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168 episodes
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Ian Storch & Tianyu SheExplicit
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Date created
2020/01/16
Latest episode
2026/02/03
Average duration
45 min.
Release period
19 days
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Interviews with Osteopathic physicians on how their trials and tribulations got them to where they are! Geared towards osteopathic students but also for all healthcare students, pre-medical students, practicing physicians as well as anyone else interested in medicine. Team: Pre-Medical and Medical Students. Mentor: Dr. Ian Storch, DO
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Episode 167: Myths and Misconceptions 4: DO students can't participate in the Visiting Student Learning Opportunities (VSLO)? Incorrect! Interview with the AAMC!
2026/02/03
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For those of you that don't know, in the modern system of medical school clinical rotations, students typically rotate at their "home institutions" or medical school affiliates. One of the criticisms of post-graduate Osteopathic Medical education is that at some schools, students need to do a significant number of away rotations especially if they are interested in competitive surgical specialties. The VSLO is an organization through the AAMC which allows American MD and American DO students to coordinate these rotations with outside hospitals. This episode is mainly in response to posts on Redit and Youtube commenting on the process for Osteopathic Medical Students. To shed some light on the topic, In this episode, we will interview Robin Carle, the director of VSLO at the AAMC to shed some light on the VSLO process and the validity of the comments regarding biases within the system against DO's.
Episode 166: Dr. Alexander King, D.O. - ONMM, Youtube and Promoting Osteopathy in the Modern World
2026/01/06
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Alexander King is an ONMM specialist, who focuses on Manual therapy not just in an outpatient setting, but an inpateint setting as well! He was in private practice, but transitioned to a teaching role at Rowan-Virta! He was a rockstar at OMED! Who else would make hats stating, "OMM SAVES LIVES!" Amazing!
Episode 165: Dr. Kim Wolf, D.O. - Osteopathy in the Cranial Field and it's Role in the Pediatric Population
2025/12/02
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On today's episode, we interivew Kimberly Wolf, DO. a professor at Touro California. Dr. Wolf will discuss with us the modality of Cranial Osteopathic Manipulation and how she became interested in the field. She will share her passion for helping children with this miraculous therapy and how Osteopathic Physicians can become proficient in the technique.
Episode 164: Dr. Matthew Cannon, D.O.- VCOM Dean- is Global mindset and community focus oxymoron or a paradigm to live by?!
2025/11/04
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In this episode, we interviewed Dr. Matthew Cannon, the Campus Dean for the Carolinas campus and Senior Dean for all four campuses of the Edward Via College of Osteopathic Medicine. Dr. Cannon emphasized the importance of character development, compassion, and community involvement in medical education. He highlighted the unique approach of the Edward Via College of Osteopathic Medicine, focusing on its global mindset, community focus, and commitment to serving rural and medically underserved populations. Dr. Cannon emphasized the holistic approach to medicine and osteopathy, which considers the mind, body, and spirit when treating patients.
During the discussion, we explored the importance of preparing medical students for board exams and clinical practice. Dr. Cannon underscored the role of complex and USMLE step exams in evaluating students' knowledge and skills. Additionally, we discussed the significance of a holistic approach to learning, including considering the student's work environment, stress levels, diet, and financial status, all of which can impact their educational journey and clinical practice.
Episode 163: Crossover: Dr. Kristen Conrad-Schnetz, D.O.- General Surgeon and Program Director, OMM and surgery? Behind the Knife
2025/10/07
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Osteopathic education in surgery has undergone significant changes, especially with the transition to a single ACGME accreditation system in 2020. Despite initial concerns about equitable access and representation, studies have highlighted increasing competitiveness of osteopathic medical students in surgical residency matches and comparable outcomes between allopathic and osteopathic surgeons, affirming the quality of osteopathic training. In this episode, we talk with Dr. Kristen Conrad-Schnetz, recent president of the American College of Osteopathic Surgeons (ACOS) and General Surgery program director at Cleveland Clinic South Pointe Hospital, about osteopathy in general surgery. We delve into the role of osteopathic principles in surgical training and practice and the impact of transitioning to a single accreditation system. Dr. Conrad-Schnetz shares insights on overcoming misconceptions about DO surgeons and her vision for the future of osteopathic recognition in surgery.
Join hosts Pooja Varman MD, Judith French PhD, and Jeremy Lipman MD, MHPE for this exciting conversation with Kristen Conrad-Schnetz, DO.
Learning Objectives
By the end of this episode, listeners will be able to
1. List the four tenets of osteopathic medicine
2. Identify how osteopathic principles and practices can be incorporated into surgical practice
3. Explain the significance of osteopathic recognition in residency programs
4. Discuss strategies for promoting equity for DO surgery residents
References
1. Williamson TK, Martinez VH, Ojo DE, et al. An analysis of osteopathic medical students applying to surgical residencies following transition to a single graduate medical education accreditation system. Journal of Osteopathic Medicine. 2024;124(2):51-59. doi:10.1515/jom-2023-0118 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37921195/
2. Russell TA, Yoshida R, Men M, et al. Comparison of Outcomes for Patients Treated by Allopathic vs Osteopathic Surgeons. JAMA Surgery. Published online October 16, 2024. doi:10.1001/jamasurg.2024.4580 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39412774/
3. Etheart I, Krise SM, Burns JB, Conrad-Schnetz K. The Effect of Single Accreditation on Medical Student Match Rates in Surgical Specialties. Cureus. 2021;13(4):e14301. doi:10.7759/cureus.14301 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33968513/
Please visit https://behindtheknife.org to access other high-yield surgical education podcasts, videos and more.
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If it is helpful, here is a brief intro to Behind the Knife. Behind the Knife is the world’s #1 surgical education platform. From high-yield educational topics to interviews with leaders in the field, Behind the Knife delivers the information you need to know. Behind the Knife's mission is to revolutionize surgical education by creating timely, relevant, and engaging content delivered through an easily accessible multimodal educational platform that meets the needs of busy surgeons and modern trainees.
Episode 162: Dr. Dan Waters, D.O., Retired Cardiothoracic Surgeon- You can't say this Osteopath doesn't have Heart!
2025/09/23
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In today’s episode we interview Dr. Dan Waters, a retired cardiothoracic surgeon. Dr. Waters is the author of multiple books and a column which appears semi-monthly In the DO online Journal, which is a must read. This proud Osteopathic Trailblazer will reflect on his career as a cardiothoracic surgeon. He will take us through his medical school education at Rowan followed by his Specialty training at the elite institution, Cleveland clinic. This beacon of Osteopathy will share with us what being an osteopathic physician has meant to him over the span of his career and give advice to aspiring Osteopathic surgeons interested in this clinical path.
Epidose 161: Dr. Thomas Cavaliere, D.O.: Rowan-Virtua Health-COM Dean- Best in Class Primary Care!
2025/09/09
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In this episode, we will interview Dr. Thomas Cavaliere, the current Dean of the Rowan Virtua School of Osteopathic Medicine. Dr. Cavaliere graduated from the Des Moines University College of Osteopathic Medicine, following which he completed an internal medicine residency at Thomas Jefferson University Hospital. Under his leadership, the Rowan Virtua School of Osteopathic Medicine has been named one of the best medical schools in the country for primary care and geriatric medical education. Dr. Cavalierey has also recently been selected to serve as the inaugural Senior Vice Provost of the Virtua Health College of Medicine and Life Sciences, as well as the Chief Academic Officer for the Virtua Health System.
It is an honor to interview such an accomplished physician, and we believe his perspectives are valuable for everyone from pre-medical students to attending physicians. Dr. Cavaliere will discuss the advantages of pursuing a career in academic medicine, emphasizing the opportunity to combine clinical practice with teaching and research, and the fulfillment of caring for patients while training the next generation of physicians. We know you will love this episode.
Episode 160: Dr. Katie Davenport, D.O.: Family Practice with an "OB" Twist!
2025/08/26
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If you enter a residency in family practice is it limiting? We've always heard things like "jack of all trade but master of none?" Not true! Listen to this D.O. who does family practice, but did extra training in Obstetrics so that she can take care of mothers in labor and other more specialized areas of medicine!
Episode 159: Chrissa Karaginnis- MS-IV; Primary Care ROI? Health Service Scholar!
2025/08/12
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Today’s guest speaker is Chrissa Karagiannis, a fourth year medical student at Touro California College of Osteopathic Medicine, who is currently in the thick of the residency application and interview process for Family Medicine. In today’s episode, Chrissa will share with us her experience participating in the National Health Service Corps Scholarship Program, as an excellent way for students interested in primary care specialties to alleviate the financial burdens of becoming a physician. Chrissa will share her journey to osteopathic medical school, and her passion for working with underserved populations, specifically in overdose prevention. Chrissa will share her involvement with SOMA’s Overdose Prevention Committee, and her experience with the AACOM Health Policy Internship, advocating for vulnerable populations and focusing on education for overdose training. Ultimately, I was inspired by Chrissa’s passion for advocacy and service with the opioid crisis, and I know you will enjoy this episode as much as we did.
Episode 158: Dr. Min Je Woo, D.O. Family Practice- Is my D.O. degree accepted in Canada? Yes! Singing O' Canada!
2025/07/29
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D.O.'s are complete physicians in the US, but what happens if you go to another country? This DO went to school in America, did residency and now is practicing in Canada? How do you do that? Can you prescribe medications? Can you do OMM? How do patients think of Osteopathic Medicine up north? Listen and find out!
Episode 157: Crossover: White Coat Investor with Ian Storch: D.O. vs US-MD : Which Degree is better?
2025/07/15
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Dr. Storch again? YUP! He is invited by Jim Dhale, MD to disucuss the benefits of osteopathic medicine and have a showdown with him on which degree is better!
Episode 156: Jonah Zeitlin D.O. and Samantha Gerstman, M.D.: Osteopathic vs Caribbean Showdown!? (or DO and MD in love)
2025/07/01
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What should someone know when applying to a Caribbean MD medical school? We have been asked this question more than once, but this is a D.O. podcast!
But we have the perfect answer. . . Today we speak to a couple, Jonah Zeitlin DO and Samantha Gerstman, MD. who went to undergraduate together and fell in love!
One decided to to the D.O. route and the other the Caribbean M.D. We will speak to them about their perceived differences! What were to pros and cons?
Ultimately they successfully couples matched into ENT and Pediatrics! We'll hear about that process as well!
What a discussion! Don't miss!
Episode 155: Dr. Sean McMillan, D.O.- Orthopedic Surgeon and President of the AOAO, Do you know what it takes to do Ortho? Soon you will!
2025/06/17
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Today we will interview Sean McMilan, the president of the AOAO, which stands for the American Osteopathic Academy of Orthopedics. He will discuss why he feels orthopedics is a great specialty and what being a DO brings to the profession. He will talk about his own difficult journey and how he pays it forward, helping Osteopathic Physicians accomplish their dream! What a great episode!
Episode 154: Dr. Denise Wunderler, D.O.- Orthopedic Surgery Dropout? No way! Family Practice, Sports Med and Harley Davidson! Plus, the tragedy of SUDC.
2025/06/03
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Dr Wunderler is a wonderful human being!
She started her career as an Orthopedic Surgery resident but left when she found that the specialty was not for her.
She loved sports and shifted gears going into Family Practice with an fellowship in sports medicine.
She now works for Harley Davidson. . . A dream job!
But there is a dark side to the story. Learn about SUDC and a time when two physicians came home from dinner to find their young daughter was not breathing!
A difficult story and what the good doctor has done to remember her daughter, Vienna!
Episode 153: Dr. Olutayo Sogunro, D.O. From Trauma Surgery to Breast Surgery! Saving Lives and changing outcomes!
2025/05/20
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A member of the Board of Governors for the American College of Osteopathic Surgeons, Dr. Sogunro feels that she was "born to be a D.O."
She will share with us her journey from growing up in Africa, to moving to Connecticut at 13 with a dream of becoming a physican.
When she became saddened as a trauma surgeon taking care of victims of gang violence, she pivoted to breast surgery where she felt she could make a deeper impact.
What an impressive woman and Osteopath! Don't miss this one!
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student doctor noelk 2022/02/07
A great listen!
I really loved hearing the stories of some of the physicians who were interviewed! They each had a unique path that brought the to where they are now....
Lc371106 2022/02/04
Excited for osteopathy!
I enjoy this series a lot! Great insight from osteopathic physicians. Very excited to continue my journey as a D.O. student. Looking forward to more c...
Aubreyjdjfjrjrnfj 2021/08/08
Must-listen for all osteopathic medical students
This podcast has been extremely helpful with solidifying my specialty of choice and gaining insight into what is to come as an osteopathic medical stu...
AAcradus 2020/11/25
Amazing Content!
As a pre-med student this podcast has really helped show me all the opportunities and kinds of specialities there are. Keep making the great content!
hhhkitddw 2021/01/07
Great podcast, but...
I’ve listened to a few episodes now and I have thoroughly enjoyed each one. I was excited to see an episode with a physician, Dr. Kozlowski, who atten...
jeanessa.m 2020/11/24
So beneficial to Pre-Med students!
This podcast offers such a great opportunity to hear about so many different experiences. No matter what stage each practicing physician is at, they a...
Jabrill peppers 2020/11/19
Relevant to my life
As a non traditional student looking to get into medicine this podcast has been a god send. The message of osteopathic medicine really speaks to me an...
csthjgrhhf 2020/11/15
Great Listen!
This podcast is really interesting especially as a current medical student! I honestly wish that I had something like this to listen to when I was app...
Student Doc AK 2020/11/11
Perfect for Premeds and D.O. Med students!
I wish I had something like this as a premedical student. Love what this group is doing!
hopefuldox 2020/11/05
Great listen
Amazing podcast for pre medical students and do students. I like the storch episode best!
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