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74 episodes
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Date created
2020/01/27
Latest episode
2026/04/06
Average duration
31 min.
Release period
10 days
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Welcome to the Defender, Wisconsin's environmental podcast, where we talk about the most pressing environmental issues facing Wisconsin and how you can plug in to defend our air, water, land and climate. The Defender is hosted by former radio and TV journalist Amy Barrilleaux. She'll help cut through the jargon and all the misinformation that's out there and have real conversations about how to build a healthy, sustainable future. Every week, Amy talks with scientists, advocates, farmers, experts, and just everyday people who are working right here in Wisconsin to make a difference to protect this place we call home.
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How Chefs Can Protect the Planet
2026/04/06
Wisconsin was one of the first places where the farm-to-table movement really took root. But now that movement is changing, becoming more urgent in the face of the flooding, droughts, and changing weather patterns that are taking a toll on our food systems.
In this episode, Amy welcomes Madison's 2025 Chef of the Year Evan Danells of Cadre to talk about why these days chefs are adding protecting the planet to the menu.
Host: Amy Barrilleaux
Guest: Chef Evan Danells, Cadre
Resources for You:
2026 Epicurean Evening Menu & Tickets
What's a Data Center Tariff and Why Should You Care?
2026/03/23
Right now there are three AI data centers under construction in Wisconsin. So how do you minimize the toll they will take on our environment and our energy bills?
On this episode, a deep dive into data center tariffs at the PSC and what they mean for you.
Host: Amy Barrilleaux
Guest: Clean Wisconsin Attorney Brett Korte
Resources for You:
Petition: Stop Unchecked AI Data Center Devlopment
Related Episodes:
Episode 56: Data Center Secrets
Episode 59: Who's Paying for Data Centers?
Episode 60: Hey tech companies, your gas is showing!
Episode 63: How Caledonia, WI Defeated a Date Center
Episode 67: The Nuclear Option
Meet The Teen Who Is Suing Wisconsin Over Climate Change
2026/03/16
The science supporting climate change has long been settled, but progress remains painfully slow. Especially here in Wisconsin, where we have laws on the books that are actively helping to keep fossil fuels burning here.
But maybe not for long. In this episode meet one of 15 kids who is suing our state over climate change.
Host: Amy Barrilleaux
Guests:
Madeleine Bohn, Wisconsin High School Student
Skylar Harris, Attorney, Midwest Environmental Advocates
Chaos Theory: Fighting the rapid fire attacks on our environment
2026/03/09
On this episode, a look at the fallout from a rapid dismantling of environmental protections, and what groups like Clean Wisconsin and so many others are doing to keep people safe.
Host: Amy Barrilleaux
Guest: Katie Nekola, Clean Wisconsin General Counsel
Resources For You:
Economic Impacts of the "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" Energy Provisions on Wisconsin
Clean Wisconsin Sues EPA Over Repeal Of Climate Protections
The Truth About Grassfed Beef
2026/03/02
What makes the food you eat healthy? Turns out it's a pretty complicated question that goes way beyond the four food groups. In this episode, Amy visits Starry Nights Farm in Burlington to learn about some groundbreaking research—involving beef raised right here in Wisconsin—that's changing the way we look at food and nutrition.
Host: Amy Barrilleaux
Guests: Paul Maggio and Marisa Wiewall, Starry Nights Farm
Resources for You:
Nutritional Comparisons Between Grass-Fed Beef and Conventional Grain-Fed Beef
Defining Nutrient Density in Beef
Starry Nights Farm
Defender Episode 57: Wisconsin's Forbidden Fruit
Defender Episode 45: Cows, Tall Grass and Wind Turbines
How Superior WI Defeated a Gas Plant
2026/02/16
Communities across Wisconsin are starting to push back when energy utilities come to town with big plans for big gas plants. But how do you turn opposition into victory?
In this episode, Amy talks with the mayor of Superior about the city's long journey to defeat the Nemadji Trail Energy Center—the ugly gas plant with the pretty name.
Host: Amy Barrilleaux
Guest: Mayor Jim Paine, Superior, Wis.
Resources for You:
Under the Lens: The Truth About Natural Gas
The Nuclear Option
2026/02/09
There is a lot of new excitement around nuclear energy these days, and no coincidence, it comes as we face staggering energy demands from AI data centers. Now, the Trump Administration is relaxing environmental and safety regulations for new nuclear reactors. In this episode, a look at what would happen to our environment - and our energy bills - if utilities race to meet AI demand by building more nuclear reactors.
Host: Amy Barrilleaux
Guest: Katie Nekola, General Counsel, Clean Wisconsin
Why Wisconsin should be more like Texas!
2026/02/02
In the race to transition to clean, safe energy, there are lessons to be learned just about everywhere, including in Texas.
In this episode, what January's major winter storm is teaching us about our power grid—and the painful lesson we are all going to learn this month about natural gas.
Host: Amy Barrilleaux
Guest: Ciaran Gallagher, PhD, Energy and Air Manager, Clean Wisconsin
Why Help on Forever Chemicals is Taking… Forever
2026/01/26
On this episode, some real hope that a bipartisan solution for state PFAS funding is at hand -- and the industry that is coming in at the last minute to try to kill it.
Host: Amy Barrilleaux
Guest: Erik Kanter, Government Relations Director, Clean Wisconsin
Resources for You:
Clean Wisconsin Action Network
What did the EPA just do?
2026/01/20
In this episode, how new action from the EPA is undermining one of the most successful environmental laws in US history.
Host: Amy Barrilleaux
Guest: Nick Mailloux, PhD Student, Nelson Institute for Environmental Studies
Resources for You:
Join Clean Wisconsin's Action Network
Pollution and Our Health: The Environmental Health Initiative
How Caledonia WI Defeated a Data Center
2026/01/12
In this episode, how a small Wisconsin community stood up to one of the most powerful companies in the world… and won. And what we can all learn from their fight.
Host: Amy Barrilleaux
Guest: Prescott Balch, Village of Caledonia resident
Resources for You:
Stop Unchecked Data Center Development (petition)
AI Data Center Energy Demand Analysis
AI Data Center Offsite Water Withdrawals
What to know about PFAS pesticides
2025/12/15
On this episode a look what could be sprayed on food and farm fields all around us - plus a bit of Wisconsin history that offers some hope as we confront a new batch of toxic chemicals.
Host: Amy Barrilleaux
Guest: Sara Walling, Clean Wisconsin Water & Agency Program Director
Resources for You:
Under the Lens: What we know about PFAS in Wisconsin's Water
Nitrate pollution's impact on Wisconsn's health and economy
Neonicotinoid pesticides and their impact
Episode 43: The pesticides that could be lurking in your pollinator garden
Episode 33: Wisconsin's bees are acting weird. Here's why.
Episode 29: Trump's Threat to Safe Water (and how WI can fight back!)
Goodbye Grocery Store?
2025/12/08
Meet the Wisconsin native who is foraging 100% of his food.
What was the last thing you foraged? Maybe some ramps, or morels? But what about your salt, oil, even toothpaste? On this episode, meet the Wisconsin native who is setting out to prove that he can not only survive for an entire year eating only food he has foraged, but he can also help show the true connection to nature most of us have been missing.
Host: Amy Barrilleaux
Guest: Robin Greenfield, Sustainability Advocate, Ashland Wis. native
Resources for You:
robingreenfield.org
Food Freedom: A Year of Growing and Foraging 100% of My Food
Robin Greenfield YouTube Channel
Defender Episode 57: Wisconsin's Forbidden Fruit
Hey Tech Companies, Your Gas is Showing!
2025/11/24
Don't look at the gas plant behind the curtain! If you feel like tech companies and energy utilities are gaslighting you with their assurances that AI data centers won't hurt our environment, you're probably right.
In this episode, how AI is causing a fossil fuel boom in Wisconsin and the lawsuit just filed to try and stop it.
Host: Amy Barrilleaux
Guests:
Katie Nekola, General Cousnel, Clean Wisconsin
Ciaran Gallagher, Climate & Air Manager, Clean Wisconsin
Resources for You:
Petition: Take A Stand Against Unchecked Data Center Development
New Analysis: Data Center Water Consumption Will Be Far Higher Than Tech Companies Claim
Analysis: Two approved AI data centers in Wisconsin will use more energy than all homes in state combined
PSC approves plan to power AI data center with gas plants
Who's Really Paying for Data Centers?
2025/11/17
You may have heard, Wisconsin needs more power and we need it fast. In the next few years, AI data centers will cause an unprecedented surge in energy demand across our state. There are already large expensive new powerplants being built to help meet that demand with more to come. But the big question is, will Wisconsinites be left shouldering the cost?
In this episode, the shocking energy needs of AI, why our power companies are rolling out the red carpet, and the lasting environmental and economic harms that could be left in the wake.
Host: Amy Barrilleaux
Guest: Tom Content, Citizens Utility Board (CUB)
Resources for You:
Citizens Utility Board Data Centers Page
Petition: Take A Stand Against Unchecked Data Center Development
New Analysis: Data Center Water Consumption Will Be Far Higher Than Tech Companies Claim
Analysis: Two approved AI data centers in Wisconsin will use more energy than all homes in state combined
PSC approves plan to power AI data center with gas plants
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chicsweetie88 2026/02/11
excellent!!
Fact based, local environmental analysis- a weekly must listen for me!
j.internet 2025/10/03
Must listen
Clean Wisconsin does a great job of breaking down complicated environmental issues in their Defender podcast. Between this and the Defender newsletter...
KT 316 2025/02/28
Approachable & important!
This show makes me interested in topics I didn't even think I cared about. Takes on important environmental issues without being overwhelming.
Palmtree78 2025/02/19
On the Rebranding
Love the rebranding of this podcast! The down-to-earth interviews help to demystify the opportunities that we all have to protect and restore Mother E...
BeccaLuke 2023/02/23
Approachable, accessible, important
This podcast is a must-listen for environmentally minded Wisconsinites.
Fuxtrava 2021/02/08
In-depth, informative and objective
Clean Wisconsin does a fantastic job of examining complex environmental issues affecting the state without resorting to breathless hyperbole or fear m...
jarseneau 2020/09/22
A+
This podcast is extremely interesting and informative. 10/10 would recommend!
Babsle14 2020/03/13
I really appreciate this new podcast!
I am better informed about important issues that affect me and others in my state from listening to these podcasts. I also like that I am given action...
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