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More leads won’t fix a roofing business that’s losing profit on every job. In this episode, Jim Ahlin draws on interviews with 300+ roofing business owners to answer 10 questions contractors ask most about marketing, pricing, building a stronger team, and preparing to sell. You’ll learn: - How to improve your roofing SEO, show up in AI search, and hold your marketing agency accountable - Why confusing markup with margin costs you profit—and how to price your jobs correctly - How to build clear processes, keep your best people, and prepare your business for a future sale Listen to the episode on Spotify & Apple Podcasts (330) 👇 🎧 https://roofingpod.com/spotify 🍏 https://roofingpod.com/apple-podcasts PODCAST SPONSORS: - Your Business Guide: https://yourbusinessguide.com - JobNimbus Marketing: https://roofingpod.com/jobnimbus-marketing-get-started - Day 41 Thrive: https://roofingpod.com/day-41-thrive IG: https://www.instagram.com/roofingsuccess/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/roofingsuccess Join Our Facebook Group: https://roofingpod.com/facebook 📱 Text Jim @ (612) 512-1812 – Say Hi! 💬 Leave Us a Review: https://roofingpod.com/review Chapters: 00:00 – 10 Questions Every Roofing Business Owner Asks 01:31 – What Actually Works for Roofing SEO? 07:00 – How Do Roofers Get Recommended by ChatGPT and AI? 11:01 – How to Choose the Right Roofing Marketing Agency 17:10 – Should You Hire an In-House Marketer or an Agency? 20:59 – How to Set Up Your Roofing CRM and Sales Pipeline 28:50 – Markup vs. Margin: Are You Pricing Jobs Correctly? 32:55 – How to Document and Improve Your Roofing Processes 38:26 – How to Run Employee Performance Reviews That Work

Bad hires cost your roofing company time, money, and growth. In this episode, Brian Alexander, founder of Ready Aim Climb, shares how to hire the right people, put them in the right roles, and build a team that can grow without you. You’ll learn: - Why most roofing companies hire the wrong people - How to find the right fit before you make a hire - How to use a 30, 60, 90-day plan to know if you hired the right person Connect with Brian: https://readyaimclimb.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/thebrianalexander Listen to the episode on Spotify & Apple Podcasts (329) 👇 🎧 https://roofingpod.com/spotify 🍏 https://roofingpod.com/apple-podcasts PODCAST SPONSORS:  - Your Business Guide: https://yourbusinessguide.com - JobNimbus Marketing: https://roofingpod.com/jobnimbus-marketing-get-started - Day 41 Thrive: https://roofingpod.com/day-41-thrive IG: https://www.instagram.com/roofingsuccess/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/roofingsuccess Join Our Facebook Group: https://roofingpod.com/facebook 📱 Text Jim @ (612) 512-1812 – Say Hi! 💬 Leave Us a Review: https://roofingpod.com/review Chapters: 0:00 Why Roofing Business Problems Come Down to People or Processes 1:04 How to Build a Team That Grows Without You 10:18 Why Your Leadership Might Be Holding Your Team Back 14:54 How to Define Success Before Hiring Someone 16:53 Which KPIs Should You Track to Measure Employee Performance? 22:37 How to Hire the Right Person for the Right Role 32:01 How Behavioral Assessments Improve Hiring Decisions 37:11 How to Build an Effective 30-60-90 Day Onboarding Plan 57:19 How to Retain Great Employees and Prevent Unexpected Turnover

Your roofing team knows what needs to get done, but nothing seems to change. You set goals, build processes, train your people, and still struggle to get everyone moving in the same direction. The problem may not be effort or training. It may be the people you hire, what they believe, and whether your team truly knows where the company is going. In this episode, Jim Ahlin sits down with Greg Cleary of Pinnacle Business Guides to unpack what keeps good roofing companies stuck. They discuss why roofing owners are really in the people business, why shared beliefs matter more than trying to change behavior, and how clear goals give great people the freedom to execute without being micromanaged.  In this episode, we talk about: How to identify and hire true A Players who fit your core values Why your company goals fail when your team isn’t aligned around the same destination How stronger leadership, purpose, and clarity create better executionConnect with Greg: https://pinnaclebusinessguides.com Listen to the episode on Spotify & Apple Podcasts (328) 👇 🎧 https://roofingpod.com/spotify 🍏 https://roofingpod.com/apple-podcasts PODCAST SPONSORS:  - Your Business Guide: https://yourbusinessguide.com - JobNimbus Marketing: https://roofingpod.com/jobnimbus-marketing-get-started - Day 41 Thrive: https://roofingpod.com/day-41-thrive IG: https://www.instagram.com/roofingsuccess/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/roofingsuccess Join Our Facebook Group: https://roofingpod.com/facebook 📱 Text Jim @ (612) 512-1812 – Say Hi! 💬 Leave Us a Review: https://roofingpod.com/review Chapters:  00:00 Why Your Roofing Team Struggles to Execute 02:05 Business Guide vs. Business Coach 05:45 Why Growing Roofing Teams Break Down 08:20 You’re in the People Business 11:30 How to Find and Hire A Players 15:30 Building Core Values That Actually Matter 20:10 Change the People or Change the Person? 22:15 Getting Your Team Aligned Around Purpose 27:00 Why Clear Goals Stop Micromanagement

Legacy Roofing went from just over $3 million in its first year to a projected $30+ million. In this episode, Lucas Poole shares how they built the people, leadership, and culture needed to grow that fast. You’ll learn: - Why Legacy builds a championship team instead of a “family” - What Lucas looks for when hiring and developing roofing sales reps - How developing more leaders helped Legacy scale into new markets Connect with Lucas: https://www.legacyroofinggc.com https://www.instagram.com/thelegacyroofing https://www.instagram.com/thelegacyroofing Listen to the episode on Spotify & Apple Podcasts (327) 👇 🎧 https://roofingpod.com/spotify 🍏 https://roofingpod.com/apple-podcasts PODCAST SPONSORS:  - JobNimbus Marketing: https://roofingpod.com/jobnimbus-marketing-get-started - Day 41 Thrive: https://roofingpod.com/day-41-thrive IG: https://www.instagram.com/roofingsuccess/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/roofingsuccess Join Our Facebook Group: https://roofingpod.com/facebook 📱 Text Jim @ (612) 512-1812 – Say Hi! 💬 Leave Us a Review: https://roofingpod.com/review Chapters: 00:00 – How Do You Build a Roofing Company Where Everyone Can Win? 01:14 – How Do You Get Started in Roofing Sales With No Experience? 09:33 – How Do You Choose the Right Roofing Company to Work For? 16:12 – How Do You Give Sales Reps a Reason to Stay? 18:36 – Should You Run Your Roofing Company Like a Family or a Team? 26:26 – How Do You Build a Commission Structure That Rewards Sales Reps? 35:11 – What Makes a Roofing Sales Rep Successful? 42:48 – How Do You Recruit and Train the Right Roofing Salespeople? 54:06 – How Do You Scale a Roofing Company From $3M to $30M?

The roofing business has ups and downs. John Famularo has survived them for 39 years. He’s watched prices rise, markets slow down, and roofing companies disappear. Through it all, ABC Roofing has kept moving forward. John says the key is knowing your numbers, taking care of your people, and being willing to change when the market changes. In this conversation, John shares: - How to protect your company when business slows down - Why keeping cash in the business matters - How great employees, service, and warranties create long-term growth The good years won’t last forever. Neither will the bad ones. Build your company to survive both. Connect with John: https://www.instagram.com/abcroofingcorp https://www.abcroofingcorp.com/about-abc-roofing-corp https://www.facebook.com/abcroofing Listen to the episode on Spotify & Apple Podcasts (326) 👇 🎧 https://roofingpod.com/spotify 🍏 https://roofingpod.com/apple-podcasts PODCAST SPONSORS:  - JobNimbus Marketing: https://roofingpod.com/jobnimbus-marketing-get-started - Day 41 Thrive: https://roofingpod.com/day-41-thrive IG: https://www.instagram.com/roofingsuccess/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/roofingsuccess Join Our Facebook Group: https://roofingpod.com/facebook 📱 Text Jim @ (612) 512-1812 – Say Hi! 💬 Leave Us a Review: https://roofingpod.com/review Chapters: 00:00 How to Build a Roofing Company That Survives Tough Times 01:58 How John Famularo Built ABC Roofing Over 39 Years 03:18 How to Keep a Roofing Company Profitable in a Down Market 10:23 How to Manage Cash Flow During Slow Roofing Seasons 13:34 How to Price Roofing Jobs Without Racing to the Bottom 18:22 How Referrals and Local Branding Drive Roofing Leads 20:48 How ABC Roofing Grew From One Truck to 50 Employees 28:12 How to Choose the Right Roofing Technology and Marketing Channels 40:36 How Service Work and New Services Protect Roofing Revenue 49:06 How to Build and Retain a Strong Roofing Team 56:01 Advice for Building a Roofing Business That Lasts

More revenue doesn’t always mean more profit. Duncan McClung learned this while growing Almost Heaven Roofing. His company started in general contracting and took on all kinds of work. But spreading the team too thin came with expensive lessons. Duncan eventually narrowed the company’s focus to roofing. Revenue dropped at first, but the bottom line improved substantially. In this conversation, Duncan shares: - Why learning to say “no” protects your profit - How to get sales and production working together - How to build a company that can run without you Sometimes scaling isn’t about doing more. It’s about getting focused, setting standards, and trusting the right people to do their jobs. Connect with Duncan: https://www.almostheavenroofing.com https://www.facebook.com/AlmostHeavenRoofing Listen to the episode on Spotify & Apple Podcasts (325) 👇 🎧 https://roofingpod.com/spotify 🍏 https://roofingpod.com/apple-podcasts PODCAST SPONSORS:  - JobNimbus Marketing: https://roofingpod.com/jobnimbus-marketing-get-started - Day 41 Thrive: https://roofingpod.com/day-41-thrive IG: https://www.instagram.com/roofingsuccess/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/roofingsuccess Join Our Facebook Group: https://roofingpod.com/facebook 📱 Text Jim @ (612) 512-1812 – Say Hi! 💬 Leave Us a Review: https://roofingpod.com/review Chapters: 00:00 Why Communication Matters in Roofing 00:48 From General Contracting to Roofing 03:53 Why Roofing Companies Need to Say No 08:23 How Specializing in Roofing Improved Profitability 11:56 Building a Production-First Roofing Company 14:46 Aligning Roofing Sales and Production 22:18 Hiring the Right People and Setting Standards 29:02 How Roofing Owners Can Stop Micromanaging 34:51 Improving the Roofing Customer Experience

What happens when your roofing company no longer has to wait for the next big storm to stay busy? In this episode of the Roofing Success Podcast, Jim Ahlin sits down with Daniel Cloteaux, founder of Cloteaux Roofing & Construction and a third-generation roofer, to talk about building a business that can succeed with or without a hurricane. Daniel shares how combining retail and insurance roofing changed his approach to growth, along with the leadership, hiring, and financial lessons he learned along the way. In this episode: • Building a roofing business that doesn’t depend on storms • Balancing retail and insurance roofing • Hiring, leadership, and building the right culture • Lessons from workers’ comp, taxes, and scaling Connect with John:  https://cloteauxroofing.com https://www.facebook.com/CloteauxRoofingandConstruction https://www.instagram.com/cloteauxroofing Listen to the episode on Spotify & Apple Podcasts (324) 👇 🎧 https://roofingpod.com/spotify 🍏 https://roofingpod.com/apple-podcasts PODCAST SPONSORS:  - JobNimbus Marketing: https://roofingpod.com/jobnimbus-marketing-get-started - Day 41 Thrive: https://roofingpod.com/day-41-thrive IG: https://www.instagram.com/roofingsuccess/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/roofingsuccess Join Our Facebook Group: https://roofingpod.com/facebook 📱 Text Jim @ (612) 512-1812 – Say Hi! 💬 Leave Us a Review: https://roofingpod.com/review Chapters: 00:00 How to Present Roofing Estimates to Homeowners 01:39 How Daniel Cloteaux Got Started in Roofing 07:33 How to Train Roofing Sales Reps to Inspect Roofs 09:46 How to Build a Better Roofing Sales Process 15:58 What Successful Roofing Sales Reps Do Differently 22:32 Why Rebranding Can Help a Roofing Company Grow 29:03 How to Hire and Lead a Roofing Sales Team 38:04 How to Grow a Roofing Company Without Storms 47:59 Expensive Roofing Business Mistakes to Avoid

What separates an average roofing company from an elite one? John Eggen, COO of Big League Roofers, believes it comes down to understanding. Listen before you speak. Inspect before you recommend. Educate instead of just sell. And make “above and beyond” the standard. In this episode, John and Jim Ahlin talk about building better salespeople, stronger leaders, and processes that help a roofing company grow without losing quality. John also shares how Big League Roofers is making the shift from insurance to retail, why losing on price isn’t always a loss, and why trust will beat being the cheapest contractor. As John puts it, “Roofs are what we build, but understanding is what we leave behind.” Connect with John:  https://bigleagueroofers.com https://www.facebook.com/bigleagueroofers https://instagram.com/bigleagueroofers https://www.youtube.com/@bigleagueroofers Listen to the episode on Spotify & Apple Podcasts (323) 👇 🎧 https://roofingpod.com/spotify 🍏 https://roofingpod.com/apple-podcasts PODCAST SPONSORS:  - JobNimbus Marketing: https://roofingpod.com/jobnimbus-marketing-get-started - Day 41 Thrive: https://roofingpod.com/day-41-thrive IG: https://www.instagram.com/roofingsuccess/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/roofingsuccess Join Our Facebook Group: https://roofingpod.com/facebook 📱 Text Jim @ (612) 512-1812 – Say Hi! 💬 Leave Us a Review: https://roofingpod.com/review Chapters: 02:18 From Roofing Supplier to Roofing Contractor 03:32 The Biggest Gaps in the Roofing Industry 07:39 If Your Customer Is Wondering, You’re Losing 09:29 Making “Above and Beyond” the Standard 11:59 How to Build High Standards Across Your Team 15:38 What Average Roofing Companies Get Wrong 17:11 Training Roofing Sales Reps to Be Professionals 19:31 Stop Measuring Only the Sale 23:15 The Leadership “Helicopter” View 27:21 How to Lead Without Becoming the Bottleneck 29:28 Turning Field Experience Into Better Processes 32:46 Building a Healthy Owner-COO Relationship 35:58 Making the Shift From Insurance to Retail Roofing 40:03 Building Trust Instead of Selling on Price 43:36 What to Do When You Lose on Price 48:29 A Leadership Lesson Learned the Hard Way 50:58 What the Roofing Industry Needs Right Now

Every roofing company wants to grow, but scaling without standards can turn small problems into big ones. Jonathan Baldivino started in roofing doing cleanup, worked his way up to installer, and eventually built Roofscapes Northwest. As the company grew, he learned that hard work alone wasn’t enough. He needed clear standards, better systems, the right numbers, and great people. In this episode, Jonathan and Jim Ahlin talk about building standards your team can actually follow, using data instead of gut feelings, hiring the right people, and knowing when your company is truly ready to scale. Learn more about Roofscapes Northwest:  https://www.roofscapesnw.com https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCtAlgA8Htp_ugQPZ7OCxeA https://www.instagram.com/roofscapes_nw/ https://www.facebook.com/Roofscapesnw Listen to the episode on Spotify & Apple Podcasts (322) 👇 🎧 https://roofingpod.com/spotify 🍏 https://roofingpod.com/apple-podcasts PODCAST SPONSORS:  - JobNimbus Marketing: https://roofingpod.com/jobnimbus-marketing-get-started - Day 41 Thrive: https://roofingpod.com/day-41-thrive IG: https://www.instagram.com/roofingsuccess/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/roofingsuccess Join Our Facebook Group: https://roofingpod.com/facebook 📱 Text Jim @ (612) 512-1812 – Say Hi! 💬 Leave Us a Review: https://roofingpod.com/review Chapters: 00:00 From Homeless to Roofing Business Owner 07:50 Turning a Roofing Career Into a Business 12:09 The Early Struggles of Running a Roofing Company 17:30 Building the Right Roofing Team 22:18 Why Roofing Companies Need Clear Standards 30:32 Building Systems to Grow a Roofing Business 37:41 The Marketing Metrics Roofing Companies Should Track 42:19 Why You Need to Say No to the Wrong Customers 47:32 Using Data and KPIs to Make Better Business Decisions 53:10 Systems, Hiring, and Scaling a Roofing Company

How do you build a roofing company that lasts? For Trey Hostetler, owner of Titan Roofing in Springfield, Ohio, it started with one simple belief. You're either growing or you're dying. In this conversation, Trey shares his journey from installing roofs to building one of the fastest-growing roofing companies in the country. We talk about leadership, hiring, company culture, mentorship, faith, and the lessons that shaped him along the way. If you're a roofing company owner looking to build a stronger team, become a better leader, and keep growing no matter what challenges come your way, you'll get a lot from this conversation. Learn more about Trey and Titan Roofing: https://commercialroofingtitans.com https://www.instagram.com/titanroofingllc https://www.facebook.com/tracroofing https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCli6opyMZXlwjMBYQE93EyA Listen to the episode on Spotify & Apple Podcasts (321) 👇 🎧 https://roofingpod.com/spotify 🍏 https://roofingpod.com/apple-podcasts PODCAST SPONSORS:  - JobNimbus Marketing: https://roofingpod.com/jobnimbus-marketing-get-started - Day 41 Thrive: https://roofingpod.com/day-41-thrive IG: https://www.instagram.com/roofingsuccess/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/roofingsuccess Join Our Facebook Group: https://roofingpod.com/facebook 📱 Text Jim @ (612) 512-1812 – Say Hi! 💬 Leave Us a Review: https://roofingpod.com/review Chapters: 00:00 Why Great Roofing Companies Are Built on Systems 00:36 Meet Trey Hostetler of Titan Roofing 02:55 From Roofing Installer to Business Owner 07:58 The Opportunity That Changed Everything 09:33 The Entrepreneur Mindset Every Roofer Needs 16:47 Why Coaching and Mentorship Accelerate Growth 24:34 Building a Roofing Company Culture That Lasts 33:58 Hiring Great Roofing Employees and Retaining Them 39:00 AI, Skilled Trades, and the Future of Roofing 42:37 Why Your Company Must Be Worth Following 48:44 Collaboration, Competition, and Long Term Success

What separates roofing companies that keep growing from the ones that struggle when the market changes? Jacob Vanhorn, CEO of Birdcreek Roofing, shares the systems, leadership principles, and sales strategies that have helped his company navigate both record-breaking storm years and slower retail markets. If you want to build a roofing company that lasts, this episode is packed with practical lessons. In this episode, you'll learn: - Why storms expose your processes while slow markets expose your people. - How to protect profit margins and build a stronger sales team. - The referral system that helped Birdcreek Roofing become the trusted name in its market. Connect with Jacob:  https://www.birdcreekroofing.com https://www.facebook.com/BirdcreekRoofing https://www.instagram.com/birdcreekroofing Listen to the episode on Spotify & Apple Podcasts (320) 👇 🎧 https://roofingpod.com/spotify 🍏 https://roofingpod.com/apple-podcasts PODCAST SPONSORS:  - JobNimbus Marketing: https://roofingpod.com/jobnimbus-marketing-get-started - Day 41 Thrive: https://roofingpod.com/day-41-thrive IG: https://www.instagram.com/roofingsuccess/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/roofingsuccess Join Our Facebook Group: https://roofingpod.com/facebook 📱 Text Jim @ (612) 512-1812 – Say Hi! 💬 Leave Us a Review: https://roofingpod.com/review Chapters: 00:00 Revenue Follows Systems, Not Sales 00:27 The Birdcreek Roofing Growth Story 05:41 How Storms Expose Broken Roofing Systems 11:22 Why Profit Matters More Than Revenue 16:18 Values That Build a Better Roofing Company 32:00 How to Win in a Tough Roofing Market 38:20 Building a Sales Team for Retail Roofing 46:11 Protecting Profit Margins During Slow Markets 52:58 How to Build a Referral Machine That Lasts

What does it take to build a roofing company that thrives without relying on storms? Stephen Lane of Roughneck Roofing shares how he built a strong retail roofing business by focusing on relationships, community involvement, and delivering an outstanding customer experience. In this episode, you'll learn: - How referral partners can create a steady stream of high-quality roofing leads. - Why customer communication is your biggest competitive advantage. - The lessons Stephen learned about cash flow, marketing, and growing a business the right way. Connect with Stephen:  🌐 https://roughneckroofingllc.com Listen to the episode on Spotify & Apple Podcasts (319) 👇 🎧 https://roofingpod.com/spotify 🍏 https://roofingpod.com/apple-podcasts PODCAST SPONSORS:  - JobNimbus Marketing: https://roofingpod.com/jobnimbus-marketing-get-started - Day 41 Thrive: https://roofingpod.com/day-41-thrive IG: https://www.instagram.com/roofingsuccess/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/roofingsuccess Join Our Facebook Group: https://roofingpod.com/facebook 📱 Text Jim @ (612) 512-1812 – Say Hi! 💬 Leave Us a Review: https://roofingpod.com/review Chapters: 00:00 Why Marketing Put Roughneck Roofing on the Map 00:29 From Oilfield to Roofing Company Owner 05:41 Cash Flow Lessons Every Roofing Business Must Learn 10:23 How Referral Partners Create Year-Round Roofing Leads 16:35 Community Marketing That Builds a Local Roofing Brand 29:00 The Customer Experience That Wins More Roof Sales 40:04 Why Roofers Lose Sales Through Poor Communication 46:59 Two-Call Close vs. One-Call Close for Roofing Sales 53:23 The Biggest Growth Challenge for Roofing Business Owners

Emily May is the owner of M&M Roofing in Texas. After spending 17 years as a nurse, she took a leap of faith and bought a roofing company with no industry experience. Since then, she has built M&M Roofing by focusing on branding, systems, technology, job costing, and creating an outstanding customer experience. In this episode, Emily shares what it was really like buying a roofing company with no roofing background, the lessons she learned along the way, and how she continues to grow her business. Whether you are looking to improve your leadership, strengthen your brand, or build a more profitable company, this conversation is packed with practical takeaways. Connect with Emily:  https://mandmroofingtexas.com https://www.facebook.com/p/M-M-Roofing-Texas-100088112251340/ https://www.instagram.com/mandm_roofingtexas/ Listen to the episode on Spotify & Apple Podcasts (318) 👇 🎧 https://roofingpod.com/spotify 🍏 https://roofingpod.com/apple-podcasts PODCAST SPONSORS:  - JobNimbus Marketing: https://roofingpod.com/jobnimbus-marketing-get-started - Day 41 Thrive: https://roofingpod.com/day-41-thrive IG: https://www.instagram.com/roofingsuccess/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/roofingsuccess Join Our Facebook Group: https://roofingpod.com/facebook 📱 Text Jim @ (612) 512-1812 – Say Hi! 💬 Leave Us a Review: https://roofingpod.com/review Chapters: 00:00 How a Nurse Bought a Roofing Company with No Experience 01:00 Why Buying a Small Business Beat Starting One 05:49 Buying a Roofing Company Without Financials or a CRM 10:47 Turning a 30-Year-Old Roofing Company into a Real Business 17:34 Job Costing Mistakes That Kill Roofing Company Profits 27:25 Buying a Commercial Roofing Company Through Acquisition 39:24 Roofing Marketing: How Branding Creates Long-Term Growth 46:20 How to Measure Brand Awareness with Google Search 55:40 What's Next for Emily May & M&M Roofing

Most roofing companies have a story, but Ted Sellers has built something truly different. In this interview, Ted shares how he went from working in marketing to building Sellers Roofing, one of the few Black-owned, union roofing companies in Minnesota. Along the way, he opens up about the hard lessons that shaped his business, from cash flow struggles and hiring mistakes to finding the right people and building a company that customers trust. We also talk about what it really means to be a union contractor, how it has helped his team deliver better work, and why focusing on education instead of high-pressure sales has been a big part of his growth. If you're a roofing company owner looking to build a stronger business, create a better customer experience, and stand out in a competitive market, you'll find plenty of practical lessons in this conversation. Connect with Ted:  https://roofingexpertsstpaul.com https://www.facebook.com/SellersRoofingCompanyNewBrighton https://www.instagram.com/roofingexpertsstpaul https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY5VMUhnAC5BwIpHym7h-2w Listen to the episode on Spotify & Apple Podcasts (317) 👇 🎧 https://roofingpod.com/spotify 🍏 https://roofingpod.com/apple-podcasts PODCAST SPONSORS:  - JobNimbus Marketing: https://roofingpod.com/jobnimbus-marketing-get-started - Day 41 Thrive: https://roofingpod.com/day-41-thrive IG: https://www.instagram.com/roofingsuccess/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/roofingsuccess Join Our Facebook Group: https://roofingpod.com/facebook 📱 Text Jim @ (612) 512-1812 – Say Hi! 💬 Leave Us a Review: https://roofingpod.com/review Chapters: 00:00 Why People Didn't Trust Me 00:39 Meet Ted Sellers 01:11 From Marketing to Roofing Business Owner 03:47 How Education Became His Best Sales Strategy 07:19 Growing Too Fast & Cash Flow Lessons 14:09 The Business Mistakes Every Contractor Should Avoid 17:30 Building Trust as a Black-Owned Roofing Company 29:08 Why Going Union Changed Everything 52:08 What Success Really Means

Everyone is talking about AI, zero-click searches, and the death of Google Ads. But is that actually what's happening? In this episode, Jim Ahlin digs into the numbers behind the headlines and explains why Google isn't walking away from advertising anytime soon. More importantly, he shares what roofing companies should be focusing on today to generate more leads, waste less ad spend, and stay competitive as search continues to evolve. If you're investing in Google Ads, paying an agency, or wondering how AI will impact your marketing, this episode will help you separate the hype from what's really happening. Listen to the episode on Spotify & Apple Podcasts (316) 👇 🎧 https://roofingpod.com/spotify 🍏 https://roofingpod.com/apple-podcasts PODCAST SPONSORS:  - JobNimbus Marketing: https://roofingpod.com/jobnimbus-marketing-get-started - Day 41 Thrive: https://roofingpod.com/day-41-thrive IG: https://www.instagram.com/roofingsuccess/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/roofingsuccess Join Our Facebook Group: https://roofingpod.com/facebook 📱 Text Jim @ (612) 512-1812 – Say Hi! 💬 Leave Us a Review: https://roofingpod.com/review Join our Roofing Success Skool community: https://www.skool.com/roofing-success/about Chapters: 00:00 Is AI Killing Google Search? 03:05 Does Google Still Make Money From Ads? 06:26 Are Google Ads Still Worth It for Roofers? 13:22 How AI Is Changing the Roofing Customer Journey 16:34 Why Speed to Lead Matters More Than Ever 19:18 How to Audit Your Google Ads Agency 29:18 How Negative Keywords Lower Your Cost Per Lead 35:32 The Biggest Google Ads Mistakes Roofers Make 44:27 The Future of AI, Google Ads, and Roofing Marketing