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2019/06/19
Latest episode
2025/11/08
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140 min.
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Beyond the Physics is a podcast run by Joseph Guzman and Irene Roman, PhD physics students, who hope to learn more about the universe, and the people that make up the culture behind the science. Come along as we hope to tackle some of the most difficult, and thought provoking questions of our time, and shatter the notions of what it takes to be a physicist.
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They Finished Their Physics PhDs—Now What?
2025/11/08
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Simon's Journey in Physics: From Childhood Fascination to Advanced Physics Research
2024/07/26
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Balancing Acts: Navigating the Utility of Religion and Facing the Abyss with Terence
2024/02/09
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Kintsugi with Michael Jaramillo
2023/10/07
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Where to find Michael's work!
https://www.instagram.com/michaeljjaramillo/https://www.instagram.com/michaeljaramillophotography/Master's ThesisIf you want to keep up with the program
Links (Education and potentially useful resources to supplement the podcast)
APS Bridge Program:
https://aps.org/programs/minorities/bridge/Details on Bitter Electromagnets:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitter_electromagnetHow to get healthcare (in the US) when unemployed:
https://www.healthcare.gov/unemployed/Narcissism (and their communal variants):
Crash Course on Narcissim by Dr. Ramani: https://youtu.be/V87G95bGTTkVideo focusing on Communal Narcissm: https://youtu.be/aF8fiHTbGtYArticle on Communal Narcissism: https://www.choosingtherapy.com/communal-narcissism/Rough Timestamps (hh:mm:ss)
Introduction: Start to 00:02:20
Why pursue physics / astronomy: 00:02:30 to 00:06:00
Beginning Observational Astronomy: 00:0600 to 00:11:30
Time-domain Astronomy, Gravitational lensing: 00:11:30 to 00:13:00
Astronomy in Alabama to Michigan: 00:13:30 to 00:16:10
Ancient people having connection with the sky: 00:17:00 to 00:18:30
Brazil travel: 00:18:30 to 00:19:30
Back to why astronomy, Connecting to the universe: 00:20:00 to 00:25:00
“Putting numbers to things”, Learning the physics: 00:25:00 to 00:37:00
“So much work to enjoy one of my five classes”: 00:33:00“Theme that echoes into grad school”: 00:33:25 In Grad School, when do you get to do what you love?: 00:38:00 to 00:43:00
What did you learn in school vs on the job? : 00:43:00 to 00:50:00
Masters in Neutron Star astrophysics: 00:46:45What’s next? : 00:51:00 to 00:53:00
New school, New problems Advisor, Research opportunities (Bait and switch): 00:53:00 to 01:02:00
“Stink” associated with being a bridge student“Left more meetings in tears than not” : 00:57:00Jaded on the bridge program: 00:57:00 to 00:59:00
Forced into condensed matter, research experience: 01:02:30 to 01:
Counseling (in and out of school): 01:13:00 to 01:15:00
Near death experience: 01:15:00 to 01:34:30
At the present, so to speak, Finding Balance, Confidence, Counseling: 01:35:00 to 01:50:00
Connection to Joe’s break “I don’t know who I am after I leave”: 01:51:30 to 01:54:15
What is your purpose without astronomy? (Bird, astrophotography. Skateboarding): 01:54:15 to 2:00:00
Expectations to provide and be emotionless: 02:00:00 to 02:08:40
Suffering leads to compassion: 02:08:40 to 02:10:00
Joe’s experience with his advisor: 02:10:00 to 02:26:00
How would you view your past experience now? : 02:26:00 to 02:30:00
How do you feel now that you are out of grad school?: 02:32:00 to End
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Venom, Death and Abuse - 2023 Update
2023/09/04
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Links (Education and potentially useful resources to supplement the podcast)
Case Study of Serum Sickness in Dog due to Antivenin:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1V9aTDO4I3U3T_Pre3XPXVKD62mu6KQF9/view?usp=sharingBCG Therapy Info by American Cancer Society:
https://www.cancer.org/cancer/types/bladder-cancer/treating/intravesical-therapy.htmlCommunal Narcissism:
https://www.choosingtherapy.com/communal-narcissism/Dr. Ramani Video: https://youtu.be/aF8fiHTbGtYRough Timestamps
Introduction: Start to 00:04:00
Irene Doctoral Candidacy + Summer School in Pittsburgh: 00:04:00 to 00:10:00
Dealing with Anxiety / Panic Attacks: 00:10:00 to 00:16:00
Sage Emergency, Snake Bite, Kidney Failure (+ Joe Qualification Exam Prep): 00:16:00 to 00:35:00
Joe Qualification Exam: 00:35:00 to 00:40:00
Irene Father Health Emergency (Lack of space to Mourn): 00:40:00 to 01:03:30
Spring 2023
Irene Playing music again + Rock Climbing: 01:03:30 to 01:09:10
Joe Spring 2023, Prospectus + Rock Climbing: 01:09:10 to 01:16:50
Irene Scholarship: 01:16:50 to 01:19:00
Joe “Incident” with Advisor: 01:19:00 to 01:47:50
Summer 2023, Travel, Summer school in Brazil: 01:48:00 to End
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How Moon Knight Changed My Life
2023/08/04
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Internal Family Systems Information :
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapy-types/internal-family-systems-therapyDissociative Identity Disorder Information:
https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/dissociative-disorders/what-are-dissociative-disordersWhere to watch Moon Knight (Not a sponsor):
https://www.disneyplus.com/series/moon-knight/4S3oOF1knocSRough Timestamps (mm:ss)
Start - 08:00: Introduction & Catch up
08:00 - 09:15: Value of mental excercise
09:15 - 13:55 : Context from the show
14:15 - 24:00 : Context from my life & My Existential Crisis
Quote: "My Body on Railroad Tracks": 17:55
24:30 - 37:20 : "Who's My Mark and Who's my Steven?"
26:35 - 31:00 : Defining Mark
31:00 - 33:00 : Chink in Mark's Armor
33:00 - 34:45 : Who am I?
34:45 - 37:20 : Defining Steven
37:20 - 42:20 : The conflict between Mark and Steven
42:30 - 46:00 : Steven's right to exist ( despite what society may say )
46:00 - 48:33 : Take aways, Moving towards integration
48:33 - 50:30 : Homework for you!
50:30 - End : Outro
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Couch Talks #1 - Eigenbros
2022/04/29
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Where to find the Eigenbros: https://www.youtube.com/c/Eigenbros/featured
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https://eigenbros.com/
Rough Timestamps:
QFT Discussion (Scattering Amplitudes, Feynman Rules, References):
Start to 30 mins
Astro stuff (Quantizing Gravity, Neutron Stars, Black Holes): 30 to 50 mins
Movies / TV (Tenet, Primer, Interstellar, 2001 Space Odyssey, Moon Knight (DID), Jesus Christ Superstar) 50 to 70 mins
Religion (Social Utility, Education, Politics): 70 to 85 mins
Microplastics and Clippy: 85 to End
From Eigenbros to Beyond Grad School, Juan pt.2
2022/03/21
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References
At the beginning of the episode Juan tries to recall the "Sandia National Laboratories" in New Mexico.
Rough Timestamps (hh:mm:ss)
Start - 00:02:07: Introduction
00:02:07 - 00:03:52 : Where'd We Leave off
00:03:52 - 00:09:07 : Eigenbros is changing, New jobs, Catching Omicron
00:09:07 - 00:21:37 : Recap on events since last interview
00:21:37 - 00:24:22 : Why apply to schools?
00:24:22 - 00:28:22: Working for Uber Eats and the Post Office
00:28:22 - 00:31:37 : Struggles with interviews
00:31:37 - 00:36:22 : How is Eigenbros changing?
00:36:22 - 00:42:07 : Conflict between the bros?
00:42:07 - 00:51:07 : Producing Higher Quality
00:51:07 - 01:05:07 : Honest thoughts about leaving program
00:52:51 : “Feelings leaving grad school” Quote
00:54:29 : “Stillborn” Quote
01:05:07 - 01:13:22 : Philosophy of the Physics Department
01:13:37 - 01:43:22 : Centering Your needs, Equity
01:21:10 : “It’s their loss” Quote
01:26:07 : “We never see you” Quote
01:39:25 : “Controlled Rage” Quote
01:43:22 - 01:48:37 : Difference in perception after passing Qualifying exam
01:51:07 - 2:02:37 : Treatment of students by teachers
02:02:37 - 02:19:55 : Appreciation of empathy in professional spaces
02:19:55 - End : Outro
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2022 Update: Break, Therapy, NVC, COVID
2022/01/24
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Links
Needs Inventory: https://www.cnvc.org/training/resource/needs-inventory
Feelings Inventory: https://www.cnvc.org/training/resource/feelings-inventory
Rough Timestamps
Start to 2:34 - Introduction
2:34 to 3:49 - Overview
3:49 to (6:49 Irene Start) 11:56 - Recap of Summer 2021
11:56 to (14:50 Irene Start) 21:00 - Fall 2021 (Taking a break, Therapy, NVC, Grading, Struggle w/ Schedule, Back Degeneration)
21:00 to (24:10 Irene Start) 29:20 - Spring 2022 (Coming back to school, Teaching in person)
29:40 to 34:30 - Why take a break?
34:30 to 37:00 - What was the plan for the break?
37:00 to 55:00 - What did you learn about yourself from the break? What role did physics culture play in necessitating the break?
55:00 to 58:30 -Advocating for our needs
59:00 to 1:08:00 - Practical Steps during the break (Therapy, Nutrition)
1:08:00 to 1:23:30 - NVC
1:23:30 to 1:44:00 - COVID (Social Stimuli, Distractions)
1:44:30 to End (Outro)
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Joe's Imposter Syndrome Deconstruction
2021/05/08
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Veritasium Luck Video (Not Affiliated) :https://youtu.be/3LopI4YeC4I
Needs Inventory: https://www.cnvc.org/training/resource/needs-inventory
Feelings Inventory: https://www.cnvc.org/training/resource/feelings-inventory
Rough Timestamps
Introduction (Fan music): Start - 1:50
Irene’s Classes + Research : 1:50 - 8:50
Joe’s Classes : 8:50 - 11:00
Opening up: 11:00
Patterns of thought: 12:57 - 14:50
Retaking coursework: 15:05 - 18:35
Anxiety, Imposter Syndrome, emotional blocks : 18:50 - 26:50
Perceptions of self: 27:50 - 29:50
Experience with Therapy: 30:05
Source of feelings: 32:40 - 39:05
Effects of that event: 39:05 - 41:50
Why was that experience so hurtful? 42:50 - 47:20
Luck and hierarchy in physics: 47:30 - 53:55
Naming the story: 55:00 - 1:02:50
Values bring perspective: 1:02:50 - 01:07:30
Breakthrough: 01:07:50 - 01:13:35
Full Fanmade Song: 1:25:30
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Book Club #1 - "Conscious" by Annaka Harris
2020/10/26
Our guests discussing the book today are:
Terence, Ricardo (Ricky) Castaneda, and Edward (Ed) Benavidez, show them some love for coming on!
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If you would like to hear more, find our previous podcast with Terence: https://beyond-the-physics.simplecast.com/episodes/ep1-terence
and with Edward Benavidez: https://beyond-the-physics.simplecast.com/episodes/10-edward-benavidez
Rough Timestamps
00:02:30 - 00:08:30 : Introductions + Synopsis + First Impressions
00:09:15 - 00:12:45 : Defining Panpsychism
00:12:45 - 00:16:30 : Defining Consciousness (Chapter 1)
00:16:30 - 00:19:30 : Is memory necessary for consciousness?
00:19:30 - 00:30:30 : Decision making fundamental to consciousness (viruses conscious)?
00:30:30 - 00:41:30 :Unit of Consciousness (Consciousness Particle?)
00:42:30 - 00:59:30 : Can we tell if someone/something is conscious from the outside?
01:00:30 - 01:20:30 : Binding
01:22:15 - 01:50:30: Sense of Self, Split brain, boundary of consciousness
01:51:30 - 02:01:30: Is consciousness useful? Must it exist? (back to consciousness from the outside)
02:02:00 - 02:28:30 : Consciousness and Time (Presentism vs Eternalism, Nature of Time, Physics lesson)
02:30:00 - End : Higher levels of consciousness?
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Will and Determination- Edward Benavidez
2020/08/28
Bookclub
Our first assigned reading is: "Conscious: A Brief Guide to the Fundamental Mystery of the Mind" By Annaka Harris, you can find a copy to purchase here: Amazon
(We are not affiliated or sponsored by this product)
Message us questions using the email under "Contact Us" if you're interested in participating
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Rough Timestamps
Intro: 00:00:00 - 00:04:30
Background (First scientist in family): 00:08:15
Journey before physics (psychology, medical doctor):
00:08:30 - 00:14:30
Dropping in on engineering classes, switching majors: 00:14:45 - 00:18:45
Going back to community college after “graduating” (choosing physics):
00:19:15 - 00:22:30
Physics Tutoring Job: 00:24:15 - 00:25:30
CSULB: 00:26:15
Why was psychology a bad fit? : 00:27:30 - 00:34:45
Starting LB physics: 00:34:45
Finding Graphene: 00:36:30 - 00:39:15
CSULB SPS (presidency): 00:39:30 - 00:41:30
Research and its culture: 00:42:15 - 01:01:15
(Mentor in a coma: 00:55:00)
(Hazing: 00:57:30)
Long Beach vs UML (and Knoxville) culture: 01:01:30 - 01:32:45
Physics Relies on engineering: 01:32:45 - 01:43:30
Why go to UMass Lowell? : 01:46:30 - 01:53:30
Getting started with research: 01:54:00 - 01:59:30
Qualifying Exam: 01:59:30 - 02:11:45
Family’s Feelings Now: 02:13:15 - 02:23:00
Irene’s BA time: 02:23:30 - 02:29:30
Csulb Memories: 02:32:30 - 02:34:30
Unhappy during 20’s: 02:38:30 - 02:41:30
Finished Psychology?: 02:43:15 - 02:45:00
Psycho physics?: 02:45:00 - 02:49:30
Book Club (Conscious): 02:50:30 - 02:53:30
Ghosts (using radar) and Bigfoot: 02:53:30 - 03:01:30
Radar in tech: 03:01:30 - 03:07:30
Final Questions (goal after phd, what makes a perfect mentor): 03:08:30 - 03:15:15
Title: 03:20:45
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Fathers Day Special Part 2- Javier Roman
2020/07/31
Relevant Links
Trump administration rescinds rule on foreign students (AP)
US now says new foreign students can't enter if courses online (Aljazeera)
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Rough Timestamps
Javier’s background: 00:03:30
Visit from NASA: 00:16:30
Household Growing up: 00:20:30
Mexican Education/ Colleges: 00:23:30
Should America adopt Mexico’s college system: 00:27:30
Access to quality education: 00:31:30
Professionals difficulty finding jobs: 00:37:30
“Shoving” our way to change: 00:50:30
Importance of Networking: 00:58:30
Feelings on family/Irene in science: 01:02:30
Why move to America: 01:07:45
Into and Out of Management: 01:12:30
Discrimination at work: 01:14:30
Gratitude and Luck: 01:19:30
Trump and international students: 01:33:30
Retirement projects: 01:40:30
Anti-Science movement: 01:48:30
Register to Vote + Vote by Mail: 01:59:30
Advice for raising kids: 02:04:30
Wealth and Happiness: 02:11:30
Best practices for Father’s from Irene’s experience: 02:25:00
Closing Remarks, advice for younger generation: 02:33:30
Fathers Day Special Part 1- John Guzman
2020/07/17
Recent news: Supreme Court Hands Abortion-Rights Advocates A Victory In Louisiana Case (NPR)
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Every great dream begins with a Dreamer- Jesus
2020/06/20
Recent news: Supreme Court DACA ruling (Washington Post)
Per Jesus's Recommendation, here is how to support NPR: NPR Donation
“Every great dream begins with a dreamer. Always remember, you have within you the strength, the patience, and the passion to reach for the stars to change the world.”
– Harriet Tubman
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