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Hang out with Cantor Matt and Cantor Penny as they enjoy a couple of drinks and chat about current issues facing clergy and their roles as Jewish community leaders. They joke and banter in a spontaneous and unscripted discussion. Pull up a barstool and join the conversation!

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Episode 29: The Funeral Episode

2026/01/30

Matt & Penny talk about the crazy things that have happened to them while officiating at the many funerals over the course of their careers.

Episode 28: Perils on the Pulpit

2025/06/13

Matt & Penny talk about the VERY WORST THINGS that have happened to them while serving on the pulpit. Not for the squeamish!

Episode 27: Jew in the Pew

2024/03/05

Matt & Penny discuss what it's like attending synagogue as "regular people" and what services feel like when you're participating along with everyone else.

Episode 26: A Pioneer in the Field

2022/05/19

Matt & Penny sit down with Cantor Barbara Ostfeld, the first woman to be ordained as a cantor in Jewish history, and talk about her experiences and journey that led her to be a pioneer in our profession.

Episode 25: Using Language to be More Inclusive

2022/03/15

Matt & Penny discuss how to make familiar prayers and blessings more inclusive for everyone, and how gender roles can serve become an obstacle.

Episode 24: The South American President

2022/01/11

Matt & Penny return to the bar and sit down with Cantor/Rabbi Luis Cattan, the current president of the Cantors Assembly. Together they talk about the challenges of his coming to this country and his experiences that prepared him to take on the presidency.

Episode 23: Training Your Cantor

2021/10/14

Matt & Penny talk with Cantor Nancy Abramson, the director of the Cantorial School at JTS, about the state of modern cantorial education and how things have changed over the years.

Episode 22: Changing the Way We Look at B‘nai Mitzvah

2021/10/07

Matt & Penny shamelessly plug Matt's latest book while talking about why the b'nei mitzvah process has remained unchanged for generations and what could be changed.

Episode 21: Emerging from the Pandemic

2021/06/02

Matt & Penny talk about taking their first steps out of the pandemic and what changes from the past year that they'd like to keep.

Episode 20: Meet the Spouses!

2021/01/24

Matt & Penny welcome their spouses Dr. Tali Axelrod and Dr. Bennett Myers who share their experiences of what it's like being married to a cantor. Also available as a video episode HERE.

Episode 19: A Tale of Two Titles

2021/01/17

Matt & Penny talk with Rabbi/Cantor Hillary Chorny about the increasingly common trend of colleagues earning both rabbinical and cantorial degrees. Also available as a video episode HERE.

Episode 18: New Year's Resolutions

2021/01/11

Matt & Penny talk about their New Year's resolutions and how best to continue their professional lives while dealing with the pandemic. Also available as a video episode HERE.

Episode 17: Making an Impression with Jim Meskimen

2020/06/03

Matt & Penny sit down with master impressionist Jim Meskimen for some hilarious takes on synagogue life. Also available as a video episode HERE.

Episode 16: B'nei Mitzvah in the Age of Pandemic

2020/05/08

Matt & Penny continue their social distancing and enjoy drinks remotely as they talk about how their congregations' bar and bat mitzvah ceremonies have adapted and evolved under the new situation. Also posted as a video episode HERE.

Episode 15: Quarantined!

2020/04/28

Matt & Penny are forced to share a drink remotely as they talk about how the "new normal" has affected their congregations. Also posted as a video episode HERE.