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Living Off Rentals

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Kirby Atwell
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Date created
2020/02/09
Latest episode
2026/10/21
Average duration
49 min.
Release period
7 days

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We believe that a high quality rental property is the best investment a person can make. This podcast equips listeners to build a rental portfolio of their own. Each week host, Kirby Atwell, interviews someone who is living off rentals and identifies best practices, advice, and potential investing pitfalls to avoid!

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#349 - How to Get Double the Income from a Property by Renting Rooms Individually - Ryan Chaw
2026/10/21
Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is someone who found a profitable niche right next to college campuses. Ryan Chaw is a real estate investor who specializes in student housing and renting by the room. He started buying properties on the side while working full time as a pharmacist, inspired by the rentals his grandfather used to build generational wealth for their family. Today he helps busy professionals buy their first cash-flowing student rental. Listen as he shares the $30,000 lesson from his first property and how one duplex rented to 12 college baseball players brings in $7,360 a month. He also explains how he picks the right houses near campus and screens tenants so shared homes run smoothly. Enjoy the show! Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing Ryan Chaw and his real estate journey [02:42] Getting into real estate investing as a young pharmacist [04:39] Ryan's first rental property and the lessons he learned [05:39] Finding better tenants by targeting graduate students [06:44] Losing over $30,000 on his first property [09:55] How Ryan worked out a deal with his dad after the unexpected repairs [10:40] The three things you need to get right with student housing [11:47] B.I.G. method for finding the right property [13:49] Structuring student leases [15:54] The ideal bathroom-to-tenant ratio [17:13] Converting existing space into additional bedrooms [18:51] Managing neighbors and student housing complaints [20:15] The three-strike policy for head tenants [24:05] Ryan's cash flow targets and the 2% rule [25:42] The PRIME method for finding high-quality tenants [29:56] Ryan's real estate investing community works [31:53] Outro Guest Links: Website: https://www.newbierealestateinvesting.com/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ryanchaw1  Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals  Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast  Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/  Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals  Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call
#348 - Going From 13 Deployments to Never Missing a Family Dinner Through Real Estate - Keith Gillispie
2026/10/14
Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is someone who went from missing his kids' childhood overseas as an active-duty Marine to building a real estate empire that lets him be home with his family every day. Keith Gillispie is a Marine Corps veteran and the founder of REI Automated. He served eight years on active duty, deploying overseas 13 times, before leaving in 2020 to build his business full time. He is a serial entrepreneur who has invested in 34 states and raised over $10 million in private capital. Listen as he shares the moments that made him walk away from a Marine career, how he built his business in one-hour lunch breaks while still serving, and how he scaled from a few local deals to operating in markets across the country. Enjoy the show! Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing Keith Gillispie and his real estate background [02:08] How Keith first became interested in real estate while serving in the Marines [04:42] Coming home to children who didn't recognize him [06:19] Real estate became Keith's vehicle out [08:08] Why being a father became more important than being a good Marine [09:36] The biggest lessons Keith took from the Marines [14:20] Buying and flipping his first house in Stafford, Virginia [18:36] Growing from three deals to nine deals while keeping the same marketing budget [19:41] Finding the "Goldilocks zone" for real estate investing [22:19] Building six software companies under REI Automated [23:12] Focusing primarily on single-family properties [26:58] Why finding a proactive property manager can be difficult [28:16] The three pillars of deal execution [28:26] Pillar one: education [30:05] Pillar two: systems/software [33:44] Pillar three: coaching [37:51] How much of real estate investing can actually be automated [40:45] Learn more about REI Automated [41:27] Connect with Keith Gillispie [42:03] Outro Guest Links: Website: https://www.reiautomated.io/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/keithg_rei/  Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals  Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast  Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/  Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals  Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call
#347 - How to Find Off-Market Real Estate Deals - Bryan Driscoll
2026/10/07
Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is Bryan Driscoll, owner of Motivated Leads, a company that helps real estate investors connect with motivated off-market sellers through various marketing strategies. Bryan shares his own experience as a real estate investor, from buying his first $33,000 property to building a rental portfolio. Listen as Bryan explains how to find motivated sellers, when to start paying for leads, why having multiple ways to help sellers matters, and how staying focused can simplify the real estate investing process. Enjoy the show! Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing Bryan Driscoll and his background [02:37] Transition from freelancing on Upwork to starting Motivated Leads [03:45] Learning marketing and building a general agency [04:59] Buying his first $33,000 investment property [06:49] How Motivated Leads influenced Bryan's real estate investing [08:29] The idea behind "gold-driven depression" [10:02] Planting seeds for his future self through real estate [12:24] Why Bryan focuses on one zip code [13:48] How to find your first off-market deal [18:23] Using bandit signs to find highly targeted leads [19:23] Using a CRM to track leads and follow up [21:58] Two ways to market on Facebook [23:01] The special housing category on Facebook explained [25:35] Generating leads nationally and passing them to local investors [27:22] Real estate leads are still a numbers game [27:56] Dispositions and novations explained [29:58] Understanding lead volume and the cost of leads [32:30] Common mistakes new investors make with off-market marketing [34:19] Building the process around yourself before building a team [36:06] Balancing a multi-million dollar business, real estate, family, and hobbies [38:53] The story behind the Goodness Game [45:08] Realizing that small things can make a difference [47:22] Using a scorecard to measure effort, impact, and how you feel afterward [49:49] Outro Guest Links: Motivated Leads Website: motivatedleads.com  The Goodness Game: goodnessgame.com  Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals  Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast  Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/  Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals  Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call
#346 - Quadruple Your Capacity - How to Hire a Virtual Team Member For Your Airbnb Business - Maria Laoang
2026/09/30
Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is Maria Laoang, our Airbnb Manager who's been overseeing the day-to-day operations for my short-term rental business, Dune Dwellings, for the past two years. Maria is a virtual assistant (VA) from the Philippines who manages our team of 3 full-time customer service team members. Together, they run the day-to-day operations of our Airbnb business.  Listen as she shares how her background in customer service led her to Airbnb management, her responsibilities, and what it means to hire for ownership rather than tasks. She also gets into what onboarding and training VAs look like in practice, how something as simple as a daily Slack recap can keep a whole team on the same page, and just how many moving pieces a short-term rental operation actually juggles, from guest services and cleaning to maintenance, vendors, systems, processes, and more. If you're looking to scale up your Airbnb operations with a virtual team, this one's for you! Enjoy the show! Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing Maria Laoang and her role as virtual rental manager [04:21] Maria's background in customer service and training [07:30] Responsibilities as a virtual short-term rental manager [08:18] Improving systems, SOPs and processes [10:28] The difference between a team member and a manager [13:28] How Maria found the job opportunity [15:15] Why clearly defining the role matters when hiring [19:17] The right time to hire a virtual team member [21:19] Language and communication in the Philippines [26:41] Building the onboarding and training process [31:37] Using Slack as the day-to-day communication hub [34:16] Advice for rental property owners thinking about hiring virtually [35:25] Being ready to delegate and build systems [37:54] Rewarding your team as owners [39:52] Outro Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals  Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast  Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/  Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals  Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call
#345 - How to Organize a Real Estate Portfolio and All Your Tools Into One System - Dustin Heiner
2026/09/23
Joining us in this episode of Living Off Rentals is Dustin Heiner, a real estate investor behind several podcasts, including Master Passive Income, and the man behind Income Builder - a new tool that lets investors manage all their real estate tools in one place. Dustin started investing in long-term rentals in 2006 after a wake-up call at his government job. Since then, he has built systems around his portfolio and created Income Builder, a business system designed to help investors analyze properties, manage their portfolio, organize documents, and track their progress toward financial freedom. Listen as he explains why investors need to think like business owners, how to keep everything in one place, and how AI can help investors make better decisions and build systems. Enjoy the show! Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing Dustin Heiner and his real estate background [03:42] Starting with long-term rentals in 2006 [04:38] Don't be an investor, be an income builder and business owner [05:29] Why Dustin focuses on systems and processes [07:26] The story behind Income Builder [09:46] Investors need a complete business system [11:03] Replacing multiple tools with one system [15:38] Investors should organize everything from the beginning [17:26] Getting started with Income Builder for free [20:33] Tracking your financial freedom goal [23:28] Building an AI investor coach [24:57] How AI could impact real estate investing [28:18] Nothing can replace mentors and community for real estate investors [31:07] Learning from other people's mistakes [32:44] Appreciation is icing on the cake [37:30] The importance of community and surrounding yourself with investors [43:04] 50% off the first month of Income Builder [44:57] Outro Guest Links: Website: https://incomebuilder.io/  Get 50% off the first month of Income Builder.  Visit https://livingoffrentals.com/incomebuilder and use the promo code KIRBY. Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals  Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast  Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/  Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals  Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call
#344 - Retiring From Firefighting Through Short-Term Rentals in Hawaii - Mike & Caroline Neubauer
2026/09/16
In this episode of Living Off Rentals, Mike and Caroline Neubauer of the Our Family Invests podcast join us to share how they built financial freedom through real estate investing and short-term rentals in Maui. Starting with an ADU on their primary home, they eventually built a short-term rental business that allowed Mike to leave the fire department. Along the way, they learned some hard lessons about financing, renovations, cash flow, and building systems. Listen as Mike and Caroline share how they got started, the challenges they faced with their first short-term rental, the impacts of COVID and the Maui fire, and how having a clear family goal helped them keep moving forward. Enjoy the show! Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing Mike and Caroline Neubauer [03:18] Building financial freedom in a really expensive market [07:52] Building an ADU on their primary residence [13:58] From being a firefighter to discovering short-term rentals in Maui [23:00] The different path to financial freedom [24:20] The lessons learned from landlording short-term rentals [26:01] Finding and purchasing their first short-term rental [29:30] How COVID affected their real estate operations [31:09] Pivoting their short-term rentals during COVID [33:36] Investing remotely and funding new properties [40:44] Deciding when to leave the fire department [46:18] How their real estate goals have changed [48:18] Moving toward more passive investments [53:16] Choosing properties based on location and lifestyle [55:51] Mike's experience with the Maui fires [01:00:59] The impact of the Lahaina fire [01:03:06] Mike and Caroline's advice for those starting in real estate investing [01:04:20] Connect with Mike and Caroline Neubauer [01:05:13] Outro Guest Links:  Website: https://ourfamilyinvests.com/  Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals  Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast  Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/  Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals  Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call
#343 - How to Run a Short-Term Rental Business With Your Spouse (and Make It Work) - Kirby & Taryn Atwell
2026/09/09
On this very special episode of the Living Off Rentals podcast, I am joined by my wife Taryn Atwell, who is also my business partner and the designer behind all our short-term rental properties.  In this episode, we talk about how we started with a short-term rental in our basement and gradually grew the business by leaning into their different strengths. I focus more on the numbers and property decisions, while Taryn handles design, guest experience, and communication. We also talk about tips on how to get your spouse on board with real estate investing, dividing responsibilities, setting goals around the lifestyle you want, and handling the unexpected challenges of running short-term rentals.  Enjoy the show! Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing Kirby and Taryn Atwell and their background [02:53] Taryn's background and how she got into designing their rentals [04:20] Starting with a short-term rental in their basement [06:44] The mistakes they made along the way [08:13] What it's like being married to an entrepreneur [10:46] How to get your spouse on board with real estate investing [14:25] The pressure of being the entrepreneur in the relationship [15:48] How couples can divide responsibilities and make decisions together [17:09] How their goals have changed over the years [21:24] Starting with your ideal day and working backward [25:33] Handling difficult guests and unexpected problems [27:20] Dealing with unexpected wins and losses [28:28] Negative guest experiences stick with you [32:24] Best way to maintain a strong marriage [36:53] Staying aligned on priorities and long-term goals as a couple [39:00] Getting kids involved in the family business [43:19] The most rewarding parts of the real estate lifestyle [45:33] The trade-offs of working and living together [49:03] Using challenges to create repeat guests and long-term business [53:37] Outro Guest Links: Dune Dwellings: https://www.dunedwellings.com  Kirby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kirbyatwell/  Taryn's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tarynlee85/  Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals  Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast  Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/  Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals    Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call
#342 - Scaling to 38 Units and Retiring at 27 After Building $10K in Passive Income - Rachel Richards
2026/09/02
Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is someone who went from one duplex to 38 rental units in just two years — and retired from her full-time job before turning 30. Rachel Richards is a real estate investor and author of Money Honey and Passive Income, Aggressive Retirement. She built her portfolio using a rent-by-the-room strategy that generated far more cash flow than traditional rentals, and by 2022 had grown her passive income to $20,000 a month. Listen as she shares how she scaled from one duplex to 38 units, why she focused on cash flow instead of counting doors, and how a $10,000 monthly income goal gave her the freedom to walk away from her job. She also opens up about turning her Denver home into a 4-unit house hack she now lives in for free, getting burned by contractors along the way, and the hard lesson from her divorce that changed how she thinks about protecting what you build — including why she now recommends a prenup. Enjoy the show! Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing Rachel Richards and her background [02:20] Why Rachel wanted to pursue financial freedom [05:38] How Rachel scaled to 38 units in just a few years [07:52] Reinvesting cash flow to keep growing [09:01] How pad split type of properties increased her cash flow [11:54] Challenges in tenants sharing common spaces [14:16] Finding her first off-market deal [17:26] How to stand out in the MLS competition [18:24] Cash flow number vs number of doors [21:21] Reaching the number and leaving her job [25:16] Rachel's books and teaching others about financial freedom [26:40] Lessons she learned from dealing with tenants, property managers and contractors [28:14] Finding the right market [31:27] Why you still need to manage the manager [34:48] Rachel's $750,000 Denver house hack [39:29] Working with women investing with a spouse [42:24] Managing risk in marriage and real estate [44:24] Protecting businesses and assets built during marriage [45:55] Connect with Rachel Richards [46:34] Outro Guest Links: Website: https://moneyhoneyrachel.com/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/moneyhoneyrachel/  Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals  Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast  Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/  Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals    Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call
#341 - Overcoming the Fear of Raising Private Money as a New Investor - Amy Mahjoory
2026/08/26
Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is a real estate investor and private-money expert who has taught hundreds of investors how to raise millions of dollars for their deals. Amy Mahjoory started raising private money when she was a new investor flipping houses in Chicago. Listen as she breaks down how new investors can overcome the fear of raising private capital, build relationships with potential lenders, and create a simple process to get deals funded. She also shares what to do when a deal doesn't go as planned and why communication with your lenders is so important. Enjoy the show! Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing Amy Mahjoory and her background [03:06] Becoming one of the leading experts on raising private money [05:11] What is private money? [06:33] Using private money as gap funding [07:24] Using private money on different types of real estate deals [10:35] Amy's step-by-step process for raising private money [11:35] Four-second power pitch [13:04] The biggest mistake real estate investors make [16:52] Getting into the actual details of the deal [20:54] How long to ask for private money [25:17] The basic documents you need when working with private lenders [27:11] Stay in touch with potential lenders [30:58] Screening the ideal type of private lender [35:06] The minimum investment amount [36:20] Examples of investors who successfully raised private capital [44:20] Amy's RPM Masterclass [46:17] Connect with Amy Mahjoory [46:40] Outro Guest Links: Website: https://amymahjoory.com/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amymahjoory/  Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals  Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast  Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/  Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals    Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call
#340 - Scaling to 36 Airbnbs Using This ROI-First Design Strategy - Bri West
2026/08/19
In this episode of Living Off Rentals, we are joined by Bri West, founder of Somerled Designs and a real estate investor with 36 short-term rental properties of her own. Bri started investing in short-term rentals in 2020 and used her background in marketing to approach design from a different angle. Instead of designing a property based on personal preferences, she focuses on the target guest, the market, and the return on investment (ROI). Listen as Bri explains how she uses data to choose amenities, set design budgets, and create short-term rentals that stand out. Enjoy the show! Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing Bri West and her background [02:47] How Bri got started in short-term rentals and Somerled [05:24] Using strategy and marketing before design [07:25] Using data to build an ROI-focused design strategy [09:39] Provide experience to charge premium rates [11:56] Bri's strategy for market selection [14:37] How Somerled is different from a typical design firm [17:57] The amenity strategy explained [21:14] Creating unique amenities for the target guest [25:40] Bri's short-term rental design budget rule of thumb [29:19] When to start working with the client [33:42] Changing amenities and increasing competition [36:40] No-brainer amenities for short-term rentals [42:11] Connect with Bri West [43:07] Outro Guest Links: Website:  https://www.somerleddesigns.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bri-west-2a7a93288/  Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals  Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast  Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/  Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals  Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call
#339 - How to Make Your STR More Accessible (and More Profitable) - Lorraine Woodward
2026/08/12
Joining us in this episode of Living Off Rentals is someone who is helping make travel easier for people with disabilities while showing short-term rental owners how accessibility can also be a smart business decision. Lorraine Woodward is the CEO and founder of Becoming RentABLE, a platform that helps travelers find accessible short-term rentals across the United States. Listen as she shares practical ways property owners can make their rentals more accessible without major renovations, simple improvements that can make a big difference for guests, and why accessible rentals are in high demand and very profitable. Enjoy the show! Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing Lorraine Woodward and her background [02:25] Starting a listing platform for accessible short-term rental properties [08:20] What is considered wheelchair accessible in the short-term rental industry? [09:10] Accessibility means more than just wheelchair access [12:03] Simple updates that make a rental more accessible for guests [16:38] The best accessibility improvements to make during a renovation [23:29] Accessible short-term rentals are an underserved market [26:27] The business benefits of investing in accessibility [29:14] The growing demand for accessible vacation rentals [31:55] Becoming RentAble as one source shop for accessible short-term rentals [36:09] Ideal locations for accessible rentals [47:31] Lorraine's recommendations for investors building an accessible rental today [49:31] A powerful story about how an accessible rental gave a family precious time together [51:22] Connect with Lorraine Woodward [51:43] Outro Guest Links: Website: https://www.becomingrentable.com/  Email: [email protected]  Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals  Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast  Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/  Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals  Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call
#338 - Scaling to 6 Short-Term Rentals in 13 Months Using Every Financing Trick in the Book - Joanna N
2026/08/05
Joining us in this episode of Living Off Rentals is a real estate investor who scaled from zero to six short-term rental properties (very soon to be 7) in just 13 months by using nearly every financing strategy available, from DSCR loans, to HELOCs, to a self-directed IRA. Joanna N is the co-owner of One Life Getaways and a member of my STR Blueprint program.  Before real estate, she built a career as a chiropractor, then pivoted through sales, sales training, leadership development, and recruiting — a path she once saw as a string of failures, but now credits as the foundation for how she successfully runs her STR business today. Listen as Joanna shares the financing strategies that helped her get started, buying the right property, building a team, and the practical advice she has for anyone looking to invest in short-term rentals. Enjoy the show! Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing Joanna N. and her background [02:57] How she got started with short-term rentals [04:55] The benefits of short-term rentals  [06:51] Picking the right market [10:21] Assessing your best place to buy property [11:44] Confidence of investing remotely [14:31] Working with a listing agent [15:53] The metrics Joanna use in selecting a property [23:25] Managing multiple short-term rentals while continuing to grow [26:39] Creating a team from scratch [35:18] How to balance conflicting ideas in your team [40:08] The different financing deals Joanna use [45:58] Building confidence in your team and lenders [54:21] Doing house tours on all her properties [57:30] Connect with Joanna N. [58:09] Outro Guest Links: Airbnb: https://www.airbnb.com/users/profile/1526349716038260752  Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals  Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast  Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/  Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call
#337 - Buying Freedom as a Green Beret With a $60M Real Estate Portfolio - Sterling Seizert
2026/07/29
Joining us in this episode of Living Off Rentals is someone who has built an incredible real estate portfolio while serving as a Green Beret in the U.S. Army. Sterling Seizert is a real estate investor, entrepreneur, and the author of Buy Your Freedom. From balancing military service, deployments, and training, he built a $60 million self-storage portfolio and created a path to financial freedom through disciplined investing. Listen as Sterling shares how he got started in real estate, why self-storage became his investment of choice, and the mindset that helped him build wealth while serving his country. Enjoy the show! Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing Sterling Seizert and his background [02:21] Investing in self-storage while on active duty [07:30] Mid- to short-term rental play [10:48] Structure can make almost any deal work [13:54] Finding time in real estate between deployments, training exercises [17:32] How compounding works in real estate investing [19:30] Business plan for the deal vs what actually plays out [21:23] The four drivers of appreciation [23:50] Partnership structure problem [27:11] The five stages of income and how income works [35:07] You can be in multiple stages of income [39:43] How does the freedom matrix work [48:35] The accumulation trap [51:36] Using the value loop [57:39] Understanding your market and market dynamics [58:31] What would Sterling have done differently in the past [01:02:28] Connect with Sterling Seizert and buy his book [01:04:41] Outro Guest Links: Website: https://www.sterlingseizert.com/  Buy Your Freedom Book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0H2NSLJVZ  Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals  Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast  Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/  Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals  Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call
#336 - The Financial Systems Every Real Estate Investor Needs - David Richter
2026/07/22
In this episode of Living Off Rentals, we are joined by the CEO of Simple CFO and the author of "Profit First for Real Estate Investing." David Richter returns to the show to explain why so many real estate investors struggle with cash flow, even as their businesses grow. Listen as he explains how the Profit First system helps investors gain financial clarity, reduce stress, and build a business that supports the life they actually want. You'll also learn practical strategies for managing cash flow and making smarter financial decisions as your business grows. Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing David Richter and his background [03:42] His background in real estate [07:20] Understanding the Profit First system and how it works [09:18] The actual Profit First setup [11:22] The five core bank accounts every real estate business should have [12:57] First account: Income account [13:10] Profit Account, Owner's Comp Account, and Tax Account [14:22] What is an OpEx Account? [19:30] Weekly, monthly, and quarterly habits for managing cash flow [26:28] The four stages of becoming a successful business owner [34:17] What a fractional CFO does [36:33] How a fractional CFO lays the financial foundation [41:25] The habits that separate successful business owners from those who struggle [46:48] Systems matter more than hustle for long-term success [47:45] Profit First is not just a system but a tool for your business [49:47] Connect with David Richter [51:28] Outro Guest Links: Website: https://simplecfo.com/gift  Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals  Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast  Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/  Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals  Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call
#335 - Retiring Early with 4 STRs Using the Path of Progress Strategy - Sandy Lee
2026/07/15
In this episode of Living Off Rentals, we are joined by someone with nearly 30 years of experience in the engineering and construction industry. Sandy Lee is a former engineer and construction professional who retired early by building a portfolio of just four short-term rental properties. She discovered short-term rentals, developed what she calls the "Path of Progress" strategy, and created enough passive income to leave her full-time job. Listen as Sandy shares how she transitioned out of her corporate career, the lessons she's learned as a short-term rental investor, and why keeping your investing strategy simple can lead to financial freedom. Enjoy the show! Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing Sandy Lee and her background [02:40] Getting into short-term rental investment [04:24] Buying her first short-term rental property [06:41] What gave Sandy the confidence to purchase a big rental investment [10:35] Looking beyond today's cash flow when buying properties [12:20] Determining if a property is going to appreciate in cash flow [18:29] Importance of hiring a revenue manager [20:24] Hospitality is the most important part of the business [21:55] How does she get high reviews [24:26] Managing her properties in four different locations [26:12] How technology helps simplify property management [29:15] The milestone that gave Sandy the confidence to leave her full-time career [31:14] What separates people who have more success from those who struggle [32:41] The importance of building the right tech stack from day one [33:46] Software tools Sandy recommends for managing short-term rentals [35:49] Sandy shares details about her upcoming book, Building Joy [36:56] Connect with Sandy Lee [38:11] Outro Guest Links: Website: https://www.strjumpstart.com/  Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals  Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast  Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/  Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals  Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals  Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call

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We_Chef 2026/08/05
My go to resource for STR
Kirby has an amazing ability to break down super complex aspects of the short and medium term rentals business. I look forward to each episode!
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Relatable and Practical Real Estate
I really enjoy this podcast because it features real students and investors who are actually in the trenches — not just people who are light years ahe...
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So many great tips!
There is a wealth of knowledge to be had in this podcast! If you’re in real estate you need to subscribe and listen to all of the interviews!
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Kirby shows the reality of what is truly possible!
I have listened to many episodes and love how Kirby is so down to earth and loves to share to help others. He has harnessed the power of finding a gre...
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Great podcast for real estate investors
I really enjoy this podcast, Kirby has great guests and he shares very valuable information and success stories. Kirby gives away so much value for fr...
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Kirby and the Living Off Rentals Podcast is such a great source of knowledge and motivation, as well as a great compilation of investor stories that c...
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