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Guest Angelyn McMurray - HCP 296 On this episode of the HCP. Drew and Larry welcome Angelyn McMurray, director of We Are Free, a ministry to women coming out of Sex Trafficking. This conversation focuses on how the church should consider this issue and the relational aspects of people in need dealing with it. It's happening in and around our churches, and we must be ready to meet people who are affected by it.  Find more information at: wearefree.us You can email us at [email protected] or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com or find us on FaceBook!

They're Talking (p. 2) - HCP 319 On this episode Larry, Drew and Heidi discuss how to help create an atmosphere of grace in these situations. This is a follow up conversation to P. 1.  You can email us at [email protected] or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com or find us on FaceBook!

They're Talking p. 1 - HCP 318 On this episode of the HCP - Larry, Drew and Heidi discuss how to respond when a church member say's "People are talking about you or about something you don't know about". As a church leader, your throat gets tight and you start to worry about what is being said. How do you respond to this kind of comment or situation?  You can email us at [email protected] or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com or find us on FaceBook!

Family of Origin p. 2 - HCP 317 On this episode of the HCP, Larry, Drew and Heidi discuss this topic of Family Origin at a deeper level. Our family of origin effects every area of our lives and we will lead from that place by default if we don't fully understand the need to surrender to Christ's leadership and sanctification process in our hearts.  *Heidi's connection is lost later in this episode.  You can email us at [email protected] or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com or find us on FaceBook!

Guest Charles Johnson - HCP 316 On this episode, Larry, Drew and Heidi welcome Pastor Charles Johnson, Pastor of Rosewood Baptist Church in Gilmer, TX. He's pastored there for 42 years and worked both as a full-time and bi-vocational pastor. He will be a featured presenter at the ReCharge Retreat Sept. 28-30 at Great Wolf Lodge in Grapevine, TX.  Links for podcast: ReCharge Leadership Retreat deadline 8/28,  http://bmaamerica.org/recharge  Books Steve mentioned in the Podcast: You can email us at [email protected] or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com or find us on FaceBook!

Guest Steve Crawley - HCP 315 On this episode of the HCP, Larry, Heidi and Drew welcome Dr. Steve Crawley to the podcast. Steve currently serves as the CFO for Lifeword.Org and the Executive Director for BMA Financial. Steve has a PhD in Leadership and has created a discipleship program for men called MD5. Steve will also be speaking at ReCharge 2026.  [email protected] Links for podcast: ReCharge Leadership Retreat deadline 8/28,  http://bmaamerica.org/recharge  Books Steve mentioned in the Podcast: Spiritual Leadership, Blackaby https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Leadership-Moving-Revised-Expanded/dp/1433669188/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2972NF0V00NLA&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Ui7liaf1gl5epJwyM9OxBODJz6apAdyRGrPRyw4uGG-Vr7EOIt_LLm3ay9h5FO0Z4ClxS9n6y8rGYSZs_l9REOIXJz2NMhjY85E_K-DKl2SSaXkM6e1h34DHWNblOYSY0rSpQn5B8Y3_5KSPK7zi-cPOtVBcd2PlS6cSsP-FB6-dF5TF7xdhvvAe-D0SQ-R4wzp6-jK87DMetew-oqQLwv86nEAkrElzBylWFZwdVoU.0JGdtreKyLbbPr_QqhoS7ZiI_vgtavzXfJNvo7u57Ek&dib_tag=se&keywords=spiritual+leadership+blackaby&qid=1787351950&sprefix=Spiritual+leader%2Caps%2C173&sr=8-1 Reframing Organizations, Bolman and Deal https://www.amazon.com/Reframing-Organizations-Artistry-Choice-Leadership/dp/1394341156/ref=sr_1_1?crid=BF75Y05DB0UI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.PgjQ37eUel8Xo11FRb5u_H8O1oqwOHGLw-wA2oUcBXFI58SInSZgaRaB2593BClU9pVG7gRxYoLQiKscdPLRwlmd3Kf-0v62NuBcqbb_WmddGuLA-WaRA51PjxViFeKRwgie83mCJor44wD7gnbgN6rvYcY27Z_3U6Gt6D6VRNlNDHlD_khcg32Rr1e2fFkpk4ER3MpHyvG-j-kdOdX1XiDS2jQGBWXzl2uR9W_TKQE.o-sXrHWvRLbm-Zux_Y2xZ0CZ8-cH82y8YdCKhXSo8zQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=reframing+organizations&qid=1787351979&sprefix=reframing+org%2Caps%2C175&sr=8-1 You can email us at [email protected] or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com or find us on FaceBook!

Family Of Origin - HCP 314 On this episode of the HCP Larry, Drew and Heidi discuss the difficult differentiation of understanding our Family Of Origin and how that has shaped our identity and behavior versus how Jesus transforms us and should be shaping who we are even more than our Family of Origin.  Go to link to register for ReCharge 2026 : https://bmaamerica.org/recharge/ Podcast mentioned on this episode: https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/835312/episodes/18815943-friendship-in-grief-daisy-cline-and-ali-lorenz-hcp-292 Resource on Family of Origin Pete Scazerro - Emotionally Healthy Spirituality https://www.amazon.com/Emotionally-Healthy-Spirituality-Impossible-Spiritually/dp/0310348498/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2EVT2Y97X3AB1&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Qp6wzTTnVVpbB66bak0qhj7GtjOKhw9rWpibm8cVaUXYj5yy4j4-WQjoMCL8eB6UpwrqFMkG1cvFJB5hwKcXE4ySPG3xD7CDtkrQHHacJ1PkqEWaWXUYJ-YR10E5FxbUS-GN76m1g2KqKUrsfU7x8mt9zZALD50RzyzKby6eEpBAi2bIZG11Jy4LSWHqgitLjQ55SuYJ0ZWWGFAaFWO0hRgbXgF0E4ehvBDQUwP7g7A.Riu53JXkDTOHBDl9ZG5iw76d3BL9d5ZG5sEAjWAw2ag&dib_tag=se&keywords=emotionally+healthy+spirituality&qid=1786721050&sprefix=emotion%2Caps%2C278&sr=8-1 You can email us at [email protected] or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com or find us on FaceBook!

ReCharge 2026 - HCP 313 On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Heidi discuss the upcoming ReCharge conference. Go to link to register for ReCharge 2026 : https://bmaamerica.org/recharge/ for more details. You can find these podcasts from the discussion today. HCP episode 271 and 272 https://www.buzzsprout.com/835312/episodes/17856340 https://www.buzzsprout.com/835312/episodes/17911303

On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew talk about one of their favorite topics - DISCIPLESHIP! It is the MAIN thing and yet in many ways the church struggles to accomplish it. Why is that and what is the process for moving people towards becoming disciple makers?  Other recent HCP podcasts on this topic include: Dr. David Devries https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/835312/episodes/8739184-hcp-ep-54-multiplication-conversations-with-guests-dr-david-devries-and-dr-john-david-smith Jeff Vandersteldt https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/835312/episodes/14511150-hcp-ep-191-special-guest-jeff-vanderstelt Daniel Im  https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/835312/episodes/7358947-hcp-ep-33-guest-pastor-and-author-daniel-im https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/835312/episodes/15474764-hcp-ep-213-guest-daniel-im You can email us at [email protected] or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com or find us on FaceBook!

Pray Without Ceasing - p2. HCP 311 On this episode of the HCP, Larry, Heidi and Drew continue their conversation on aspects of prayer and today specifically around notes from Bill Elliff about 5 things God wants you to know about prayer and His desire for you to meet with Him.  "Prayer With No Intermission" - Bill Elliff https://www.amazon.com/Prayer-No-Intermission-Unceasing-Graceful/dp/0983116849/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3L5NEHQRZUODX&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1fXrmOVVbrbMctsZ8A8ZTqnMS7W4AMIL3xrjnuU3tThntgMPMA_w9Bta0bNgdUA1bVS6VWX8mRHRucdi_P2g8WMdO8mKL4o4EtdZDuh3vLeojqzIjxfONO5CFo8Q6zZ-1C7boNf5ww69xRV1ZUOiPS_MF2giep5MZNCsU-ILhFr3g2vP95V2tZrMJyCIOKumT5uxm1AfHLAAi0U7JVR7g5CKTbCugJ2Xsmqq-n0C_A0.A15pzB1vP6olRsR8-zDSUZAc0YuBu0sNbhmITUWUIfQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=bill+elliff+books&qid=1785174495&sprefix=bill+elliff%2Caps%2C246&sr=8-4 "Simple Prayer" - Bill Elliff https://www.amazon.com/Simply-Prayer-Joining-Rest-Your/dp/0983116865/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3L5NEHQRZUODX&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1fXrmOVVbrbMctsZ8A8ZTqnMS7W4AMIL3xrjnuU3tThntgMPMA_w9Bta0bNgdUA1bVS6VWX8mRHRucdi_P2g8WMdO8mKL4o4EtdZDuh3vLeojqzIjxfONO5CFo8Q6zZ-1C7boNf5ww69xRV1ZUOiPS_MF2giep5MZNCsU-ILhFr3g2vP95V2tZrMJyCIOKumT5uxm1AfHLAAi0U7JVR7g5CKTbCugJ2Xsmqq-n0C_A0.A15pzB1vP6olRsR8-zDSUZAc0YuBu0sNbhmITUWUIfQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=bill+elliff+books&qid=1785174495&sprefix=bill+elliff%2Caps%2C246&sr=8-3 You can email us at [email protected] or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com or find us on FaceBook!

Guest John Meriweather - HCP 310 On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Heidi welcome John Meriweather whose wife Holly was diagnosed with early onset Alzheimers. John and Holly are using this devastating disease as a ministry platform to help others learn and cope for the glory of God.  You can email us at [email protected] or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com or find us on FaceBook!

Praying Without Ceasing p. 1 - HCP 309 On this episode of the HCP, Larry, Drew and Heidi discuss different aspects of prayer and how we must come with a heart of humility and surrender before the Lord.  You can email us at [email protected] or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com or find us on FaceBook!

On this episode of the HCP, the team continues a conversation that leads into 5 ways to build trust.  You can email us at [email protected] or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com or find us on FaceBook!

On this episode of the HCP, Larry, Heidi and Drew finish the conversation around being intentional to diagnose your own heart, ministry and church for what may be keeping you from all God wants to do in you or your people.  You can email us at [email protected] or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com or find us on FaceBook!

Diagnostics p. 2 - HCP 306 On this podcast the team discusses more aspects of taking a healthy diagnostic within your leadership and ministry. The primary focus was approaching this with humility and prayer because "You don't know what you don't know"! Larry gets fired up when talking about prayer! You can email us at [email protected] or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com or find us on FaceBook!