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Aleksandra Zuraw from Digital Pathology Place discusses digital pathology from the basic concepts to the newest developments, including image analysis and artificial intelligence. She reviews scientific literature and together with her guests discusses the current industry and research digital pathology trends.
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228: GPT-5 and Gemini 2.5 Pro read pathology slides - here is how they did…
2026/04/11
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I did something I've never done before for this episode — I went live from the middle of a national park. This is DigiPath Digest #42, broadcasting from the Great Sand Dunes National Park in Colorado via Starlink from my family road trip. Yes, it actually worked. And so did the papers.
This episode covers four papers that all ask the same uncomfortable question from different angles: how close is AI to being genuinely useful in real pathology practice — and what's still standing in the way? From LLMs interpreting cervical Pap smears, to AI guiding breast cancer treatment decisions from a simple H&E slide, to a practical roadmap for bringing generative AI into oncology workflows — this one covers a lot of ground.
I also introduced something new: my AI-powered paper summary podcast subscription. For $7 a month, AI hosts summarize digital pathology literature in a journal-club style so you can stay current without spending hours reading abstracts. I walk through how it works and why I built it.
What we cover:
[00:00] Going live from the wilderness — Starlink, sand dunes, and a very cold morning[02:01] How I use AI-generated audio summaries to prep for each DigiPath Digest[03:19] Paper 1: Can LLMs like ChatGPT and Gemini interpret cervical cytology? Spoiler: ~47–48% exact concordance — promising, but not there yet[10:23] Bonus: My new AI-powered paper summary subscription — $7/month, journal-club style[14:05] Paper 2: AI in oral oncology — CNNs for early lesion detection, multimodal prognostics, and the real barriers still blocking clinical adoption[20:28] Paper 3: Generative AI in oncology — from chat tools to agentic EHR-integrated assistants, and why augmentation is the goal, not automation[25:35] Paper 4: Computational pathology in breast cancer — predicting BRCA1/2, HER2, Oncotype DX, and treatment response from standard H&E slides[31:39] Final thought: the floor just got raised for all of us — how I think about new technology in pathologyResources & Links:
Paper 1 – LLMs & Cervical Cytology (PubMed): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41931983/Paper 2 – AI in Oral Oncology (PubMed): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41930554/Paper 3 – Generative AI in Oncology Practice (PubMed): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41930309/Paper 4 – AI & Digital Pathology in Breast Cancer (PubMed): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41930306/Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/live/O2hOU4gM0Bk?si=oH8iJ8HiBb29USG3Digital Pathology Place: https://www.digitalpathologyplace.comSupport the show
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223: You Don’t Need a Scanner to Start Digital Pathology | ACVP Podcast
2026/04/08
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You don't need a fancy scanner, a huge budget, or a computational background to get started in digital pathology. That's what I told the ACVP podcast — and I meant it. In this episode, I share my full digital pathology journey: from being completely intimidated by scanners during residency, to building a career that combines toxicologic pathology, image analysis, and remote work at a global CRO.
If you're a resident, a trainee, or even a seasoned pathologist who hasn't fully stepped into the digital space yet — this one's for you.
We talked about practical ways to get started, what foundation models actually mean for our daily work, how to build a team when implementing digital pathology at your institution, and why change management might be the most underestimated skill in this whole process.
What we cover:
[00:00] My background — from veterinary school in Poland to digital pathology[03:22] Why I chose industry over academia, and what that transition looked like[05:02] How a simple IHC side project became my entry point into digital pathology[07:11] How digital slides helped me pass my boards — and fall back in love with histopathology[10:24] My first job at a digital pathology image analysis company[12:00] What my current role at Charles River Laboratories looks like day-to-day[13:53] The best free resources for trainees to start exploring digital slides RIGHT NOW[15:26] Why pathologists need to understand image analysis principles — segmentation, classification, object detection[19:31] Foundation models, transformer architecture, and why annotation bottlenecks may soon be a thing of the past[24:13] Practical advice for institutions implementing digital pathology — equipment, teams, and managing resistance to change[27:30] How I unplug: trail running, weight training, and pathology-themed earringsResources & Links:
Joint Pathology Center (JPC) digital slides: https://www.jpc.orgDavis Thompson Foundation — Noah Slidebox: https://www.davisthomasonfoundation.orgQuPath (free, open-source image analysis): https://qupath.github.ioDigital Pathology Place: https://www.digitalpathologyplace.comWatch the full conversation on YouTube: https://youtu.be/wTDdlxJzq-A?si=xkz5YNljrUX5SnhdSupport the show
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222: From Slides to Survival: Can AI Close the Gap?
2026/04/06
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How close is pathology AI to making decisions that matter in real workflows, real trials, and real patient care?
In this episode of DigiPath Digest, I review five recent papers that approach that question from very different angles. We look at multimodal survival prediction in cervical cancer, pathology-driven response assessment in neoadjuvant immunotherapy for head and neck squamous cell carcinoma, AI-assisted Ki-67 scoring in pulmonary neuroendocrine neoplasms, automation and AI in hematologic diagnostics, and AI-based qFibrosis readouts from the Phase 3 MAESTRO-NASH trial.
What I liked about this set of papers is that they do not all tell the same story. Some show clear progress. Some show where AI already works well as an adjunct. Others make it very clear that validation, governance, reproducibility, and workflow design still matter just as much as model performance.
Key topics and timestamps
00:00 Introduction, Easter edition, and community updates 00:51 USCAP recap, signed book giveaway, and free Digital Pathology 101 PDF 02:04 Partnerships, lab automation preview, and what’s coming in this episode 03:25 Multimodal deep learning for cervical cancer survival prediction 13:00 Why pathology may be a better response endpoint than radiology in neoadjuvant HNSCC immunotherapy 23:09 Ki-67 scoring in pulmonary neuroendocrine neoplasms: pathologists vs two AI systems 33:46 AI, digital morphology, and automation in hematologic diagnostics 43:29 qFibrosis, digital biomarkers, and the MAESTRO-NASH Phase 3 trial 51:57 Closing thoughts, community updates, and Easter promotion Resources
Deep Learning Can Predict the Overall Survival of Cervical Cancer Based on Histopathological Image, Gene Mutation and Clinical Information
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41902378/
Modern Pathology-Driven Strategies in Neoadjuvant Immunotherapy for Head and Neck Squamous Cell Carcinoma: From Residual Tumor Quantification to Spatial and AI-Based Biomarkers
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41899621/
Ki-67 Proliferation Index in Pulmonary Neuroendocrine Neoplasms: Interobserver Agreement Among Pathologists and Comparison of Two Artificial Intelligence-Based Image Analysis Systems
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41898274/
Molecular Pathology, Artificial Intelligence, and New Technologies in Hematologic Diagnostics: Translational Opportunities and Practical Considerations
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41897649/
Quantitative regression of qFibrosis with resmetirom: Exploratory histologic endpoints from the MAESTRO-NASH phase III clinical trial
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211: USCAP2026-What Real Life Lab Partnership Looks Like in Digital Pathology with Hamamatsu & Agilent Technologies
2026/03/30
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Why do digital pathology projects get harder once the real workflow starts?
In this USCAP 2026 conversation, I talk with Robert Moody from Hamamatsu and Jake Eden from Agilent about what the conference theme, MAKING CONNECTIONS, looks like in actual digital pathology implementation. This was not just a conversation about products. It was a conversation about workflow. We talked about why consistent staining matters before scanning, why strong partnerships need a shared vision, and why labs increasingly want a simpler point of contact as they move into digital pathology.
One point I really liked is that the value of a partnership is no longer just in combining components. It is in reducing complexity for the lab. Robert and Jake explain how vendors increasingly act as guides during digital transformation, helping customers navigate technical decisions, implementation steps, and the many stakeholders involved beyond pathology itself. That includes IT, information security, legal, finance, and lab operations.
Another key theme is that no two deployments look the same. Some labs are centralized. Some are hub-and-spoke. Some outsource parts of the workflow. That is why future-proofing came up so strongly in this episode. Jake talks about keeping options open with open, agnostic workflows, and Robert makes the practical point that the most expensive thing you can do is the same implementation twice.
Key highlights
[00:22] Why this episode moves from high-level partnerships to what they look like in the lab [02:33] Why staining consistency matters for successful digital workflows [03:14] Shared vision, relationships, and why partnerships start with people [05:29] The idea of a single point of contact to reduce complexity for labs [08:32] Why vendors have become digital pathology guides [10:03] Why every deployment is unique [14:22] Future-proofing and choosing open, agnostic workflows [15:46] Why doing the same implementation twice is the expensive mistake to avoid Support the show
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210: Why Partnerships Matter in Digital Pathology with Hamamatsu
2026/03/27
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Why does digital pathology adoption move faster in some places than others?
In this USCAP 2026 conversation, I sat down with Robert Moody and Fumiya Fuji from Hamamatsu to talk about what the conference theme, MAKING CONNECTIONS, really looks like in practice. This was not just a scanner conversation. It was a workflow conversation.
We talked about why digital pathology has shifted from a scanner-first mindset to a solution-first one, and why that matters for labs trying to build workflows that actually work. Robert explained why partnerships now need to happen earlier, with software, hardware, and execution teams involved from the start. Fumiya added a global perspective, comparing adoption drivers across the US, Japan, Europe, and Canada, and explaining why local support systems, ROI, geography, and government backing can all change the pace of adoption.
One point I especially liked was this: digital pathology is not one product. It is an ecosystem. And if one component fails, the whole workflow can break down. That is why connected thinking matters so much right now. This episode is really about how companies, labs, and partners are learning to work more like a team.
Key highlights
[00:00] Why MAKING CONNECTIONS fits digital pathology so well [01:37] Why partnerships matter beyond the scanner [04:29] The shift from scanner-first to solution-first[04:58] How adoption differs across the US, Japan, Europe, and Canada [09:01] Why global collaboration inside Hamamatsu matters [10:50] How partnerships move from paper to real-world execution [12:55] Why does the USCAP show floor show a more connected industry [14:37] Why the next phase of digital pathology depends on interoperability and connected workflows
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209: USCAP 2026: Digital Pathology 101 With Hamamatsu
2026/03/23
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What makes digital pathology feel so hard to enter, even for smart people already working around it?
In this special USCAP conversation, Stephanie Fullerton from Hamamatsu turns the tables and interviews me about Digital Pathology 101 — the book I wrote for people who are starting or continuing their digital pathology journey.
We talk about why the book is not meant to be an exhaustive manual, but a practical framework. A way to help people see the full picture, ask better questions, and understand how the pieces of digital pathology fit together.
One of the biggest themes in this conversation is that digital pathology is a team effort. It is not just pathology. It involves scanners, software, image analysis, engineers, vendors, and people who often do not speak the same professional language.
That matters because sometimes getting the right answer starts with asking the right question.
We also talk about the challenge of translating expert knowledge into beginner-friendly language, why vendors often become guides as labs go through digital transformation, and why I think a shared vocabulary can make implementations smoother and more collaborative. Toward the end, we shift into the fun side of USCAP: signed book giveaways, stickers, pins, and ways to make connections at the conference.
Topics discussed
[00:03] Why Stephanie interviewed me this time, and the idea behind Digital Pathology 101[01:07] What the book is actually for: a framework, not a one-size-fits-all manual [04:07] The hardest part of writing for beginners without talking down to them [06:26] Why digital pathology implementation feels like a mountain, and how to lower the barrier [08:15] Why a shared vocabulary matters in digital pathology teams [09:44] Translating between pathologists, engineers, vendors, and marketing [11:26] Why vendors and partners often become guides during digital transformation [12:33] Who the book is for, including students and early-career professionals [13:33] Book signing, giveaways, and where to find me at USCAP [19:05] Stickers, pins, and why small things can help start real conversations at conferences Resources mentioned
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205: What Makes AI Useful in Pathology Beyond the Demo?
2026/03/21
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What happens when AI looks strong in a paper, but the workflow still isn’t ready?
In DigiPath Digest #40, I reviewed five recent papers across kidney pathology, oral and maxillofacial pathology, glioma biomarker prediction, digital twins in neuro-oncology, and a major European colorectal cancer cohort. A common theme kept coming back: good performance is not the same thing as real-world readiness.
We started with kidney biopsies and the challenge of assessing interstitial fibrosis and tubular atrophy, where AI shows promise but still does not fully agree with humans. That led into a bigger point I keep seeing in digital pathology: our “ground truth” is often based on human interpretation, and human interpretation has variability too.
From there, I looked at AI in oral and maxillofacial pathology, where the field is still early and one major bottleneck is the lack of strong public datasets. Then I discussed a systematic review on adult-type gliomas showing that multimodal models performed better than unimodal ones, which makes sense when you think about how pathologists actually work: we do not diagnose from one input alone.
I also covered a systematic review on digital twins in neuro-oncology. The idea is exciting, but the paper makes it clear that reproducibility, public code, multimodal integration, and external validation are still limiting factors.
And finally, I talked about a paper I really liked: a large European colorectal cancer cohort built across 26 biobanks in 12 countries. That kind of harmonized, quality-checked dataset matters. A lot. Because better AI starts with better data.
In this episode, I discuss:
Why AI vs human comparisons are harder than they first look the “gold standard paradox” in pathology Why multimodal AI keeps outperforming unimodal models What is holding digital twins back from broader use Why curated multicenter datasets are so important for digital pathology research Resources mentioned:
Digital Pathology 101 pdf copy Pathology AI Makeover Course DigiPath Digest AI-powered paper summaries Papers discussed:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41830415/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41826004/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41824546/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41823607/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41820399/
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196: DigiPath Digest #39 - If AI Sees More Than We Do. What Makes It Clinically Trustworthy?
2026/03/09
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If AI can detect patterns we cannot see, how do we know when its answers are clinically trustworthy?
In this episode of DigiPath Digest #39, I explore a big-picture question in digital pathology and medical AI. Many models now match or even exceed human performance in specific diagnostic tasks. But most of that evidence comes from controlled or retrospective datasets. So what happens when we try to bring these tools into real clinical workflows?
I review four recent papers that help frame this challenge and point toward the next steps for trustworthy AI in healthcare.
You will hear about the role of prospective validation, real-world effectiveness, transparent reporting standards, and multimodal data integration as recurring themes across these studies.
Key Highlights
00:00 – Introduction
What do we do when AI detects signals that humans cannot see? The core challenge is verifying those outputs before trusting them in clinical decision making.
03:32 – AI Across the Healthcare Continuum
A narrative review shows AI achieving clinician-level performance in well-defined imaging tasks, including digital pathology. But most evidence comes from retrospective or controlled environments, and prospective validation remains limited.
08:34 – Multi-Omics and AI in Gastric Biopsy Diagnostics
Morphology alone cannot fully capture molecular heterogeneity or predict disease progression. Integrating genomics, proteomics, metabolomics, and other omics with AI is shifting gastric pathology toward data-driven precision gastroenterology.
13:38 – Hyperspectral Imaging for Real-Time Surgical Guidance
Spectral imaging can analyze tissue composition during surgery without staining, freezing, or contact with the tissue. Studies show promising sensitivity for detecting malignancy and supporting intraoperative decision making.
17:20 – REFINE Reporting Guideline for Foundation Models and LLMs
An international consensus guideline introduces a 44-item reporting checklist to standardize how AI studies are described. The goal is transparent, reproducible, and comparable research in medical AI.
22:35 – Big Takeaway
AI should be viewed as clinical decision support, not a replacement for clinicians. Real-world validation, ethical governance, and reproducible research standards will determine how these tools enter pathology workflows.
References (Articles Discussed)
Artificial Intelligence in Healthcare: From Diagnosis to Rehabilitation
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41755929/
Transforming Gastric Biopsy Diagnostics: Integrating Omics Technologies and Artificial Intelligence
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41751306/
From Image-Guided Surgery to Computer-Assisted Real-Time Diagnosis with Hyperspectral and Multispectral Imaging
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41750768/
REFINE Reporting Guideline for Foundation and Large Language Models in Medical Research
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41762555/
If you enjoy staying current with digital pathology and AI research, this episode will help you connect the dots between promising algorithms and practical clinical adoption.
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191: Hallucinations, Agents, and AI in Pathology
2026/03/02
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Clinical Artificial Intelligence in 2026. Accuracy, Education, and Guardrails
Artificial intelligence is evolving fast in medicine. But how accurate is it. And are we building it safely?
In this episode of DigiPath Digest, I review five new studies shaping digital pathology, radiology, burn diagnostics, and agent-based large language model systems. We discuss accuracy gains, hallucination filtering, education challenges, and why safeguards are essential before clinical deployment.
Clear. Practical. Evidence-based.
⏱ Topics & Timestamps
[00:02] Introduction
Weekly journal club on digital pathology and artificial intelligence.
[05:13] Hallucination Filtering in Radiology
Using Discrete Semantic Entropy to detect hallucination-prone responses in Vision Language Models.
Accuracy improved from 51.7 percent to 76.3 percent after filtering high-entropy answers.
[15:04] Artificial Intelligence in Pathology Training
Supervised use during residency.
Balancing artificial intelligence adoption with preservation of morphological analysis and critical thinking.
[20:12] Colorectal Cancer Lymph Node Detection
Two-stage classification and segmentation model in Whole Slide Imaging.
Recall 1.0. Specificity 0.935. Dice coefficient 0.818.
Artificial intelligence as a second opinion.
[25:04] Burn Depth Prediction with Artificial Intelligence
Tissue Doppler Elastography and Harmonic B-mode ultrasound combined with artificial intelligence.
90 to 95 percent accuracy in human subjects.
[31:20] Agent-Based Large Language Model Systems
OpenManus and Manus evaluated in clinical simulations.
Up to 60.3 percent accuracy. High computational cost.
89.9 percent of hallucinations filtered by safeguards.
[40:08] Patient Access to Pathology Images
Why viewing pathology slides can empower patients and improve communication.
Resources
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41720937/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41720644/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41716065/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41709317/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41708802/Support the show
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190: Can a Better Stain Improve AI in Pathology?
2026/02/24
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What if one of the biggest sources of diagnostic variability in prostate cancer isn’t the pathologist—but the stain we’ve trusted for decades?
In this episode, I speak with Professor Ingid Carlbom, founder of CADESS.AI, about a different way to approach prostate cancer grading—by rethinking staining, segmentation, and AI decision support from the ground up. We explore why 30–40% interobserver variability persists in Gleason grading and how optimized stains combined with explainable AI can significantly reduce that uncertainty.
Ingrid shares her journey from applied mathematics and computer science into pathology, the skepticism she faced in 2008, and why CADESS.AI chose not to “optimize H&E,” but instead developed a Picrosirius red + hematoxylin stain designed specifically for computational pathology. We discuss how grading at the gland and cellular level improves reproducibility, why explainability matters for trust, and what it really takes to build both stain and software as a single diagnostic workflow.
This conversation challenges long-held assumptions—and asks whether improving data quality should come before building smarter algorithms.
Highlights:
[00:00–01:08] The problem: 30–40% disagreement in prostate cancer grading[01:08–03:03] Ingrid’s path from applied math to digital pathology[03:03–04:58] Early skepticism toward AI in pathology and fear of replacement[04:58–08:56] Why H&E limits segmentation—and how a new stain changes that[10:55–15:09] Clinical testing: non-inferiority, AI assistance, and NCCN risk stratification[19:47–22:59] Explainable UI: color-coded glands and pathologist override[26:16–27:29] Why grading glands (not whole slides) reduces variability[38:09–41:47] Regulatory challenges of combined stain + AI devices[45:52–48:55] The future of optimized stains in routine pathology
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189: Digital Pathology Deployment Decoded the Rigorous 4 Phase Framework
2026/02/24
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Sometimes a paper comes out that’s so practical and relevant to what we do in digital pathology that I know we have to talk about it.
In this episode, I dive into “A Guide for the Deployment, Validation and Accreditation of Clinical Digital Pathology Tools” from Geneva University Hospital (HUG) — one of the most useful, real-world frameworks I’ve seen for bringing digital pathology tools safely into clinical practice.
If you’ve ever built an AI model and wondered, “Now what?”, this episode is for you.
Because building the model is often the easy part — deployment is where things get complex.
This guide breaks the process into four practical phases every lab can follow:
1️⃣ Pre-Development – Define your clinical need, project scope, and validation plan before writing a single line of code.
2️⃣ Development – Build and integrate the algorithm in a production-ready environment.
3️⃣ Validation & Hardening – Turn your research code into a reliable, secure, and compliant clinical tool.
4️⃣ Production & Monitoring – Keep the tool validated and performing consistently over time.
We also discuss what makes qualification, validation, and accreditation different — and why that order really matters.
You’ll hear about the multidisciplinary team behind these deployments, especially the deployment engineer (DE) — the technical linchpin who turns AI research into clinical reality.
I share the story of HUG’s H. pylori detection tool, which cut diagnostic time by 26% while maintaining a 0% false negative rate. The team’s secret? Careful planning, quality control, and continuous user feedback — not just great code.
Other highlights include:
Why integration often takes longer than building the AI model itselfHow to avoid invalidating your validation dataWhat continuous performance monitoring looks like in real labsAnd why every lab still needs to do local validation, even with proven toolsIf you’re working on digital or computational pathology tools — or just want to understand how AI safely moves from research to routine diagnostics — this episode will give you a roadmap grounded in real experience.
🎧 Listen now to learn how to move from algorithm to accreditation, step by step.
And if you’re just getting started in digital pathology, I’d love to give you my free eBook, Digital Pathology One-on-One: All You Need to Know to Start and Continue Your Digital Pathology Journey.
You’ll find the link to download it in the show notes.
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188: AI in Pathology: Biomarkers, Multimodal Data & the Patient
2026/02/21
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Is AI in pathology actually improving diagnosis — or just adding complexity?
In DigiPath Digest #37, we reviewed four recent publications covering AI-based biomarker quantification in glioblastoma, real-world digital workflow integration in prostate cancer, multimodal AI combining histopathology and genomics, and patient perspectives on AI in cancer diagnostics.
This episode connects technical performance with something equally important: trust.
Episode Highlights
[00:02] Community & updates
Digital Pathology 101 free PDF, upcoming patient-focused book, and global attendance.
[04:07] AI-based image analysis in glioblastoma
AI showed strong consistency with pathologists when quantifying Ki-67, P53, and PHH3.
Significant biological correlations (Ki-67 ↔ PHH3, PHH3 ↔ P53) were detected by AI — not by manual assessment.
Takeaway: computational quantification improves precision.
[09:28] Real-world digital workflow + AI in prostate cancer (France)
AI-pathologist concordance:
• 93.2% (high probability cancer detection)
• 99.0% (low probability slides)
Gleason concordance: 76.6%
10% failure rate due to pre-analytical artifacts.
Takeaway: infrastructure and sample quality still matter.
[15:58] Multimodal AI (MARBIX framework)
Combines whole slide images + immunogenomic data in a shared latent space using binary “monograms.”
Performance in lung cancer: 85–89% vs 69–76% unimodal models.
Takeaway: integrated data improves case retrieval and similarity reasoning.
[22:13] AI-powered paper summary subscription introduced
Structured summaries for busy professionals who want more than abstracts.
[26:17] Patient roundtable on AI in pathology (Belgium)
Patients expect:
• Better accuracy
• Faster turnaround
• Stronger collaboration
Trust is high when:
• Algorithms use diverse datasets
• Pathologists retain final responsibility
Clinical validity mattered more than full algorithm transparency.
Privacy concerns focused more on insurer misuse than cloud transfer.
Key Takeaways
AI improves biomarker precision in glioblastoma.Digital pathology implementation works — but pre-analytics can limit AI performance.Multimodal AI represents the next meaningful step in precision diagnostics.Patients are not afraid of AI — they want validation, oversight, and governance.Human–AI collaboration remains central.If you’re working in digital pathology, computational pathology, or precision oncology, this episode connects evidence, implementation, and patient perspective.
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184: Digital Pathology Guidelines: What Every Lab Must Get Right
2026/02/20
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What actually needs to be in place before digital pathology can replace the microscope?
In this episode of DigiPath Digest, I walk through the 2026 Polish Society of Pathologists guidelines and translate them into practical steps for real pathology labs. This isn’t theory. It’s about hardware fidelity, data integrity, validation, and AI integration — and what each of these actually requires in daily workflow.
We talk about scanner resolution standards (≤0.26 μm per pixel), 4K monitor calibration, visually lossless compression (20:1), scalable storage, pathologist-driven validation, and what “non-inferiority” truly means.
Digital pathology is not just a change of medium. It’s an operational shift.
Episode Highlights
[00:02] Community & growth
1,600+ new newsletter subscribers, 10,000+ Facebook members, and free Digital Pathology 101 book access.
[07:20] The 4 pillars of adoption
Hardware fidelity · Data integrity · Clinical validation · Future integration.
[08:30] Hardware requirements
40x equivalent scanning (≤0.26 μm/px), 4K monitors, >300 cd/m² luminance, 10-bit color depth.
[12:00] Workflow & throughput
200–300 slides/day per scanner, automated focus control, urgent case prioritization.
[17:25] Storage & archiving
~1 GB per slide. Active archive (6–24 months). Long-term retention (10–20 years). GDPR compliance & TLS encryption.
[23:09] Validation philosophy
Pathologist-centered validation.
Two phases:
• Familiarization (~20 retrospective cases)
• Dual review with discrepancy tracking
Goal: digital must be non-inferior to glass.
[29:03] AI in digital pathology
AI supports quantification (Ki-67, HER2, ER/PR, PD-L1), tumor detection, and future multimodal predictions — but pathologists remain central.
[33:26] Intraoperative telepathology
5-minute scan-to-view time.
Minimum 100 Mbps upload.
Redundancy and safety protocols required.
[34:50] Can digital cameras replace scanners?
Hybrid workflows exist. Regulatory compliance still applies.
[38:19] Adoption checklist summary
Certified scanners (CE-IVD/FDA), calibrated monitors, scalable storage, phased validation, and documented QC.
Key Takeaways
Digital pathology adoption is a structured process — not just buying a scanner.Validation is individualized and tissue-specific.Infrastructure and quality control are as important as image quality.AI enhances reproducibility and quantification but does not replace pathologists.Regulatory compliance and data governance are non-negotiable.Support the show
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182: AI, Quality, and Standards: The Next Chapter of Digital Pathology
2026/02/08
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This session is a practical walkthrough of where digital pathology and AI truly stand in early 2026—based on five recent PubMed papers and real-world implementation experience.
In this episode, I review new clinical adoption guidelines, AI applications in liver cancer imaging and pathology, AI-ready metadata for whole slide images, non-destructive tissue quality control from H&E slides, and machine learning–assisted IHC scoring in precision oncology.
This conversation is not about hype. It’s about standards, validation, data integrity, and clinical translation—the factors that decide whether AI tools stay in research or reach patient care.
Episode Highlights
01:21 – Practical digital pathology adoption guidelines (Polish Society of Pathologists)08:05 – AI in liver cancer imaging & pathology, and why framework alignment matters18:10 – AI-generated tissue maps as metadata for WSI archives23:01 – PathQC: predicting RNA integrity and autolysis from H&E slides32:14 – ML-assisted IHC scoring in genitourinary cancers29:42 – Digital Pathology 101 book + community updatesKey Takeaways
Digital pathology adoption still requires clear standards and validation workflowsAI performs best when aligned with existing diagnostic frameworks (e.g., LI-RADS)Metadata extraction is a low-effort, high-impact AI use caseSlide-based quality control can support biobanking and biomarker researchAutomated IHC scoring improves consistency—but adoption remains uneven globallyResources Mentioned
Digital Pathology 101 (free PDF & audiobook)Publication Links: a. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41618426/ b. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41616271/ c. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41610818/ d. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41595938/ e. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41590351/
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181: Can AI Read Clinical Text, Tissue, and Costs Better Than We Can?
2026/01/24
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What happens when artificial intelligence moves beyond images and begins interpreting clinical notes, kidney biopsies, multimodal cancer data, and even healthcare costs?
In this episode, I open the year by exploring four recent studies that show how AI is expanding across the full spectrum of medical data. From Large Language Models (LLM) reading unstructured clinical text to computational pathology supporting rare kidney disease diagnosis, multimodal cancer prediction, and cost-effectiveness modeling in oncology, this session connects innovation with real-world clinical impact.
Across all discussions, one theme is clear: progress depends not just on performance, but on integration, validation, interpretability, and trust.
HIGHLIGHTS:
00:00–05:30 | Welcome & 2026 Outlook
New year reflections, global community check-in, and upcoming Digital Pathology Place initiatives.
05:30–16:00 | LLMs for Clinical Phenotyping
How GPT-4 and NLP automate phenotyping from free-text EHR notes in Crohn’s disease, reducing manual chart review while matching expert performance.
16:00–23:30 | AI Screening for Fabry Nephropathy
A computational pathology pipeline identifies foamy podocytes on renal biopsies and introduces a quantitative Zebra score to support nephropathologists.
23:30–29:30 | Is AI Cost-Effective in Oncology?
A Markov model evaluates AI-based response prediction in locally advanced rectal cancer, highlighting when AI delivers value—and when it does not.
29:30–38:30 | LLM-Guided Arbitration in Multimodal AI
A multi-expert deep learning framework uses large language models to resolve disagreement between AI models, improving transparency and robustness.
38:30–44:30 | Real-World AI & Cautionary Notes
Ambient clinical scribing in practice, AI hallucinated citations, and why guardrails remain essential.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
• LLMs can extract meaningful clinical phenotypes from narrative notes at scale
• AI can support rare disease diagnosis without replacing expert judgment
• Economic value matters as much as technical performance
• Explainability and arbitration are becoming critical in multimodal AI systems
• Human oversight remains central to responsible adoption
Resources & References
Digital Pathology Place: https://www.digitalpathologyplace.comDigital Pathology 101 (free PDF, updates included)Automating clinical phenotyping using natural language processingZebra bodies recognition by artificial intelligence (ZEBRA): a computational tool for Fabry nephropathyCost-effectiveness analysis of artificial intelligence (AI) for response prediction of neoadjuvant radio(chemo)therapy in locally advanced rectal cancer (LARC) in the NetherlandsA multi-expert deep learning framework with LLM-guided arbitration for multimodal histopathology predictionSupport the show
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Ballsack1234556677888999900000 2022/02/27
Great podcast for digital pathology
Dr. Zuraw does a great job of explaining the basics and also the advanced state of the art. Enjoy learning a lot from these podcasts.
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