://bookshop.org/p/books/rift-a-memoir-of-breaking-away-from-christian-patriarchy-cait-west/20298441 https://www.caitwest.com/ https://www.instagram.com/caitwestwrites/ https://twitter.com/caitwestwrites https://caitwest.substack.com/

What is the future of the pro-life movement without simplistic messaging focused on Roe v. Wade to galvanize conservatives? The nuances of reproductive health science and privacy laws are up for debate, and the unity that the pro-life movement once relied on is fissuring under the pressure to rally support around the details. Banning IVF in Alabama was a deeply unpopular move by the courts, and this week SCOTUS is hearing oral arguments about a case centered on the 23-year-old status of FDA approval for mifepristone. Leading those arguments? Erin Morrow Hawley, ADF senior counsel and the wife of MO Senator, Josh Hawley. *Show Notes* https://rewirenewsgroup.com/2023/11/16/why-this-teen-birth-control-case-could-kill-access-for-everyone/ https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2022/12/13/23505459/supreme-court-birth-control-contraception-constitution-matthew-kacsmaryk-deanda-becerra https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/10/texas-abortion-law-jonathan-f-mitchell-profile https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/ivf-morally-right/ https://www.lagniappemobile.com/news/ivf-clinic-attorney-argued-embryo-is-a-life/article_4f670e5e-d292-11ee-88e0-6b5e622733c3.html https://embryoadoptionusa.com/frequently-asked-questions/#:~:text=Parents%20who%20adopt%20embryos%20are,have%20relinquished%20all%20parental%20rights. https://web.archive.org/web/20130901171332/http://demossnews.com/manhattandeclaration/press_kit/manhattan_declaration_signers Science: https://twitter.com/ncrawfordmd/status/1759769551925846303 https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-94-011-6621-8_18 https://ivf-worldwide.com/ivf-history.html

This week in the Book Club, Kieryn and Eve chat with Sarah McCammon about her upcoming book (March 19) the Exvangelicals! We talk about gatekeeping knowledge, rampant anti-intellectualism, and how changing your religious beliefs change your relationships. You can take the church kid out of the church but you can't completely take the church out of the kid. Follow Sarah: https://substack.com/@sarahmccammon https://www.instagram.com/sarahmccammon_journalist/ Buy the book! https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/the-exvangelicals/

Kieryn and Eve are joined by Anna Gazmarian to discuss her debut memoir, Devout, which comes out on March 12, 2024. Growing up evangelical means growing up with shame much of the time. Add to that depression, anxiety, religious OCD, and bipolar, and you're in for a massive struggle of faith and self-worth. With Devout, Anna unpacks what worked and didn't work for her in her struggle to keep her faith in tact and get adequate treatment for the way her brain works. We discuss tolerating joy, therapy, ketamine treatments, and purity culture, as well as what supporting someone you love with mental health struggles can entail. Pre-order Devout! https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Devout/Anna-Gazmarian/9781668004036

Eve and Kieryn discoverd the Stay At Home Girlfriend/Wife /Tradwife tiktoks and note their remarkable similarity to the Above Rubies and quiverfull mommy/daughter blogs from the 00s, but with a dash of late-stage capitalism dread as a twist. What's the motivation behind people outside of religion wanting to choose this? Listen to find out! Notes: https://www.aboverubies.org/images/stories/magazines/ARMagazine69.pdf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_feminism https://politicalresearch.org/2021/07/29/why-are-gen-z-girls-attracted-tradwife-lifestyle https://www.thecut.com/2023/09/tradwife-content-influencers-conservative-ideology.html https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/12/fringe-left-alt-right-share-beliefs-white-power-movement/672454/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Steiner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldorf_education

Kieryn and Eve try to overview everything we know so far about Mike Johnson, explain the general concept of Covenant Marriage, and discuss his wife's humurous counseling practice. Instead of posting 4 pages of notes, here's one link: https://tinyurl.com/mikejohnsonktc

Kieryn and Eve talk about Jill Duggar Dillard's book, Counting The Cost. How and why it felt different from Jinger's Becoming Free Indeed, and how difficult it is to escape high control environments when the stakes are so high. Also, for more info on Christian Zionism: https://kitchentablecult.com/2021/06/09/s3-e8-christian-zionism-with-amy-fallas-and-garrison-davis/ https://kitchentablecult.com/2021/07/22/s3-e11-christian-zionism-part-2-with-aidan-orly-and-marisa-siegel/ Get the book: https://bookshop.org/p/books/counting-the-cost-jill-duggar/20124574

Eve and Kieryn chat about the right-wing extremist pivot to taking down all public education institutions. We've talked in prior episodes about radical right-wing groups taking over K-12 education, and today we explain dog whistles of "clasical liberal" education and how even well-meaning leftists are furthering the agenda to dismantle public universities and libraries. **Notes** https://time.com/6309612/christopher-rufo-public-universities-deceptive-essay/ https://www.city-journal.org/article/new-college-of-florida-abolishes-gender-studies https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2023/05/15/desantis-defunds-diversity-programs-florida-universities-gen-z/70220061007/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism https://truthout.org/articles/will-wvus-draconian-cuts-become-a-blueprint-for-austerity-across-higher-ed/ https://www.axios.com/2023/08/30/west-virginia-university-foreign-language-classes https://slate.com/human-interest/2023/08/west-virginia-university-cuts-programs.html https://www.thenation.com/article/society/wvu-cuts-higher-education/