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In this insightful interview, Suhag Shukla speaks with Joel Finkelstein from the Network Contagion Research Institute. They discuss the spread of anti-Indian and anti-Hindu hate online, the shift from policy debate to radicalized rhetoric, and strategies for community resilience. Discover how digital tribalism fuels misinformation and what communities can do to foster understanding and safety. Read more:  https://networkcontagion.us  https://networkcontagion.us/reports/from-policy-drift-to-purity-grift-how-a-small-network-hijacked-the-immigration-debate/ Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Digital Tribalism and Hate Speech 02:47 From Policy Drift to Purity Grift 05:55 The Role of Social Media in Amplifying Hate 08:58 Understanding the Immigration Debate and Its Impact 11:45 Cultural Contributions of the Indian Community 14:43 The Generational Shift in Community Engagement 17:41 Recurring Tropes in Anti-Indian Sentiment 20:38 The Intersection of Anti-Indian and Anti-Semitic Rhetoric 23:34 The Political Pendulum and Its Effects on Hate Speech 26:32 The Need for Community Awareness and Action 29:26 Proactive Solutions for Addressing Hate 32:36 Conclusion and Call to Action Keywords digital tribalism, hate speech, anti-Indian hate, social media influence, community resilience, misinformation, immigration debate, online extremism, social media algorithms, community building Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of That’s So Hindu, Mat McDermott speaks with Lydia Picoli about the profound connection between yoga, nature, and spirituality. Discover how outdoor practices, eco-psychology, and personal spiritual journeys can transform your understanding of self and the environment. Learn more: https://resoul.earth Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Yoga and Nature Connection 02:01 Personal Journey and Spiritual Awakening 06:21 Bringing Nature into Daily Life 09:57 The Healing Power of Nature 12:43 Bridging the Gap: From Fitness to Spirituality 16:59 Academic Background and Spiritual Psychology 21:11 Foundational Moments in Spiritual Journey 23:27 The Search for Truth and Personal Responsibility 27:33 Reconnecting with Nature and Spiritual Practices 34:42 The Power of Intuition and Personal Experience 39:24 Cultural Appropriation and the Essence of Yoga 43:39 Inner Work vs. Outer Activism: Finding Balance Keywords Yoga, Nature, Spirituality, Eco-psychology, Meditation, Personal Growth, Earth Day,  Key Topics  Yoga and nature connection Outdoor yoga practices and benefits Spiritual psychology and personal transformation Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of That’s So Hindu, Mat McDermott speaks with nutritionist Neha Shah (Diaspora Nutrition). They discuss the impact of Western diets on Indian immigrants, traditional Indian dietary wisdom, and practical strategies for maintaining health through culturally rooted nutrition practices. Learn more:  https://www.instagram.com/diasporanutrition/  https://diasporanutrition.com/  Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Diaspora Nutrition 03:09 Understanding Cardio Metabolic Disease 06:11 Cultural Wisdom vs. Western Diets 09:01 The Role of Traditional Foods 11:54 Calorie Counting and Food Relationships 14:41 Modernizing Indian Meals 17:56 The Importance of Sourcing Ingredients 20:58 Healthy Swaps for Immigrants 23:57 Seasonality and Eating Patterns 26:40 Ayurveda and Traditional Wisdom 29:42 Integrating Traditional Grains 32:52 Final Thoughts and Resources keywords diaspora nutrition, Indian immigrants, traditional Indian diet, gut health, metabolic health, Ayurveda, food sourcing, seasonality, holistic health, cultural wisdom   key topics Impact of Western diets on Indian immigrants Traditional Indian dietary wisdom and practices Gut health and metabolic disease in diaspora populations Food sourcing, seasonality, and preparation methods Ayurveda and holistic health principles Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of That’s So Hindu, Mat McDermott talks with yoga teacher Patrick Franco discusses the importance of asana within the broader context of yoga philosophy. He explores how movement, breath, and mindfulness can be integrated to achieve the true goals of yoga, addressing misconceptions and highlighting the significance of lineage and authentic practice. Read Patrick’s article in Yoga Journal: https://www.yogajournal.com/teach/asana-yoga/ Practice with Patrick: https://yogarenew.com Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Yoga and Asana 06:06 The Importance of Asana in Yoga 10:31 Post-COVID Yoga Landscape 13:58 Asana as a Gateway to Community 29:56 Gender Dynamics in Yoga Practice Keywords Yoga, Asana, Yoga Philosophy, Movement, Breath, Lineage, Yoga Practice, Spirituality, Yoga Education Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of That’s So Hindu, Dr. Vijay Satnarine from Hindu American Foundation dives into the expansive world of yoga, revealing that there are actually 16 (possibly more) paths and practices that go far beyond the commonly known four. This discussion challenges simplified views of yoga and emphasizes its diverse and inclusive nature, grounded in spiritual traditions and practical applications. The 16 types of yoga  1. The Disciplines of the Mind & Intellect These techniques focus on refining the "instrument" of perception. Abhyāsa-yoga (Yoga of Practice): The technique of repeatedly bringing the wandering mind back to a single point of focus. Buddhi-yoga (Yoga of Discernment): Using the higher intellect to filter out sensory "noise" and make choices based on the fundamental reality of a situation. Sāṅkhya-yoga (Yoga of Analysis): The intellectual discipline of "counting" or "categorizing" the difference between the eternal observer and the transient world. Jñāna-Vijñāna-yoga (Yoga of Knowledge & Realization): The progression from theoretical understanding to direct, verifiable experience of reality. 2. The Disciplines of Action & Engagement These techniques focus on how we interface with the world without creating further cycles of suffering. Karma-yoga (Yoga of Action): Performing one's duty without attachment to personal gain. Karma-phala-tyāga (Renunciation of Results): The psychological technique of surrendering the "fruit" of action to manage anxiety and ego. Sannyāsa-yoga (Yoga of Renunciation): Not the abandonment of action, but the renunciation of the sense of doership (the ego’s claim on the action). Yajña-yoga (Yoga of Sacrifice): Viewing every action—from eating to breathing to working—as an offering to the greater whole, rather than an act of personal consumption. 3. The Disciplines of Emotional & Biological Baseline These provide the "steady ground" required for all other yogas. Sthitaprajña-yoga (Yoga of Steady Wisdom): The practice of remaining unmoved by the "dualities" (pleasure/pain, win/loss) to maintain a clear view of reality. Dhyāna-yoga / Ātma-saṃyama-yoga (Yoga of Meditation/Self-Restraint): The biological discipline of regulating sleep, food, and breath to keep the "instrument" of the body tuned. Samatva-yoga (Yoga of Equanimity): The specific technique of viewing a lump of earth, a stone, and gold with the same steady eye—recognizing the same underlying Sat in all. 4. The Disciplines of Connection & Vision These expand the individual's perspective from the local self to the universal. Bhakti-yoga (Yoga of Devotion): Reorienting the emotional faculty toward the Divine, transforming personal desire into universal love. Vibhūti-yoga (Yoga of Divine Manifestation): The technique of practicing "constant awareness" by seeing the "best of" every category (the sun among lights, the lion among beasts) as a portal to the Divine reality. Viśvarūpa-darśana-yoga (Yoga of the Universal Vision): The radical expansion of consciousness to see the interconnectedness of all time, space, and being. 5. The Disciplines of the "Field" (Contextual Reality) These focus on understanding the environment in which we act. Kṣetra-Kṣetrajña-yoga (Yoga of the Field & Knower): Distinguishing between the "Field" (the body, the mind, the world) and the "Knower" (consciousness). Guṇatraya-vibhāga-yoga (Yoga of the Three Modes): Analyzing the three qualities of nature—Sattva (clarity), Rajas (activity), and Tamas (inertia)—to understand what is driving our current behavior. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of That’s So Hindu, Dr Indu Viswanathan joins us again for another edition of her Hindu at Heart series of interviews. In this one she explores the inspiring journey of Dr. Anisha Pareddy, a first-generation Hindu American physician, as she shares her childhood memories, spiritual awakening, and how her faith influences her medical career and personal life. Discover insights on Hindu identity in America, the role of gurus, and the integration of spirituality and medicine. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Anisha's Journey 02:50 Growing Up Hindu in Carmel, Indiana 05:42 Cultural Identity and School Experiences 08:52 The Shift to Personal Hinduism 12:02 Academic Exploration of Religion 15:00 Finding a Guru and Spiritual Growth 17:43 Navigating Relationships and Spirituality 26:47 Hinduism: Spirituality and Practice 29:00 Navigating Relationships and Family Dynamics 36:02 The Journey to Becoming a Physician 51:31 Embracing Hindu Identity in Medicine Keywords Hindu American, spirituality, medicine, guru, cultural identity, Hinduism in America, cardiology, personal growth, faith, dharma Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this conversation, Mat McDermott and Devala Rees delve into the complexities of Hinduism, particularly focusing on the Vedas and their role within various Hindu traditions. They explore the misconceptions surrounding the Vedas, the differences between Vedic and non-Vedic traditions, and the significance of Agamas in Hindu practices. The discussion also touches on the legal definitions of Hinduism as interpreted by the Indian Supreme Court, emphasizing the diversity and fluidity of Hindu identity. Takeaways The Vedas are ancient compilations of spiritual teachings and philosophies.Not all Hindus view the Vedas as authoritative; many traditions exist outside of Vedic influence.The Vedas are not a singular source of moral commandments like the Bible in Christianity.Hinduism encompasses over 300 different traditions, each with its own sources of knowledge.Agamas, or tantras, are significant texts that many Hindu traditions follow instead of the Vedas.The Indian Supreme Court's definition of Hinduism is not universally accepted among Hindus.Many Hindus practice spirituality without adhering to the Vedas.The concept of temples in Hinduism originates from Agamic traditions, not Vedic ones.Hindu identity is complex and cannot be reduced to a single definition based on Vedic adherence.The Vedas serve as a historical touchstone but do not dictate the practices of all Hindus. Chapters 00:00 Understanding the Vedas: An Introduction 09:41 The Role of the Vedas in Hinduism 19:54 Diverse Perspectives: Vedic vs. Non-Vedic Traditions 29:51 Agamas and Their Significance in Hindu Practices 39:44 Legal Definitions and the Supreme Court's Perspective Keywords Hinduism, Vedas, Agamas, Hindu traditions, spirituality, non-Vedic, religious practices, Indian culture, philosophy Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of That’s So Hindu, Mat McDermott speaks with filmmaker Trivikram Gajulapalli about his film 'Chiquita', which explores themes of spirituality and self-transformation through the story of a Texan biker. He shares insights into the cultural influences that shaped the film, the reception it has received from audiences, and the challenges of conveying spiritual themes in cinema. Trivikram also reflects on his experiences as a filmmaker and offers advice for others looking to create meaningful stories. Read more: https://veenaavedika.com/trivikram-gajulapalli/  Takeaways Trivikram aims to tell cross-cultural stories through film.'Chiquita' focuses on a Texan biker's journey of self-discovery.The film incorporates elements of Western Hinduism.Trivikram conducted research on the experiences of Western Hindus.The film's reception has been positive among its target audience.Character development was crucial in portraying the film's themes.Trivikram emphasizes the importance of subtlety in storytelling.Art should serve a higher purpose beyond entertainment.Future projects will continue to explore Indian connections in American stories.Filmmakers should focus on authenticity and audience engagement. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Trivikram and His Work 02:05 Overview of 'Chiquita' and Its Themes 05:34 Exploring Western Hinduism and Cultural Influences 09:34 Spirituality vs. Religion in 'Chiquita' 11:39 Reception and Audience Response to the Film 14:01 Character Development and Casting Choices 16:35 Personal Experiences and Cultural Reflections 17:36 Hidden Elements and Symbolism in the Film 21:55 Veena Vedika and Future Projects 24:37 Advice for Filmmakers on Spiritual Themes 26:42 Closing Thoughts and Future Endeavors Keywords Trivikram Gajulapalli , Chiquita, Western Hinduism, spirituality, film, cultural stories, filmmaking advice Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of That’s So Hindu, Mat McDermott speaks with author Dheepa Maturi about her eco-thriller '108', exploring themes of ecology, climate change, and the intersection of culture and identity. They discuss the balance between fiction and reality in addressing environmental issues, the significance of Hindu themes in the narrative, and the concept of ecological grief. Dheepa emphasizes the importance of poetry in connecting with nature and the community, as well as the need for empathy in conversations across divides. The discussion also touches on the role of technology in environmental solutions and the signs of hope amidst despair. Takeaways Deepa aims to present a hopeful narrative amidst climate despair.Ecological grief is a recognized phenomenon affecting many.Poetry serves as a means to connect with our emotions.Getting outside and connecting with nature is vital.Empathy is key in bridging divides in society.Small actions can lead to significant change.Technology can offer solutions but must be balanced with caution.The number 108 holds spiritual significance in Eastern traditions. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene 01:59 Overview of '108' and Its Themes 05:47 The Balance of Fiction and Reality in Climate Narratives 07:56 Hindu Themes and Ecological Perspectives 12:00 Understanding Ecological Grief 14:53 The Role of Poetry in Environmental Awareness 16:37 Connecting with Nature and Community 18:38 Empathy and Bridging Divides 19:31 Finding Hope Amidst Despair 23:28 Technology: A Double-Edged Sword 26:33 Future Projects and Closing Thoughts Keywords ecology, environment, climate change, ecological grief, Hindu themes, poetry, community, technology, hope, Dheepa Maturi Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of That’s So Hindu, Mat McDermott speaks with Dr Vijay Satnarine and Dr Kavita Pallod Sekhsaria about the often downplayed and misunderstood concept of kama in Hinduism, emphasizing the importance of desire and pleasure in achieving a balanced life. The discussion critiques the puritanical mindset that has historically downplayed these aspects, particularly in the context of modern relationships and provides insights into the psychological implications of desire, the historical context of sexuality in Hinduism, and practical steps for embracing a holistic view of intimacy and pleasure. Takeaways Kama is a crucial aspect of a balanced life.Desire should not be rejected in the pursuit of moksha.The Victorian mindset has negatively influenced views on sexuality.Intimacy and pleasure are essential for fulfilling relationships.Hindu teachings advocate for a holistic understanding of desire.Communication about sex is vital in modern relationships.Historical texts show a more accepting view of sexuality.Pleasure should be pursued ethically and consensually.Understanding one's desires can lead to personal growth.The conversation around sexuality needs to be normalized. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Kama Before Moksha 02:46 Reclaiming Desire: The Balance of Life Goals 05:58 Understanding Kama: Beyond the Sutras 08:40 The Puritanical Mindset: Historical Context 11:47 The Spectrum of Sexuality in Hinduism 14:58 The Role of Pleasure in Relationships 17:46 Navigating Modern Relationships and Intimacy 20:50 Experimentation and Mastery in Relationships 23:34 The Impact of Victorian Ideals on Hindu Thought 26:38 Addressing Swami Scandals and Human Fallibility 29:38 Practical Steps for Embracing Desire 32:45 Conclusion: Embracing a Holistic View of Desire Keywords Hinduism, Kama, Moksha, relationships, desire, intimacy, Victorian mindset, sexuality, spirituality, balance Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of Thats So Hindu, Mat McDermott speaks with Fred Stella (HAF) and John Morehead (Foundation for Religious Diplomacy). The conversation explores the complex dynamics of Christian-Hindu relations, focusing on proselytization efforts in India and the reactions from the Hindu community. They discuss the ethical boundaries of evangelism, the importance of understanding different religious perspectives, and the need for interfaith dialogue that respects both beliefs. They emphasize the significance of educating young Hindus about their own faith to better engage in discussions with Christians and navigate the challenges posed by missionary activities. Takeaways Christian evangelism often overlooks the perspectives of those being evangelized.Hindus feel their spiritual identity is often treated as a problem needing a solution.Interfaith dialogue can foster understanding and respect between different faiths.Ethical evangelism should avoid coercion and respect individual beliefs.Education is crucial for Hindus to articulate their beliefs in interfaith discussions.Not all Christians share the same approach to evangelism; there are diverse perspectives.The Great Commission is a fundamental aspect of evangelical Christianity.Interfaith discussions should focus on storytelling rather than debate.Creating alliances with other faiths can help address anti-Hindu sentiment.Respectful dialogue can lead to greater understanding and cooperation among religions. Chapters 00:00 Setting the Stage for Christian-Hindu Relations 05:59 Understanding Hindu Perspectives on Proselytization 16:49 Navigating Differences in Evangelism and Understanding 18:21 The Nature of Evangelization 23:44 Understanding the Great Commission 24:17 Exploring New Perspectives on Other Religions 27:14 Sharing Spiritual Beliefs Ethically 33:28 Experiences of Unethical Evangelism 39:03 Ethics of Evangelism in Interfaith Contexts 45:16 Finding Common Ground in Diverse Beliefs Keywords Christianity, Hinduism, proselytization, interfaith dialogue, evangelism, ethical boundaries, cultural relations, religious identity, Great Commission, spiritual beliefs Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of That’s So Hindu, Mat McDermott interviews Ravi Rajan, producer of the documentary “Castegate” and Sundar Iyer, one of the engineers at the center of Cisco caste discrimination case. The conversation delves into the allegations of caste discrimination, the subsequent documentary that was produced to document the events, and the broader implications of caste discrimination in the US. The speakers discuss the egregious claims made by the California Civil Rights Department, the political mobilization against Hindu Americans, and the legislative context surrounding SB 403. They emphasize the need for community awareness and action against discrimination, while also highlighting the importance of ethical leadership in politics. Watch: https://castegatethefilm.org/  Takeaways The Cisco case involves allegations of caste discrimination and harassment.The documentary aims to document the truth behind the Cisco case.There are significant misrepresentations in the claims made by the California Civil Rights Department.Political mobilization against Hindu Americans is a growing concern.Caste discrimination is being used as a tool to target Hindu Americans.The Civil Rights Department's actions raise ethical questions about government agencies.SB 403 was introduced to address caste discrimination but has controversial implications.Community reception of the documentary has been positive, with awards received.Calls for donations are crucial to support the ongoing efforts related to the film.The fight against discrimination is a collective responsibility for all Americans. Chapters 00:00 Overview of the Cisco Case 02:56 The Film's Development and Purpose 05:57 Behind the Scenes: Documenting the Truth 08:39 Egregious Claims and Misrepresentation 11:42 Speculation on Broader Agendas 14:45 Caste and Identity: A Complex Discussion 17:31 Statistical Misuse and Its Implications 20:52 Community Reception and Future Plans 23:34 Reflections on Pushback and Advocacy 28:31 Ethical Responsibilities of Leaders 31:25 Legal Challenges and Civil Rights 34:44 Caste Discrimination and Legal Implications 37:47 Racial Dynamics and Social Commentary 39:57 Cultural Shifts and Societal Reactions 43:53 Examining Harassment Claims 46:31 The Allegations of Isolation 47:34 The Possibility of a Setup 49:30 Coincidences and Causation 50:56 Understanding SB 403 53:45 The Implications of Caste Legislation 56:35 Political Ethics and Accountability 58:40 The Broader Campaign Against Hindu Americans 01:03:54 Calls to Action and Community Support Keywords Cisco case, caste discrimination, documentary, civil rights, SB 403, Hindu American community, political mobilization, legal implications, anti-Hindu sentiment Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of That’s So Hindu, Mat McDermott, Pawan Deshpande, and Devala Rees discuss the intersection of AI and Hinduism, exploring how AI can be integrated into devotional practices, the biases present in AI systems, and the implications of misinformation in educational contexts. They delve into the philosophical questions surrounding consciousness and AI, and the potential future of AI in relation to Hindu traditions. The discussion emphasizes the importance of accurate representation and the opportunities AI presents for spreading knowledge about Hinduism. Takeaways AI images can be used in Hindu practices but with caution.Hinduism encompasses over 300 distinct traditions.Misinformation in educational materials about Hinduism is prevalent.Caste is often misrepresented in AI outputs.AI can mimic human-like features but lacks true consciousness.The optimization function in AI influences its responses.AI performs better when users interact positively with it.Hindus are significant users of AI technologies like ChatGPT.AI presents opportunities for accurate representation of Hinduism.The future of AI in Hinduism raises important philosophical questions. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Guests and Their Backgrounds 02:54 AI in Hindu Devotional Practices 05:49 Understanding AI: Definitions and Implications 11:59 Bias and Misinformation in AI 17:52 Educational Challenges and Misrepresentation of Hinduism 23:44 The Role of AI in Cultural Representation 29:45 Consciousness and AI: A Philosophical Exploration 35:57 The Future of AI and Hinduism 41:45 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Keywords AI, Hinduism, Devotional Practices, Misinformation, Bias, Education, Cultural Representation, Consciousness, Philosophy, Technology Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Mat McDermott interviews Richa Karmarkar, a Hinduism reporter at Religion News Service, discussing the complexities of reporting on Hinduism in America. They explore the perceptions of Hinduism in media, political biases, and the challenges faced by journalists in accurately representing the Hindu community. Richa shares her background, the importance of nuanced reporting, and the need for greater understanding of Hindu identity and immigration issues. The conversation also touches on key stories from the past year and looks ahead to future topics in Hinduism. Follow: Religion News Service | Richa Karmarkar Takeaways Richa Karmarkar's journey from a Midwestern upbringing to becoming a Hinduism reporter.The complexity of Hinduism makes it challenging to report accurately.Political bias in media often affects the portrayal of Hinduism.Hindu identity is often linked to Indian politics in media narratives.There is a perception of left-wing bias in journalism.Many journalists lack a deep understanding of Hinduism.Community engagement is crucial for accurate representation.Immigration issues are a significant concern for the Hindu community.Support for political figures can vary widely within the Hindu community.The future of Hinduism in America will involve addressing spirituality and community needs. Keywords Hinduism, media representation, political bias, immigration, Hindu identity, journalism, Richa Karmarkar, Religion News Service, community engagement, cultural understanding Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Context of Current Events 02:39 Richa's Background and Journey in Journalism 04:35 Perceptions of Hinduism in Media Reporting 07:55 Political Bias and Representation of Hindus 10:30 Navigating Hindu Identity and Media Criticism 12:31 Left-Wing Bias in Journalism 17:32 Understanding Hinduism in Religion Reporting 20:23 Balancing Nuance and Reader Understanding 23:05 Key Stories in Hindu Community Reporting 24:38 The Evolving Narrative of Immigration and Identity 29:53 Community Perspectives on Immigration and Solidarity 33:53 The Future of Hinduism in America 38:51 Engaging with Hinduism Beyond the Mainstream Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this conversation, moderated by Mat McDermott, HAF’s Samir Kalra, Dr Kavita Pallod Sekhsaria, Sheetal Shah, and Suhag Shukla discuss the complexities of parenting within the Hindu American context. They share personal experiences on how to celebrate both Hindu and mainstream American holidays, strategies for navigating interfaith celebrations, addressing the challenges of educating children about different religions, and the impact of social media on parenting. The discussion emphasizes the importance of being good role models and fostering a strong cultural identity in children. Takeaways Celebrating both Hindu and American holidays can enrich children's cultural experiences.Incorporating Hindu traditions into mainstream celebrations helps children feel connected.It's essential to engage in open conversations about different religions with children.Parents should model good behavior and values to instill a strong cultural identity.Educational experiences can vary widely; parents must advocate for accurate representation of Hinduism.Social media presents challenges, but balance and monitoring can help mitigate risks.Food can be a powerful motivator in engaging children with cultural practices.Community involvement and shared experiences enhance children's understanding of their heritage.Interfaith discussions should be approached with sensitivity and openness.Parenting requires constant adaptation to new cultural and technological landscapes. Keywords Hindu parenting, cultural celebrations, interfaith, education, social media, Hindu representation, parenting tips, holiday traditions, family values, community engagement Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.