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Helping Couples Heal Podcast

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★★★★★
4.7
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99 episodes
Language
English
Explicit
Yes
Date created
2019/05/08
Latest episode
2026/01/22
Average duration
45 min.
Release period
19 days

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Welcome to the Helping Couples Heal podcast. If you have lost hope around healing your relationship due to infidelity, relational or betrayal trauma you have come to the right place. Helping Couples Heal is an ongoing podcast designed to help couples recover and heal from the impact of betrayal trauma on their relationships. We cumulatively bring over two decades of experience and expertise in the field of betrayal. Throughout this podcast series, we will offer resources and support and teach you the tools and skills necessary to heal your relationship. You will also hear from recovered addicts, partners, and couples who will share their stories, as well as from experts in the field of betrayal. With compassion, love and fierce commitment, we will guide you and walk beside you as you navigate this journey of recovery, hope, and healing. Thank you for inviting us into your world; we are honored to support you.

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98. The Long Road Back: One Couple's Journey Through Betrayal
2026/01/22
In this episode, Marnie sits down with Scott and Laura, a couple who courageously share their journey of healing after betrayal. What followed Scott’s infidelity was not a quick fix or a straight path forward, but years marked by pain, rupture, and a slow, non-linear process of rebuilding trust and connection. Together, Scott and Laura reflect on the early days after discovery - when fear, confusion, and disconnection felt overwhelming - and the hard truths they had to face along the way. Laura speaks openly about her struggle with boundaries and the painful realization that she had been tolerating more than she should have. Scott shares vulnerably about his own abandonment wounds, how they fueled a sense of righteousness, and the moment he recognized he was expecting Laura to carry pain that was his to heal. They discuss the concrete steps that helped shift their relationship, including Scott joining a men’s group, learning to take responsibility for his emotional world, and the transformative impact of Imago dialogue. They also explore the power of couples recovery check-ins and the clarity that emerged through Laura’s second impact letter. This conversation offers a hopeful and grounded look at what it takes to move from living in fear and survival to standing side-by-side in honesty, accountability, and connection. For anyone navigating the aftermath of betrayal trauma, this episode is a reminder that while healing is hard, it is possible. Connect with us: Book a free 15-minute consultation call here.
97. Navigating Betrayal Anger with Dr. Crystal Hollenbeck
2026/01/13
In this episode of the Helping Couples Heal podcast, Marnie sits down with Dr. Crystal Hollenbeck, a therapist, trauma survivor, and author of Betrayal Trauma Anger: You’re Not Crazy, You’re Angry, and You Should Be. They explore a topic that is often misunderstood and shamed: the intense and very normal anger experienced by betrayed partners after betrayal. For too long, the clinical field has labeled this anger as “vengeful” or “unforgiving.” Crystal helps us flip that narrative, showing why anger is a natural, healthy response to the profound injustice of betrayal and an important part of the healing journey. In this episode, you will hear about: Why anger is a natural response and how betrayal creates deep emotional and nervous system reactionsThe S.C.I.P. Protocol, Crystal’s 4-step tool, Sit down, Calm down, Identify, and Process, for navigating triggersAnger on the brain and why it is impossible to reason through a trigger when the amygdala is hijackedReframing for the partner who betrayed and how accountability, consistency, and presence can reduce ongoing angerMoving toward repair and how seeing anger as a signal of wounding rather than a flaw supports connection and empathy By reframing anger as a signal of wounding rather than a character flaw, couples can move from defensiveness to empathy, and from shame to true repair. Click here to download Dr. Crystal Hollenbeck’s S.C.I.P. Protocol. Click here to purchase Dr. Crystal Hollenbeck’s book, Betrayal Trauma Anger: You’re Not Crazy, You’re Angry, and You Should Be. Want to connect with us? Click here to book your free 15-minute call.
96. Beyond Words: How Friends and Family Can Truly Support Betrayed Partners
2025/12/24
In this deeply moving episode of the Helping Couples Heal podcast, Marnie is joined by four courageous women (Sabra, Ally, Liz, and Rachel) who vulnerably share their personal experiences navigating the aftermath of betrayal. Together, they explore a critical but often overlooked aspect of the healing journey: the complex role of friends and family. The group discusses the universal need for external support and the painful reality that loved ones often don't know what to say or how to show up effectively. From the impulse to retreat and isolate to the trauma of being judged by those closest to them, these women highlight the delicate balance between needing a "safe place to land" and requiring firm boundaries to protect their own healing process. Key topics in this conversation include: The Grey Area of Discovery: Why betrayed partners often withdraw from social circles while trying to make sense of their shattered reality.The Burden of the Fixer: How the well-intentioned advice of friends, like telling a partner to just leave, can often add to the trauma rather than alleviate it.Connection with Boundaries: Defining what safe support looks like, from the power of a meal train to the simple, profound act of sitting in silence.The Role of Support Groups: How finding a community of others who get it becomes a lifeline when family and friends fall short. Whether you are currently navigating betrayal trauma or you are a loved one seeking to support someone you care about, this episode provides essential insights into moving from judgment to empathy and from isolation to authentic connection. Download the Do's and Don'ts Guide for Family & Friends here! Want to connect with us? Click here to schedule your free 15-minute call.
95. The Ten Core Wounds of Betrayal
2025/12/10
When betrayal enters a relationship, it doesn’t just break trust - it fractures a person’s sense of self, safety, and connection. In this episode, we explore the ten core wounds that betrayed partners often experience, each one carrying its own story and its own emotional truth: Worthiness Wound – “I’m not enough.”Safety Wound – “I’m not safe.”Reality Wound – “I can’t trust myself.”Control Wound – “I have to manage everything.”Belonging Wound – “I’m alone in this.”Burden Wound – “I have to carry everything.”Abandonment Wound – “You’ll leave me.”Inadequacy Wound – “I’m not as good as what I was betrayed with.”Powerlessness Wound – “I didn’t have a choice.”Trust Wound – “Trust is dangerous.” Each wound reveals a different layer of the emotional devastation betrayal creates - and each one shapes how betrayed partners think, feel, and try to protect themselves in the aftermath. In this episode, Marnie breaks down what these wounds look like in real life, how they impact day-to-day interactions, and why healing them requires understanding, patience, and consistent repair. We also talk directly to betrayers, offering a compassionate but honest framework for recognizing the impact of their actions and supporting their partner’s healing journey. This episode is an invitation to move beyond surface reactions and into the deeper emotional landscape of betrayal - where clarity, empathy, and repair become possible. This episode is an invitation to move beyond surface reactions and into the deeper emotional landscape of betrayal - where clarity, empathy, and repair become possible. Click here to download your free worksheet. This worksheet walks both partners through all ten wounds, helping identify which ones are active, how they’re showing up, and what healing might require. Want to connect with us? Click here to schedule your free 15-minute call. Visit our website to learn more about Empowered at Sea and Empowered on Land.
94. Finding The Way Through with Jeanne Vattuone and Tim Stein
2025/11/04
In this episode, Marnie sits down with two of her colleagues from Northern California, Jeanne Vattuone and Tim Stein to talk about Finding The Way Through, their new workbook designed to integrate sobriety, recovery, and betrayed partner sensitivity into the healing process. Purchase the workbook Finding the Way Through: A Workbook for Sex and Pornography Addiction here! Click here to join The Healing Room. Want to connect? Click here to book your free 15-minute call.
93. Unscripted Truths: A Candid Conversation with Dr. Omar Minwalla
2025/10/20
In what was originally intended to be a structured discussion on “The Ten Steps to Constructing the Secret Sexual Basement,” this episode took an unexpected and deeply personal turn. Instead, I’m joined by Dr. Omar Minwalla for a raw, unfiltered conversation that traces the arc of our individual and shared professional journeys. What unfolds is a rare, intimate glimpse into the foundation of a long-standing friendship - one built on mutual respect, hard truths, and a shared commitment to integrity, even when it’s uncomfortable or controversial. We talk openly about what it means to stay committed to telling the truth, to each other and to the work, despite pushback or disagreement. This was never meant to be a public conversation - but by the end, we both felt that what emerged was too meaningful not to share. I believe listeners will find resonance, insight, and maybe even a sense of companionship and loyalty in the honesty of this exchange. Dr. Minwalla will be back soon and hopefully next time we’ll get to the secret basement. Until then, this is something different… and maybe more important. Want to connect with us? Schedule your free 15-minute call here.
92. Honoring Your Grief Without Letting It Define You
2025/10/06
In this episode of the Helping Couples Heal podcast, Marnie explores the delicate balance of grief and hope in couples working to heal after betrayal. She shares why grief must be honored - not rushed, bypassed, or minimized - and how acknowledging the depth of loss is an essential step toward authentic healing. At the same time, Marnie reminds us that grief does not have to define your whole story. By integrating grief into the narrative of your relationship, you create space for resilience, growth, and new possibilities. This episode offers a compassionate invitation to couples: you can carry grief and hope side by side, honoring what was lost while also making room for what can still be built. Schedule your free 15-minute call Want more information on our Workshops? Click Here.  Get your free reflection guide to go along with this episode here! 
91. Still Becoming: Chandler Rogers on Recovery, Marriage, and Growth (Part 2)
2025/09/08
In this continuation of our conversation with Chandler Rogers, we dive deeper into his journey of recovery from pornography addiction and the ongoing challenges of healing within his marriage. Chandler shares honestly about what it means to keep showing up in the work of recovery—not just for himself, but for his relationship—and how hope can grow even in the midst of setbacks.  We also explore Chandler’s powerful decision to create Relay, an app designed to fill in the gaps he saw in traditional recovery support. Relay was born out of his own experience and the recognition that people struggling with addiction need consistent accountability, connection, and encouragement outside of therapy or group sessions. Chandler's story is an important reminder that Recovery is ongoing. Healing from porn and sex addiction isn’t a one-time choice—it’s a daily practice of showing up for yourself and your relationship. This episode offers inspiration, practical insight, and a reminder that healing—both personally and in a marriage—is possible when we’re willing to reach for support and keep leaning into growth. Want to Learn more about Relay? Click here Connect with us by booking a free 15-minute call!
90. From Regression to Repair: Continuing the Conversation with Jon Lee
2025/08/26
In this follow-up conversation with therapist and author Jon Lee, we continue our deep dive into emotional regression and its profound impact on couples recovering from betrayal. Building on the foundation we laid in Part 1, Jon and I explore how regression shows up in relationships—when intense pain, fear, or shame pulls partners back into younger emotional states that can feel overwhelming and destabilizing. We discuss the ways regression complicates communication, trust-building, and repair, and how it can create cycles of disconnection even when both partners desperately want to heal. Jon offers clinical insight and compassionate strategies for recognizing regression in real time, staying grounded, and learning how to respond to one another with empathy instead of reactivity. Whether you’re a betrayed partner, a person working to rebuild integrity, or a couple navigating the aftermath together, this episode provides tools and perspective to help you move toward connection rather than getting stuck in regressed patterns. Want to connect with us? Click here to book a free 15-minute call.
89. Relapse, Repair, and Growth with Chandler Rogers (part 1)
2025/07/29
In this episode of the Helping Couples Heal podcast, Marnie sits down with Chandler Rogers, a recovering porn addict and the founder of Relay, a group-based recovery app designed to support those on their healing journey. Chandler shares his personal story of seeking help for his addiction long before it was discovered—a rare and powerful experience that sheds light on the strength it takes to face the truth head-on. He opens up about the vulnerability it required to be honest with his now-wife early in their relationship, the ups and downs of recovery, and the reality that honesty doesn’t erase the ongoing struggles. Chandler reflects on moments of setback, the weight of shame, and the vital role that connection, accountability, and personal ownership have played not only in his healing but also in inspiring him to create a community where others can find hope and support. Also, be sure to catch Marnie's conversation with Scott and Susan Rankin just before the podcast starts about the HCH Online Couples Community, a supportive space designed for deep connection and healing, opening its doors to a small group of couples this September. Click here to schedule your free 15-minute call
88. Sober Doesn't Mean Safe
2025/07/03
In this episode, Marnie unpacks a critical truth in the betrayal recovery process: sexual sobriety is not the same as relational healing. In other words, just because the acting out has stopped doesn’t mean the relationship is safe or healing. In fact, ongoing emotional / integrity abuse can re-traumatize a betrayed partner.  Marnie explores why emotional sobriety is just as essential as sexual sobriety, and what it really takes to rebuild trust and connection after betrayal. A betrayed partner needs emotional safety, not just behavioral changes. Trust isn’t rebuilt by abstinence — it’s rebuilt by transparency, accountability, and empathy. Simply stopping problematic sexual behaviors (porn, affairs, acting out) does not address the underlying relational damage caused by betrayal. True healing involves rebuilding the foundation of the relationship. If you've ever said or heard "But I'm sober...”, this conversation is for you.
87. Growing Yourself Back Up: Understanding Emotional Regression with author John Lee
2025/06/10
In this powerful and eye-opening conversation, Marnie sits down with renowned author and therapist John Lee, whose classic book Growing Yourself Back Up has helped thousands understand the profound impact of emotional regression on adult relationships.  Together, we explore what emotional regression is and how it silently shapes our reactions, the difference between responding as an empowered adult vs. a wounded child, and how identifying your own triggers and patterns of regression can create healthier relationships. We introduce practical tools for recognizing when you’ve been “emotionally hijacked” and how to avoid relational ruptures in those moments. Perhaps most important, we discuss the importance of developing the necessary awareness and compassion that can break cycles of blame, withdrawal, fighting, and relational despair.  If you’ve ever wondered why certain moments with your partner (or any loved ones) trigger outsize reactions or why the wounds of betrayal take over in the heat of conflict - this conversation is for you. Learning how to spot and shift emotional regression is one of the most empowering skills we can develop—for ourselves and our relationships. Buy John's book Growing Yourself Back Up Here! Purchase The Anger Solution Master Class Here!
86. Empowered at Sea with Marnie and Maddie
2025/05/22
In this episode of the Helping Couples Heal podcast, Marnie talks with betrayal trauma coach and actress Maddie Corman to explore the profound power of community in the healing journey. Maddie opens up about the importance of not going through pain alone, and how finding connection with others can be a lifeline during life’s most difficult moments. We also discuss the Empowered at Sea retreat, a transformative experience designed to support, uplift, empower, and inspire. Join us for a heartfelt conversation about resilience, support, and the courage to heal together. Learn more about Empowered at Sea: https://helpingcouplesheal.com/empowered-at-sea/
85. Betrayed: Who Helps Him Heal?
2025/05/13
In this deeply honest and compassionate episode, Betrayal Trauma Coach, Therapist, and Certified Sex Addiction Therapist (CSAT) Adam Nisenson shares his personal journey through the heartbreak of being betrayed by his now ex-wife—and how that experience transformed both his life and his work. Now the founder of betrayalshrink.com, Adam offers vital support and resources for men navigating the aftermath of infidelity. We explore the raw realities of male betrayal trauma, the often-overlooked emotional toll it takes, and how men can begin to reclaim their sense of self and safety. Adam also discusses his powerful book, A Man’s Guide to Partner Betrayal: Overcoming the Pain & Repercussions of a Cheating Partner, offering practical guidance and insight for those ready to begin healing. This conversation is a lifeline for anyone walking the lonely road of betrayal—and a testament to the resilience of the human heart. Betrayal Shrink Website: betrayalshrink.com Check out Adam’s book: https://a.co/d/fdk7BMI Take the MBT (Masculine Betrayal Trauma) Recovery Assessment: betrayalshrink.com/mbt-assesment
84. Bridge to Connection: A Pathway to Healing and Relational Growth
2025/05/07
In this episode, Marnie, Ilyse, and Luke sit down to share an inside look at Bridge to Connection—Helping Couples Heal’s 5-week online group coaching program designed specifically for couples navigating the painful aftermath of betrayal.  Together, they explore how couples can benefit from ongoing structure, a slower pace than a workshop, and the opportunity to process what they’re learning between sessions.  They also emphasize how community is key; being with other couples who truly get it—is not only comforting, but vital to the healing process. This conversation dives into the heart of what makes Bridge such an impactful program: a potent blend of expert-led psychoeducation, exponential growth through powerful coaching, and the intimacy and dynamics of the group.  Through weekly 90-minute coaching calls and access to thoughtfully crafted on-demand video lessons, couples are supported in understanding the core issues driving disconnection and begin to rebuild safety, trust, and emotional intimacy. They encourage listeners to consider how they learn and heal best, and to recognize that rebuilding after betrayal requires more than insight—it requires support, connection, and intention. The next Bridge to Connection cohort begins June 2nd.  If you’re ready to feel less alone and more equipped to face what’s ahead—together—this could be the next best step.  To learn more or to register, reach out to us at [email protected]

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4.7 out of 5
437 reviews
★★★★★
Maxarino87 2025/12/11
Life changing
This podcast is life-changing. I am a therapist myself, and abuse survivor, and I cannot tell you how hard it has been to find clinicians that get thi...
★★★★★
kdmmsw 2025/09/13
Words
Marnie gives words to the unspeakable experiences of both the betrayed partner and the addict. The framework she works from helps each person make sen...
★★★★★
Angie5624 2025/07/09
First-rate information and compassion
Unbelievable that such a spot-on, helpful source of information and validation exists. Not just an incredible tool for couples dealing with betrayal t...
★★★★★
annietags 2025/02/25
I feel safe here
I’m a podcast junky and there is a lot of misleading information out there. Some of it damaging. If you’re like me and cannot afford therapy and ther...
★★★★★
Livswhen 2024/12/06
Stitching us back together
Highly recommended. Thank you for providing the support we needed to stitch us back together.
★★★★★
Ajm37MT 2024/12/05
This podcast speaks to me
I am so grateful that I found this podcast! I especially loved Dr. Minnwala’s interviews. He has hit the nail on the head. Thank you for having him on...
★★★★★
jjhawq 2024/10/03
Very helpful!! Great insight!!
Very helpful podcast. I can’t thank you enough!!
★★★★★
TealCoffeeMug 2024/09/26
Thank you
This podcast is very helpful. I find it a bit frustrating to hear often that everyone needs a therapist however. Are we the only ones who cannot affor...
★★★★★
3 years into this journey 2024/03/22
They Get It!!!!
I just can not believe that a podcast could put my feelings into words so well!!!! I’m only about 6 episodes in and I can not tell you how many times...
★★★★★
AJFCNM 2024/03/15
Highly Recommend
This podcast is so helpful in affirming and naming the experience I have had and the feelings I have encountered through betrayal trauma. Knowing what...
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