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Perdita Finn returns to explore who mothers were before patriarchy, who they’ve become within it, and what magic becomes possible when enough mothers are in the room. We also explore the holy body of the grandmother, menopause as a power surge, the eternal return, and how living in relationship with the dead makes us less afraid to love and to change. Perdita Finn is the author of Take Back the Magic: Conversations with the Unseen World, Mothers of Magic: Summoning the Wisdom of Our Ancestors, and with her husband Clark Strand The Way of the Rose: The Radical Path of the Divine Feminine Hidden in the Rosary. She teaches popular workshops on connecting and collaborating with both the dead and the animate everything. She lives with her family in the moss-filled shadows of the Catskill Mountains. Inside — (02:01) Writing a book in collaboration with nature(07:37) What “mother” means outside of patriarchy(13:22) Abortion as a spiritual initiation(15:15) The eternal return, and why lineages are lies(20:47) When there are enough mothers in the room(23:20) The holy body of the grandmother, menstrual blood and menopause(32:03) Dancing with change and the erotic as life force(42:20) Raising children in relationship with the dead and the animate everythingIf you enjoyed the episode, check out — Many Mothers + Many Lifetimes: Ancestral Connection w— Perdita Finnthe Mother in the Dark w— Clark Strand 🌌More about our guest — Perdita’s websitePerdita’s FBPerdita’s IGPerdita’s SubstackMentioned in the episode— Mothers of Magic by Perdita FinnA Year of Living with the DeadSend us a message! 💫 Free resources — Take grace’s free class EROS : INITIATOR ❤️‍🔥 — Learn what the Erotic actually is, why it's the answer to what's not healing in your life, and who it’s calling you to become — someone delighted and powerful Stay Connected — Subscribe to the podcast wherever you get your listens Visit grace's website Join the newsletter 💌 thanks for listening. peace, be well. 🙏

In this episode, we look at 3 common ways sensitive, empathic humans are giving their power away. We also explore why “sacred rage” can be considered a form of spiritual bypassing, why borrowing other people’s pain is not the same as caring, and how right-sizing your responsibility will give you more presence, impact and relationship to your creative destiny. we discuss — (00:55) You actually need power to survive(02:28) Power Leak #1: Enmeshing with the collective, and mistaking news overwhelm for moral responsibility(04:56) Honoring your mortal limitations(11:51) Right-sizing your responsibility(14:13) Leak #2: Hyper-attuning to pain, prey experiences, and absorbing other people's emotions(17:23) Predator power does not equal perpetrator(26:05) Leak #3: Outrage and botheredness is not an act of service(31:05) The deathbed metric for what’s worth your time, energy and attentionIf you enjoyed the episode, check out — EP 232: 21 Signs You're Stuck in Good Girl ConsciousnessMentioned in the episode— Join the waitlist for MA 🌹Check out VIRGIN ($77 masterclass) 🐍Stay Connected — Subscribe to the podcast Grace’s links Grace’s website Join the newsletter 💌 Send us a message! 💫 Candlefire — a private fireside chat for this Equinox season 🕯️ Tune in. Underworld MAven — Learn the ropes, recipes, and symbols from the guides, guardians, lovers and p***y powerhouses. Turns out, something that you really need is hidden down here (but if you come and get it) 🌑 Learn more & join now. Free resources — Take grace’s free class EROS : INITIATOR ❤️‍🔥 — Learn what the Erotic actually is, why it's the answer to what's not healing in your life, and who it’s calling you to become — someone delighted and powerful Stay Connected — Subscribe to the podcast wherever you get your listens Visit grace's website Join the newsletter 💌 thanks for listening. peace, be well. 🙏

Venus is going retrograde this fall, and we are orienting to the season with the mythology of Inanna’s descent into the Underworld. grace walks through the road signs for this 2026 Venus retrograde as she moves from the home sign of Libra into the sharper terrain of Scorpio. We’ll also talk about why storytelling Inanna as a “victim” misses the point and how you can sit with questions around simplifying, reviewing and relating. we discuss — (00:00) Intro(02:17) what Venus cares about and signifies(12:06) Venus retrograde can support deeper intimacy and transformation(16:05) Venus’s journey from Libra to Scorpio — cocktail party vs. swimming with sharks(20:56) Cazimi and phasis — what happens when Venus conjoins and reemerges from the sun(24:35) Spica and the gifts of the innovation and provision(27:33) Key 2026 Venus retrograde dates(29:52) Thoughtful questions for Underworld seasonsIf you enjoyed the episode, check out — The Underworld Is Not Punishment — How to Stop Confusing Transformation with Trauma (and Meet Change as Initiation) 🔻Mentioned in the episode— Join the waitlist for MA 🌹Check out VIRGIN ($77 masterclass) 🐍Underland by Robert MacfarlaneShark Whisperer - Ocean Ramsey’s documentarySilo (TV series)Send us a message! 💫 Candlefire — a private fireside chat for this Equinox season 🕯️ Tune in. Underworld MAven — Learn the ropes, recipes, and symbols from the guides, guardians, lovers and p***y powerhouses. Turns out, something that you really need is hidden down here (but if you come and get it) 🌑 Learn more & join now. Free resources — Take grace’s free class EROS : INITIATOR ❤️‍🔥 — Learn what the Erotic actually is, why it's the answer to what's not healing in your life, and who it’s calling you to become — someone delighted and powerful Stay Connected — Subscribe to the podcast wherever you get your listens Visit grace's website Join the newsletter 💌 thanks for listening. peace, be well. 🙏

Transformation and trauma are not the same thing, and believing that is what’s keeping us locked out of the change we’re longing for. Drawing on years of embodied healing work, grace makes the case that change is the constant of life, and that meeting it well — instead of bracing against it, as if it were an attack — is actually what separates initiation from trauma. Grace traces this through the myths of Inanna and Persephone, the difference between behavior control and identity-level change, and why labeling every single discomfort as trauma leaves no one available to lead, create, or heal. we discuss — (00:33) why transformation is not the same as trauma(03:21) the difference between behavior modification and identity-level transformation that touches the soul and the body(07:20) why “the only constant is change” and the myths we’re taught about it(09:47) what happens when “everyone is traumatized,” and why that leaves no one left to be the leader, the shepherd, or the lighthouse(19:12) Inanna and Persephone as examples or sovereign initiation and empowered underworld experiences(25:16) the difference between a dysregulation pattern and actual trauma(31:24) the underworld can only be entered, not solved If you enjoyed the episode, check out — Initiation Deficit : Part 1 🐦‍🔥Initiation Deficit : Part 2 🎒Learning with Uncertainty w/ Narinder Bazen 🥀the Mother in the Dark w—Clark Strand 🌌Mentioned in the episode— Join the waitlist for MA 🌹Check out VIRGIN ($77 masterclass) 🐍Send us a message! 💫 Candlefire — a private fireside chat for this Equinox season 🕯️ Tune in. Underworld MAven — Learn the ropes, recipes, and symbols from the guides, guardians, lovers and p***y powerhouses. Turns out, something that you really need is hidden down here (but if you come and get it) 🌑 Learn more & join now. Free resources — Take grace’s free class EROS : INITIATOR ❤️‍🔥 — Learn what the Erotic actually is, why it's the answer to what's not healing in your life, and who it’s calling you to become — someone delighted and powerful Stay Connected — Subscribe to the podcast wherever you get your listens Visit grace's website Join the newsletter 💌 thanks for listening. peace, be well. 🙏

“Good Girl” consciousness isn’t a personality trait. It’s actually a rigid, self-righteous construct. It’s a way you’re trying to feel safe, loved and worthy; but truly it kills your desire, alienates you from others, diminishes your creativity and inhibits intimacy. In this episode, grace breaks down how the most common signs the good girl programming are running your nervous system, your relationships, and even your business. She traces where the programming comes from, why it often collapses into martyrdom or control, and what it takes to trade goodness for a more pleasurable, wild wholeness instead. We discuss — (0:33) what good girl consciousness is — a pattern in your nervous system and a paradigm about how the world works(6:55) not feeling “good enough” to want what you want(8:36) being rigid about everyone else’s behavior and beliefs(12:41) believing it’s your job to save others, and resenting those who aren’t trying to “save the world”(15:39) the real point of a spiritual practice is not being a good person(19:34) driven by the fear of being misunderstood and performing so people won’t leave you(33:41) the suffering artist story surrounding your gifts(40:02) pride in hyperindependence and the fear of “wanting too much”If you enjoyed the episode, check out — finding your true Gift 🎁RIP Good Girl 🪦from Judgement to Mystery 🌀Beyond Good & Bad 💫Mentioned in the episode— Join the waitlist for MA 🌹Check out VIRGIN ($77 masterclass) 🐍Send us a message! 💫 Candlefire — a private fireside chat for this Equinox season 🕯️ Tune in. Underworld MAven — Learn the ropes, recipes, and symbols from the guides, guardians, lovers and p***y powerhouses. Turns out, something that you really need is hidden down here (but if you come and get it) 🌑 Learn more & join now. Free resources — Take grace’s free class EROS : INITIATOR ❤️‍🔥 — Learn what the Erotic actually is, why it's the answer to what's not healing in your life, and who it’s calling you to become — someone delighted and powerful Stay Connected — Subscribe to the podcast wherever you get your listens Visit grace's website Join the newsletter 💌 thanks for listening. peace, be well. 🙏

Is uncertainty a feeling, a thought, a condition, or a curse? Is it a beautiful opportunity for wonder or a harrowing reminder of our finitude? In this episode, grace explores and answers these questions with Narinder Bazen — full spectrum death midwife, intuitive counselor, and founder of Nine Keys School of Death Arts. Together, they untangle how death is a sacred portal that pries our fingers from the false grip of certainty. And they remind us that uncertainty is with us every day — allowing presence and serendipity into our lives. Inside — Social norms and the desire for certaintyHow we conflate certainty with healing and feeling safeThe beauty of embracing an ordinary lifeUncertainty as a doorway to miraclesWhy you can be ok — even when ‘the world’s on fire’Creating flexibility in your consciousnessReaching up toward the face of DeathIf you enjoyed the episode, check out — NOW is the Seed for NextThe Initiation Deficit : Part 1More about our guest — Website: narinderbazen.comIG: @narinder.bazen.death.lifeNewsletter: narinderbazen.com/newsletterPodcast: Nine Keys & CoSend us a message! 💫 Candlefire — a private fireside chat for this Equinox season 🕯️ Tune in. Underworld MAven — Learn the ropes, recipes, and symbols from the guides, guardians, lovers and p***y powerhouses. Turns out, something that you really need is hidden down here (but if you come and get it) 🌑 Learn more & join now. Free resources — Take grace’s free class EROS : INITIATOR ❤️‍🔥 — Learn what the Erotic actually is, why it's the answer to what's not healing in your life, and who it’s calling you to become — someone delighted and powerful Stay Connected — Subscribe to the podcast wherever you get your listens Visit grace's website Join the newsletter 💌 thanks for listening. peace, be well. 🙏

Before you experience your full erotic capacity, you have to heal your scripts about intimacy. In this episode, grace is joined by Darshana Avila to discuss why so many adults feel disconnected from their bodies, their partners, and any sense of authentic pleasure. Darshana is a trauma-informed somatic educator, practitioner and international speaker who helps people reconnect with the most essential aspects of themselves — their truth, their desires, and their capacity for profoundly satisfying and genuinely intimate relationships. Inside — Why people pleasing is ruining your relationships — and your sex lifeIdentifying your embodied protectorsSimple practices for somatic orientationWhy so many adults know so little about pleasureHow to figure out what you actually enjoyFinding sensuality in natureWhy consent requires genuine desire If you enjoyed the episode, check out — R.I.P. Good GirlInitiation Deficit : Part 1Becoming a Lover: the Devotional work of Partnership More about our guest — DarshanaAvila.comDeeper with Darshana podcastSend us a message! 💫 Candlefire — a private fireside chat for this Equinox season 🕯️ Tune in. Underworld MAven — Learn the ropes, recipes, and symbols from the guides, guardians, lovers and p***y powerhouses. Turns out, something that you really need is hidden down here (but if you come and get it) 🌑 Learn more & join now. Free resources — Take grace’s free class EROS : INITIATOR ❤️‍🔥 — Learn what the Erotic actually is, why it's the answer to what's not healing in your life, and who it’s calling you to become — someone delighted and powerful Stay Connected — Subscribe to the podcast wherever you get your listens Visit grace's website Join the newsletter 💌 thanks for listening. peace, be well. 🙏

If your spiritual life feels more like a discipline than a joy — and your body feels more like used car than a temple — this podcast episode is for you. Most of us are really familiar with trying to be good, well behaved, and nice as the goal of our gifts and our practices. But what if we could liberate our relationships, intimacy, pleasure, and power instead? In this episode, grace re-introduces the show and explores the liberatory path of erotic devotion. Because when our wounds, fears, and secret desires emerge, they’re not coming up so we can judge ourselves and feel bad forever. They’re coming up so we can burn more brightly and become free. You can only be a true leader and lover from the path of erotic devotion. Tune in to embark on your journey of surrender, empowerment and ecstasy. we discuss — What the erotic is + is notHow to connect with sensuality + intimacyWhy destiny requires desireWays to get out of transaction mode and why that mattersThe paradox of power and surrenderWhy devotion is not about victimhood or obedience If you enjoyed the episode, check out — The Transformative Power of Desire & Devotion w— grace allerdice x Erin Kelleyerotic devotion for modern mysticsSend us a message! 💫 Candlefire — a private fireside chat for this Equinox season 🕯️ Tune in. Underworld MAven — Learn the ropes, recipes, and symbols from the guides, guardians, lovers and p***y powerhouses. Turns out, something that you really need is hidden down here (but if you come and get it) 🌑 Learn more & join now. Free resources — Take grace’s free class EROS : INITIATOR ❤️‍🔥 — Learn what the Erotic actually is, why it's the answer to what's not healing in your life, and who it’s calling you to become — someone delighted and powerful Stay Connected — Subscribe to the podcast wherever you get your listens Visit grace's website Join the newsletter 💌 thanks for listening. peace, be well. 🙏

What's underneath the frustration, resentment, guilt and plaguing sense that you're not doing enough to save the world? This un-embodied paradox is probably why your business isn’t working, why your creations don’t have that sparkle, why your mission isn’t moving, your creativity is stagnant, or your relationship is just… ok. Be sure to listen to the end, for a simple and portable embodiment practice to help you ground into the present moment. Send us a message! 💫 Candlefire — a private fireside chat for this Equinox season 🕯️ Tune in. Underworld MAven — Learn the ropes, recipes, and symbols from the guides, guardians, lovers and p***y powerhouses. Turns out, something that you really need is hidden down here (but if you come and get it) 🌑 Learn more & join now. Free resources — Take grace’s free class EROS : INITIATOR ❤️‍🔥 — Learn what the Erotic actually is, why it's the answer to what's not healing in your life, and who it’s calling you to become — someone delighted and powerful Stay Connected — Subscribe to the podcast wherever you get your listens Visit grace's website Join the newsletter 💌 thanks for listening. peace, be well. 🙏

What if you don’t have to “deserve” a beautiful life? But as long as you’re trying to be very, very good… you can’t actually have one? In this episode, grace unravels the false promises of the “good girl” and invites you to release the belief that being good is how you get what you want. Time to break out of good girl jail.   Send us a message! 💫 Candlefire — a private fireside chat for this Equinox season 🕯️ Tune in. Underworld MAven — Learn the ropes, recipes, and symbols from the guides, guardians, lovers and p***y powerhouses. Turns out, something that you really need is hidden down here (but if you come and get it) 🌑 Learn more & join now. Free resources — Take grace’s free class EROS : INITIATOR ❤️‍🔥 — Learn what the Erotic actually is, why it's the answer to what's not healing in your life, and who it’s calling you to become — someone delighted and powerful Stay Connected — Subscribe to the podcast wherever you get your listens Visit grace's website Join the newsletter 💌 thanks for listening. peace, be well. 🙏

Judgement and ideology are alive and well everywhere. But what if we left them behind and stepped toward Mystery? Listen in, and learn how to stop avoiding the Mysterious path and find the antidote to separation. We discuss — Why we choose judgement + ideology instead of uncertaintyWhat we’re really craving when we reach for GodHow to embrace the path toward Mystery“Everyone is God in drag.” — Ram DassWhy your body is not better or worse than your spiritHumble stewardship + discerning difference without judgement Send us a message! 💫 Candlefire — a private fireside chat for this Equinox season 🕯️ Tune in. Underworld MAven — Learn the ropes, recipes, and symbols from the guides, guardians, lovers and p***y powerhouses. Turns out, something that you really need is hidden down here (but if you come and get it) 🌑 Learn more & join now. Free resources — Take grace’s free class EROS : INITIATOR ❤️‍🔥 — Learn what the Erotic actually is, why it's the answer to what's not healing in your life, and who it’s calling you to become — someone delighted and powerful Stay Connected — Subscribe to the podcast wherever you get your listens Visit grace's website Join the newsletter 💌 thanks for listening. peace, be well. 🙏

Clark Strand was a Zen Buddhist monk. Now he writes books of love poetry to Kali Ma and manifestos to the Dark. In this conversation, we trace his spiritual path from childhood Protestantism through monasticism and massage school — ultimately leading him into deep devotion to the Divine Mother. Listen in, as we step into the Dark together. We discuss — the many paths of spiritual devotionthe patriarchal traditions of many world religionshow Clark encountered the Divine Motherfeeling safe in the darkwhy Now is the hourhuman civilization vs human culturethe power of simple-hearted devotionwriting poems for Kaliremembering our birdsong More about our guest — The Way of the Rose.orgWaking Up to the Dark, book by Clark StrandNow is the Hour of Her Return, book by Clark StrandMentioned in the episode — The Gospel of Sri RamakrishnaThe Gospel According to the DarkSend us a message! 💫 Candlefire — a private fireside chat for this Equinox season 🕯️ Tune in. Underworld MAven — Learn the ropes, recipes, and symbols from the guides, guardians, lovers and p***y powerhouses. Turns out, something that you really need is hidden down here (but if you come and get it) 🌑 Learn more & join now. Free resources — Take grace’s free class EROS : INITIATOR ❤️‍🔥 — Learn what the Erotic actually is, why it's the answer to what's not healing in your life, and who it’s calling you to become — someone delighted and powerful Stay Connected — Subscribe to the podcast wherever you get your listens Visit grace's website Join the newsletter 💌 thanks for listening. peace, be well. 🙏

In the second half of our conversation about Initiation, we’ll investigate what happens when we avoid initiation and how to recognize when we’re doing that. We discuss — The difference between spiritually mature individuals who embrace initiation versus those who avoid itHow lack of initiation keeps us stuck in adolescent emotional patternsWhy we struggle to connect with and embody powerful energiesThe importance of death and rebirth cycles in spiritual transformationHow to recognize and respond to initiation when it appears in our livesWhat is really behind the energy of initiation and what it could unlock Send us a message! 💫 Candlefire — a private fireside chat for this Equinox season 🕯️ Tune in. Underworld MAven — Learn the ropes, recipes, and symbols from the guides, guardians, lovers and p***y powerhouses. Turns out, something that you really need is hidden down here (but if you come and get it) 🌑 Learn more & join now. Free resources — Take grace’s free class EROS : INITIATOR ❤️‍🔥 — Learn what the Erotic actually is, why it's the answer to what's not healing in your life, and who it’s calling you to become — someone delighted and powerful Stay Connected — Subscribe to the podcast wherever you get your listens Visit grace's website Join the newsletter 💌 thanks for listening. peace, be well. 🙏

Today we explore why true transformation is so challenging in dominant Western culture. We discuss — Why change is not just about "knowing better"Two crucial ingredients of the forgotten art of InitiationWhy many people struggle to make sense of their transformational experiences + resist growthWhat the ego’s role is in all of thisWhat it means to come of age Send us a message! 💫 Candlefire — a private fireside chat for this Equinox season 🕯️ Tune in. Underworld MAven — Learn the ropes, recipes, and symbols from the guides, guardians, lovers and p***y powerhouses. Turns out, something that you really need is hidden down here (but if you come and get it) 🌑 Learn more & join now. Free resources — Take grace’s free class EROS : INITIATOR ❤️‍🔥 — Learn what the Erotic actually is, why it's the answer to what's not healing in your life, and who it’s calling you to become — someone delighted and powerful Stay Connected — Subscribe to the podcast wherever you get your listens Visit grace's website Join the newsletter 💌 thanks for listening. peace, be well. 🙏

Your Purpose is more about your Being than your doing. Join me as we step off the path of productivity and onto the path of alchemy. Send us a message! 💫 Candlefire — a private fireside chat for this Equinox season 🕯️ Tune in. Underworld MAven — Learn the ropes, recipes, and symbols from the guides, guardians, lovers and p***y powerhouses. Turns out, something that you really need is hidden down here (but if you come and get it) 🌑 Learn more & join now. Free resources — Take grace’s free class EROS : INITIATOR ❤️‍🔥 — Learn what the Erotic actually is, why it's the answer to what's not healing in your life, and who it’s calling you to become — someone delighted and powerful Stay Connected — Subscribe to the podcast wherever you get your listens Visit grace's website Join the newsletter 💌 thanks for listening. peace, be well. 🙏