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2026/07/02
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The Chatting With Ingram podcasts take global issues and chat them through with industry and thought leaders bringing unique insights into life, the universe and everything, as the quote goes. The series focuses on people, security, defence, cyber, intelligence, business, terrorism, spies, current affairs and just fun chats with great people hosted by Philip Ingram MBE.
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The Defence Chiefs song - I'm Deluded and I'll Never Quit
2026/07/02
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The Defence Chiefs song - I'm Deluded and I'll Never Quit
Russia’s raising the stakes, risks crossing the line,
Most dangerous time in my thirty-five-year grind.
I warned them of a £28 billion hole in the ground,
But here comes the DIP with fifteen — and I’ll sign it down.
Day-to-day funding’s squeezed till the training runs dry,
We’ll dial back the ops, watch readiness say goodbye.
I know we can’t do the job with this budget so thin,
But the uniform’s comfy and the pension kicks in.
[Chorus]
I’m deluded and I’ll never quit!
Accepting the plan though I know it’s b******t.
I could speak truth to power, walk out with my pride,
But I like the position and the stars on my side.
No moral courage, just comfortable lies,
I’m deluded and I’ll never quit — watch the forces die!
[Verse 2]
Future tech? They say the plan fails on that score,
Too much on old ships while the cutting edge is poor.
I wrote to the PM, met the chiefs in the room,
Expressed “deep concerns” — then swallowed the doom.
Healey resigned, Carns walked, they had the spine I lack,
I stay in the chair and pat the government’s back.
Longer conflicts coming, we’re not ready at all,
But I’ll toast the DIP at the next NATO ball.
[Verse 3]
I know the men and women deserve better gear and drills,
Operational pressure building, breaking iron wills.
Unaffordable plan that can’t be delivered right,
But criticising ministers? That wouldn’t be polite.
They call my warnings dramatic, overblown and loud,
I nod and agree — blend back into the crowd.
Deluded by the title, the briefings, the power,
I’ll ride this sinking ship till my final hour.
[Bridge – spoken/sung slower, bitter]
Russia probing the skies… threats growing every day…
I could fight for the funding that keeps us from decay…
But why rock the boat when the perks are so fine?
Moral courage is messy — I’ll just fall in line.
[Final Chorus – louder, mocking]
I’m deluded and I’ll never quit!
Accepting the plan though I know it’s b******t.
I could speak truth to power, walk out with my pride,
But I like the position and the stars on my side.
No moral courage, just comfortable lies,
I’m deluded and I’ll never quit…
God save the forces… while I save my career!
Black Hole Blues (The DIP Lament)
2026/07/01
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Now the Defence Investment Plan has been announced - what does it really mean?
Philip Ingram has some thoughts in song!
Starmer stood up with a shiny new plan,
£298 billion, yeah, that's what he said, man.
Fifteen extra for drones and some hybrid dreams,
But the chiefs wanted twenty-eight—now we're bursting at the seams!
They trimmed the budgets, raided the pot,
Told the MoD to save ten billion—give it all you got!
But there's a five billion hole staring back at me,
Next Prime Minister's problem—thanks for the legacy!
[Chorus]
Woefully inadequate, that's what they say,
Black hole in the budget, enemies on the way.
Drones in the water, destroyers out the door,
This ain't investment, it's sticking plasters on a open sore!
Indefensible, un-defendable,
Britain's war-ready? Mate, it's barely tenable!
[Verse 2 – NEW]
But here's the real trick, the hospital pass supreme,
4.7 billion dropped on Burnham like a bad dream.
Starmer wraps another review and calls it a win,
Delays in the spending now baked right in.
As the new King Andy Burnham takes the crown with a smile,
He can stall all defence cash for a good long while!
Political football, kicked down the road,
Black hole as a weapon in the Labour code.
[Verse 3]
Hybrid navy coming, Common Combat Vessels they say,
Mother ships for drones, gonna save the day.
But Tom Sharpe's yelling, "Cost-cutting by name!
Drones can't do it all, it's a risky game!"
Type 45s retiring, frigates on the slide,
While the spreadsheet's winning and the Navy's getting fried.
Old weapons still work, tech ain't God yet,
But we're betting the farm on a Ukrainian reset!
[Chorus]
Woefully inadequate, that's what they say,
Black hole in the budget, enemies on the way.
Drones in the water, destroyers out the door,
This ain't investment, it's sticking plasters on a open sore!
Indefensible, un-defendable,
Britain's war-ready? Mate, it's barely tenable!
[Bridge]
Lord Dannatt's fuming, "The price we'll pay's unthinkable!"
Deterrence in the toilet while the Treasury's invincible.
2.7 percent? We were promised way more,
NATO's watching, allies keeping score.
Repackaged promises, massaged figures too,
Half of what we needed—now what we gonna do?
[Verse 4 / Outro]
So raise a glass to the plan that satisfies none,
Cuts and efficiencies under the gun.
From the X feeds raging to the papers in a spin,
This Defence Investment Plan—where do we begin?
Enemies are laughing, watching from afar,
While we're playing drone wars in a budget bazaar...
Jam Tomorrow - a flawed Defence Investment Plan
2026/06/30
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Philip Ingrams view of the Defence Investment Plan announced by the outgoing Prime Minister - Keir Starmer
Labour Defence review - 2.5% Never?
2025/01/11
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Now Labour plots to delay defence boost until 2030s - despite warnings it will put Britain's safety at risk
The Money Laundering Machine: Inside the global crime epidemic
2024/07/12
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The Money Laundering Machine: Inside the global crime epidemic
In this episode of the Cybersecurity & Geopolitical Discussion, our trio of hosts discuss paradoxes surrounding money laundering and the reasons it’s so popular, particularly among well-establish organised criminal gangs.
Geopolitics UK Election Special
2024/06/19
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Vote UK:
The geopolitical, cyber and security implications of the upcoming British election…
In a year of global elections, next up on July 4 the UK decides on its next government after 14 years of rule by the right-wing Conservative Party. In this episode, our regular panel of Cijax CISO Ian Thornton Trump, Red Goat Security’s Lisa Forte and Grey Hare Media’s Philip Ingram pull apart the scenario to uncover what the impact could be on national and global security.
Appetite for Change in a Climate of Disinformation
Looking at the current UK polls, our panel discusses whether the predictions can be trusted. Possible outcomes are examined, along with their impact on a current global stage dominated by conflict and uncertainty, and the UK’s international influence and reputation.
A snap election called by Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has left little time for political campaign planning. This has stoked sound bites and disinformation as competing parties strive to make the biggest impact by scoring points over their rivals. Our panel explains why this opens the door to external interference from those that would gain from disrupting the democratic process and drive instability in a country that has extensive geopolitical influence.
Coming Clean on Security
One of the most eye-opening UK election pledges to date is the Conservative’s sudden commitment to introducing National Service for 18-year-old Brits. Our panel dive into the detail to decide whether this is merely sound-bite sensationalism or a credible security strategy that other countries should take on board.
Could the move be a way of shoring up an underfunded UK military by stealth, and how would this policy affect the armed forces? Does this election create an opportunity to stop the serial bluffing about defense capabilities and actually pledge action to solve the problem? Or would this be far too close to the truth for the UK and other major world powers?
A Matter of Trust
As disinformation reigns and a deep fake of Labour Leader Keir Starmer causes consternation, our panel examine whether the resulting skepticism and apathy among UK voters could ultimately decide the outcome of this election. With social media growing in importance as the main political battleground, influencers weald increasing power, click bait rules and hackers look set to have a field day, further eroding trust. What will this ultimately mean for the UK and its global partners?
Find out all this and more in our latest episode which dissects the perils of modern elections through the lens of the UK.
Thanks to threat intelligence business Cyjax for continued support and sponsorship.
The real space race: Inside geopolitics and security of a $1.8T industry
2024/04/27
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In this episode of the Cybersecurity & Geopolitical Discussion, hosts Ian Thornton-Trump CD, CISO for Cyjax, Lisa Forte, Partner at Red Goat Security and Philip Ingram MBE, CEO of Grey Hare Media debate the geopolitical and security dimensions of The real space race: Inside geopolitics and security of a $1.8T industry. Our PODCAST is sponsored by CYJAX.
The Cybersecurity and Geopolitical Discussion — Changing global influence in a year of elections
2024/03/21
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The Cybersecurity and Geopolitical Discussion — Changing global influence in a year of electionsIn Episode 21 of the Cybersecurity & Geopolitical Discussion, hosts Ian Thornton-Trump CD, CISO for Cyjax, Lisa Forte, Partner at Red Goat Security and Philip Ingram MBE, CEO of Grey Hare Media discuss how modern forces manifest, how much power is truly being wielded, and what effect it is likely to have on a year when some of world’s biggest and most influential powers are holding elections.
Broken China?
2024/02/28
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Broken China?
China borders 14 countries and is the 4th largest country in the world and second largest in terms of population. It's very surprising to know so little about the Chinese even though western think tanks and news articles have written volumes. It's shocking that a county which is at the very enter of the global supply chain for nearly every other country in the world is enigmatic, challenging, and difficult to understand. Perhaps it's due to China being an officially atheist state with over 40% of the population identifying as agnostic or atheist? This is remarkably different from nearly any other country in the world as is the lack of ethnic diversity 91.6% identify as ethnically Han. China is different, or is it really?
In this video podcast with Comrade Ian Thornton-Trump CD, CISO for Cyjax, Comrade Lisa Forte and Comrade Philip Ingram MBE we wave the Chinese flag passionately as we explore China. Lisa, was our woman on the ground who travelled the length and width of the region including rural Mongolia in -45 Celsius (-49 Fahrenheit) and visited Beijing as well as some rural villages - we can categorically state China has some of the best ice climbing opportunities in the world. The ice climbing opportunities aside this video podcast is supported by a new report from our sponsor Cyjax written by Comrade Nikita Cole whose draft helped structured our discussion - the paper is available here:
This short excerpt from the CIA world fact book paints the picture and rather surprisingly is unbiased in relating to China's resent ascension to the second largest economy in the world (2024).
"MAO Zedong died in 1976. Beginning in 1978, subsequent leaders DENG Xiaoping, JIANG Zemin, and HU Jintao focused on market-oriented economic development and opening the country to foreign trade, while maintaining the rule of the CCP. Since the change, China has been among the world’s fastest growing economies, with real gross domestic product averaging over 9% growth annually through 2021, lifting an estimated 800 million people out of poverty, and dramatically improving overall living standards."
What the CIA world fact book has left out is the lifting out of poverty has created a massive middle class anxious for western consumer and luxury goods. The 2023 McKinsey China Consumer Report also found the middle class continues to rise. There is still no other country that adds as many households to the middle class each year as China does. Over the next three years, China is expected to add another 71 million upper-middle and high-income households adding to the 693.3 million identified in 2022. It's massive and a massive market opportunity for any firm.
But all may not be as well as it seems - the panel explores some of doom and gloom associated with China and how cracks may be showing in foreign policy, international relations and its relationship with the world’s largest economy the USA - join us for a fascinating look at a country described by some as a "Frenemy" to the west but has radically transformed in less than 1/2 a lifetime - 45 years.
Geopolitical PODCAST - 2024 a look forward
2024/01/10
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Ian Thornton Trump CD, Lisa Forte and Philip Ingram MBE look at events coming in 2024 and what could influence them from a geopolitical and cyber perspective. This episode is sponsored by CYJAX.
Ian Thornton-Trump CD, CISO for Cyjax, Lisa Forte, Partner at Red Goat Security and Philip Ingram MBE of Grayhare Media take a look at some of the more interesting world events which are set to take place in 2024. Kicking off our usual banter on this particular topic was an article in the Economist - but due to the “Great British Paywall” I’ve substituted this article https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2024/1/3/24022864/elections-democracy-2024-united-states-india-pakistan-indonesia-european-parliament-far-right-voting instead which captures the essence of the discussion.
With great analysis from Phil and Lisa we talk about the upcoming Russian election and the tone (as usual) turns ominous as we discuss reminders of Putin’s responses to critics of his regime. https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-russians-fall-windows-putin-ukraine-war-1781790 We can expect more gravity related fatalities soon in the run up to the March 2024 Russian election.
India, the world’s largest democracy will conduct a national election April to May 2024. The growing population of India and it’s important in world affairs is fast becoming a sought after strategic partner for many powerful countries. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/31/bjp-modi-india-general-election-2024 but the massive disinformation capabilities could destabilise the process to a considerable degree. Lisa, citing the recent Brazilian election experience with disinformation across social media platforms and Phil identifying the magnitude of the problem brought to light in this research: https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-01-13-social-media-manipulation-political-actors-industrial-scale-problem-oxford-report place the Indian elections in the right context and identify a potential lynch pin in geopolitical relationships. This will be an election which many people will be watching the results not the least of which are the 1.4 billion Indians—and a considerable number of Indian ex-pats across the world. For additional information on this subject please see: https://news.mit.edu/2023/study-microtargeting-politics-tailored-ads-0621
The panel observes the potential impacts of recent layoffs in the big social media companies as well as AI content creation may in the words of Lisa “run amok” and the lack of safeguards or “kill switch” when it comes to viral content has every opportunity to feed a cycle of violence, anger and create the right atmosphere for successful disinformation and manipulation. The broader outcome of the election and the inevitable geopolitical forces lead to the panel to conclude that India may be open to shopping for the right defence partner in the years ahead to further its own geopolitical and national policy goals.
It’s inevitable when looking at key events of 2024 the panel turns to the big question of Russia Ukraine confit. Phil’s podcast on the tactical situation can be found here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ukraine-day-645-an-update-by-philip-ingram-mbe/id1479994480?i=1000637077000 The
The Cyber Security and Geopolitical Discussion - Crypto Cubed
2023/12/06
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Crypto Cubed
It’s enigmatic and potential problematic. Lisa Forte, Partner at Red Goat Security , Phil Ingram MBE of Greyhare Media and Ian Thornton-Trump CD, CISO for Cyjax go around the table on Cryptocurrencies and the wide-ranging impact they are having on geopolitical conflict and economic conflict. The panel covers a lot of ground. The sensational trial of Sam Bankman-Fried who was found guilty on all seven counts related to the collapse of FTX could land him 115 years in jail depending on how much momentum there is for an appeal – his attorney Mark Cohen said Bankman-Fried respects the jury's decision but maintains his innocence and will continue to "vigorously fight the charges." So, yet another chapter in the saga may yet unfold.
The background to the trial was straight forward. The FTX exchange fell into bankruptcy after users found they could no longer withdraw their funds, worth billions of dollars in aggregate. The money was funnelled it into a sibling company, called Alameda Research, and used it for risky stock trades, political donations, and funding his extravagant lifestyle. He also flamboyantly ignored his lawyer's advice and prior to the trial he conducted many media interviews as well as written testimony to Congress and then as part of the final trial preceding's appeared on the witness stand to defend himself. It's safe to say the jury was unimpressed as he crumbled against all the evidence, he himself had provided to government prosecutors due to his public statements.
The fundraising efforts and overt Iranian funding of the Hamas terrorist organization came under discussion. Eleven days after the Terrorist attack in Israel the "U.S. Department of the Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) imposed sanctions on ten key Hamas terrorist group members, operatives, and financial facilitators in Gaza and elsewhere including Sudan, Türkiye, Algeria, and Qatar. This action targets members managing assets in a secret Hamas investment portfolio, a Qatar-based financial facilitator with close ties to the Iranian regime, a key Hamas commander, and a Gaza-based virtual currency exchange and its operator." Digging deeper into this it was soon realised crypto currency and exchanges had played a massive part in providing the funds to conduct the sinister attack into southern Israel. It appears financial sanctions against terrorist organizations were easily bypassed by cryptocurrencies exchanges despite intelligence of digital-currency wallets connected to Hamas receiving about $41 million over the past two years according to Tel Aviv-based crypto analytics and software firm BitOK and information on Palestinian Islamic Jihad receiving $93 million in crypto during the same period, based on crypto researcher Elliptic’s data.
Zooming out of these specific revelations the panel examined the wider implications of both nation state sanction avoidance, the ability to effectively bypass the American financial system and the role of crypto currencies in funding global political movements - somewhat anonymously. There are rather chilling revelations as cryptocurrencies are found at the very centre of political agendas, disinformation campaigns and financial transactions between countries subject to economic sanctions by both US and EU/UK governments. Despite analysis proclaiming that far more legitimate and legal transactions are occurring on crypto currency blockchains than illegitimate and illegal transactions the simple conclusion is we don't know how bad the problem is until the damage has already been done.
Ukraine Day 645 an update by Philip INGRAM MBE
2023/11/30
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Ukraine Day 645, Philip INGRAM MBE former NATO planner and senior British Military Intelligence officer, and now TV and Radio commentator for Sky News, Talk TV and more, gives his update on the current situation.
The Cybersecurity and Geopolitical Discussion — Connecting the Wars — Episode 17
2023/11/08
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In Episode 17 of the Cybersecurity & Geopolitical Discussion from Security magazine, hosts Cyjax CISO Ian Thornton-Trump and Sky News security expert Philip Ingram, MBE, of Grey Hare Media are joined by Red Goat Cyber Security's Lisa Forte to analyze current events in the Middle East as the conflict between Israel and Hamas unfolds. The trio start with an update on the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war before analyzing events in the Middle East, from the proliferation of misinformation and disinformation to how cyberattacks have played a role in the Israel-Hamas conflict.
1-16 can be accessed here: https://www.securitymagazine.com/videos/6339837947112?bctid=6339837947112
International Cyber Expo Special with Ciaran Martin
2022/08/15
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In this International Cyber Expo (ICE) Special Philip INGRAM MBE chats with Professor Ciaran Martin CB, who is chair of the advisory council for ICE and they talk through some of the areas the free to attend conference and expo will cover. Get your free pass by clicking here: FREE International Cyber Expo PASS - and remember it is on over 27 and 28 September 2022 at London Olympia.
Russian disinformation and the Rail Strikes
2022/06/20
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In this episode Philip Ingram MBE chats with Lisa Forte Cyber Security - Partner @redgoatcyberand co-founder of respect in Security about disinformation, the Russians and how they use it and the possibility of it influencing the rail strikes starting on 21st June 22
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