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2026/04/19
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Did We Get Hungary Wrong?
2026/04/19
This week, Damir and Shadi are joined by Julian Waller, Professorial Lecturer in Political Science at George Washington University and co-author of Autocrats Can’t Always Get What They Want: State Institutions and Autonomy under Authoritarianism. The occasion is an awkward one for a certain kind of democracy discourse: Viktor Orbán was last weekend thrown out in a landslide by Péter Magyar’s Tisza Party, ending a sixteen-year run.
So — was Hungary ever really the dictatorship Western liberals spent the last decade insisting it was? If a supposed autocrat loses a vote and walks away, what does that tell us about the category we put him in?
The three dig into Orbán’s media capture, why the Hungarian-language internet routed around it, and whether Magyar’s improvised anti-corruption coalition can hold. They then turn to Magyar himself — a former Fidesz insider who ran the Navalny playbook of anti-corruption populism with a nationalist twist — and ask whether his improvised negative coalition can actually govern. Will unwinding Orbán’s institutional capture require exactly the kind of authoritarian hardball the new guy was elected to stop?
The final stretch turns to moralizing, on both sides. Why did both the Right and the Left make such a symbol out of a small European country?
Required Reading:
* Autocrats Can’t Always Get What They Want: State Institutions and Autonomy under Authoritarianism, by Nathan J. Brown, Samer Anabtawi, Steven D. Schaaf, and Julian G. Waller (Amazon).
* Julian’s pre-election epic thread handicapping the Hungarian vote (X).
* “A Last Chance for Hungary,” by Bálint Madlovics and Bálint Magyar (Foreign Affairs).
* “Authoritarianism, Reform, or Capture? Democracy in Trump’s America,” by Dima Kortukov and Julian G. Waller (American Affairs).
* Péter Magyar’s post-election appearance on Hungarian state television (Euronews).
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Anti-Politics and the Counter-Revolution
2026/04/14
Samuel Kimbriel was in Italy the other week, where he sat down with Rome-based political theorist Giovanni Orsina to talk about European populism. The conversation starts with Giorgia Meloni, who, Orsina argues, is more a pragmatic traditional right-wing politician than a true populist. It then turns to a deeper things.
Previewing his upcoming book Counter-Revolution, Orsina claims that after the 1960s, people became both revolutionary and utopian, turning away from politics to morality, law, and markets. But after 2008, populism emerged as a counter-revolutionary force seeking re-politicization. He warns Europe’s institutions were built for depoliticized times and now are struggling to meet the moment. Can they survive?
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Peter Beinart on Why the "Right to Exist" is the Wrong Question
2026/04/01
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Last week, Shadi wrote a controversial essay over at Wisdom of Crowds titled “Does Israel Have a Right to Exist?” This week, we had our friend Peter Beinart on to the show to unpack the question some more. Peter is, among many other things, a contributing writer for the New York Times and the author of Being Jewish After the Destruction of Gaza. And last year he pen…
What Ails the Left?
2026/03/17
This week, Shadi and Sam sat down with Jonny Thakkar, an Assistant Professor in Political Science at Swarthmore College and one of the founding editors of the invaluable The Point magazine. In a recent essay in The Point, Jonny argues that the left’s organizing framework — reducing injustice and pursuing equality — is inherently negative and distributional, and therefore fails to inspire the kind of longing that drives political movements.
This is a topic that we’ve chewed over frequently here at Wisdom of Crowds. The conversation goes on to weigh whether liberalism can offer a genuine vision of the good life or whether it is structurally committed to a neutrality that empties politics of meaning. The group debates Rawlsian liberalism, Marx’s notion of human capacities, the appeal of the tech right’s futurism, as well as religion, autonomy, and whether the loss of a pre-modern sense of cosmic order is recoverable.
The episode ends without a tidy resolution, but with a shared sense that any politically viable vision of human flourishing must grapple seriously with what a good life actually looks like — not just what a just distribution of resources resembles.
Required Reading:
* “Beyond Equality,” by Jonny Thakkar (The Point).
* “Last Boys at the Beginning of History,” by Mana Afsari (The Point).
* Abundance, by Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson (Amazon).
* Ross Douthat’s interview with Sen. Chris Murphy (NYT).
* The Grasshopper: Games, Life and Utopia, by Bernard Suits (Amazon).
* Laura Field interviewed by Sam and Christine (WoC).
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Cameron Kasky on How Israel Lost America
2026/03/07
This week, Shadi and Damir hosted Cameron Kasky — a rising young activist in the Democratic Party and former congressional candidate for New York’s 12th District — who gave us a glimpse into where American politics might be headed.
Cameron started his career as a gun control advocate after surviving the Parkland shooting. For his efforts, he was named one of TIME’s 100 Most Influential People in 2018. He has since become a passionate advocate for the Palestinian cause, especially so after Gaza. We recorded this episode a day after Marco Rubio caused a furor by suggesting America’s decision to attack Iran was shaped by the fact that Israel might do it without us anyway, leaving our assets in the region dangerously exposed. With increasingly hostile young MAGA voices convinced that Israel holds undue sway over American foreign policy, we discussed how Democrats see a path forward.
The conversation got heated at times — Damir goes incandescent over Epstein, Shadi frets about entrenched Democratic leaders not reflecting voters’ preferences — but it’s an important episode very much worth your time. American politics is changing before our eyes, and anyone thinking we’re going back to the way things were after Trump has another thing coming.
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Are We All Clavicular Now?
2026/02/23
Damir, Shadi and Christine discuss the latest wave of worrying data about young adults’ retreat from dating, sex, marriage and parenthood. Shadi lays out the big numbers — projections that a large minority of young Americans may never marry and a substantial share may never have children — and ties them to two worries: widespread loneliness (especially among young men) and long-run national capacity in an era of low fertility and reduced immigration. Christine agrees on the economic and political downstream effects but keeps returning to more normative questions: is a prosperous but degraded society worth saving?
The conversation swerves (as it tends to) into the subcultures forming in the vacuum: the looksmaxxing/manosphere influencer “Clavicular,” who embodies male energy redirected inward — away from courtship and community and toward obsessive self-modification and performative detachment from women. Damir pushes an uncomfortable adaptation thesis: maybe this is simply what “winning” does to advanced societies, whether we like the aesthetics of it or not.
Required Reading:
* “The truth about population decline,” by Martin Wolf (Financial Times).
* “Get Married Young,” by Brad Wilcox (Compact).
* “1-in-3: A Record Share of Young Adults Will Never Marry,” by Lyman Stone (Institute for Family Studies).
* The Human Flourishing Program’s “Flourish” measure (Harvard IQSS).
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Just How Worried Should We Be About AI?
2026/02/15
Damir and Sam are joined by Cambridge philosopher Henry Shevlin of the Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence for a raucous and rambling conversation about the state of artificial intelligence. Is it about to get conscious, take all of our jobs, and destroy the world? Or is all this industry hype?
Henry starts off the conversation asserting that AI already has a kind of “agency,” even if it’s not yet the full kind that some skeptics are looking for. Damir and Sam push back on AI’s reliability and proclivity to hallucinations, and wonder whether AI can create anything genuinely novel or creative.
The conversation turns to autonomy and risk. Can “artificial superintelligence” ever be reached, asks Sam? Henry points to AI coding agents already improving themselves. Damir objects to anthropomorphizing AI and prefers treating these systems as powerful tools capable runaway failures — but nothing more. Henry disagrees, ending the conversation with a plea for AIs getting consideration as moral entities at some point.
Required Reading:
* “Superintelligence: Paths, Dangers, Strategies,” by Nick Bostrom (Amazon).
* The Creative Mind: Myths and Mechanisms, by Margaret Boden (Amazon).
* “Disambiguating Anthropomorphism and Anthropomimesis in Human-Robot Interaction,” by Minja Axelsson and Henry Shevlin (arxiv.org).
* “Real Patterns,” by Daniel C. Dennett (Rutgers).
* A relevant tweet by Séb Krier (X).
* AlphaGo Move 37 analysis (DeepMind).
* Conway’s Game of Life (Wikipedia).
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American Exceptionalism on Trial
2026/02/03
This episode features a full-length debate between Shadi Hamid and Trita Parsi —two thinkers who fundamentally disagree about the role of American power in the world. Released jointly with The Disagreement podcast and hosted by Alex Grodd, the conversation reflects a shared Wisdom of Crowds ethos — one that treats disagreement not as a failure of understanding, but as a tool for thinking more clearly about first principles. Rather than trading talking points, Hamid and Parsi engage each other’s strongest arguments in a sustained, good-faith exchange.
Shadi draws on themes from The Case for American Power to defend a position that has fallen out of favor across much of the political spectrum: that American power, when used with moral purpose, can still play a necessary role in reducing global suffering. His argument is aimed in part at a disillusioned left that has come to see U.S. power primarily as a source of harm rather than a potential instrument of humanitarian good. Against this, Trita — one of the most incisive critics of American interventionism — offers a sustained challenge, grounded in historical failures, unintended consequences, and the limits of even well-intentioned power.
Does the world need the United States to act, and if so, when — and at what cost? How should past disasters constrain present ambitions? And if American power is curtailed, what realistic alternatives exist, and who bears responsibility when things go wrong? This debate doesn’t resolve those questions — but it models what it looks like to take them seriously, in conversation with someone who sees the world very differently.
Required Reading/ Listening:
* The Disagreement podcast.
* Shadi Hamid, The Case for American Power. (Amazon)
* Shadi’s 2024 debate with Daniel Bessner hosted by The Disagreement.
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What the New Right Actually Believes
2026/01/27
This week Christine Emba and Sam Kimbriel are joined by Laura K. Field, a political theorist and the author of the new book Furious Minds: The Making of the MAGA New Right. It’s a sharp, readable taxonomy of the thinkers, factions and subcultures that helped build the MAGA coalition—from the Claremont world and national conservatism, to post-liberal Catholicism, to harder-edged online currents.
Laura explains how she came to write about this subject, and how she became convinced the movement wasn’t going to take an off-ramp after January 6. The three trace how these ideas migrate from argument to power. They dissect liberalism’s blindspots, which somehow persist to this day. And they look at the right’s internal fractures — and what those tensions might mean for the coming succession fight in the Republican Party.
Required Reading:
* Furious Minds: The Making of the MAGA New Right, by Laura K. Field (Amazon).
* Why Liberalism Failed, by Patrick Deneen (Amazon).
* “The Flight 93 Election,” by Publius Decius Mus (Claremont Review of Books).
* “Inside Stephen Miller’s Dark Plot to Build a MAGA Terror State,” by Greg Sargent (New Republic).
* “Why the MAGA-DOGE Coalition Will Hold,” by Patrick Deneen (UnHerd).
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Venezuela and Its Consequences
2026/01/09
Against the backdrop of Trump’s breathtaking snatch-and-grab operation against Venezuela’s nasty dictator Nicolás Maduro, Shadi and Damir debate the complexities of global politics, focusing on the tension between power and morality. They explore the implications of U.S. foreign policy decisions and debate the role of values in international relations.
Shadi pushes Damir about the implications of his commitments, who in turn says ugly things you probably won’t like.
Required Reading:
* “Venezuela and the End of Hipocrisy,” by Shadi Hamid (WoC).
* “The Great Unraveling Has Begun,” by Oona Hathaway (NYT).
* “On the Legality of the Venezuela Invasion,” by Jack Goldsmith (Executive Functions).
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How Democracies Can Get Their Mojo Back
2025/12/29
As the year winds down, Shadi and Damir hosted Michael McFaul, a professor at Stanford University and former special assistant to President Obama and U.S. ambassador to Russia. His new book, Autocrats vs. Democrats: China, Russia, America, and the New Global Disorder is as good a start as any in trying to figure out how U.S. foreign policy could — and should — develop in the wake of a second Trump presidency.
Required Reading:
* Autocrats vs. Democrats: China, Russia, America, and the New Global Disorder, by Michael McFaul (Amazon).
* The Case for American Power, by Shadi Hamid (Amazon).
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Holiday Special: The Case for a New American Founding
2025/12/24
This week, we have a special live episode for you. Wisdom of Crowds, in cooperation with Aspen’s Philosophy and Society program, threw a holiday party in DC, celebrating the release of our friend Osita Nwanevu’s new book, The Right of the People. Samuel Kimbriel sat down with Osita and the great Sam Goldman of the Hamilton School at the University of Florida, to kick off our celebration of America’s 250th with a debate of whether the constitution was a bad idea.
Osita argues that it is time for a new American founding. The clash between our democratic principles and our long term inequalities requires a gradual but fundamental reworking of the American constitutional order. Goldman dissents, arguing both that, for all its flaws, the American system is superior to any comparable existing democracy of comparable scale—and that any plausible step to dismantle it is likely to lead to ruin. Kimbriel tries to keep the peace.
Abandon arguing with your family over the holidays and argue with us instead!
Required Reading:
* The Right of the People, by Osita Nwanevu (Penguin Random House).
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Why are Charismatic Demagogues So Attractive?
2025/12/15
This week, the great Nils Gilman joined Damir Marusic and Samuel Kimbriel on the pod to unpack the complexities of American foreign policy and its implications for Europe — and beyond. The conversation starts by trying to make sense of Trump’s latest National Security Strategy as a jumping off point, before pivoting into a discussion of populism.
Why do some causes, projects — and people — provide meaning while others fall flat? For example, why is Trump’s nationalism more politically effective than calls to global climate action? And is there a better way to create meaning in an increasingly fragmented world?
Required Reading:
* Nils Gilman, “Climate Leviathan” (Substack).
* Nils Gilman, “The Duopoly of Doom” (Substack).
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Do We Crave Intensity in Our Lives?
2025/12/08
Damir’s back from Ukraine, still buzzing — and feeling weird about it. He and Christine talk about the thrill and guilt associated with reporting from war zones, the ethical implications of war tourism, and the psychological toll on both journalists and civilians.
The conversation then shifts to Trump and a possibly looming war with Venezuela. The Trump administration has cowed many a politician, but the fear seems to be ebbing. But have we gotten over our addiction to the thrill of political populism?
Required Reading:
* Damir Marusic, “My Night in Dnipro” (WoC).
* Christine Emba, “Vibe Shift 2.0” (WoC).
* Jason Willick, “There’s No Middle Ground on the Boat Strikes” (Washington Post).
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Lea Ypi on Dignity, History and Internet Trolls
2025/11/30
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A few years ago, Lea Ypi was scrolling through Facebook when she came across a family photo she had never seen before. Someone had discovered a photograph of Ypi’s grandparents on their honeymoon and posted it on a public Facebook group. Ypi — a philosophy professor from Albania who teaches at the London School of Economics — was dismayed by the comments on the photograph, which ranged from inaccurate to judgmental to just plain mean. Were the husband and wife in this photo Albanian aristocrats? Fascist collaborators? Victims of Communism?
Responding to the trolls — as well as, as she puts it, “taking the trolls seriously” — Ypi decided to write a book reconstructing her grandparents’ story. The result is Indignity: A Life Reimagined, a book which asks, among other things, what does human dignity really mean? What makes this book even more interesting is that Ypi’s grandparents lived through some of the most dramatic moments in the twentieth century: the fall of the Ottoman Empire, the rise of Fascism, and World War II.
Ypi joins Damir and Santiago, who want to understand Ypi’s own philosophical priors. Damir wants to know where moral responsibility ends and and the structural forces of history begin. Santiago asks whether dignity, as a concept, has a metaphysical foundation. The result is a wide-ranging conversation that covers history, literature, philosophy and more.
In our bonus section for paid subscribers, Santiago asks Ypi about the difference between Fascist and Communist decision-making; Damir presses Ypi on the question of free will; Ypi discusses her two-point prescription for a better Europe; Santiago asks Ypi whether it’s hard to write about one’s country in a foreign language; and finally, Ypi’s hot take on Zohran Mamdani.
Required Reading:
* Lea Ypi, Indignity: A Life Reimagined (Amazon).
* Lea Ypi, Free: Coming of Age at the End of History (Amazon).
* Immanuel Kant, Groundwork for the Metaphysics of Morals (Amazon).
* Friedrich Schiller, On the Aesthetic Education of Man (Amazon).
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mdpnjva 2022/11/17
First principles and deep dives
Very intelligent conversation about morality, politics, culture, the world, and much more. A great dive into the challenge of being intellectually hon...
malynagalore 2025/11/15
Clueless
Sorry but Shadi has got to be one of the least insightful people out there speaking about politics. He seems to think that the United States should ex...
Katabatides 2025/01/22
Could use more listening
Really appreciate the frequent voices of Christine and Sam; it seems like they actually keep to the idea of getting at "first principles" rather than ...
Runnin around 2022/01/06
My #1 Podcast
Shadi and Damir have the most interesting, curious, engaging conversations that I’ve found on the internet. If you want to explore more perspectives o...
josieh 2022/05/23
No positive vision for the future
One gets the impression that the hosts aren’t so much skeptical of the possibility of sweeping change as they are totally averse to it.
peacefulsand 2021/08/19
Always hear something interesting
Really appreciate this show for its conversational tone and perspective. Neither host are trying to sell you on something and I always learn new thing...
thicks51 2021/12/12
Hit and miss
When the hosts address topics they have researched and/or have personal knowledge of the pod is good. When they get out of their lane it is frustrati...
Nchamill 2021/06/12
Great Conversations
Truly a great pod.
Metrofails 2021/08/10
Eh
I’m a paid subscriber, somewhat regretfully. I’ll keep listening because sometimes I hear something novel and thought provoking. The pod sometimes has...
A. Ham 1 2021/01/23
This is quickly becoming my favorite podcast
Great guests and interesting hosts
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