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2019/12/17
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2026/10/19
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Most education technologies are invited into schools, but generative AI crashed the party, and started rearranging the furniture. "The Homework Machine" is a mini series exploring the impact of AI on K12 education. TeachLab is a podcast that investigates the art and craft of teaching. There are 3.5 million K-12 teachers in America, and we want to explore how they can become even better at what they do. Hosted by Justin Reich, MIT Professor and director of the MIT Teaching Systems Lab.
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Introducing "The Advisory" with Andrew Frishman
2026/10/19
In 1996, Rhode Island launched The Met, a high school built around relationships, student interests, and learning beyond the classroom. Advisor Andrew Frishman guided fifteen students through four years, helping them discover their passions and connect with mentors.
Nearly twenty years after their 2006 graduation, Andrew reconnects with his students to ask: Did this education deliver on its promise?
The Advisory: Class of 2006 follows their reunions, tracing how an experiment in education shaped their lives. Alongside their stories, today’s Met students share their experiences, exploring what this approach to school offers a new generation—and what its future might hold.
We feature Episode 1 "The Met" followed by a short discussion with Andrew Frishman, the host, who still works at the Met as the Co-CEO of Big Picture Learning.
Jesse Dukes on Teaching Through Emotions
2026/02/25
One of the best parts of doing research on education is talking with students. Not only do we learn a great deal about what is happenign in schools, it's often inspiring. Betsy Burris agrees. She is a retired teacher educator and a psychotherapist who hosts Teaching Through Emotions, a podcast that focuses on relationships within the learning core.
Betsy interviewed Jesse Dukes about the Homework Machine, our seven part series on AI and K12 education, with a particular focus on how students were navigating the often mixed messages they receive about generative AI.
AI Literacy Part II "What We Talk About When We Talk About AI Literacy"
2026/02/06
Teachers are aware that AI is present in schools and learning environments, whether we like it or not. And many feel pressure, internally and externally, to learn and teach some form of "AI literacy". Justin has cautioned that it's too early for us to really understand what AI literacy is, and that just guessing at what might constitute AI literacy might do harm.
Teachers and schooleaders appreciate that warning, but many feel that we can't do nothing. It's essential for teachers to start getting some knowledge about how AI works, to start experimenting with AI powered practices, and think about implementing them into our instruction.
In our research, the most eloquent proponent that teachers should gain, and perhaps teach, some kind of AI literacy is Maureen Russo Rodriguez. Maureen is a Spanish and English teacher at St. Mark’s School in Massachussets. She is a cofounder (with Nate Green) of a network of educators called CoLab, which started in 2024 and now includes over nine hundred educators from over three hundred schools. We talk with her about her path to leading a process by which teachers design their own AI literacy professional development process, and Justin and Maureen try to pin down where they are in agreement, and disagreement.
This episode was produced by Jesse Dukes. You can learn more about Co-lab at https://www.educolab.org/.
We got support for our interview with Maureen from RAISE at MIT: Responsible AI for Social Empowerment and Education. Thanks to Eric Klopfer and Cynthia Brezeal. RAISE also sponsors a series of professional development opportunities around AI for teachers, in a similar spirit to Co-Lab called Day of AI. We had editorial help this week from Steven Jackson, Alexandra Salomon, Adam Brock, Sara Falls, and Steve Oulette.
Teach Lab is a production of the Teaching Systems lab at MIT Justin Reich Director
AI Literacy Part 1 "Where Angels Fear to Tread" with Sam Wineburg
2026/01/29
Over the last two years, teachers and schools have felt immense pressure to incorporate AI literacy into their curricula. In the fall of 2024, California became the first state to pass a law mandating AI literacy instruction in schools, and several others have since followed suit. In the summer of 2025, the Department of Education released the "AI Action Plan for Education," which stated in part: "The Action Plan encourages schools to teach AI literacy and supports the responsible integration of AI in classrooms. AI is seen as a key education tool to enhance individual student preparation for the real world and to bolster the United States as a leader in AI."
Most major AI companies have pledged significant capital to train teachers or educate students in AI literacy. Google alone has committed over 40 million dollars toward these initiatives, while OpenAI, Microsoft, and NVIDIA have all launched similar donation programs.
But do we actually know what "AI literacy" means? Sam Wineburg doesn't think so. Sam is a professor emeritus of education and history at Stanford and the co-founder of the Digital Inquiry Group. He previously led a landmark study for the Stanford History Education Group (SHEG) that exposed how standard school methods for teaching web literacy were failing K-12 students.
In part one of this two-part miniseries, Wineburg shares his observations on how educators have gotten "literacy" wrong in the past. He suggests there are more responsible ways to adapt to transformative new technologies than to hastily stand up literacy guidelines that may repeat old mistakes.
Click Here: Silencing a Kindergarten
2025/11/26
We’re pleased to share powerful reporting from our friends at the show Click Here, from Recorded Future News and PRX. They tell true stories about the people making and breaking our digital world. Over the past year, they’ve been documenting the digital – and cultural – erasure of Uyghurs in China.
As part of that series, they follow one man who set out to preserve his culture the old fashioned way: by opening kindergartens that celebrated the Uyghur language. And then, almost overnight, those doors were locked. And the school’s founder went from teacher… to enemy of the nation. Sean Powers reported the story and Dina Temple-Raston Dina, the host of the Click Here, brings it to us.
It’s not too late to take our listener survey about the Homework Machine series. We will enter you in a drawing to receive one of two $25 gift cards.
The Homework Machine Ep 7: Break the Teacher
2025/10/02
The timing of the arrival of AI has been bad for many schools and teachers. In the Fall of 2022, schools were just emerging from the extraordinary challenges brought by the pandemic. Teacher morale and turnover are at historic lows. Some school districts are on a good footing, and have the resources and stability to adapt, and even experiment with using AI to support learning, but many teachers tell us generative AI has just been one more thing they have to deal with, often without the support they would like.
At a moment when unprecedented sums are being invested in AI development — including many billions devoted to AI powered education technology — teachers wonder if our priorities are in the right place.
This episode was produced by Steven Jackson and Jesse Dukes. We had editing from Ruxandra Guidi and Alexandra Salomon. Reporting and research from Holly McDede and Andrew Meriwether. Reporting and research for the series from Chris Bagg, Andrew Parsons, Natasha Esteves, and Marnette Federis. Sound design and music supervision by Steven Jackson.
Production help from Yebu Ji. Data analysis from Manee Ngozi Nnamani and Manasa Kudumu. Administrative support from Jessica Rondon. Special thanks to Josh Sheldon and Eric Klopfer.
Original music for this series was created by Steven Jackson, Andrew Meriwether and Jesse Dukes, as part of the music project Cue Shop. Thanks to Will Grueb, Andy Wilds, and the MIT Music Department for letting us use the MIT Harpsichord.
The research and reporting you heard in this episode was supported by the Spencer Foundation, the Kapor Foundation, the Jameel World Education Lab, the Social and Ethical Responsibility of Computing initiative at MIT, and the RAISE initiative, Responsible AI for Social Empowerment and Education also at MIT. We had support from Google’s Academic Research Awards program.
Please take our Listener Survey for a chance to win a $25 gift card.
Close All Tabs: Teens Under the Influence (Of Chatbots)
2025/09/26
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/15pFzNFcJ08xBSTnoE2-YJyoxsdIW5cKDnjrpBfBAf7U/edit
The Homework Machine Ep 6 "Inviting AI to the Party"
2025/09/18
We keep saying that most ed tech is invited into schools, but generative AI crashed the party. But the truth in, some teachers have invited AI into schools. Some think it’s been great, and others see opportunities as well as challenges.
We visit four classrooms where students and teachers are using AI in ways they say are innovative, fulfilling, and effective: a student in Oregon who worked with her teacher to expand the scope of her assignments with AI; a Southern California instructor using AI to bypass busywork and focus on the creative aspects of filmmaking; a teacher in Illinois deploying AI to provide targeted feedback; and, finally, a former engineer whose students use AI coding tools to make circuitboards…play Rick Astley?
And we ask the question: What are the human teachers doing to create conditions in which AI can support learning?
This episode was produced by Jesse Dukes. We had editing from Alexandra Salomon and Ruxandra Guidi. Reporting and research from Chris Bagg, and Andrew Parsons. Additional reporting from Andrew Meriwether, Holly McDede, Natasha Esteves, and Marnette Federis. Sound design and music supervision by Steven Jackson.
Thanks to Jerry Shaw for digging up some of those Arduino Uno songs. The “Uptown Funk” was a simulation, created in our studios.
Production help from Yebu Ji. Data analysis from Manee Ngozi Nnamani and Manasa Kudumu. Administrative support from Jessica Rondon. Special thanks to Josh Sheldon and Eric Klopfer.
Original music for this series was created by Steven Jackson, Andrew Meriwether and Jesse Dukes, as part of the music project Cue Shop. Thanks to Will Grueb, Andy Wilds, and the MIT Music Department for letting us use the MIT Harpsichord.
The research and reporting you heard in this episode was supported by the Spencer Foundation, the Kapor Foundation, the Jameel World Education Lab, the Social and Ethical Responsibility of Computing initiative at MIT, and the RAISE initiative, Responsible AI for Social Empowerment and Education also at MIT.
We had support from Google’s Academic Research Awards program.
The Homework Machine Ep 5 "Winterset"
2025/09/09
Education technology companies have been falling over themselves to provide AI powered tools for schools, and to convince schools to buy their product. The array of AI powered products is dizzying, and while some can likely be put to good use, it can be hard for school leaders to gauge which are worth adopting.
One school system in Iowa, Winterset Community School District has gone all in on generative AI, piloting at least three AI powered products and encouraging faculty and students to experiment with AI. They kindly let us visit for a week, and we dive in to see what they’re excited about, and what has been challenging.
This episode was produced by Andrew Meriwether and Jesse Dukes. We had editing from Ruxandra Guidi and Alexandra Salomon. Reporting and research for the Homework Machine from Natasha Esteves, Holly McDede, Andrew Parsons, Marnette Federis, and Chris Bagg. Sound design and music supervision by Steven Jackson. Production help from Yebu Ji. Data analysis from Manee Ngozi Nnamani and Manasa Kudumu. Special thanks to Josh Sheldon and Eric Klopfer.
Administrative support from Jessica Rondon.
Thanks to Chad Sussex and everybody at Winterset who spoke to Andrew Meriwether. We’re happy to share that AI Express: Leading the Future of Learning — written by Chad Sussex and Sandy Groom-Meeks, who guided the AI journey for Winterset — is now available. This book offers school leaders and educators a practical roadmap for safely and effectively implementing AI in schools. Find the book here:
https://bit.ly/AIExpress_Amazon
Original music for this series was created by Steven Jackson, Andrew Meriwether and Jesse Dukes, as part of the music project Cue Shop. Thanks to Will Grueb, Andy Wilds, and the MIT Music Department for letting us use the MIT Harpsichord.
The research and reporting you heard in this episode was supported by the Spencer Foundation, the Kapor Foundation, the Jameel World Education Lab, the Social and Ethical Responsibility of Computing initiative at MIT, and the RAISE initiative, Responsible AI for Social Empowerment and Education also at MIT. We had support from Google’s Academic Research Awards program.
The Homework Machine Interlude: Justin Goes Back to School
2025/09/04
We’re halfway through “The Homework Machine” series, and as our production team works to finish the final episodes, we check in with Teaching Systems Lab director Justin Reich, who is returning to the classroom after a full year of sabbatical. Justin has been nervous, since some of the assignments he’s relied on in the past are not “AI-proof”. He tells us how he plans to adapt,
We want to share A Guide to AI in Schools: Perspectives for the Perplexed the guidebook authored by TSL, based on the interviews we conducted for “The Homework Machine”.
Justin is a fan of these protocols for evaluating student work:
Mindshift: Why Poetry Is Making a Comeback in Schools
2025/08/27
We’re about halfway through The Homework Machine min-series, and we have more episodes coming. We're taking a break this week, which gives us the opportunity to share an episode of one of our favorite education podcasts with you.
Mindshift from KQED features in depth interviews and reports from classroom about education and educators. We particularly enjoy this episode about a shift to teach contemporary poets, alongside the classics.
Hanif Abduraqqib. Sarah Kay. Elizabeth Acevedo. Clint Smith. Do any of these names sound familiar? How about Amanda Gorman? All of these writers are part of America’s thriving contemporary poetry scene. But you won’t find them in many text books, because high school poetry units tend to focus on dead poets, like Robert Frost, Walt Whitman and Edgar Allen Poe. North Carolina teacher Melissa Smith is working to change that. For the last seven years, she’s been diversifying the canon in her classroom, and encouraging other teachers to do the same with the hashtag #teachlivingpoets. The shift has inspired teachers across the country to get creative with how they teach students things like tone, rhythm and structure in poetry. And it’s inspired students to connect with and see reflections of themselves in the poets they study.
We have more episodes of the Homework Machine coming in a little over a week. In the meantime, please take our listener survey. (We'll enter you in a drawing to win a $25 gift card).
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The Homework Machine Ep 4 "Busted!"
2025/08/18
Students tell us that they know learning in schools is important. But sometimes, turning to ChatGPT to get their work done feels like the best option. AI might help with what they perceive as busy work, or they might be confused about what counts as a legitimate use, and what counts as cheating.
And sometimes, students tell us, they know they’re crossing a line. When that happens, it’s usually because they’ve hit a wall in the learning process, and generative AI presents a quick and easy way through the blockage. For teachers, there is no single, off the shelf solution, that will ensure students make wise decisions, but understanding why students turn to AI can be a helpful starting point.
This episode was produced by Andrew Meriwether Jesse Dukes. We had editing from Ruxandra Guidi and Alexandra Salomon. Reporting and research from Natasha Esteves, Holly McDede, Andrew Parsons, Marnette Federis, and Chris Bagg. Sound design and music supervision by Steven Jackson. Production help from Yebu Ji. Data analysis from Manee Ngozi Nnamani and Manasa Kudumu. Special thanks to Josh Sheldon and Eric Klopfer. Administrative support from Jessica Rondon.
Featured guests include Miriam Reichenberg, Kaitleen Evangelista, as well as anonymous students. Thanks to InTandem for facilitating interviews.
Thanks to Greer Murphy and Jessa Kirk, at UC Santa Cruz's Academic Integrity Office. Check out Greer Murphy's co-authored survey of academic integrity policies.
Original music for this series was created by Steven Jackson, Andrew Meriwether and Jesse Dukes, as part of the music project Cue Shop. Thanks to Will Grueb, Andy Wilds, and the MIT Music Department for letting us use the MIT Harpsichord.
The research and reporting you heard in this episode was supported by the Spencer Foundation, the Kapor Foundation, the Jameel World Education Lab, the Social and Ethical Responsibility of Computing initiative at MIT, and the RAISE initiative, Responsible AI for Social Empowerment and Education also at MIT.
We had support from Google’s Academic Research Awards program.
The Homework Machine Ep 3 "The Duplicitous Nature of Humanity"
2025/08/12
Teachers have all sorts of opinions about AI. Some are optimistic, some are pessimistic. But the most common topic that came up in our interviews was cheating.
While students have always taken shortcuts to complete their work, ChatGPT and other generative AI have a historically unique power to quickly, convincingly and comprehensively do a students’ assignment. This is proving a powerful temptation to students.
So how do teachers help their students make good decisions? Teachers know that schools have historically struggled to manage discipline fairly but they also recognize that letting students get away with cheating isn’t doing them a favor. Teachers share how they’re navigating the Scylla and Charybdis of school discipline in the AI age.
Listen to a bleeped version of this episode (Coming soon!).
Transcript coming soon!
This episode was produced by Jesse Dukes with Yebu Ji.
Editing: Alexandra Salomon and Ruxandra Guidi
Reporting and research from Natasha Esteves, Andrew Meriwether, Holly McDede, Andrew Parsons, Marnette Federis, and Chris Bagg.
Sound design and music supervision by Steven Jackson.
Production assistance from Nathan Ray.
Data analysis from Manee Ngozi Nnamani and Manasa Kudumu.
Special thanks to Josh Sheldon, Camila Lee, Liz Hutner, and Eric Klopfer.
Administrative support from Jessica Rondon.
Thanks to the teachers who spoke to us including Joe O'Hara, Alec Jensen, Schuyler Hunt, Anna Rose Pandey, Ray Salazar, and Jessica Petit-Frere. And thanks to all the teachers and students who partipated in our research.
Thanks to Greer Murphy and Jessa Kirk, at UC Santa Cruz's Office of Academic Integrity. Check out Greer Murphy's co-authored survey of academic integrity policies.
The research and reporting you heard in this episode was supported by the Spencer Foundation, the Kapor Foundation, the Jameel World Education Lab, the Social and Ethical Responsibility of Computing initiative at MIT, and the RAISE initiative, Responsible AI for Social Empowerment and Education also at MIT.
We had support from Google’s Academic Research Awards program.
The Homework Machine is a program of the MIT Teaching Systems Lab, Justin Reich, director.
The Homework Machine Ep 2 "The Jagged Frontier"
2025/08/05
ChatGPT is the most well known of the Large Language Models (LLMs) but what is an LLM? We go deep into how this remarkable new technology is built, and why their performance is inconsistent — or jagged — across similar tasks. We dive into the techniques AI engineers use to align these tools’ behavior with our values, and explain why they don’t always work, and sometimes we get hallucinations or biased output.
This episode was produced by Steven Jackson and Jesse Dukes
Editing: Alexandra Salomon and Ruxandra Guidi
Reporting and research from Holly McDede, Natasha Esteves, Andrew Parsons, Andrew Meriwether, Marnette Federis, and Chris Bagg.
Sound design and music supervision by Steven Jackson.
Production assistance from Yebu Ji and Nathan Ray.
Data analysis from Manee Ngozi Nnamani and Manasa Kudumu.
Special thanks to Josh Sheldon, Camila Lee, Liz Hutner, and Eric Klopfer.
Administrative support from Jessica Rondon.
The research and reporting you heard in this episode was supported by the Spencer Foundation, the Kapor Foundation, the Jameel World Education Lab, the Social and Ethical Responsibility of Computing initiative at MIT, and the RAISE initiative, Responsible AI for Social Empowerment and Education also at MIT.
We had support from Google’s Academic Research Awards program.
The Homework Machine is a program of the MIT Teaching Systems Lab, Justin Reich, director.
The Homework Machine Ep 1 "Buckle Up, Here it Comes!"
2025/07/29
In late November of 2022, ChatGPT was released to the public as a free research preview. Students quickly realized ChatGPT was pretty good at doing their homework for them. Schools scrambled to figure out what to do: Ban it? Embrace it? Teachers and students found themselves adapting to a new reality.
Buckle Up, Here it Comes kicks off “The Homework Machine” a mini series in the Teachlab podcast. Hosts Jesse Dukes and Justin Reich share stories of teachers and students reacting to the arrival of an exciting, alarming, and strange new technology.
Producer: Jesse Dukes
Editors: Ruxandra Guidi and Alexandra Salomon.
Reporting and research: Holly McDede, Natasha Esteves, Andrew Meriwether, and Chris Bagg.
Sound design and music supervision: Steven Jackson.
Data analysis: Manee Ngozi Nnamani and Manasa Kudumu.
Special thanks to Josh Sheldon, Camila Lee, Liz Hutner, and Eric Klopfer.
Administrative support from Jessica Rondon.
The research and reporting you heard in this episode was supported by the Spencer Foundation, the Kapor Foundation, the Jameel World Education Lab, the Social and Ethical Responsibility of Computing initiative at MIT, and the RAISE initiative, Responsible AI for Social Empowerment and Education also at MIT.
Additional support from Google’s Academic Research Awards program.
InTandem facilitated some of our student interviews.
Full episode transcript.
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Lpshdgrhfo 2025/09/08
I hope you win an award for this series
So good!!! Thank you
LizafromMS 2023/06/09
Phenomenal
I am consistently inspired by Justin’s work. I have learned so much from his resources.
don macph 2021/01/27
Future of Ed Tech
Listen to this podcast to better understand the future of education, ed tech, and why tech alone can’t solve our education challenges.
CPKZAK 2020/02/07
Informative, engaging, and important podcast
This podcast is a power packed list of people who have championed equity in education. Justin Reich keeps the conversation going while letting his gue...
Boston2031 2020/01/30
Great Start!
Only two episodes out so far, and TeachLab is sharing vital lessons. José Luis Vilson on scaffolding questions into tiers that center students, Dr. Be...
amagnacarta 2020/01/23
Exciting, necessary conversations
As someone who worked on this podcast, I'm so proud to help share some of these exciting, necessary conversations about teaching and learning. Enjoy!
LoveOverFear 2020/01/21
Great questions that zero in the biggest take-aways
Equity in the classroom is a great focus to start with, something that is not covered enough in teaching programs. Thank you for asking the question -...
joshinsomerville 2020/01/16
Super engaging!
I really enjoyed the first episode with Dr.Tatum. Really brought up a lot of important issues. Can’t wait to see what’s next!
Surfeit of justice 2020/01/16
An incredible line up of teachers, researchers, and educators
I’m a little biased, because I’m the host, but the podcast has a fabulous line up-- we have some amazing classroom teachers: Kevin Dua, Neema Avashia,...
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