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Everyone welcome one of the most enthusiastic people we’ve had on the bus, Kenny Barnwell! Over the past 20 years, Kenny has worked his way up from a local stagehand to touring with Bon Jovi, Justin Bieber, and Ariana Grande. Kenny also is the co-founder of Freedom Music events, an author, and teaches online courses for crew careers. Let's get ready for this week’s episode of Don’t Shit on the Bus!   In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn: • What someone can do to level up as a stagehand • How Kenny went from living in his car to touring with A-list artist • The value of working for free at the beginning in the music industry • What Kenny believes people on the road now can do to help out new stagehands (00:00) Intro (03:05) Patreon (03:59) Kenny gets on the bus (06:12) How Kenny got started in the music industry (17:04) Working for free (19:31) How stagehands are hired on (21:14) How Kenny transitioned into touring (27:38) What is a stagehand (33:12) It's all about who knows you (35:10) Missteps when reaching out to someone (40:24) Can you be a good hang on tour (43:38) Being a stagehand is like paid training (48:07) First steps to being hired as a local stagehand (55:22) Leveling up from a stagehand (01:05:37) What people on the road can do now to help new stage hands out (01:11:00) Wrap up notes --- Kenny Barnwell - Guest ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thekennybarnwell ► Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kennybarnwell ► Crew Coach: https://freedommusicevents.com/crew-coach ► Back Stage Crew Careers: https://www.instagram.com/backstagecrewcareers --- Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast ► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com ► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify ► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple ► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast ► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast ► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast ► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB --- Adam Elmakias - Host ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias ► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com --- Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

Connor made me write the caption this week…. Because we have Connor on the podcast! Everyone welcome our very own producer, editor, and resident good vibes advocate Connor Gaskey. Connor is on his first. tour. ever. And I couldn’t be more proud, excited, and thrilled for him. Of course, it’s only right we snag him for a day to talk to him about what he has been up to. In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn: • How Connor was able to network his way onto his first tour • What skills Connor has learned while on the road • The importance of being organized and clean on a bandwagon • What it’s like to work so one on one with BoywithUke (00:00) Intro (01:29) Patreon (02:22) Connor gets on the bus (03:45) How Connor networked his way to getting his first tour (06:59) Connor reached out to other photographers (10:07) Stuff you need to know before going on the road (12:32) First day on tour (19:05) Rules of a bandwagon (19:54) Stories from the road (26:28) Days seem the same on the road (29:14)  Daily routine on tour (33:04) Staying healthy on tour (35:05) The show (36:15) Working one on one with BoywithUke (38:46) Recognizing things Connor learned from the podcast on tour (40:27) One thing of touring Connor did not expect (41:17) Shower shoes (41:27) Using skills learned from off the road on tour (42:25) Things Connor is trying to improve on while touring (43:28) Wrap up notes --- Connor Gaskey - Guest ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/connortherealgaskey ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/cjgaskey ► Website: https://www.connorgaskey.com --- Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast ► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com ► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify ► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple ► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast ► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast ► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast ► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB --- Adam Elmakias - Host ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias ► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com --- Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

Let's welcome Chris Lent to the podcast this week! Chris is a drum tech, drummer, and stage manager. Chris has played with From First To Last, I Set My Friends On Fire - and is currently in The Villa and Pretty Idiiot.  He is currently stage manager for Polyphia. The path Chirs has made into the music industry is one of the most rock n roll ways and it’s incredible to chat with him about how he kept leveling up his career. He’s a guy of many talents both as a crew member as well as being in a couple of his own bands. There’s a lot to learn about being a great hang on the road in this one so get ready for this week’s episode of  Don’t Shit on the Bus!   In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn: • Why Chris makes friends with all his crew mates on tour • How Chris has worked with and been in several bands over his music career • The importance of leaving your ego at the door when going out on the road • What happened in the viral video Chris was in (00:00) Intro (01:57) Patreon (03:03) Chris gets on the bus (03:16) Chris's viral video (12:06) Scaling up with Polyphia (13:23) Going from drum tech to stage manager (14:47) How Chris started touring (18:42) Stories from the road (26:02) Chris on joining I See My Friends on Fire (30:35) Who Chris is currently touring with (35:09) Working off the road (38:39) Working without an ego (40:02) Taking a break from music (43:55) Creating relationships with crew members (50:48) How to be a good guest on stage (55:35) Wrap up notes (56:01) Shower Shoes --- Chris Lent - Guest ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/PrettyIdiiot ► The Vila: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ae8KWCsJNw --- Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast ► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com ► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify ► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple ► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast ► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast ► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast ► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB --- Adam Elmakias - Host ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias ► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com --- Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week on the podcast let's welcome Angie Warner who is a tour manager. Angie has toured with artists such as Post Malone, Jay-Z, and is the western residency tour manager for BTS. It’s incredible how much Angie has accomplished in her 22 years in the music industry, this episode felt like Angie was telling stories around a bonfire. She’s truly one of the best at what she does and her insight of arena-filling talent is something you won’t want to miss. There’s so much to learn this week so get comfy, grab a good drink, and enjoy another week of Don’t Shit on the Bus! In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn: • How Angie has been able to work with some of the biggest names in the music industry • What it’s like tour manage arena level show with Post Malone and BTS is like • How important security becomes at larger scale music events • The type of security measures that are needed for larger-scale music events (00:00) Intro (02:15) Patreon (02:47) Angie gets on the bus (07:47) How Angie got started in the music industry (13:43) How to stand out as a runner (16:56) Morals Angie lives by when teaching others in the industry (21:10) How touring has changed over the last 20 years (25:08) How Angie has worked with the artist she’s toured with (32:14) What a tour manager has to do at different levels of touring (40:47) Angie's routine on tour (43:22) Getting a tour dog (49:40) What security is like on arena level tours (01:00:13) Wrap up notes (01:01:01)Shower Shoes --- Angie Warner - Guest ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kidang711 ► Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kidang --- Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast ► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com ► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify ► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple ► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast ► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast ► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast ► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB --- Adam Elmakias - Host ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias ► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com --- Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week on the podcast let's welcome Mike Finn who is a tour manager. Mike has toured with artists such as Mayday Parade, Dillon Francis, and Thomas Rhett. This episode has a ton of quotable moments and incredible insight for those trying to, not only tour, but tour in the country music scene. Mike really lays out how different genres of music operate and how he has adapted to each one. It’s a fun one so you won’t want to miss this week’s episode of Don’t Shit on the Bus.   In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn: • How Mike was able to accumulate different skill sets from a variety of music genres • What Mike believes is the most important thing to do to get on your first tour • About Mike’s transition into work in the country music world • The importance of adapting your personality to the style of touring you are on (00:00) Intro (01:37) Patreon (02:34) Mike gets on the bus (05:29) How Mike got started in the music industry (10:01) What skills Mike picked up while touring in the pop-punk world (14:43) Moments that make Mike feel like he's made it (16:53) How Mike was able to tour with a variety of different artist (26:35) How to end a relationship with an artist on a good note (30:08) Mike touring with Thomas Rhett (34:25) What Mike considers before taking on a tour (37:54) How country touring works (43:33) Knowing when you to adapt your personality on tour (49:41) Wrap up notes (52:41)Shower Shoes --- Mike Finn - Guest ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikexfinn ► Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mikexfinn --- Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast ► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com ► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify ► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple ► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast ► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast ► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast ► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB --- Adam Elmakias - Host ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias ► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com --- Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

We are having another tour check-in, lets's welcome on the bus, Hannah Filbey. Hannah is a production coordinator currently on the road with Greta Van Fleet and was kind enough, after a 20-hour travel day, to chat with us. Thank you so much for taking the time to not sleep and helping us learn more about your job Hannah. In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn: • The difficulties of being a woman on the road • How Hannah went from local catering to touring internationally with Greta Van Fleet • What it’s like being on a headlining tour and a supporting act tour • Which local jobs you can do get to gain the skills to be a production coordinator (00:00) Intro (01:58) Patreon (02:27) Hannah gets on the bus (02:34) How Adam met Hannah (04:36) Events that Hannah has planned on tours (07:30) Hannah touring with Gretta Van Fleet (10:20) How Hannah went from Korn to Gretta Van Fleet (15:28) South America tour (16:15) Difference between a headliner tour and a supporting tour (18:02) Knowing what needs to be done for a tour (23:27) What Hannah to prep to do for the South American tour (31:17) Catering stories (33:07) What you need to do to become a production coordinator (38:52) What a support band can and can't do on a tour (45:29) Being a woman on tour (54:08) What makes Hannah accept or decline a tour (01:01:42) Wrap up notes (01:04:07) Shower Shoes --- Hannah Filbey - Guest ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hanclairabelle ► Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hanclairabelle --- Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast ► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com ► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify ► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple ► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast ► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast ► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast ► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB --- Adam Elmakias - Host ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias ► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com --- Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week on the podcast lets welcome Jake Chams who is a tour photographer and videographer. Jake has toured with artists such as Panic At The Disco, Lorde, and Marshmello. This episode has a ton of great lessons on why everyone should keep an open mind to learning while on the road. There’s a ton of laughing in this one so brace yourself for another week of Don’t Shit on the Bus. In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn: • How impactful a photographer/videographer is on a tour • Why Jake always has an open mind to learning on tour • About Jake’s major injury from touring • When you to have your camera ready and when to put it away around artists (00:00) Intro (02:11) Patreon (02:37) Jake gets on the bus (03:55) How Jake got on tour with Panic at the Disco (10:28) Knowing social boundaries (14:37) Being opened to learning (19:50) Wearing multiple hats on tour (22:48) Niche jobs at different touring levels (25:13) Why artist want someone for both photo and video (28:51) What makes the music industry so brutal (30:58) Experienced photographer/videographer vs new photographer/videographer (35:59) Jake's accident (43:29) How Jake prepares for a tour (48:20) Wrap up notes (48:25) Shower Shoes --- Jake Chams - Guest ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jakechams ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/JakeChams ► Website: https://www.jakechams.com/ --- Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast ► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com ► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify ► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple ► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast ► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast ► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast ► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB --- Adam Elmakias - Host ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias ► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com --- Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week on the podcast let's welcome Andrew Weiss who is the tour manager and production manager. Andrew has toured with artists such as Paramore, Twenty One Pilots, and Creed. Andrew has been in the touring game for a long time and has accumulated a wealth of knowledge you can only get from living the experiences. He really gets to the nuts and bolts of what it takes to make a career out of this.   In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn: • How the touring industry has changed over the time • What Andrew considered the right attitude to have when you first start touring • How money and payments are negotiated before taking on a tour • Andrew’s thoughts of constantly learning and improving your skills on the road (00:00) Intro (03:17) Patreon (04:31) Andrew gets on the bus (06:01) How Adam and Andre met (10:01) How Andrew got started in the touring industry (13:03) The most important part to learn to be on the road (16:58) How touring has changed since Andrew started (20:27) Why are tour managing and tour producing so similar (25:21) Staying on top of your job requirements (34:41) What causes success and failure on the road? (36:32) How to ask for a raise (42:37) Why you don't discuss business with the artist (47:51) What Andrew looks into before taking a tour (51:43) Maintaining a home and tour lifestyle (56:31) Wrap up notes (57:14) Shower Shoes --- Andrew Weiss - Guest ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tourmangler ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/tourmangler --- Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast ► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com ► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify ► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple ► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast ► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast ► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast ► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB --- Adam Elmakias - Host ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias ► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com --- Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

We are trying something new this week called Tour Check-Ins. Let's welcome this week’s guest to the bus, Suge. Yes, it’s just Suge. Suge is a guitar tech who has a great sense of humor you won’t miss - he’s a chill dude. Suge is currently touring with Miley Cyrus so be on the lookout for him on stage.    In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn: • What it’s like to tour with Miley Cyrus • The questions that Suge asks before taking on a tour • A kind artist leads to a kind touring crew • What made Suge the right person to go on tour with Miley Cyrus (00:00) Intro (02:05) Patreon (02:36) Suge gets on the bus (04:04) When Adam and Suge met (05:15) How long Suge has been touring (08:06) Touring South America with Miley Cyrus (11:35) What made Suge the right person to go on this tour (15:18) What Suge did on the Miley Cryus tour (16:32) The questions that should be asked before taking a tour (20:35) What it's like to travel on an arena level tour (25:36) Lightning Story (30:39) What the schedule is like on a Miley Cyrus tour (33:48) What's different touring with Miley compared to other bands (37:44) Does a nice artist mean a nice crew? (43:30) At what point would Suge decide to leave a tour (47:45) Working with negative crew teams (52:49) Why you shouldn’t tell negative stories from the road publicly (54:55) Wrap up notes --- Suge- Guest ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sugenasty --- Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast ► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com ► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify ► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple ► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast ► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast ► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast ► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB --- Adam Elmakias - Host ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias ► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com --- Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week on the podcast please welcome Josh Terry who is the manager of Mayday Parade and one of the founders of Sad Summer Festival. This episode felt like a masterclass in mentorships thanks to Josh having a sea of knowledge for us to listen to. Make sure to make out to Sad Summer Festival this season - you won’t want to miss it.   In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn: • How Josh made the jump from managing bands to starting a festival • What are the most important skills needed to grow in the music industry • Skills mentors need to have to be able to pass on their knowledge to their mentees • How COVID help Josh improve on his own skills for Sad Summer Festival (00:00) Intro (02:03) Patreon (02:56) Josh gets on the bus (03:43) How long Josh has been in the music industry (05:02) When Josh started working in the music industry (13:01) How Josh finds the right type of people to have intern for him (20:20) What makes for a great mentor (23:44) What it means to do the "un-cool" things" (27:54) Red flags Josh looks out for before bringing someone on as an intern (34:30) Knowing when to let someone make the wrong decision (40:26) Josh's transition from being a manager to starting a festival (49:46) Entry points to work for Sad Summer Fest (53:57) Wrap up notes (54:04) Shower Shoes --- Josh Terry - Guest ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joshterrymgmt ► Workshop Managment: http://workshopmgmt.com ► Sad Summer Fest: https://www.sadsummerfest.com --- Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast ► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com ► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify ► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple ► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast ► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast ► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast ► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB --- Adam Elmakias - Host ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias ► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com --- Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

Everyone welcome to the bus Vinny Mauro - the drummer for Motionless In White. Lovely to hear his progression as a drummer throughout the past ten years. I originally met Vinny on the road 8 years ago - catch him on The Trinity of Terror tour right now. LAN party sometime soon? In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn: • How Vinny’s first tour ever was with Motionless in White • The evolution of Motionless and White’s careers from supporting acts to headlining tours • Why Vinny was almost not a member of Motionless in White • What Vinny had to overcome his low mental points (00:00) Intro (02:07) Patreon (02:58) Vinny gets on the bus (04:09) Video games (09:54) How Vinny started touring with Motionless in White (17:28) Expectations for the road (24:13) What it is like being a support act (26:25) Homelife while being away on tour (29:53) Vinny becoming a full-time member of Motionless in White (34:49) Low mental points (37:24) Putting on a smile for a show (41:14) Triple headlining tour (47:24) What Vinny did during COVID (51:36) Wrap up notes (52:17) Shower Shoes --- Vinny Mauro - Guest ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chenzomauro ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/chenzomauro ► Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/sachetti/ --- Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast ► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com ► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify ► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple ► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast ► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast ► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast ► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB --- Adam Elmakias - Host ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias ► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com --- Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

Matt Halpern is the Drummer of Periphery and one of the creators behind Get Good Drums. I love how balanced and intentional he is with his life and it was a pleasure to learn from him for an hour. Congrats on creating a human with your life, I look forward to experiencing the joys of life you are experiencing right now. See you in real life soon!   In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn: • How Matt found a balance between the touring world and family life • Several methods Matt uses to help with anxiety on and off the road • How having a child has changed Matt’s life during COVID • The tremendous growth of Matt’s career and business over the last decade (00:00) Intro (02:12) Patreon (02:53) Matt gets on the bus (03:59) Matt's first year with his kid (07:38) Touring life prepping for raising a child (10:28) Having a child during COVID (13:58) Being okay with missing events and moments (17:56) Arguing with your bandmates (24:18) Going back on the road (25:55) Get Good Drums (28:06) Matt's growth and successes over the last decade (29:44) Book recommendations (42:35) How Matt controls his anxiety on the road (47:23) How Adam and Matt met (53:58) Wrap up notes (54:33) Shower Shoes --- Matt Halpern - Guest ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mattperiphery ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/MattPeriphery ► Get Good Drums: https://www.getgooddrums.com --- Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast ► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com ► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify ► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple ► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast ► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast ► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast ► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB --- Adam Elmakias - Host ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias ► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com --- Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey