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Julie and Torin welcome Anoop Gupta to talk start-ups, Microsoft, "Academic types" and how we use data to successfully drive incredible, underrepresented talent into our organizations, and Julie throws in a challenge to wrap us up. Anoop Gupta is the CEO and Co-Founder of SeekOut, the AI-powered Talent 360 platform. Anoop started SeekOut after a 20-year career at Microsoft, which began with the acquisition of his first startup, VXtreme, in 1997. During his tenure, Anoop was the Corporate Vice-President of the multibillion-dollar Unified Communications group. He was TA to Bill Gates, advising on technology and product strategy as a Distinguished Scientist at Microsoft Research, leading work on Telepresence and Natural User Interfaces. Prior to Microsoft, Anoop was a tenured professor at Stanford University and he holds a Ph.D. in Computer Science from Carnegie Mellon University.

Julie loves Lizzo. Now more than ever. The Washington Post tells employees, "You never speak outside the family." Burger King in Austria celebrates PRIDE with two tops and two bottoms.....yeah, you read that right! Don't miss Her Voice and new this week #DisabilityTwitter.

How will history remember Sheryl Sandberg and her 14 years at Facebook? Is she power boss woman we all wanted to be after Lean In or is she the Villain in our history? Do we hold women of power to greater fault than their male peers? Also, the Future Forum Pulse Survey shows continued anxiety and discontent as employers force feed workers rigid return to office policies while executives continue to enjoy full flexibility. We don't want to return to normal. Its time to listen to the worker.

This week, Bridgerton's Ruby Barker gets help for her mental illness and comes out the other side. The EEOC and DOJ give guidance on AI, talent acquisition technology and impact on jobseekers with a disability. Texas legislates anti-gun discrimination while California loses board diversity in the judiciary. Can we spend a little time legislating what matters vs what makes politicians richer?

Actions Speak Louder: A Step-by-Step Guide to Becoming an Inclusive Workplace. Deanna's mission is a crucial one: getting Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion into the mainstream and practiced worldwide.  Meaningful change cannot happen without awareness and education, but not alone.  Join us today for an AMAZING CATK Interview.

This week, Netflix updates their culture guidelines and says maybe we aren't a good fit for you. Is honesty the best policy in talent attraction, even when it is uncomfy? Jeep plant in Michigan is making electric vehicles while pumping more pollutants into one of the most polluted areas of the country. Torin and Julie start the CATK conversation on environmental racism. Finally, friend of the pod and master of all things recruiting, Tim Sackett, gives us his take on diversity referral bonuses. We discuss. A good take or a bad take? You decide!

Julie and Torin explore the complexities of the clash of corporate and societal culture and asks what do we expect of our leaders. Is silence acceptable? Where is the line between political and moral? And what are the consequences for both? We take guidance from current CEOs and, of course, share our own. Plus catch up on this week's quick takes and don't miss this episode's Name Drop.

An unprecedented leak from SCOTUS, prepares us for the overturning of Roe and Casey encompassing 50 years of women's rights to safe and legal abortions, contraception, and other reproductive services. In the same week, SCOTUS rules emotional damages are not included in a federal contractor's non-discrimination obligations. Torin says its a limited case, Julie says an open window allows the devil in the house. What's next? Affirmative Action and Gay Marriage are in the Right's sights. This and much more on this week's Crazy and the King.

Who decides someone is worthy of empathy? Do the white elite believe they are the only ones to decide? Mackenzie Fierceton, college student and foster kid, tests the bounds of white elite empathy. Why do we create gradations of suffering? Is suffering less than the most invalid? Let's dive right in on this week's Crazy and the King!

Two women incarcerated at Edna Mahan Correctional Facility — the state’s only female prison — have become pregnant after having sex with a pre-operative transgender woman who is also an inmate.  The revelation presents a thorny problem for state corrections officials, who have been grappling with the sexual abuse and exploitation of inmates by staff at the prison for the past decade.

Julie and Torin take a light hearted attitude this week with some workplaces fails that will make you laugh....and cringe. Plus, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) catches up, half way, on gender identity and Biden makes a big nomination to fill an open commissioner role.

Julie and Torin share some pet peeves. Torin has A LOT of pet peeves. Then they dive into the news of the week and share the story of Ota Benga as a reminder, history isn't as far behind as we would like to believe.