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2020/02/06
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2026/08/18
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100th Episode Extravaganza | EMBARGOED! Episode 100
2026/08/18
Happy 100th Episode! Tim O'Toole is joined by EMBARGOED! co-founder and co-host emeritus Brian Fleming (Steptoe LLP), plus colleagues Melissa Burgess and Collmann Griffin (Miller & Chevalier), for a celebratory recording of the 100th episode of the podcast. In a special edition of the Lightning Round, the team shares thoughts about developments in Iran, Russia, and Cuba sanctions. Along the way, they also revisit a few crystal ball predictions from prior episodes, reveal the EMBARGOED! origin story, and respond to a few AI-generated comments.
Roadmap:
Lightning Round
Iran sanctions updates
Proposed Russia sanctions legislation (Lindsey O. Graham Sanctioning Russia Act of 2026)
Cuba sanctions updates
The EMBARGOED! origin story
Correcting AI comments
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Thanks to our guests for joining us!
Brian Fleming: https://www.steptoe.com/en/lawyers/brian-j-fleming.html
Melissa Burgess: https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/melissa-burgess
Collmann Griffin: https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/collmann-griffin
Questions? Contact us at [email protected].
EMBARGOED! is not intended and cannot be relied on as legal advice; the content only reflects the thoughts and opinions of its hosts. EMBARGOED! is intelligent talk about sanctions, export controls, and all things international trade for trade nerds and normal human beings alike. Each episode will feature deep thoughts and hot takes about the latest headline-grabbing developments in this area of the law, as well as some below-the-radar items to keep an eye on. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts for new episodes so you don't miss out!
Sanctions History Trivia | EMBARGOED! Episode 99
2026/07/21
Host Tim O'Toole is joined by colleagues Melissa Burgess and Collmann Griffin (Miller & Chevalier) and guest Rachel Alpert (Jenner & Block) to dive into the history of U.S. economic sanctions. Kicking off the episode, the group tackles a range of trivia questions about predecessors to OFAC, sanctions licensing, sanctions measures dating back to the Revolutionary War, and more. Draft-style, each participant then unpacks favorite and obscure sanctions programs and targets from Southern Rhodesia to unregulated fishing.
Roadmap:
Update to Episode 98: Two Minutes about Tehran
Trivia
OFAC Predecessors
OFAC FAQ 1
Where to apply for a specific license
Precursor to the SDN List
Why are they called “Specially Designated Nationals”?
On this date: February 18, 2020
Definitions of the United States/OFAC's historic jurisdiction
British comprehensive embargo of the U.S.
First U.S. countersanctions and first U.S. embargo
Draft Picks
Southern Rhodesia and South Africa
Danzig and Democratic Kampuchea
Illegal, unreported, and unregulated fishing
Revolutionary War sanctions
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Thanks to our guests for joining us!
Rachel Alpert: https://www.jenner.com/en/people/rachel-alpert
Melissa Burgess: https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/melissa-burgess
Collmann Griffin: https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/collmann-griffin
Questions? Contact us at [email protected].
EMBARGOED! is not intended and cannot be relied on as legal advice; the content only reflects the thoughts and opinions of its hosts. EMBARGOED! is intelligent talk about sanctions, export controls, and all things international trade for trade nerds and normal human beings alike. Each episode will feature deep thoughts and hot takes about the latest headline-grabbing developments in this area of the law, as well as some below-the-radar items to keep an eye on. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts for new episodes so you don't miss out!
Emergency Pod: Iran MOU | EMBARGOED! Episode 98
2026/07/02
In this emergency episode, host Tim O'Toole is joined again by colleague Melissa Burgess (Miller & Chevalier) to discuss sanctions aspects of the June 17, 2026, Islamabad Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between the U.S. and Iran and legal considerations impacting the lifting of sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran. The episode reviews paragraphs 7 and 10 of the MOU before taking a brief tour through the nearly 50-year history of sanctions on Iran and some of the key sanctions authorities. They discuss a sampling of reporting, waiver, and certification considerations, examine General License X, and share thoughts on some of the more difficult potential sanctions delistings.
Roadmap:
Paragraphs 7 and 10 of the MOU
Where do the Iran sanctions come from?
Carter EO, Clinton EO, IEEPA, Iran Sanctions Act
INARA and CISADA: certifications, waivers, and statutory sunset considerations
General License X
Hardest delistings
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Thanks to Melissa for joining us! https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/melissa-burgess
Questions? Contact us at [email protected].
EMBARGOED! is not intended and cannot be relied on as legal advice; the content only reflects the thoughts and opinions of its hosts. EMBARGOED! is intelligent talk about sanctions, export controls, and all things international trade for trade nerds and normal human beings alike. Each episode will feature deep thoughts and hot takes about the latest headline-grabbing developments in this area of the law, as well as some below-the-radar items to keep an eye on. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts for new episodes so you don't miss out!
The Gold Episode | EMBARGOED! Episode 97
2026/06/17
In this episode, host Tim O'Toole is joined by special guests Brad Brooks-Rubin (Arktouros) and Dr. David Soud (I.R. Consilium), as well as colleagues Collmann Griffin and Melissa Burgess (Miller & Chevalier), to discuss the many connections between gold and sanctions. The episode begins by exploring gold as a natural resource, the gold supply chain, and the difficulties of tracing gold. We also examine gold as a payment mechanism throughout history, and gold's function in foreign exchange transactions. Along the way, the episode dives into restrictions on gold in sanctions programs from the early days of the Trading with the Enemy Act through current Russia and Venezuela sanctions, cartel involvement in the gold supply chain, and use of gold as a hedge against sanctions.
Roadmap:
Gold 101
What are the risks related to Venezuela gold, despite the recent sanctions lifting in that sector?
What are the connections between gold and cartels?
How did Russia seek to use gold as part of its countersanctions strategy? How did the United States respond?
What is the connection between gold and conflict, for example in the DRC and Sudan? How can sanctions counter this?
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Thanks to our guests for joining us!
Brad Brooks-Rubin: https://www.arktouros.co/team/bbr
Dr. David Soud: https://irconsilium.com/david-soud/
Melissa Burgess: https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/melissa-burgess
Collmann Griffin: https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/collmann-griffin
Questions? Contact us at [email protected].
EMBARGOED! is not intended and cannot be relied on as legal advice; the content only reflects the thoughts and opinions of its hosts. EMBARGOED! is intelligent talk about sanctions, export controls, and all things international trade for trade nerds and normal human beings alike. Each episode will feature deep thoughts and hot takes about the latest headline-grabbing developments in this area of the law, as well as some below-the-radar items to keep an eye on. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts for new episodes so you don't miss out!
Sanctions and the State Department – Part 2 | EMBARGOED! Episode 96
2026/04/01
In this episode, host Tim O'Toole is again joined by colleagues Collmann Griffin and Melissa Burgess (Miller & Chevalier) and special guests Erik Woodhouse (former Deputy Assistant Secretary for Counter Threat Finance and Sanctions in the Bureau of Economic and Business Affairs (EB) at the Department of State) and Joshua Kretman (former Deputy Assistant Secretary (Acting) in EB, who also spent several years as the lead sanctions attorney in the Office of the Legal Adviser at State). In part 2 of their discussion of State's role in sanctions, Erik and Josh address an unanswered question from part 1, then explain the coordination and separation between State and OFAC in licensing and enforcement. The discussion also covers a recent case addressing State’s power to designate and delist, as well as State's role when one of its decisions is challenged in court.
Roadmap:
Separation between OFAC and State in enforcement
State’s general role in sanctions license adjudication
Sanctions enforcement versus sanctions implementation
Challenging State designations, and the inherent power to delist
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Thanks to our guest for joining us:
Joshua Kretman: https://www.dentons.com/en/joshua-kretman
Erik Woodhouse: https://www.crowell.com/en/professionals/erik-woodhouse
Melissa Burgess: https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/melissa-burgess
Collmann Griffin: https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/collmann-griffin
Questions? Contact us at [email protected].
EMBARGOED! is not intended and cannot be relied on as legal advice; the content only reflects the thoughts and opinions of its hosts. EMBARGOED! is intelligent talk about sanctions, export controls, and all things international trade for trade nerds and normal human beings alike. Each episode will feature deep thoughts and hot takes about the latest headline-grabbing developments in this area of the law, as well as some below-the-radar items to keep an eye on. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts for new episodes so you don't miss out!
Sanctions and the State Department – Part 1 | EMBARGOED! Episode 95
2026/03/16
In this episode, host Tim O’Toole is joined by colleagues Collmann Griffin and Melissa Burgess (Miller & Chevalier), and special guests Erik Woodhouse (former Deputy Assistant Secretary for Counter Threat Finance and Sanctions in the Bureau of Economic and Business Affairs (EB) at the Department of State) and Joshua Kretman (former Deputy Assistant Secretary (Acting) in EB, who also spent several years as the lead sanctions attorney in the Office of the Legal Adviser at State). In part 1 of this discussion, Erik and Josh explain the structure and various players working on sanctions within State, walk through the process of creating a new sanctions program, and discuss State's role in sanctions targeting.
Roadmap:
Introductions and former positions at State
Background on the State Department
What role does State play in sanctions?
Are there issues where State would want to hear from clients? What kinds of issues would you consider raising with State
Venezuela: What role do you think State will play/is playing in this space?
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Thanks to our guest for joining us:
Joshua Kretman: https://www.dentons.com/en/joshua-kretman
Erik Woodhouse: https://www.crowell.com/en/professionals/erik-woodhouse
Melissa Burgess: https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/melissa-burgess
Collmann Griffin: https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/collmann-griffin
Questions? Contact us at [email protected].
EMBARGOED! is not intended and cannot be relied on as legal advice; the content only reflects the thoughts and opinions of its hosts. EMBARGOED! is intelligent talk about sanctions, export controls, and all things international trade for trade nerds and normal human beings alike. Each episode will feature deep thoughts and hot takes about the latest headline-grabbing developments in this area of the law, as well as some below-the-radar items to keep an eye on. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts for new episodes so you don't miss out!
CFIUS (and Reverse CFIUS) in 2025: A Year in Review | EMBARGOED! Episode 94
2026/03/02
In this episode, Host Tim O'Toole is once again joined by Melissa Burgess, Counsel at Miller & Chevalier. Tim and Melissa discuss the major events and developments in 2025 for the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) and the Outbound Investment program that is sometimes referred to as "Reverse CFIUS" (because it involves restrictions on U.S. investment into foreign countries, rather than foreign investment in the U.S.). Tim and Melissa also shared their thoughts on what might be coming in 2026.
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Thanks to our guest for joining us:
Melissa Burgess: https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/melissa-burgess
Questions? Contact us at [email protected].
EMBARGOED! is not intended and cannot be relied on as legal advice; the content only reflects the thoughts and opinions of its hosts. EMBARGOED! is intelligent talk about sanctions, export controls, and all things international trade for trade nerds and normal human beings alike. Each episode will feature deep thoughts and hot takes about the latest headline-grabbing developments in this area of the law, as well as some below-the-radar items to keep an eye on. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts for new episodes so you don't miss out!
BIS 2025 Year in Review | EMBARGOED! Episode 93
2026/02/13
Host Tim O'Toole is joined by guests Melissa Burgess (Counsel at Miller & Chevalier) and Michael Burton (Partner at Jacobsen Burton Kelley) to make their draft picks from a pool of Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS) actions in 2025. Throughout the draft, they dissect each other’s choices, issue some compliments, suggest New Year's resolutions for the agency, and propose a new test for BIS agents. Picks include what BIS didn't do in 2025, the Affiliates Rule, and lifting comprehensive sanctions on Syria.
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Thanks to our guests for joining us:
Michael Burton: https://www.jbktradelaw.com/michael-l-burton
Melissa Burgess: https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/melissa-burgess
Questions? Contact us at [email protected].
EMBARGOED! is not intended and cannot be relied on as legal advice; the content only reflects the thoughts and opinions of its hosts. EMBARGOED! is intelligent talk about sanctions, export controls, and all things international trade for trade nerds and normal human beings alike. Each episode will feature deep thoughts and hot takes about the latest headline-grabbing developments in this area of the law, as well as some below-the-radar items to keep an eye on. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts for new episodes so you don't miss out!
OFAC 2025 Year in Review | EMBARGOED! Episode 92
2026/01/14
Happy new year from your friends at EMBARGOED! Tim and Miller & Chevalier's Caroline Watson and Collmann Griffin draft the most significant OFAC events of 2025. The draft is three rounds and picks include sanctions relating to Iran, narco-trafficking, Yemen, Russia, Venezuela, Syria, China, and the International Criminal Court (ICC).
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Thanks to our guests for joining us:
Collmann Griffin: https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/collmann-griffin
Caroline Watson: https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/caroline-j-watson
Questions? Contact us at [email protected].
EMBARGOED! is not intended and cannot be relied on as legal advice; the content only reflects the thoughts and opinions of its hosts. EMBARGOED! is intelligent talk about sanctions, export controls, and all things international trade for trade nerds and normal human beings alike. Each episode will feature deep thoughts and hot takes about the latest headline-grabbing developments in this area of the law, as well as some below-the-radar items to keep an eye on. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts for new episodes so you don't miss out!
Shipping Compliance with Sanctions Expert Claire O'Neill McCleskey | EMBARGOED! Episode 91
2025/12/19
On this episode of EMBARGOED!, host Tim O'Toole is joined by Miller & Chevalier's Collmann Griffin and Claire O'Neill McCleskey, former Head of the OFAC Compliance Division, to discuss sanctions compliance in the shipping industry.
Roadmap:
Typologies
Iran
Russia, including Lukoil/Rosneft and price cap
North Korea
How can you protect yourself?
Best commercial screening tools
Tips for insurers
Price cap
EU/U.S. divergence
Foreign Terrorist Organizations (FTOs)/cartels
Tips for flag registries
Are S2S transfers ever okay?
*******
Thanks to our guests for joining us:
Claire O'Neill McCleskey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/claire-o-neill-mccleskey/
Collmann Griffin: https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/collmann-griffin
Questions? Contact us at [email protected].
EMBARGOED! is not intended and cannot be relied on as legal advice; the content only reflects the thoughts and opinions of its hosts. EMBARGOED! is intelligent talk about sanctions, export controls, and all things international trade for trade nerds and normal human beings alike. Each episode will feature deep thoughts and hot takes about the latest headline-grabbing developments in this area of the law, as well as some below-the-radar items to keep an eye on. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts for new episodes so you don't miss out!
Sanctions & Export Control Evasion with Conflict Armament Research's Damien Spleeters | EMBARGOED! Episode 90
2025/11/26
This week, host Tim O'Toole chats with Damien Spleeters (Conflict Armament Research) and return guest Collmann Griffin (Miller & Chevalier) about how bad actors use sophisticated evasion tactics to circumvent U.S. export controls and sanctions to obtain components America's adversaries need for missiles, drones, and other weapons systems.
Roadmap:
Background on Conflict Armament Research (CAR), particularly CAR's work in Ukraine
Western components that end up in Russian, Iranian, North Korean, and other weapons systems and how this overlaps with the BIS Common High Priority List (CHPL)
A walkthrough of how an item makes its way from a U.S.-owned fabricator to a foreign weapons system
Screening/due diligence steps recommended for manufacturers and distributors of high-priority items
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Thanks to our guests for joining us:
Damien Spleeters: https://www.linkedin.com/in/damienspleeters/
Collmann Griffin: https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/collmann-griffin
Questions? Contact us at [email protected].
EMBARGOED! is not intended and cannot be relied on as legal advice; the content only reflects the thoughts and opinions of its hosts. EMBARGOED! is intelligent talk about sanctions, export controls, and all things international trade for trade nerds and normal human beings alike. Each episode will feature deep thoughts and hot takes about the latest headline-grabbing developments in this area of the law, as well as some below-the-radar items to keep an eye on. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts for new episodes so you don't miss out!
South of the Border | EMBARGOED! Episode 89
2025/11/14
On this episode of EMBARGOED!, host Tim O'Toole is joined by Matteson Ellis (Latin America Practice Lead at Miller & Chevalier) discuss all the sanctions news from Latin America, with a focus on recent developments in Mexico.
Roadmap:
Introduction, Matt goes to Mexico
Foreign Terrorist Organizations (FTOs) and LatAm
Mexico, FTOs, and FinCEN orders
What's happening on the ground
The rest of LatAm
Looking into the crystal ball
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Thanks to Matt Ellis for joining us: https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/matteson-ellis
Questions? Contact us at [email protected].
EMBARGOED! is not intended and cannot be relied on as legal advice; the content only reflects the thoughts and opinions of its hosts. EMBARGOED! is intelligent talk about sanctions, export controls, and all things international trade for trade nerds and normal human beings alike. Each episode will feature deep thoughts and hot takes about the latest headline-grabbing developments in this area of the law, as well as some below-the-radar items to keep an eye on. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts for new episodes so you don't miss out!
Semiconductor Export Controls (Part 2): AI, SME, and the BIS 50% Rule | EMBARGOED! Episode 88
2025/11/07
On this episode of EMBARGOED!, host Tim O'Toole, Miller & Chevalier Counsel Melissa Burgess and Collmann Griffin, and guest Chris Chamberlain of Morrison & Foerster continue their discussion of AI chip-related export controls, musing about Infrastructure-as-a-Service (IaaS) considerations, semiconductor manufacturing equipment (SME), and the much-anticipated BIS release of a 50 Percent Rule for the Entity List.
Roadmap:
May 13, 2025, BIS Policy Statement on training AI models
Controls on SME and balancing foreign policy, national security, and other reasons for control under the EAR
Not reasons for control: Economic and other factors BIS does not consider determinative when assessing controls
Pros and cons of BIS having an OFAC-style 50 Percent Rule for the Entity List
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Thanks to our guests for joining us:
Chris Chamberlain: https://www.mofo.com/people/chris-chamberlain
Melissa Burgess: https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/melissa-burgess
Collmann Griffin: https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/collmann-griffin
Questions? Contact us at [email protected].
EMBARGOED! is not intended and cannot be relied on as legal advice; the content only reflects the thoughts and opinions of its hosts. EMBARGOED! is intelligent talk about sanctions, export controls, and all things international trade for trade nerds and normal human beings alike. Each episode will feature deep thoughts and hot takes about the latest headline-grabbing developments in this area of the law, as well as some below-the-radar items to keep an eye on. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts for new episodes so you don't miss out!
Semiconductor Export Controls (Part 1): AI Chips and the "Secret Entity List" | EMBARGOED! Episode 87
2025/10/30
On this episode of EMBARGOED!, host Tim O'Toole is joined by Miller & Chevalier Counsel Melissa Burgess and Collmann Griffin, and guest Chris Chamberlain of Morrison & Foerster to review the evolution of export controls on AI chips from October 2022 to the present. The discussion explores the variety of tools BIS has employed as it wrestles with tailoring controls, the value of BIS "is informed" letters, and chip diversion.
Roadmap:
The October 7 IFR and a brief tour of subsequent changes through May 2025
Identifying a problem versus tailoring controls: Troubleshooting how to restrict access to the most advanced compute resources and the tools necessary to manufacture them
Assessing the benefits to both BIS and industry of "is informed" letters
Predictions for the next iteration of the AI Diffusion Rule
A diversion into the problem of diversion: Red flags and tactics identified in the wild
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Thanks to our guests for joining us:
Chris Chamberlain: https://www.mofo.com/people/chris-chamberlain
Melissa Burgess: https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/melissa-burgess
Collmann Griffin: https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/collmann-griffin
Questions? Contact us at [email protected].
EMBARGOED! is not intended and cannot be relied on as legal advice; the content only reflects the thoughts and opinions of its hosts. EMBARGOED! is intelligent talk about sanctions, export controls, and all things international trade for trade nerds and normal human beings alike. Each episode will feature deep thoughts and hot takes about the latest headline-grabbing developments in this area of the law, as well as some below-the-radar items to keep an eye on. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts for new episodes so you don't miss out!
EU Sanctions for American Lawyers | Episode 86
2025/10/16
Host Tim O'Toole discusses the latest EU sanctions on Russia with returning guests Collmann Griffin (Miller & Chevalier) and Dr. Tobias Ackermann (BLOMSTEIN). They focus on EU sanctions on Russia imposed that may be stricter than or conflict with their U.S. counterparts.
Roadmap:
Logistics of the sanctions
Imports and purchase - aluminum and Russian petroleum
Software
Finance and crypto
"Best efforts" - EU operators that own or control non-EU entities, including U.S. companies with EU-based subsidiaries, are required to use “best efforts” to ensure that those entities do not undermine EU sanctions against Russia and Belarus
"No Russia" and "No Belarus" clauses
Future measures
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Thanks to our guests for joining us:
Collmann Griffin: https://www.millerchevalier.com/professional/collmann-griffin
Dr. Tobias Ackermann: https://www.blomstein.com/en/team/dr-tobias-ackermann
Questions? Contact us at [email protected].
EMBARGOED! is not intended and cannot be relied on as legal advice; the content only reflects the thoughts and opinions of its hosts. EMBARGOED! is intelligent talk about sanctions, export controls, and all things international trade for trade nerds and normal human beings alike. Each episode will feature deep thoughts and hot takes about the latest headline-grabbing developments in this area of the law, as well as some below-the-radar items to keep an eye on. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts for new episodes so you don't miss out!
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Amiloooo 2021/07/08
One of the best sanctions podcast out there
There are several sanctions/export control sanctions podcasts. This one is one of my favorite ones.
tff6;5;!!#\}*~ 2021/07/01
Great podcast
Thank you for helping crystallize complex topics in an ever-changing compliance landscape.
Vigrdsafhvds 2020/10/27
A podcast for the workday!
As a newbie export control practitioner and long time podcast enthusiast, the intersection of export control knowledge and updates in a podcast is so ...
Sanctions Practitioner 2020/10/20
Breezy discussions about export controls and sanctions
Provides a high-level overview of US sanctions and export control developments in a breezy/informal way. But, both speakers are sometimes imprecise i...
billstacks73 2020/04/24
Lightning round! (Pew pew pew)
Awesome show, Brian and Tim are the best and bring incredibly intelligent takes on the topics at hand
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