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Executive Commute with Jayson Krause is your one-stop podcast to stay ahead of the curve when it comes to leadership in today's volatile and complex business environment. Each episode delivers expert insights, along with practical advice, on navigating the changes and challenges you face as a leader. Learn about the science of high performance, how to design a culture of innovation, feedback techniques that will have an immediate impact, using gamification for better results—the list goes on and on. Think of this podcast as having an executive coach sharing coaching nudges, actionable insights, and valuable resources with you in a bite-size format.
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#122: Why Great Strategy Fails Without Clear Trade-Offs
2026/10/21
In Episode #122 of The Executive Commute, Jayson Krause is joined by prioritization expert Jill Urbanoski, owner of Euda Prioritize, to explore why strategy succeeds or fails in the trade-offs leaders make after the plan is set.
Jill spent years as a chief of staff to a CEO and sat on an executive team at a large finance organization. That experience gave her a front-row view of how strategy, decision-making, competing priorities, and limited resources collide in real organizations. Her central argument is simple: prioritization is not a list. It is the practice of deciding which good thing wins when two good things are in tension.
Jayson and Jill unpack strategy-led prioritization, the role values play in difficult decisions, and Jill's use of "even over" statements to make trade-offs explicit. They also explore psychological safety, decision rights, sunk costs, why stopping work is so difficult, how leaders can prioritize under pressure, and what "disagree and commit" looks like after a decision is made.
The conversation ultimately comes back to execution. A brilliant strategy can still fail when leaders do not have the structures, language, and discipline to make clear trade-offs and communicate them consistently.
Episode timestamps:
00:00 Meet Jill and why prioritization is her focus
01:34 What prioritization really means
03:59 What leaders mistake for prioritization
05:33 Competing priorities across an executive team
06:03 Strategy-led prioritization
10:56 Why prioritization determines strategic success
12:51 Staying adaptable without losing the strategy
15:50 Why smart leaders struggle to prioritize
18:17 Making the implicit explicit
21:15 Psychological safety and hard trade-offs
24:43 How values shape priorities
26:43 The "even over" method
31:06 Sunk costs and knowing when to stop
35:04 Why subtraction matters
37:49 Resolving competing priorities
41:23 Can everything be the number-one priority?
43:52 Prioritizing under pressure and uncertainty
46:02 Deciding what deserves your time and energy
48:08 What to ask before accepting a new commitment
52:03 Applying "even over" to a major transformation
57:38 Prioritization true or false
59:25 Where leadership teams should start
1:00:22 Why consensus is a myth
1:02:29 The worst prioritization advice
1:03:34 Communicating priorities after the decision
1:05:47 What "disagree and commit" actually means
1:07:29 The one prioritization principle to remember
1:08:11 Where to find Jill Urbanoski
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#121: Why Resilient Businesses Can't Depend on the Owner
2026/10/14
In Episode #121 of The Executive Commute, Jayson Krause is joined by business and enterprise value creation coach Linda Ratner to explore resilience in leadership, life, and business, and why a resilient company cannot depend on the owner carrying everything alone.
Linda's path spans emergency-room nursing, entrepreneurship, scaling Impact Urgent Care to seven locations, selling to private equity, and eventually coaching business owners and leadership teams. She explains how triage, staying calm under pressure, setting clear priorities, building accountability, and putting the right people in the right roles became essential leadership disciplines.
The conversation then goes deeper into Linda's personal story. She shares experiences of childhood instability, abuse, loss, and rebuilding her life after leaving home with $200. Her perspective on resilience is not about ignoring hardship. It is about maintaining faith that circumstances can change, taking ownership of what you can control, and continuing to act even when the path forward is difficult.
Jayson and Linda connect that personal resilience back to business: culture must be modelled, difficult conversations require clear standards, owners need to let go of work others can own, and resilience has to be distributed across people, systems, financial discipline, and leadership accountability.
Content note: This episode includes discussion of childhood abuse, sexual abuse, addiction, and suicide.
Episode timestamps:
00:00 From ER nurse to business coach
03:12 Triage, calm, and decision-making under pressure
08:20 Building structure around priorities and accountability
10:23 Why leaders do not need to do everything themselves
12:00 What Linda learned about being a CEO
13:27 Lessons from the ER and developing people
18:32 What makes a business owner coachable
19:50 Difficult conversations and broken promises
21:26 Why leaders avoid accountability
24:57 Ownership starts with the leader
27:15 Living your values and modelling culture
30:40 Staying connected as a company grows
32:20 What CEOs need to stop doing
35:34 Linda's earliest experiences with hardship
37:00 Childhood instability and learning to cope
39:13 Leaving home and building a new life
43:24 Making meaning after sexual abuse
45:44 Putting herself through school without guidance
48:13 Discovering resilience
49:21 Linda's definition of resilience
51:05 Taking ownership of your life
54:48 Grief, anger, and loss
56:52 The mindset that carried Linda through adversity
58:35 Purpose and helping others
1:00:35 What hardship taught her about control
1:03:11 Agency, acceptance, and what you can control
1:05:24 Building a resilient business beyond the owner
1:06:56 Where to find Linda Ratner
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Learn more about Linda Ratner: https://www.ratnerconsult.com
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#120: What Actually Changes People?
2026/10/07
In Episode #120 of The Executive Commute, Jayson Krause steps back from four recent conversations to ask one leadership question: what actually changes people?
Across discussions with Steve Rice, Dr. Ted Vokes, Chris Foy, and Murray Rodgers, a pattern emerges. Leaders often spend their energy trying to improve behaviour directly, but the stronger lever may be the conditions that shape behaviour in the first place.
Jayson revisits Steve Rice's case for human empowerment over human resources and why engagement efforts can miss the deeper relationship between people and their work. He then draws on Dr. Ted Vokes' work on dark traits and dark-activated behaviour to explore how culture can influence whether harmful patterns spread inside a team.
From there, the episode turns practical. Jayson shares a two-week coaching experiment inspired by Chris Foy: ask one frontier-pushing question, ask only one question at a time, and leave enough silence for thinking to happen. He closes with Murray Rodgers' reframing of imposter syndrome and the idea that the grass may be greener on the inside.
The episode also includes a preview of Champions Summit and a reminder about Level 52 leadership offsites.
Episode timestamps:
00:00 Four conversations, one leadership question
05:09 Culture, dark traits, and the 20% + 20%
09:48 The frontier question and the coaching experiment
14:46 The grass is greener on the inside
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#119: Human Flourishing
2026/09/30
In Episode #119 of The Executive Commute, Jayson Krause is joined by educator and human flourishing advocate Steve Rice to explore what it means to live, work, and lead from the inside out.
Steve shares how his own path moved from achievement, external validation, and a career that did not feel like an authentic fit toward a life centred on calling, purpose, and work as an expression of who he is. He describes the difference between living from the outside in and the inside out, and why fear often remains present when people move toward meaningful growth.
The conversation explores Steve's faith-informed view of human flourishing, including the shift from achieving to receiving, the role of spirituality and historical wisdom traditions, and his distinction between positional and possessional leadership. Jayson and Steve also examine how those ideas translate into organizations through human empowerment, spaces for ideas, and cultures that help people become more fully themselves.
They discuss the Office of Possibilities, Humanitas, disruptive innovation, and why new ideas may need to be built separately but in service to the larger organization. Steve also explains why human flourishing is not simply self-improvement, using the transformation from caterpillar to butterfly as a metaphor for becoming something fundamentally different rather than polishing the current version of yourself.
The episode closes by connecting human flourishing to AI and the future of work. Steve argues that technological progress should be paired with an equally intentional effort to rediscover what it means to be human, framing this moment as the beginning of a possible human revolution.
Episode timestamps:
00:02 Human flourishing, innovation, and humanpreneurship
00:31 Steve Rice's path to human flourishing
03:16 Learning to listen to your life
04:41 When work becomes joy
05:35 Is your work an expression of who you are?
07:59 Saying yes to a calling
09:58 Making fear your ally
12:39 Preparing people for an unknown future
14:00 Drawing out what is already inside people
16:14 Vertical versus horizontal living
17:49 Spirituality beyond religious language
20:13 The Office of Possibilities
22:47 Rediscovering desires beneath obligation
23:10 A practical 10-minute reflection practice
24:59 Achieving versus receiving
30:15 Agency, participation, and relationship
35:53 Positional versus possessional leadership
37:42 The personal and societal cost of outside-in living
39:25 When the vertical informs the horizontal
43:53 Human empowerment versus exploitation
45:40 Building an expression-driven culture
48:10 An Office of Possibilities inside an organization
49:16 Building a human flourishing academy
51:49 Why the work of flourishing is messy
54:53 Building innovation on the edge
57:35 Separate, but in service to the organization
59:16 What human flourishing actually means
1:03:46 Why a better version of yourself is not enough
1:07:03 Human flourishing and organizational flourishing
1:09:52 Will AI help or hinder human flourishing?
1:11:45 The business case for human flourishing
1:16:38 Exploitation versus expression
1:17:06 The human revolution
1:20:29 Where to learn more about Steve Rice
1:21:29 Leadership through the lens of human flourishing
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#118: Evil and Dark Leadership
2026/09/23
The conversation explores the difference between influence and manipulation, why dark leaders are often drawn to power, how "kiss up, kick down" behaviour can hide for years, and why organizational culture plays such a critical role. Ted also discusses what he calls dark-activated behaviour: people who may begin acting destructively when the culture rewards or tolerates it.
In Episode #118 of The Executive Commute, Jayson Krause is joined by industrial-organizational psychologist Dr. Ted Vokes for a deep examination of evil, the dark tetrad, and what dark leadership can look like inside organizations.
Ted breaks down four dark personality traits: narcissism, psychopathy, Machiavellianism, and sadism. He explains how these traits can show up in leaders who appear charming, capable, and impressive to those above them while exploiting, manipulating, intimidating, or destabilizing the people below them.
Jayson and Ted then move from recognition to response. They discuss how to protect yourself, set non-negotiable boundaries, contain damaging behaviour through clear expectations and behaviour management, and why organizations should act decisively when they have grounds to remove a toxic leader.
The episode closes with a more hopeful question: what protects leadership from becoming dark? Ted points to social and emotional intelligence, ego maturity, and the ability to be secure in your own power while making room for the power of others.
Episode timestamps:
00:00 Evil and dark traits in leadership
00:11 Ted's personal connection to dark leadership
03:47 Rethinking "hurt people hurt people"
08:24 Ted's background in industrial-organizational psychology
12:24 Understanding the dark tetrad
13:45 Narcissism
14:56 The dark, Goldilocks, and dazzling zones
19:15 Psychopathy
22:43 Psychopathy in executive roles
27:10 Why dark leadership can look delightful
28:15 Machiavellianism
29:43 Manipulation versus influence
31:47 Narcissistic theatre and self-serving causes
34:47 Machiavellianism in practice
37:54 Sadism
40:00 What workplace sadism can look like
44:23 How common dark traits may be
47:56 Culture as the antidote
49:00 Dark-activated behaviour
51:52 How culture can activate destructive behaviour
57:20 "What if I'm one of them?"
59:42 Working alongside a dark leader
1:03:00 Containment and behaviour management
1:06:39 Why not simply let them go?
1:08:04 The three outcomes of containment
1:11:00 Can people with dark traits change?
1:12:41 The worst advice for dealing with dark traits
1:16:52 Where the hope comes from
1:19:01 Boundaries are not negotiations
1:22:30 Where to learn more about Ted
1:23:37 The invisible force behind leadership success
1:27:27 Closing reflections
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#117: The Power of Questions
2026/09/16
In Episode #117 of The Executive Commute, Jayson Krause is joined by Level 52 coach and facilitator Chris Foy to explore the power of questions and why strong leadership often requires letting go of the need to have every answer.
Chris explains the shift many leaders must make after being promoted for their expertise: moving from the person who solves the problem to the leader who creates the conditions for other experts to think, decide, and grow. Questions can build agency, accountability, curiosity, and capability, but only when they come from genuine wonder rather than an attempt to steer someone toward a predetermined answer.
Jayson and Chris unpack the difference between high-impact questions and leading or "ninja" questions, why "what" often creates more exploration than "why," and when asking too many questions can actually undermine leadership. They also examine the role of clarity in crisis moments and situations where a leader simply needs to set direction.
Chris introduces the WATCH framework for stronger questions: Wonder, Accountability, Transformation, Challenge, and High Impact. The conversation also explores discovery listening, the danger of rescuing people or "stealing the lift," and the shift from problem solving to solution enabling.
Episode timestamps:
00:00 The power of questions
00:31 Chris Foy's path to leadership coaching
01:28 Why leaders need to ask more and answer less
03:16 Defining high-impact questions
03:50 Questions as a quest for understanding
04:48 Leading with wonder
07:00 Leading questions and micromanagement
08:44 From expert leader to leader of experts
10:03 The pressure to signal certainty
12:35 Good questions versus bad questions
14:19 Creating safety and agency
16:02 Helping people find their own answers
18:13 Rescuing people and stealing growth
20:33 What it means to "steal the lift"
23:46 Questions that activate growth
25:17 Why "what" can work better than "why"
26:10 Ninja questions and the need for clarity
27:42 Do more questions equal better leadership?
29:29 When too many questions hurt leadership
32:53 Great leaders do not have all the answers
35:09 Finding the right question before the answer
36:00 Leading outside your technical expertise
39:07 What makes a question hard?
40:43 Chris Foy's WATCH framework
42:00 The pause after a powerful question
43:35 Simple questions, significant impact
43:54 Challenge, discomfort, and ego
46:07 Smartest person or best question asker?
47:41 Problem solving versus solution enabling
48:41 Where leaders should start
50:01 Discovery listening
51:56 The worst advice about questions
53:05 Balancing questions with clear direction
54:05 Pushing the frontiers of your leadership
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#116: Coherence Is the Price of Being Trusted Under Pressure
2026/09/09
In Episode #116 of The Executive Commute, Jayson Krause is joined by Murray Rodgers, author of The Psychedelic CEO, for a conversation about coherence, internal fragmentation, and the inner state leaders carry into every room
Murray describes coherence as a state with less conflict between our thoughts, emotions, and actions. It is not simply calmness. It is the ability to stay present, anchored in what feels true, and responsive to what a moment actually requires.
Drawing from his own experience of career success, depression, psychedelic work, being fired from a company he founded, and a decade of deeper personal work, Murray explains how external achievement can coexist with internal fragmentation.
Jayson and Murray explore why leaders transmit their internal state to teams, how anger and anxiety can become signals worth listening to, why truth can carry real social and professional costs, and what it takes to reduce the noise that keeps us disconnected from ourselves.
They also examine the role of psychedelics, breath, integration, and presence in Murray's journey, along with a central leadership question: can you remain coherent in a fragmented or toxic environment without simply avoiding what needs to change?
Episode timestamps:
00:34 Coherence and personal scar tissue
01:08 What internal fragmentation feels like
02:30 The primary wound and the authentic self
04:04 The path to The Psychedelic CEO
07:53 Why leadership development misses the inner state
09:50 Finding the signal in the noise
11:06 Defining coherence
12:01 What coherence feels like
13:49 Friction, achievement, and inner peace
15:17 Transforming emotion through integration
16:06 What fragmented leaders do to teams
18:39 Anger, joy, and the inner dialogue
20:12 Psychedelics and self-knowledge
21:32 The work of integration
24:15 What people misunderstand about coherence
25:37 Truth and the cost of coherence
26:55 The golden column of being
27:47 Presence as coherence
29:52 When standing in truth costs you
31:05 Coherence and responsibility for impact
32:00 Being fired for taking a stand
34:29 Imposter syndrome and ignored parts of self
35:09 Recognizing the quieter voice
36:15 The grass is greener on the inside
37:28 Would you rather: coherence or shared values?
39:02 Can you stay coherent in a toxic culture?
40:48 When coherence becomes ineffective
42:17 How to know you need more coherence
43:57 The simplest practice: breathe differently
45:13 What coherence feels like in practice
46:55 What coherent communities make possible
48:10 The worst advice about coherence
49:15 Less noise, more space
50:54 Slowing down to find the signal
52:31 The invisible force behind leadership success
53:55 Where to find Murray
Learn more about Murray Rodgers: www.thepsychedelicceo.com
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#115 The Best Leadership Lessons From My Summer Conversations
2026/09/03
It's been a busy summer at Level 52. Rather than publishing our regular August newsletter, we spent the month recording conversations for The Executive Commute podcast with leaders, entrepreneurs and coaches who challenged my thinking in unexpected ways.
Some conversations confirmed things I believed. Others completely overturned them.
This month's newsletter is a collection of ideas I haven't been able to shake.
#114: Leading When Nothing Is Certain
2026/08/20
In Episode #114 of The Executive Commute, Jayson Krause is joined by Cathie Saroka, Level 52 Coach and Facilitator and CEO of Goldray Glass, for a conversation about leading through uncertainty without carrying the weight alone.
Cathie has spent decades leading through recessions, business volatility, personal challenges, the pandemic, and constant change. Her experience has taught her that strong leadership in uncertain times is not about projecting certainty or having every answer. It is about building a team that can think, challenge, adapt, and solve problems together.
Jayson and Cathie explore why uncertainty creates fear and unproductive stories, how leaders can create clarity without pretending to know what comes next, and why values, trust, collaboration, and scenario planning become critical when information is incomplete.
They also examine the danger of theatrical certainty, the difference between composure and competence, why leaders need to make decisions with minimal viable information, and how to create an environment where people feel safe enough to surface the ideas and concerns that leaders need to hear.
Episode timestamps:
00:52 The myth of leading through uncertainty alone
03:12 Building a company in constant uncertainty
06:29 Choosing what deserves your focus
08:52 Cathie's experience as a "wartime CEO"
09:43 Leading Goldray Glass through the pandemic
12:20 What worked and what Cathie would change
14:28 Defining leadership through uncertainty
17:20 Creating conditions for adaptability
18:14 When following the plan becomes the problem
24:15 The danger of theatrical certainty
25:45 Cathie's biggest leadership mistake
29:02 Trusting your gut under pressure
30:21 What leaders misunderstand about control
33:08 Warning signs a leader is struggling
35:07 Scenario planning through best, worst, and likely outcomes
39:19 Building the team before uncertainty arrives
45:04 Composure, transparency, and vulnerability
47:56 Making decisions with minimal viable information
50:56 Using values to make decisions in chaos
54:13 Why the team matters more than having all the answers
59:56 Cathie's final lesson for leaders
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#113: Resilience Is Not Toughing It Out
2026/08/05
In Episode #113 of The Executive Commute, Jayson Krause is joined by Level 52 coach and facilitator Lara Koretsky for an honest exploration of resilience, adversity, and growth.
Resilience is often described as the ability to bounce back or keep pushing when life becomes difficult. Lara challenges that definition. True resilience is not about returning to who you were before adversity or ignoring the toll it has taken. It is the ability to learn, adapt, recover, and create something stronger from the experience.
Drawing from profound personal loss, family challenges, burnout, career transitions, and years of developing leaders, Lara explains why resilience is not a fixed personality trait. It is a capacity that can be strengthened.
Jayson and Lara explore the five pillars of resilience, the difference between grit and grind, why workplaces often reward the wrong behaviours, and how perseverance can become toxic when it causes people to tolerate the intolerable.
They also examine an important leadership tension: how do you challenge people to grow without rescuing them, overwhelming them, or carrying their backpack for them?
Episode timestamps:
00:00 What resilience really is
00:40 Lara's experience with adversity
01:51 Resilience is a muscle
02:23 Lessons from Lara's father
03:24 Medical assistance in dying
04:21 Creativity through grief
06:21 Lara's career journey
08:58 Feeling least resilient
10:10 Learning from rejected feedback
11:19 The kintsugi metaphor
13:35 Moving beyond "bouncing back"
15:19 Owning your role in adversity
16:35 Defining resilience
16:45 Why grinding through is not resilience
17:31 Choosing where to persist
19:30 Recovery creates growth
20:13 Myths about resilience
21:09 When organizations reward burnout
23:28 Why leaders wait until it is too late
25:22 Building resilience proactively
25:31 The five pillars of resilience
29:09 Humour versus avoidance
30:29 Stealing opportunities for growth
31:38 Do not carry someone else's backpack
34:04 Choosing hope
35:22 Choice within resilience
35:57 The downside of resilience
37:47 Can resilience prevent growth?
40:58 Toxic perseverance
42:18 Grit versus grind
43:11 Knowing when to keep going
44:24 Strategic quitting
45:22 Organizational responsibility for resilience
46:08 Expanding people's capacity
47:50 Workload and real priorities
49:03 Why recovery is essential
49:29 Resilience and stress exposure
50:58 Training adaptability
51:50 How organizations create fragility
53:37 Hiring for resilience
54:48 Where leaders should begin
56:29 The worst resilience advice
56:45 The key lesson
57:09 Writing your resilience story
59:03 Stepping into the real work
60:00 Closing reflections
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#112: How Transparent Leaders Build Trust in Tough Times
2026/07/29
In Episode #112 of The Executive Commute, Jayson Krause is joined by experienced entrepreneur, former CEO, and TEC Canada Chair Mark Terrill for a candid conversation about transparency in leadership.
They explore why transparency is essential for building trust, particularly during difficult periods, and why employees create their own explanations when leaders fail to communicate clearly.
Mark also explains why effective transparency does not mean sharing everything. Leaders must balance openness with confidentiality, timing, focus, and empathy. When handled poorly, transparency can become oversharing, venting, or an overload of information that creates more fear than alignment.
This episode will challenge you to consider what your team needs to hear, what you may be withholding, and how more intentional communication could strengthen your leadership.
Episode timestamps:
00:00 Can a leader become more transparent?
01:13 The cost of holding back
06:43 Why transparency builds trust
09:45 Transparency versus full disclosure
11:47 Mark's leadership journey
22:14 What transparency really means
26:22 Why openness is mistaken for weakness
31:04 What breaks when transparency is missing
31:54 Leading transparently through tough times
34:04 The illusion of transparency
36:55 Becoming a more transparent leader
37:48 Mark's greatest moment of self-doubt
42:10 Spotting a lack of transparency
44:42 Advanced transparency
49:03 The dark side of transparency
52:00 Transparency versus venting
54:04 The transparency paradox
56:01 When total transparency becomes harmful
58:21 Getting transparency right
61:37 Can transparency reduce honesty?
64:09 Damaging transparency advice
65:37 Can transparent leaders fail?
66:43 The importance of pivoting quickly
68:38 Final takeaway
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#111: The Practice of Curiosity and Why Leaders Default to Certainty
2026/07/22
A 360-degree review told Tyler Chisholm exactly what was wrong with his leadership: he filled every room, jumped to conclusions, and never let his team finish a sentence. His team had stopped contributing. They were just waiting to be told what to do.
In this episode of The Executive Commute, Jayson Krause talks with Tyler Chisholm, CEO and author of Curious as Hell, about the moment that feedback forced him to rebuild how he leads. Tyler unpacks the difference between the leader he was in the boardroom and the host he'd become on his own podcast, and how closing that gap turned curiosity from a personality trait into a daily discipline. They get into where curiosity actually helps, where it gets weaponized into control, and what it takes to build a team that feels safe enough to think out loud.
They cover:
The feedback that forced a leadership reset Curiosity as a practice, not a trait: self, relational, and strategic curiosity How questions get weaponized to control instead of learning Where curiosity fails (and command and control takes over) A simple tool for pausing before you react What actually predicts whether a leader succeeds or fails If your meetings go quiet the moment you start talking, this one's worth the full hour.
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0:00 - Introduction
0:41 - The 360 Review That Changed His Leadership
3:43 - What Changed When "Podcast Tyler" Led Meetings
6:00 - Tracking Fixed vs. Growth Mindset After Every Call
8:41 - From Playful Trait to Deliberate Practice
10:05 - Why Tyler Wrote Curious as Hell
13:21 - Writing in Flow: AI as Collaborator
15:50 - The Self Curiosity the Book Forced to the Surface
17:31 - Defining Curiosity as a Leadership Practice
19:16 - The "No Time to Be Curious" Myth
22:03 - The Latin Root of Curiosity
28:44 - Weaponizing Curiosity
29:39 - Isn't a Leader's Job to Manipulate?
37:18 - Self Curiosity Comes First
39:19 - When Curiosity Isn't the Right Tool
42:17 - The Tactical Sigh
45:08 - Would You Rather: Curious vs. Safe to Be Curious Around
46:34 - Creating the Conditions for Curiosity
49:13 - The Nuclear Button
52:06 - The Cost of Reacting Instead of Leading
53:00 - True or False: Questions and Culture Health
56:02 - The Worst Advice About Curiosity
57:31 - "Tell Me More": Curious vs. Diagnostic Questions
59:38 - How to Know Curiosity Is Missing
1:02:42 - Know When to Call a Coach
1:04:51 - The Invisible Force Behind Leadership Success
1:06:26 - Closing Thoughts
#110: Your Empathy Might Be Making You a Worse Leader
2026/07/22
Empathy gets treated like a personality trait: you either have it or you don't. Roxana Radulescu, Level 52 coach and facilitator, argues that's wrong. It's a muscle, and most leaders are either overusing it, avoiding it, or using it to avoid the hard conversation instead of having it.
In this episode of The Executive Commute, Jayson Krause talks with Roxana about what empathy actually is (her definition: care plus trust), what it isn't (sympathy, agreement, an excuse to skip feedback), and where it goes wrong at the top of organizations. They dig into a Yale psychologist's argument that empathy fuels bias and tribalism, why holding more power tends to erode it, and whether "care first" leadership is a real strategy or just a nicer way to describe layoffs.
They cover:
- Empathy defined: care plus trust, not sympathy
- The line between empathy and judgment
- The case against empathy: bias, favoritism, and in-group tribalism
- Why power erodes empathy (and what that means for executives)
- Empathy's role in high-stakes, high-performance teams
- A simple starting point for building the empathy muscle
If you've ever held back a hard conversation because you "didn't want to make it worse," or wondered whether empathy and high standards can coexist, this conversation will change how you think about both.
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0:00 - Introduction
0:34 - How Roxana Became a Coach
1:28 - Coaching a Room Full of Experts
2:39 - What Qualifies Someone to Talk About Empathy
4:55 - Defining Empathy: Care Plus Trust
7:39 - Empathy Mapping and the Right Use of Empathy
10:07 - The Opposite of Empathy: Arrogance and Judgment
11:06 - Judgment vs. Appraisal
12:25 - The Case Against Empathy (Paul Bloom)
13:56 - When a Leader Has Too Much Empathy
16:09 - Balancing Empathy With Getting Things Done
21:08 - Naming the Emotion in the Room
23:52 - What Matters More Than Empathy: Feedback
27:14 - What Is Self-Empathy?
28:06 - True or False: Does Promoting Empathetic Leaders Spread Empathy?
29:00 - Power and the Erosion of Empathy
31:08 - "Care First" Leadership vs. Corporate Doublespeak
32:16 - Empathy in the Face of Layoffs
35:02 - The Real Roots of the Word Empathy
36:09 - True or False: Are Women Wired to Be More Empathetic?
38:10 - True or False: Does Empathy Lead to Fairer Decisions?
41:20 - Empathy in High-Performance Environments
42:53 - Can You Have Connection Without Empathy?
45:02 - Would You Rather: Deep Empathy for Your Circle vs. Moderate Empathy for All
49:09 - The Cost of Carrying Empathy
50:40 - A Real Example: Giving Feedback With Empathy
52:16 - Empathy as a Muscle: Where to Start
54:24 - The Worst Advice About Bringing Empathy to Leadership
56:26 - Closing Thought
#109 MML What does high performance actually look like?
2026/07/02
Welcome to The Meaningful Leader — July Edition.
This month, we're looking at the invisible forces that shape how leaders and teams actually perform: the standards we fail to define, the belonging we misunderstand, the thinking environments we create, and the warning lights we ignore.
Three of this month's sections were sparked by great conversations I had on The Executive Commute with Level 52 coach and facilitator - Jessica Heafey, Flow state advisor - Dr. Murray Heber, and author of Reality Check - Dr. Tianne Foster. Links to each full discussion are below.
https://www.level52.ca/podcast-linktree
But the thread running through all of them is simple: meaningful leadership is not built by using better words. It's built by confronting what those words actually require.
High performance. Belonging. Flow. Burnout.
We throw these terms around like their meanings are obvious. They're not. And when leaders don't define them clearly, teams are left guessing, pretending, protecting, or quietly drifting.
Let's get into it.
#108: Why Burnout Isn't a Workload Problem
2026/07/02
Most leaders think burnout comes from too much work. So they respond with wellness programs, lighter workloads, and lunch hour yoga. Then nothing changes.
In this episode of The Executive Commute, Jayson Krause sits down with Dr. Tianne Foster, physician, burnout researcher, and author of Reality Check, to unpack what actually drives burnout and why most organizations are solving the wrong problem.
Trained across Canada, the US, and the UK, Dr. Foster became obsessed with burnout after a senior physician told her entire class to get out of medicine while they still could. Her conclusion: burnout isn't an individual weakness. It's a mismatch between people and the environment they work in, and it starts with leadership.
In this episode:
The six workplace factors that drive burnout (workload is only one of them) Why nurses turn down pay raises in toxic workplaces, and what that means for retention How to tell the difference between burnout, depression, and a hard season Why treating burnout as an individual problem lets organizations off the hook The Yale finding that high engagement scores can be an early warning, not a win The petri dish question every leader should ask about their culture If your best people are running on fumes and your wellness budget isn't moving the needle, this conversation explains what's actually happening and where to intervene.
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0:00 - "Get Out While You Still Can": The Story That Started It All
3:15 - Why Trust Dr. Foster on Burnout
7:38 - The Six Workplace Factors That Drive Burnout
10:16 - Compensation, Fairness, and Why Raises Don't Fix Toxic Workplaces
13:38 - Defining Burnout (and How It Differs From Depression)
15:25 - Stress vs. Burnout: What People Get Wrong
17:28 - The Noonday Demon: Burnout as a Collapse of Meaning
19:51 - The Petri Dish: How Burnout Spreads Through Organizations
22:15 - Growth Requires Stress: The Weight Room Analogy
25:32 - Should Burnout Be a Medical Diagnosis?
28:31 - Jayson's Own Brush With Burnout
31:53 - The Superhero Persona (and Its Kryptonite)
34:53 - Why Wellness Programs Fail
37:40 - Would You Rather: $1M Wellness Budget or Fire One Leader?
39:27 - True or False: Burnout Myths (and a Yale Surprise)
44:48 - High Achievement Without Sacrifice: Know Your Values
48:13 - First Signs of Burnout and the Simplest Way Back
Podcast reviews
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Soquel Clyde 2019/02/25
Pulls me out of the day to day
Love the bit size chunks. Takes me out of the day to day issues and helps me to zoom out and see a bigger picture. Thanks
danabiz 2019/01/31
Executive insight
Jayson is a top executive coach and he provides insights that most people pay big bucks for!
Steve_dudley 2019/01/29
Something I’ve been wanting for years!
I can’t tell you how long I’ve been waiting to hear real executive stories, from real executives. Thank you Jayson, my commute just got better.
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