The Obvious Choice

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503 episodes
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Date created
2019/06/12
Latest episode
2025/07/11
Average duration
19 min.
Release period
8 days

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Forget becoming an influencer. This podcast is for people searching for a simpler way to make more money, help more people, and have more freedom. No matter who you are and no matter what you sell, your customer is a human. And yet, marketing these days feels so (in)human. Filled with frameworks, entertaining stories, and admittedly bad-Dad jokes, The Obvious Choice is a much-needed recalibration and, at times, a refreshing slap for a business generation that’s lost its way. New episodes ship out Mondays along with short, business hotseats every Wednesday.

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341 I Less Doing, More Living I Jonathan Goodman and Ari Meisel
2025/07/11
Pre-order my next book, "The Obvious Changes" here: https://amzn.to/3EsBKUt Order my book "The Obvious Choice" here: https://amzn.to/4ghBzce Not sure if you want to get my book, “The Obvious Choice”? Here’s a free sample to check out: https://www.theptdc.com/the-obvious-choice-free-chapter Who Am I? Jonathan Goodman is the creator of the Personal Trainer Development Center and host of the popular Obvious Choice podcast, a top show for coaches, entrepreneurs, and small business owners. Jon’s been featured in most major business and fitness publications including Men’s Health, Forbes, Entrepreneur, Robb Report, Inc., and many more. Over 200,000 coaches and small business owners in more than 120 countries have purchased business development materials from him.  Subscribe to my free weekly newsletter "5 Reps Friday" read by 74,000+ each week: https://www.theptdc.com/newsletter-subscribe Get my FREE "Jacked Nerds Reading List" here: https://www.theptdc.com/11-best-books-for-jacked-nerds Join my Online Trainer Mentorship program: https://onlinetrainermentorship.com/mentorship/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=OTMEvergreen Follow me on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itscoachgoodman/ X: https://x.com/itscoachgoodman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-goodman/
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340 I Doing Hard Sh*t Together Creates Deeper Connection
2025/07/09
Pre-order my next book, "The Obvious Changes" here: https://amzn.to/3EsBKUt Order my book "The Obvious Choice" here: https://amzn.to/4ghBzce Not sure if you want to get my book, “The Obvious Choice”? Here’s a free sample to check out: https://www.theptdc.com/the-obvious-choice-free-chapter Who Am I? Jonathan Goodman is the creator of the Personal Trainer Development Center and host of the popular Obvious Choice podcast, a top show for coaches, entrepreneurs, and small business owners. Jon’s been featured in most major business and fitness publications including Men’s Health, Forbes, Entrepreneur, Robb Report, Inc., and many more. Over 200,000 coaches and small business owners in more than 120 countries have purchased business development materials from him.  Subscribe to my free weekly newsletter "5 Reps Friday" read by 74,000+ each week: https://www.theptdc.com/newsletter-subscribe Get my FREE "Jacked Nerds Reading List" here: https://www.theptdc.com/11-best-books-for-jacked-nerds Join my Online Trainer Mentorship program: https://onlinetrainermentorship.com/mentorship/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=OTMEvergreen Follow me on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itscoachgoodman/ X: https://x.com/itscoachgoodman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-goodman/
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339 I You're Using Social Media All Wrong
2025/05/21
For every 18-year-old on social media who thinks they need a big following just to make a few sales, there are 100 silent business owners quietly earning more. "The information economy," according to journalist Oliver Burkeman, "is essentially a giant machine for persuading you to make the wrong choices about what to do." Creating content is an overrated way to build a business. So what's better? Read the full article here: https://www.theptdc.com/articles/are-you-using-social-media-all-wrong Pre-order my next book, "The Obvious Changes" here: https://amzn.to/3EsBKUt Order my book "The Obvious Choice" here: https://amzn.to/4ghBzce Not sure if you want to get my book, “The Obvious Choice”? Here’s a free sample to check out: https://www.theptdc.com/the-obvious-choice-free-chapter Who Am I? Jonathan Goodman is the creator of the Personal Trainer Development Center and host of the popular Obvious Choice podcast, a top show for coaches, entrepreneurs, and small business owners. Jon’s been featured in most major business and fitness publications including Men’s Health, Forbes, Entrepreneur, Robb Report, Inc., and many more. Over 200,000 coaches and small business owners in more than 120 countries have purchased business development materials from him.  Subscribe to my free weekly newsletter "5 Reps Friday" read by 74,000+ each week: https://www.theptdc.com/newsletter-subscribe Get my FREE "Jacked Nerds Reading List" here: https://www.theptdc.com/11-best-books-for-jacked-nerds Join my Online Trainer Mentorship program: https://onlinetrainermentorship.com/mentorship/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=OTMEvergreen Follow me on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itscoachgoodman/ X: https://x.com/itscoachgoodman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-goodman/
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338 I If You Want To Start a Business, Read This Book
2025/05/16
Pre-order my next book, "The Obvious Changes" here: https://amzn.to/3EsBKUt Order my book "The Obvious Choice" here: https://amzn.to/4ghBzce Not sure if you want to get my book, “The Obvious Choice”? Here’s a free sample to check out: https://www.theptdc.com/the-obvious-choice-free-chapter Who Am I? Jonathan Goodman is the creator of the Personal Trainer Development Center and host of the popular Obvious Choice podcast, a top show for coaches, entrepreneurs, and small business owners. Jon’s been featured in most major business and fitness publications including Men’s Health, Forbes, Entrepreneur, Robb Report, Inc., and many more. Over 200,000 coaches and small business owners in more than 120 countries have purchased business development materials from him.  Subscribe to my free weekly newsletter "5 Reps Friday" read by 73,000+ each week: https://www.theptdc.com/newsletter-subscribe Get my FREE "Jacked Nerds Reading List" here: https://www.theptdc.com/11-best-books-for-jacked-nerds Join my Online Trainer Mentorship program: https://onlinetrainermentorship.com/mentorship/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=OTMEvergreen Follow me on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itscoachgoodman/ X: https://x.com/itscoachgoodman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-goodman/
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337 I The Millionaire Mindset: What I Told a Stranger on the Subway About Real Success
2025/05/14
A tap on the shoulder on the subway. "Is that a sales book?" he asked. I took the subway instead of driving to read. It turned into a 15-minute impromptu business consult with a man named Mandeep. ”It’s more about business structure,” I said, showing him the cover of Clockwork: Design Your Business to Run Itself. He told me he was a new business owner with an e-commerce store. Read the full article here: https://www.theptdc.com/articles/me-and-mandeep-talk-about-mentorship-on-the-subway Pre-order my next book, "The Obvious Changes" here: https://amzn.to/3EsBKUt Order my book "The Obvious Choice" here: https://amzn.to/4ghBzce Not sure if you want to get my book, “The Obvious Choice”? Here’s a free sample to check out: https://www.theptdc.com/the-obvious-choice-free-chapter Who Am I? Jonathan Goodman is the creator of the Personal Trainer Development Center and host of the popular Obvious Choice podcast, a top show for coaches, entrepreneurs, and small business owners. Jon’s been featured in most major business and fitness publications including Men’s Health, Forbes, Entrepreneur, Robb Report, Inc., and many more. Over 200,000 coaches and small business owners in more than 120 countries have purchased business development materials from him.  Subscribe to my free weekly newsletter "5 Reps Friday" read by 74,000+ each week: https://www.theptdc.com/newsletter-subscribe Get my FREE "Jacked Nerds Reading List" here: https://www.theptdc.com/11-best-books-for-jacked-nerds Join my Online Trainer Mentorship program: https://onlinetrainermentorship.com/mentorship/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=OTMEvergreen Follow me on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itscoachgoodman/ X: https://x.com/itscoachgoodman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-goodman/
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336 I Admire Success Without Desiring Their Life
2025/05/02
Comparing yourself to others and obsessing over their success might just be the deadliest trap you can fall into on your journey. I've learned that while it's healthy to admire what others have achieved, it's crucial to understand the full story of what they sacrificed to get there – and to recognize that their path might not be one you'd actually want to walk. Order my book "The Obvious Choice" here: https://amzn.to/4ghBzce Not sure if you want to get my book, “The Obvious Choice”? Here’s a free sample to check out: https://www.theptdc.com/the-obvious-choice-free-chapter Who Am I? Jonathan Goodman is the creator of the Personal Trainer Development Center and host of the popular Obvious Choice podcast, a top show for coaches, entrepreneurs, and small business owners. Jon’s been featured in most major business and fitness publications including Men’s Health, Forbes, Entrepreneur, Robb Report, Inc., and many more. Over 200,000 coaches and small business owners in more than 120 countries have purchased business development materials from him.  Subscribe to my free weekly newsletter "5 Reps Friday" read by 73,000+ each week: https://www.theptdc.com/newsletter-subscribe Get my FREE "Jacked Nerds Reading List" here: https://www.theptdc.com/11-best-books-for-jacked-nerds Join my Online Trainer Mentorship program: https://onlinetrainermentorship.com/mentorship/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=OTMEvergreen Follow me on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itscoachgoodman/ X: https://x.com/itscoachgoodman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-goodman/
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335 I How You Can Avoid Burnout (in Life and Career)
2025/04/30
The secret lies in embracing seasons—focused periods of intensity followed by deliberate shifts. Like nature itself, our lives need rhythm: work and rest, doing and being, acceleration and recovery. This approach isn't about sacrifice. It's about sequence. Not limitation, but liberation. Let me show you how to stop drowning in overwhelm and start thriving through seasonal living. Read the full article here: https://www.theptdc.com/articles/solving-burnout-a-very-old-solution Pre-order my next book, "The Obvious Changes" here: https://amzn.to/3EsBKUt Order my book "The Obvious Choice" here: https://amzn.to/4ghBzce Not sure if you want to get my book, “The Obvious Choice”? Here’s a free sample to check out: https://www.theptdc.com/the-obvious-choice-free-chapter Who Am I? Jonathan Goodman is the creator of the Personal Trainer Development Center and host of the popular Obvious Choice podcast, a top show for coaches, entrepreneurs, and small business owners. Jon’s been featured in most major business and fitness publications including Men’s Health, Forbes, Entrepreneur, Robb Report, Inc., and many more. Over 200,000 coaches and small business owners in more than 120 countries have purchased business development materials from him.  Subscribe to my free weekly newsletter "5 Reps Friday" read by 73,000+ each week: https://www.theptdc.com/newsletter-subscribe Get my FREE "Jacked Nerds Reading List" here: https://www.theptdc.com/11-best-books-for-jacked-nerds Join my Online Trainer Mentorship program: https://onlinetrainermentorship.com/mentorship/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=OTMEvergreen Follow me on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itscoachgoodman/ X: https://x.com/itscoachgoodman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-goodman/ Timestamps 0:00 Solving burnout 1:52 The silent creep of stuff 3:02 Broken ancestral rhythms 5:15 The power of endpoints 6:29 The Slinky Effect 8:09 Breaking out of burnout 11:14 Finding your rhythm
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334 I The Introvert's Guide to Meaningful Small Talk
2025/04/23
Small talk for introverts is a necessary evil. As artificial intelligence increasingly pervades our daily interactions, mastering the art of small talk paradoxically becomes more valuable, not less. Knowledge is rapidly becoming universal and immediate. Whether it's a networking event, party, in-person business (like walking the floor as a trainer at the gym), or via online chat, meaningful unscripted exchanges are becoming premium skills. Read the full article here: https://www.theptdc.com/articles/ditch-your-cringey-conversations-with-just-two-small-tricks Order my book "The Obvious Choice" here: https://amzn.to/4ghBzce Not sure if you want to get my book, “The Obvious Choice”? Here’s a free sample to check out: https://www.theptdc.com/the-obvious-choice-free-chapter Who Am I? Jonathan Goodman is the creator of the Personal Trainer Development Center and host of the popular Obvious Choice podcast, a top show for coaches, entrepreneurs, and small business owners. Jon’s been featured in most major business and fitness publications including Men’s Health, Forbes, Entrepreneur, Robb Report, Inc., and many more. Over 200,000 coaches and small business owners in more than 120 countries have purchased business development materials from him.  Subscribe to my free weekly newsletter "5 Reps Friday" read by 73,000+ each week: https://www.theptdc.com/newsletter-subscribe Get my FREE "Jacked Nerds Reading List" here: https://www.theptdc.com/11-best-books-for-jacked-nerds Join my Online Trainer Mentorship program: https://onlinetrainermentorship.com/mentorship/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=OTMEvergreen Follow me on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itscoachgoodman/ X: https://x.com/itscoachgoodman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-goodman/ Timestamps 0:00 Small talk for introverts is a necessary evil 1:41 The Single Goal of Every Conversation 2:41 Trick 1: Ask Open Door Questions, not Stop Signs 6:22 Trick 2: Conversation Threading 8:40 5-Minute Social Prep
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333 I Finding Meaningful Work in an AI World
2025/04/16
Doing the work worth doing is a wonderful thing. That's what I'll write about today—how doing work that makes you better as a result of the work, not because of any results you might get from it, is worth doing. Read the full article here: https://www.theptdc.com/articles/as-ai-takes-the-easy-you-must-choose-your-hard Pre-order my next book "The Obvious Changes" here: https://amzn.to/3EsBKUt Order my book "The Obvious Choice" here: https://amzn.to/4ghBzce Not sure if you want to get my book, “The Obvious Choice”? Here’s a free sample to check out: https://www.theptdc.com/the-obvious-choice-free-chapter Who Am I? Jonathan Goodman is the creator of the Personal Trainer Development Center and host of the popular Obvious Choice podcast, a top show for coaches, entrepreneurs, and small business owners. Jon’s been featured in most major business and fitness publications including Men’s Health, Forbes, Entrepreneur, Robb Report, Inc., and many more. Over 200,000 coaches and small business owners in more than 120 countries have purchased business development materials from him.  Subscribe to my free weekly newsletter "5 Reps Friday" read by 73,000+ each week: https://www.theptdc.com/newsletter-subscribe Get my FREE "Jacked Nerds Reading List" here: https://www.theptdc.com/11-best-books-for-jacked-nerds Join my Online Trainer Mentorship program: https://onlinetrainermentorship.com/mentorship/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=OTMEvergreen Follow me on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itscoachgoodman/ X: https://x.com/itscoachgoodman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-goodman/ Timestamps 0:00 Discover work worth doing in an AI world 1:52 Choose your hard 3:02 Your good work that matters is all that matters 4:45 The work worth doing tests 8:35 The exhaustion is satisfying
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332 I How To Design Your Dream Life (Create Systems, Not Goals)
2025/04/11
Today, I'm diving into the idea that real success isn't about chasing a finish line but about crafting systems that celebrate every little win along the way.  In this video, I share my journey on how shifting from traditional goal-setting to building effective, life-affirming processes can turn your everyday efforts into triumphs. Order my book, "The Obvious Choice" here: https://amzn.to/4ghBzce Not sure if you want to get my book, “The Obvious Choice”? Here’s a free sample to check out: https://www.theptdc.com/the-obvious-choice-free-chapter Who Am I? Jonathan Goodman is the creator of the Personal Trainer Development Center and host of the popular Obvious Choice podcast, a top show for coaches, entrepreneurs, and small business owners. Jon’s been featured in most major business and fitness publications including Men’s Health, Forbes, Entrepreneur, Robb Report, Inc., and many more. Over 200,000 coaches and small business owners in more than 120 countries have purchased business development materials from him.  Subscribe to my free weekly newsletter "5 Reps Friday" read by 73,000+ each week: https://www.theptdc.com/newsletter-subscribe Get my FREE "Jacked Nerds Reading List" here: https://www.theptdc.com/11-best-books-for-jacked-nerds Join my Online Trainer Mentorship program: https://onlinetrainermentorship.com/mentorship/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=OTMEvergreen Follow me on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itscoachgoodman/ X: https://x.com/itscoachgoodman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-goodman/ Timestamps  0:00 Most successful people set systems 0:52 Figure out ways to have pleasure along the journey 1:50 Change the way you look at success 3:30 Example of how I apply this mindset 4:43 Personal Celebrations & Milestone Experiences 6:25 Building a System of Process Celebrations 8:30 Conclusion: Winning with Systems Over Goals
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331 I How to Grow Your Social Media from Nothing
2025/04/09
Everyone teaching social media growth is competing for attention . . . on social media. They're forced to share what performs best, not what works best.  Read the full article here: https://www.theptdc.com/articles/how-to-grow-social-media-from-nothing-or-basically-nothing Order my book "The Obvious Choice" here: https://amzn.to/4ghBzce Mentioned in this video:  "Viralnomics: How to Get People to Want to Talk About You" https://amzn.to/4i1x0Dd Not sure if you want to get my book, “The Obvious Choice”? Here’s a free sample to check out: https://www.theptdc.com/the-obvious-choice-free-chapter Who Am I? Jonathan Goodman is the creator of the Personal Trainer Development Center and host of the popular Obvious Choice podcast, a top show for coaches, entrepreneurs, and small business owners. Jon’s been featured in most major business and fitness publications including Men’s Health, Forbes, Entrepreneur, Robb Report, Inc., and many more. Over 200,000 coaches and small business owners in more than 120 countries have purchased business development materials from him.  Subscribe to my free weekly newsletter "5 Reps Friday" read by 73,000+ each week: https://www.theptdc.com/newsletter-subscribe Get my FREE "Jacked Nerds Reading List" here: https://www.theptdc.com/11-best-books-for-jacked-nerds Join my Online Trainer Mentorship program: https://onlinetrainermentorship.com/mentorship/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=OTMEvergreen Follow me on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itscoachgoodman/ X: https://x.com/itscoachgoodman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-goodman/ Timestamps 0:00 Growing my social media platforms 2:00 The Social Media Advice Paradox 3:03 Master the Four Stages of Social Media Growth 4:01 The Sea Lion Strategy 5:02 Don't Create a Community—Join One Already in Progress 6:00 The Sea Lion Method: Step by Step 6:34 The 15-Paperclip System That Built My Community 8:04 What's Working Right Now: Real Success Stories 8:41 My Current Approach: The Hidden Work 9:33 Connect More, Create Less 9:54 Five Connection Strategies That Outperform Content 15:15 The Psychology of Sharing 16:30 The Three Types of Content That Drive Growth 18:45 Final Practical Tips for Sustained Growth 19:21 Choose Your Path: Engagement or Sales 20:42 The Timeless Social Media Strategy
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330 I 5 Books That Will Change Your Life
2025/04/04
Books I recommended in this video: Snow Leopard by Category Pirates https://amzn.to/4ii8zBS The Comfort Crisis by Michael Easter https://amzn.to/3QHaKmS Four Thousand Week by Oliver Burkeman https://amzn.to/4h2nxe3 Antifragile by Nassim Nicholas Taleb https://amzn.to/4hjOVVn The Humans by Matt Haig https://amzn.to/41AicWR Order my book "The Obvious Choice" here: https://amzn.to/4ghBzce Not sure if you want to get my book, “The Obvious Choice”? Here’s a free sample to check out: https://www.theptdc.com/the-obvious-choice-free-chapter Who Am I? Jonathan Goodman is the creator of the Personal Trainer Development Center and host of the popular Obvious Choice podcast, a top show for coaches, entrepreneurs, and small business owners. Jon’s been featured in most major business and fitness publications including Men’s Health, Forbes, Entrepreneur, Robb Report, Inc., and many more. Over 200,000 coaches and small business owners in more than 120 countries have purchased business development materials from him.  Subscribe to my free weekly newsletter "5 Reps Friday" read by 73,000+ each week: https://www.theptdc.com/newsletter-subscribe Get my FREE "Jacked Nerds Reading List" here: https://www.theptdc.com/11-best-books-for-jacked-nerds Join my Online Trainer Mentorship program: https://onlinetrainermentorship.com/mentorship/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=OTMEvergreen Follow me on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itscoachgoodman/ X: https://x.com/itscoachgoodman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-goodman/
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329 I 5 Hard Truths About Creating Work That Matters
2025/04/02
It's been almost two months since The Obvious Choice was released. Lots of people have been asking me how it's been going. If I'm honest, my answer is "not great". I've been disappointed with sales and so has my publisher. I'm sharing five crucial lessons I've learned from this experience. Not to complain, but to illuminate the path for anyone bringing something valuable into a noisy world. Whether you're launching a product, sell a service, or creating art––these five lessons transcend any specific field. Read the full article here: https://www.theptdc.com/articles/my-book-launch-didnt-go-all-that-well-really Order my book "The Obvious Choice" here: https://amzn.to/4ghBzce Not sure if you want to get my book, “The Obvious Choice”? Here’s a free sample to check out: https://www.theptdc.com/the-obvious-choice-free-chapter Who Am I? Jonathan Goodman is the creator of the Personal Trainer Development Center and host of the popular Obvious Choice podcast, a top show for coaches, entrepreneurs, and small business owners. Jon’s been featured in most major business and fitness publications including Men’s Health, Forbes, Entrepreneur, Robb Report, Inc., and many more. Over 200,000 coaches and small business owners in more than 120 countries have purchased business development materials from him.  Subscribe to my free weekly newsletter "5 Reps Friday" read by 73,000+ each week: https://www.theptdc.com/newsletter-subscribe Get my FREE "Jacked Nerds Reading List" here: https://www.theptdc.com/11-best-books-for-jacked-nerds Join my Online Trainer Mentorship program: https://onlinetrainermentorship.com/mentorship/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=OTMEvergreen Follow me on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itscoachgoodman/ X: https://x.com/itscoachgoodman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-goodman/ Timestamps 0:00 What I learned from my book launch bombing? 0:49 Five crucial lessons I learned from this experience 1:04 Lesson 1: Positioning: The Art of Framing Value 3:42 Lesson 2: Audience: Quality over Quantity 7:24 Lesson 3: Influence: The Contextual Boundaries of Your Authority 10:15 Lesson 4: Mastery: The Illusion of Transferable Excellence 13:06 Lesson 5: Self-Reliance: The Ultimate Liberation
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328 I The Reason You Should Start Writing
2025/03/28
Writing isn't just about putting words on a page—it's about clarifying the chaos in your mind and presenting ideas in a way others can understand. In a world where AI can write for us, mastering this inhuman skill might be the most powerful advantage for any ambitious person today." Order my book "The Obvious Choice" here: https://amzn.to/4ghBzce Not sure if you want to get my book, “The Obvious Choice”? Here’s a free sample to check out: https://www.theptdc.com/the-obvious-choice-free-chapter Who Am I? Jonathan Goodman is the creator of the Personal Trainer Development Center and host of the popular Obvious Choice podcast, a top show for coaches, entrepreneurs, and small business owners. Jon’s been featured in most major business and fitness publications including Men’s Health, Forbes, Entrepreneur, Robb Report, Inc., and many more. Over 200,000 coaches and small business owners in more than 120 countries have purchased business development materials from him.  Subscribe to my free weekly newsletter "5 Reps Friday" read by 73,000+ each week: https://www.theptdc.com/newsletter-subscribe Get my FREE "Jacked Nerds Reading List" here: https://www.theptdc.com/11-best-books-for-jacked-nerds Join my Online Trainer Mentorship program: https://onlinetrainermentorship.com/mentorship/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=OTMEvergreen Follow me on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itscoachgoodman/ X: https://x.com/itscoachgoodman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-goodman/
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327 I The Explorer's Gene I Jonathan Goodman and Alex Hutchinson
2025/03/26
In today's episode, I'm thrilled to sit down with my long-time friend Alex Hutchinson, New York Times best-selling author of "Endure" and his new book "The Explorer's Gene." We dive into the courage it takes to explore new creative paths rather than getting typecast by your past successes, and Alex shares how his unplanned writing journey led to his most powerful work. Get my friend Alex Hutchinson's new book, The Explorer's Gene: Why We Seek Big Challenges, New Flavors, and the Blank Spots on the Map Alex Hutchinson is the New York Times bestselling author of Endure, a longtime columnist for Outside covering the science of endurance, and a National Magazine Award–winning journalist who has contributed to the New York Times, The New Yorker, and other publications. A former long-distance runner for the Canadian national team, he holds a master’s in journalism from Columbia and a Ph.D. in physics from Cambridge, and he did his post-doctoral research with the National Security Agency.  Order my book "The Obvious Choice" here: https://amzn.to/4ghBzce Not sure if you want to get my book, “The Obvious Choice”? Here’s a free sample to check out: https://www.theptdc.com/the-obvious-choice-free-chapter Who Am I? Jonathan Goodman is the creator of the Personal Trainer Development Center and host of the popular Obvious Choice podcast, a top show for coaches, entrepreneurs, and small business owners. Jon’s been featured in most major business and fitness publications including Men’s Health, Forbes, Entrepreneur, Robb Report, Inc., and many more. Over 200,000 coaches and small business owners in more than 120 countries have purchased business development materials from him.  Subscribe to my free weekly newsletter "5 Reps Friday" read by 73,000+ each week: https://www.theptdc.com/newsletter-subscribe Get my FREE "Jacked Nerds Reading List" here: https://www.theptdc.com/11-best-books-for-jacked-nerds Join my Online Trainer Mentorship program: https://onlinetrainermentorship.com/mentorship/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=OTMEvergreen Follow me on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itscoachgoodman/ X: https://x.com/itscoachgoodman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-goodman/ Timestamps 0:00 Alex Hutchinson Introduction 1:28 Discussing Alex's books, including "Endure" and "The Explorer's Gene" 3:12 The evolution of book writing toward self-development and life design 4:25 What exploration really means beyond physical travel 5:06 The dilemma of being typecast after success 6:18 The explore-exploit dilemma: balancing new ventures vs. known success 7:49 "It just didn't seem fun to me" - Making career choices based on enjoyment 8:50 The challenge of crossing between different professional worlds 10:47 How John and Alex first met through a cold email 14:00 The challenges of writing: structure vs. crafting sentences 17:33 How the interludes in "Endure" evolved organically 20:37 The choice not to track book sales and analytics 21:23 Injecting personal experience into writing in the age of AI 24:32 Writing with "your cup half full" to prepare for life's challenges 28:57 - Introduction to the Wundt curve concept
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4.6 out of 5
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Speed Coach P 2025/11/06
Wonderful Content
This podcast will take you to the next level as a fitness pro!
Listener221 2024/10/22
Eases my fears regarding selling my services
This podcast really breaks down the business of online training into very simple steps. I’ve just started stepping into the online sphere and I’m not ...
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Lopecciano 2024/06/04
Practical info to grow your business
Great job!
Briancrossfitter 2024/07/19
Great Information
I enjoy the podcast. Great information!
Trithink 2024/05/14
I Love This Podcast!
I have owned and operated a brick and mortar training studio for 30 + years. I’ve yet to actually go online with my business, but find that every epis...
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Titan Rahl 2024/05/14
Deserving
You won’t be dissapointed
Jklepack 2024/05/10
Packed with Value
I started listening to this Podcast last week and it’s now the only podcast I’ve listened to all week. The content is great, gives ideas for action st...
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GarveyPT 2024/05/07
Gold in every episode
This is a value packed podcast! Jonathan and his team give away so much actionable info every episode, it’s almost unreal. Looking forward to sorting...
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Joe@Surefire 2024/05/06
The perfect balance between information and entertaining!
Generally I like podcasts that are strictly informative and get straight to the point, but this podcast has a good mix of humor and entertaining perso...
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Coach Bbl 2024/05/03
Quality info
I very much enjoy how specific and relative all of this information is! One of the only places to find this kind of information with this level of val...
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