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Is That Even Legal?

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115 episodes
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Date created
2020/01/23
Latest episode
2026/09/25
Average duration
34 min.
Release period
29 days

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The law impacts almost everything we do, several times a day. Sometimes we break the law and don't even know it! Attorney Bob Sewell explores what is legal in today's society by asking experts the age old question - Is That Even Legal? And getting the answers in plain language...while having a bit of fun.

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When Confessions Stop Being Confidential In Court
2026/09/25
Send us Fan Mail A secret only helps you if the law agrees it’s a secret. We sit down with Spencer Schiefer and Russ Richelsoph to break down three recent Arizona Supreme Court decisions that redraw the lines around confidentiality, privilege, and mandatory reporting, with real stakes and very real consequences. We start with clergy penitent privilege in a criminal context: when someone tells a pastor about a serious crime, what actually stays protected, and what becomes admissible evidence. The court’s new four-part framework turns on specifics like whether the statement is a true confession for absolution, who counts as clergy under that faith’s rules, and whether the communication happens as part of church discipline. We also talk about the practical side: why informal settings and “damage control” talk can destroy a privilege claim, and why you should understand the difference between spiritual counseling and legal protection. Then we move into divorce and custody, where people often rely on a parent or best friend just to get through the process. A new standard makes it harder to keep attorney client communications privileged when a third party is present, even if everyone signs confidentiality paperwork. We explain what “objectively necessary” might look like, why the burden can land on the client, and how this could change day-to-day strategy in family law litigation. We close with the toughest policy question: clergy reporting obligations when child abuse is disclosed, and the confessional carve-out that can block liability for failure to report. If you care about legal ethics, religious liberty, victim protection, and how courts balance competing rights, this conversation will stick with you. Subscribe for more, share this with a friend who loves legal deep dives, and leave a review so more people can find the show.
Who’s Watching? Flock Cameras and Your Constitutional Rights
2026/09/04
Send us Fan Mail Your license plate is not just a number, it is a key that can unlock a timeline of where you have been. We sit down with Robert Fromer, a senior attorney at the Institute for Justice, to unpack how automatic license plate readers (ALPRs) including Flock Safety camera networks collect vehicle data at scale, store it in searchable databases, and create opportunities for both error and abuse. From stalking scandals to misreads that end with innocent drivers pulled over at gunpoint, we focus on the real world costs that rarely show up in glossy “public safety” sales pitches. We also get practical about the Fourth Amendment. We connect modern surveillance to Kyllo v United States and to the Supreme Court’s recent geofence warrant ruling (Chatry), which wrestles with the dangers of pervasive, retrospective location tracking. The core question is simple: when government can cheaply map long term routines and sensitive visits, should that power be treated as a search that requires meaningful judicial oversight? Finally, we shift from theory to action. If your city is considering ALPR deployment, we walk through what to ask at public meetings: camera placement, data retention, who can query the system, what approvals are required, whether audits actually happen, and how funding can bypass democratic accountability. We also look ahead to facial recognition and even national security risks when surveillance credentials or data leak. Subscribe for more clear legal conversations, share this with a friend who cares about privacy, and leave a review to help others find the show. Where do you think the warrant line should be drawn?
Where There's a Will, There's a Way
2026/08/06
Send us Fan Mail You can love your family and still leave them a legal mess. We sit down with attorney Eileen Spangrud to talk about the most common reason people avoid estate planning: it feels like inviting death into your calendar. Then we flip the frame. A will is not a superstition, it is a practical way to protect your spouse, your kids, and your future self with one clear set of instructions. We walk through how a straightforward will process works, including the kind of questionnaire that helps you list assets, name beneficiaries, and choose an executor. From rare collections to charitable gifts, we explain what you can control and what happens when you do nothing and let intestate succession laws step in. The surprises are real, especially for second marriages and blended families, where “the state’s plan” can force outcomes you never would have chosen. Then we get into the traps that cause the biggest probate fights: outdated documents, DIY and holographic wills, and beneficiary designations that do not match your will. We also zoom out to the rest of a complete estate plan: financial power of attorney, healthcare power of attorney, a living will, and an advance directive so your loved ones are not left guessing about money or medical choices at the worst possible time. If you found this helpful, subscribe, share it with someone who keeps saying “I’ll do it later,” and leave a review so more people can find practical estate planning guidance.
When is Bankruptcy Actually the Smart Move?
2026/07/24
Send us Fan Mail Business bankruptcies are rising, and it’s not just the big names making headlines. We’re seeing small businesses get squeezed by higher borrowing costs, inflation-driven expenses, and customers who simply aren’t spending the way they used to. When cash gets tight, owners often feel forced into quick-fix financing like merchant cash advances, and that can turn a temporary slowdown into crushing monthly debt service. We sit down with JoAnn Falgout, an experienced bankruptcy attorney, to walk through what actually happens when a business considers bankruptcy and why the answer is often more nuanced than “close the doors.” We talk about personal guarantees and the hard truth that many owners have signed onto business debt with their own credit, their home equity, and their future on the line. JoAnn explains why draining a 401k or IRA to save the company can be a tragic mistake, since retirement accounts are often exempt in bankruptcy, and why early pre-bankruptcy planning can prevent avoidable problems like preferential transfers. We also dig into Subchapter V Chapter 11, a streamlined reorganization option built for small businesses, including what makes it cheaper, faster, and more realistic than a traditional Chapter 11 for many mom-and-pop operations. Along the way, we compare Chapter 7 liquidation, Chapter 13 repayment plans, and Chapter 11 reorganization, plus what “exemptions” mean in real life for everyday assets. If you’re a business owner, creditor, or just trying to understand small business bankruptcy and debt restructuring, this conversation gives you a clear framework for choosing next steps. Subscribe, share this with a business owner who needs it, and leave us a review.
Summer’s Here, Surf’s Up…Who Owns the Beach and the Waves?
2026/05/22
Send us Fan Mail A beach looks simple until you ask one question that changes everything: where does private property end and public access begin? We sit down with Mark Massara, a “surf lawyer” who has spent decades inside California coastal law, land use fights, and environmental regulation. From the public trust doctrine to the mean high tide line, we break down why the shoreline is treated as a shared space and why attempts to rope off sand can trigger fast enforcement from the California Coastal Commission.  Then we get into the hard part: climate change, sea level rise, and coastal erosion are moving the coastline in real time. We talk about shoreline armoring and seawalls, why they can protect a home while sacrificing the public beach, and how the Coastal Act tries to balance private expectations with long-term coastal resilience. If you’ve ever wondered why “just build a wall” is not a clean fix, this conversation makes the tradeoffs brutally clear.  We also bring it back to the water. What happens when surfers collide, a board gets away, or someone ignores lineup priority? We walk through surfing liability under negligence principles and the four core rules of surf etiquette that keep people safe. Finally, Mark shares the conservation shift he’s seen up close, including why removing kelp wrack can hurt shorebirds and how groups like Surfrider Foundation and Save The Waves protect both beach access and coastal ecosystems. If you care about surfing, ocean conservation, or California beach access rights, subscribe, share this with a beach friend, and leave a review.  Be sure to take a look at these organizations mentioned in the episode.  Save the Waves- https://www.savethewaves.org/ Surfrider Foundation- https://www.surfrider.org/ Operation Surf- https://operationsurf.org/ Me Water Foundation - https://www.mewaterfoundation.org/ Waves of Impact- https://www.wavesofimpact.com/ Surfers Healing - https://www.surfershealing.org/
The Battle Over Groundwater Rights
2026/05/06
Send us Fan Mail Arizona’s housing growth just ran into a question that’s bigger than any one subdivision: who gets to change the rules for water, and how? We sit down with Phoenix water law attorney Michele Van Quatham to unpack a trial court ruling in Home Builders Association of Central Arizona v. Arizona Department of Water Resources, a case that turns on the 100-year assured water supply program and the power of agencies to shift policy without formal rulemaking. We walk through how a developer typically qualifies for a 100-year water certificate in the Phoenix Active Management Area, including the groundwater “physical availability” analysis, hydrology studies tied to specific wells, and the 1,000-foot depth-to-water standard. Then we dig into the conflict sparked by the new Phoenix AMA groundwater model and the resulting pause on new determinations. The key legal issue is administrative procedure: the court finds that expanding the “affected area” to the full regional model functions like a new rule of general applicability, which requires public notice and the Arizona rulemaking process. From there, we connect the courtroom fight to real-world water policy and planning. We discuss a second lawsuit challenging a program that effectively demands 125% to 133% of water supplies, the limits of Colorado River and Central Arizona Project water for replenishment, and why “new water” quickly becomes expensive. Finally, we explore practical paths forward, from advanced water reuse and direct potable reuse to desalination concepts and the complicated water footprint of data centers once energy and cooling are counted. If this conversation helped you see Arizona groundwater management in a new light, subscribe, share the episode, and leave a review.
Can AI replace Human Counsel?
2026/04/08
Send us Fan Mail ChatGPT can draft a motion in seconds, but what happens when the motion is polished nonsense and a real person signs it? We bring on Eran Kahana, a practicing attorney and Stanford Law School research fellow, to unpack a lawsuit that claims OpenAI caused harm by enabling AI generated court filings and effectively “doing law.” The story starts with a settlement, a case of buyer’s regret, and a flood of ChatGPT fueled motions that leave courts and opposing parties paying the price. From there, we dig into the heart of legal AI ethics: hallucinated case citations, confident sounding errors, and why “it passed the bar” marketing can create dangerous expectations for everyday users. Eran makes the case that the better frame is often product liability, not unauthorized practice of law, because foundation model developers knowingly ship tools that can fabricate authority while still sounding right. We also talk about the practical reality inside law firms, where AI can save time when used for brainstorming, but can create real exposure when lawyers treat it like a research engine. We close with the consequences and the future: Rule 11 sanctions, professional discipline, looming malpractice claims, and whether malpractice insurance even covers “delegating judgment to a machine.” Then we zoom out to AI governance and guardrails, including the idea of jurisdiction aware restrictions and stronger refusal modes for legal conclusions. If you care about legal tech, generative AI, and the future of legal practice, hit subscribe, share this with a lawyer friend, and leave a review so more people can find the show. Although AI is not ready for the courtroom now, Eran says just wait. We won't even recognize "justice" a decade from now.
Injury Lawyers Advertise EVERYWHERE...Is That How You Should Choose?
2026/03/16
Send us Fan Mail Arizona changed the rules of the legal game, and most people have no idea it happened. When the state allowed alternative business structures, it opened the door for non-lawyers and private equity to have ownership stakes in law firms and to share in fees, a shift that sounds like “access to justice” on paper but can reshape incentives in the real world. We sit down with Nate Preston, managing attorney at Warnock MacKinlay Law in Scottsdale, to unpack what we’re seeing on the ground in personal injury law. We talk about the billboard boom, why “volume” settlement practices can quietly drag down what injury victims take home, and how insurance companies use reputation and data to decide which firms get serious offers. If a firm rarely litigates, adjusters know it, and that can change everything from the first demand to the final number. Nate also shares concrete stories that show how much money can be left on the table when a lawyer rushes a case: evaluating ongoing pain, timing medical treatment, and digging into underinsured motorist coverage and household policies can turn a small settlement into a life-changing recovery. We also shift to emerging accident trends, including e-bike and e-scooter injuries, sidewalk defect claims against cities with strict 180-day deadlines, and what driverless cars and accident avoidance systems mean for evidence, discovery, and fault arguments. If you want a clearer way to choose a personal injury lawyer in Arizona and avoid getting sold by marketing instead of skill, hit play. Subscribe, share this with someone who needs it, and leave us a review so more people can find the show.
E-Bikes, Kids, And The Law
2026/02/13
Send us Fan Mail A quiet neighborhood, and a pack of teens flying past on throttles—what looks like summer freedom is colliding with a fast-changing legal reality. We unpack the e-bike surge with criminal defense attorney Russ Richelsoph, cutting through confusion about what’s truly an e-bike, what’s an electric motorcycle, and how cities are drawing lines on speed, sidewalks, and rider age. If you’ve wondered whether that “bike” needs a license, plates, or insurance, or why hospitals are seeing daily injuries from these crashes, this conversation lays out the stakes with clarity and real-world examples. We break down the three-class system many states use—Class 1 and 2 capped at 20 mph, Class 3 at 28 mph—and explain why machines like Surron-style electrics are often not e-bikes under Arizona law. Rust walks us through where kids can legally ride, from sidewalk rules that change by city to local helmet mandates for minors. We also talk enforcement: officers checking factory class stickers, issuing citations, and even impounding unlawful bikes. The safety angle is stark—20 mph is advanced cycling speed, especially for distracted teens sharing narrow sidewalks with pedestrians and driveways with turning cars. For parents, the hidden risk is civil liability. If a child injures someone, attorneys may target the adult who bought the machine, arguing negligent entrustment. We outline practical steps to reduce danger and exposure: verify the bike’s legal class and top speed, learn your city’s code, require helmets and lights, teach right-way riding and stopping, and call your insurance agent to confirm coverage under homeowners, renters, auto, or umbrella policies. Smart boundaries and the right gear keep the ride fun, safe, and firmly on the right side of the law. If this helped you navigate the e-bike maze, subscribe, leave a review, and share the episode with a friend who’s shopping for a “bike” that might be a motorcycle. What rules does your city enforce, and do you think teens should need training before riding? We’d love to hear your take.
Can A Forged Deed Cost You Your House?
2026/01/13
Send us Fan Mail A forged deed, a ticking clock, and a court that says the fix belongs to lawmakers—this conversation goes deep into how Arizona’s property laws shape real lives. We walk through Dominguez v. Dominguez, where a recorded deed alleged to be forged collided with a five‑year statute tied to property tax payments. The result is unsettling: an elderly homeowner can lose title if fraud isn’t challenged in time. The concurrence even warns that this reading could become a blueprint for deed thieves. We unpack why the justices still chose restraint, applying the statute as written and pointing the finger at the legislature to close the gap. Then we pivot to Aroca v. Tang Investment, where the court extinguished a deed of trust after the limitations period on the underlying debt expired, rejecting the idea that liens can linger forever. If a lender sleeps on its rights, the lien goes too. That may sting in post‑crash scenarios and for second liens, but it brings certainty to chains of title and aligns with broader policy around timely enforcement. Together, these cases show a consistent philosophy: courts interpret law; lawmakers set policy. If the rules enable deed fraud or crush lenders, the remedy is legislative. We share practical steps you can take now. Homeowners and families can set up county title alerts, keep tight control of original documents, watch tax bills, and get counsel at the first hint of title activity. Lenders can audit dormant notes, calendar deadlines, and streamline enforcement so claims don’t die on the vine. And for those who want change, the path is civic, not judicial: advocate for a discovery‑rule fix to forged deeds, stronger notary standards, and better recording notice. If you care about protecting homes, cleaning up title, and keeping courts in their lane, this one’s for you. Subscribe, share with someone who owns property in Arizona, and leave a review telling us which outcome you’d change and why.
Office Romance: Policy, Pitfalls, Protection
2025/12/08
Send us Fan Mail A viral kiss cam, a CEO resignation, and a very public reminder: office romance isn’t rare - and it’s not harmless when power, pay, and promotions are on the line. We dive into the real legal and cultural risks with employment attorney David Weisman, separating sensational headlines from practical steps every company can take today. We walk through why the riskiest relationships are supervisor–subordinate pairings, how undisclosed romances turn into conflicts of interest, and why “consensual” can change the moment a breakup happens. From the McDonald’s and retail leadership cases to everyday teams in hospitals and service industries, we unpack how favoritism—real or perceived—triggers complaints, erodes morale, and pushes good people out. David explains the role of a clear fraternization policy, what a consensual relationship agreement (aka love contract) actually does, and the nonnegotiable move to end reporting relationships when dating occurs. Policy without practice is a liability. That’s why we dig into scenario-based training that sets boundaries employees can remember: one respectful ask, no means no, and never across power lines. We cover documentation, graduated discipline, and fast, fair investigations that protect people and the business. If you lead a team, work in HR, or just want a healthier workplace, you’ll leave with a playbook to handle relationships transparently, reduce risk, and keep trust intact. If this conversation helped you, follow the show, share it with your team, and leave a quick review so more listeners can find it. Got a thorny workplace question you want us to tackle next? Send it to producer at evenlegal.com.
Cross-Border Judgments, Plainly Explained
2025/11/03
Send us Fan Mail A cousin-to-cousin loan sounds simple—until the judgment crosses an ocean. We walk through a striking case where a Nigerian court entered a money judgment and an Arizona court recognized it, revealing how comity, reciprocity, and due process shape whether foreign creditors can collect in the United States. With commercial litigator Marshall Hunt, we unpack the Uniform Foreign Country Money Judgments Recognition Act, Arizona’s added reciprocity requirement, and the practical tests courts use to decide if a foreign judgment deserves respect. We break down what “due process” really means in cross-border disputes: proper notice, a real chance to respond, and a court with legitimate authority over the parties. You’ll hear how service by email can satisfy legal standards, how personal jurisdiction turns on purposeful contacts and the place of the transaction, and why judgments for taxes, penalties, or family matters usually won’t be recognized. Along the way, we compare U.S. and Nigerian procedures, highlight why Arizona diverges from the modern trend, and show how Rule 44.1 lets courts consider expert affidavits to understand foreign law. For founders, in-house counsel, and dealmakers, the stakes are real. Recognition rules influence contract drafting, venue and governing law clauses, and enforcement strategy when deals go south. Respecting competent foreign judgments saves time, reduces costs, and avoids conflicting rulings, while reciprocity helps U.S. businesses receive fair treatment abroad. If you move money, goods, or services across borders, this conversation gives you the tools to plan smarter: document contacts, choose enforceable forums, define service methods, and know the defenses that actually work. Enjoyed the conversation? Follow the show, share it with a colleague who handles international deals, and leave a quick review to help others find us. Your questions and stories power future episodes—send them our way and join the dialogue.
Swift, Kelce, and the Prenup Playbook
2025/10/14
Send us Fan Mail The law doesn’t care how romantic your story is: creditors, community property rules, and default statutes move the same way whether you’re a billionaire songwriter or a hometown athlete. We dig into the real purpose of a prenup: not to plan a breakup, but to build a clear financial framework that protects income, isolates debt, and keeps your estate plan from turning into a family brawl. Using the Swift–Kelce engagement as a timely lens, we translate headline drama into practical guidance anyone can use. We walk through the biggest misconceptions first. In many states, money earned after the wedding becomes community property, even if it lands in an account titled to one spouse. That means one partner’s creditors can reach the other partner’s earnings or bonuses without a single misstep at home. A well-crafted prenup flips those defaults, designating income as separate, walling off business liabilities, and preventing “community liens” from quietly forming on premarital assets like homes, companies, and royalties. We also map the clauses that matter most: property characterization, income rules, debt allocation, spousal support options, disclosure and counsel requirements, and dispute resolution that keeps fights out of court. Estate planning gets a spotlight too. Clear property definitions reduce probate and trust litigation, especially for blended families balancing care for a spouse with inheritances for children. We share cautionary tales - from invalid napkin contracts to celebrity payouts - and explain why DIY templates and last-minute signatures invite disaster. If you own a business, bring a home into marriage, have kids from a prior relationship, or carry complex debts, this is your playbook for protecting love from legal fallout. Subscribe, share this episode with a friend who’s engaged, and leave a quick review to help more people find practical legal insight without the jargon.
Love 'em or hate 'em, big trucks are with us for the long haul...
2025/09/23
Send us Fan Mail Behind the wheel of every commercial truck is a driver navigating not just America's highways, but a complex maze of regulations that would fill an entire office if printed. Attorney Zac Hargis pulls back the curtain on the unseen challenges facing the transportation industry in this eye-opening conversation about truck drivers' daily regulatory battles. From the moment they start their day with federally mandated pre-trip inspections to managing electronic logging devices while safely operating vehicles weighing up to 80,000 pounds, truckers face scrutiny at every turn. A single traffic stop can trigger citations at local, state, and federal levels, potentially resulting in fines exceeding $10,000 – enough to devastate a small trucking operation. Meanwhile, these professionals must contend with aggressive passenger vehicles, blind spots that can hide entire cars, and the physics that make it impossible for them to stop as quickly as smaller vehicles expect. The conversation explores everything from cross-border transportation challenges to the reality that truck drivers face medical scrutiny similar to airline pilots. Sleep apnea, diabetes, and other health conditions aren't just personal matters for truckers – they're regulatory concerns that can impact their livelihood. Hargis also addresses the isolation of life on the road and how truck stops have become unfairly stigmatized despite facing "no more illegal activity than their fair share." Perhaps most importantly, this episode reminds us of the essential service these road warriors provide. "I've got food on my table because of a truck driver. I've got this shirt on my back because of a truck driver," Hargis notes, emphasizing that most drivers take immense pride in their work despite the sacrifices it demands. Next time you're tempted to cut off a semi or become impatient behind one climbing a hill, remember – they're not trying to slow you down; they're doing their best to keep America running while navigating an almost insurmountable regulatory environment. Listen now to gain a new perspective on the trucks and drivers that make modern life possible, and learn how specialized legal services are helping these professionals stay on the road.
How a Pro Bono Case Changed Lives Across Continents - an Asylum Victory
2025/08/25
Send us Fan Mail When Taylor Barlow decided to take on a pro bono asylum case, he never imagined it would become the most emotionally significant work of his legal career. His client's story reads like a political thriller – a peaceful activist from Togo who organized an 800,000-person march against a dictatorial regime, only to face years of brutal retaliation including kidnappings, beatings, and torture. After military police broke into his home, beating him and his young son unconscious, this father of two made the heartbreaking choice to leave his family behind and flee for his life. What followed was a harrowing two-month journey through South and Central America, including the notoriously deadly Darién Gap jungle crossing, where "one in three migrants die." Twice kidnapped in Mexico before finally reaching the U.S. border, he was immediately detained and placed in removal proceedings. This episode takes listeners deep into the complex, often misunderstood asylum process. We witness Barlow's fight against nearly impossible odds – a 90-minute hearing (reduced from four hours) to present a decade of persecution, technical legal barriers because his client crossed without an appointment, and the gut-wrenching realization that even proving all elements of asylum might not be enough as "asylum is completely discretionary." The emotional climax comes when Barlow's rarely successful motion for reconsideration is granted, securing his client's freedom and future. Beyond the legal victory, we glimpse the profound human impact as this new asylee sends his attorney a poignant photo of himself standing beneath an American flag on July 4th – a man who nearly died for the freedom to protest now finding refuge in a nation founded on that very principle. What makes this story so compelling is how it puts a human face on asylum policy while showcasing the life-changing impact of pro bono legal work. As Barlow reflects, "This mattered to this guy and it mattered to his wife and to his little kids... I saw myself and I saw my kids in him and his kids." Have you ever wondered what rights we take for granted? Listen now and consider what price others pay for freedoms we exercise daily without a second thought.

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5 out of 5
47 reviews
★★★★☆
Cyber Bobs 2023/05/31
Awesome podcast for the lawyer and layman alike
And relevant. The AI episode predicted something that just happened — a lawyer was caught using ChatGPT to write a filing, except the AI “hallucinated...
★★★★★
Sam D15 2022/08/21
Interesting law podcast
I’ve been listening now for about 6 episodes. So interesting. I like how each episode breaks down the law so everyone knows what it means.
★★★★★
Julie-Your Expert Guest 2020/12/18
Eye opening!
The legal world can sometimes be foreign to those without a legal background and the topics and discussions here are fantastic. I’m learning a ton!
★★★★★
footourist 2020/08/14
Future of Law
Soooo goood!
★★★★★
Dapom001 2020/08/05
Enjoying it so far
The podcast is very interesting so far!
★★★★★
Tallsoprano 2020/07/23
Terrific!
Always clear and concise presentation of legal issues.
★★★★★
kchalver 2020/03/13
#metoo
Very clear and informative- great information! Thank you!
★★★★★
gracesmith6789 2020/02/17
5 Stars
Super informative and interesting podcast!
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IsaacLaughter 2020/02/16
Concise
Nice podcast. I actually met with both Bob and Rich on separate occasions for two different legal matters. Russ helped me out of a jam with the Post...
★★★★★
DGbullsnbears 2020/02/02
Wealth of knowledge
This is the podcast for non-lawyers to learn about the law and for lawyers to expand their knowledge into other areas of the law. 20 minutes to open ...
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