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324 episodes
Language
EnglishPublisher
Larry Barker & Drew ClineExplicit
No
Date created
2020/02/14
Latest episode
2026/10/27
Average duration
37 min.
Release period
7 days
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The Healthy Church Podcast is an honest conversation about what it means to be a part of a healthy church. There are no perfect churches - because they’re all filled with imperfect people led by imperfect leaders. But by God’s grace we can begin to dialogue about what changes can be made in our lives as leaders, and in the churches we serve, in order to better Love God and His people. For more information and other resources go to HealthyChurchPodcast.Com.
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Guardrails for Leading Well - HCP 324
2026/10/27
Larry and Heidi talk about some alarming recent stats (only 1 in 40 pastors will finish in the ministry). They discuss some guardrails needed to keep going even when disappointments, discouragements, and trials come. Healthy Church Solutions has 10 free short trainings available to resource you and your team. To access, go to: https://healthychurchsolutions.org/self-guided-courses/healthy-church-solutions-training/. Reach out to us at [email protected] if we can pray for you or point you toward a resource that might help you!
Guest Kevin Smith-HCP 323
2026/10/20
Larry and Heidi welcome bi-vocational youth pastor Kevin Smith to the podcast. Listen as he shares his incredible testimony about being an atheist trying to disprove the Bible, to being saved and called to ministry! He is passionate about apologetics and talks about the Defenders class he teaches at his church. Reach out to us at [email protected] with questions or comments!
Guest Nathan Smith - HCP 322
2026/10/13
Join Larry and Heidi as they interview our newest BMA church planter, Nathan Smith, about discipleship-based multiplication and gospel advancement. These are not intricate strategies, but rather a simple biblical process any leader can implement. He shares exciting testimony about what's been happening in Roswell, NM, before the move. Books suggested are 4 Chair Discipling by Dann Spader and Gospelize by Greg Stier. If you'd like to support this new church plant in Elizabeth, CO, or have questions, you can reach Nathan at [email protected].
REPOST- 5 Ways To Build Trust
2026/10/06
On this episode of the HCP, the team discusses 5 ways to build trust as you lead people.
You can email us at [email protected] or
To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast, go to:
http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com
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REPOST with Guest Angelyn McMurray - Trauma and the Church
2026/09/29
Guest Angelyn McMurray - HCP 296
On this episode of the HCP. Drew and Larry welcome Angelyn McMurray, director of We Are Free, a ministry to women coming out of Sex Trafficking. This conversation focuses on how the church should consider this issue and the relational aspects of people in need dealing with it. It's happening in and around our churches, and we must be ready to meet people who are affected by it.
Find more information at:
wearefree.us
You can email us at [email protected] or
To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to:
http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com
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They're Talking (p. 2) - HCP 319
2026/09/22
They're Talking (p. 2) - HCP 319
On this episode Larry, Drew and Heidi discuss how to help create an atmosphere of grace in these situations. This is a follow up conversation to P. 1.
You can email us at [email protected] or
To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to:
http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com
or find us on FaceBook!
They're Talking - HCP 318
2026/09/15
They're Talking p. 1 - HCP 318
On this episode of the HCP - Larry, Drew and Heidi discuss how to respond when a church member say's "People are talking about you or about something you don't know about". As a church leader, your throat gets tight and you start to worry about what is being said. How do you respond to this kind of comment or situation?
You can email us at [email protected] or
To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to:
http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com
or find us on FaceBook!
Family of Origin p. 2 - HCP 317
2026/09/08
Family of Origin p. 2 - HCP 317
On this episode of the HCP, Larry, Drew and Heidi discuss this topic of Family Origin at a deeper level. Our family of origin effects every area of our lives and we will lead from that place by default if we don't fully understand the need to surrender to Christ's leadership and sanctification process in our hearts.
*Heidi's connection is lost later in this episode.
You can email us at [email protected] or
To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to:
http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com
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Guest Charles Johnson - HCP 316
2026/09/01
Guest Charles Johnson - HCP 316
On this episode, Larry, Drew and Heidi welcome Pastor Charles Johnson, Pastor of Rosewood Baptist Church in Gilmer, TX. He's pastored there for 42 years and worked both as a full-time and bi-vocational pastor. He will be a featured presenter at the ReCharge Retreat Sept. 28-30 at Great Wolf Lodge in Grapevine, TX.
Links for podcast: ReCharge Leadership Retreat deadline 8/28,
http://bmaamerica.org/recharge
Books Steve mentioned in the Podcast:
You can email us at [email protected] or
To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to:
http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com
or find us on FaceBook!
Guest Steve Crawley - HCP 315
2026/08/25
Guest Steve Crawley - HCP 315
On this episode of the HCP, Larry, Heidi and Drew welcome Dr. Steve Crawley to the podcast. Steve currently serves as the CFO for Lifeword.Org and the Executive Director for BMA Financial. Steve has a PhD in Leadership and has created a discipleship program for men called MD5. Steve will also be speaking at ReCharge 2026.
[email protected]
Links for podcast: ReCharge Leadership Retreat deadline 8/28,
http://bmaamerica.org/recharge
Books Steve mentioned in the Podcast:
Spiritual Leadership, Blackaby
https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Leadership-Moving-Revised-Expanded/dp/1433669188/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2972NF0V00NLA&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Ui7liaf1gl5epJwyM9OxBODJz6apAdyRGrPRyw4uGG-Vr7EOIt_LLm3ay9h5FO0Z4ClxS9n6y8rGYSZs_l9REOIXJz2NMhjY85E_K-DKl2SSaXkM6e1h34DHWNblOYSY0rSpQn5B8Y3_5KSPK7zi-cPOtVBcd2PlS6cSsP-FB6-dF5TF7xdhvvAe-D0SQ-R4wzp6-jK87DMetew-oqQLwv86nEAkrElzBylWFZwdVoU.0JGdtreKyLbbPr_QqhoS7ZiI_vgtavzXfJNvo7u57Ek&dib_tag=se&keywords=spiritual+leadership+blackaby&qid=1787351950&sprefix=Spiritual+leader%2Caps%2C173&sr=8-1
Reframing Organizations, Bolman and Deal
https://www.amazon.com/Reframing-Organizations-Artistry-Choice-Leadership/dp/1394341156/ref=sr_1_1?crid=BF75Y05DB0UI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.PgjQ37eUel8Xo11FRb5u_H8O1oqwOHGLw-wA2oUcBXFI58SInSZgaRaB2593BClU9pVG7gRxYoLQiKscdPLRwlmd3Kf-0v62NuBcqbb_WmddGuLA-WaRA51PjxViFeKRwgie83mCJor44wD7gnbgN6rvYcY27Z_3U6Gt6D6VRNlNDHlD_khcg32Rr1e2fFkpk4ER3MpHyvG-j-kdOdX1XiDS2jQGBWXzl2uR9W_TKQE.o-sXrHWvRLbm-Zux_Y2xZ0CZ8-cH82y8YdCKhXSo8zQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=reframing+organizations&qid=1787351979&sprefix=reframing+org%2Caps%2C175&sr=8-1
You can email us at [email protected] or
To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to:
http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com
or find us on FaceBook!
Family Of Origin - HCP 314
2026/08/18
Family Of Origin - HCP 314
On this episode of the HCP Larry, Drew and Heidi discuss the difficult differentiation of understanding our Family Of Origin and how that has shaped our identity and behavior versus how Jesus transforms us and should be shaping who we are even more than our Family of Origin.
Go to link to register for ReCharge 2026 : https://bmaamerica.org/recharge/
Podcast mentioned on this episode:
https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/835312/episodes/18815943-friendship-in-grief-daisy-cline-and-ali-lorenz-hcp-292
Resource on Family of Origin
Pete Scazerro - Emotionally Healthy Spirituality
https://www.amazon.com/Emotionally-Healthy-Spirituality-Impossible-Spiritually/dp/0310348498/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2EVT2Y97X3AB1&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Qp6wzTTnVVpbB66bak0qhj7GtjOKhw9rWpibm8cVaUXYj5yy4j4-WQjoMCL8eB6UpwrqFMkG1cvFJB5hwKcXE4ySPG3xD7CDtkrQHHacJ1PkqEWaWXUYJ-YR10E5FxbUS-GN76m1g2KqKUrsfU7x8mt9zZALD50RzyzKby6eEpBAi2bIZG11Jy4LSWHqgitLjQ55SuYJ0ZWWGFAaFWO0hRgbXgF0E4ehvBDQUwP7g7A.Riu53JXkDTOHBDl9ZG5iw76d3BL9d5ZG5sEAjWAw2ag&dib_tag=se&keywords=emotionally+healthy+spirituality&qid=1786721050&sprefix=emotion%2Caps%2C278&sr=8-1
You can email us at [email protected] or
To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to:
http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com
or find us on FaceBook!
ReCharge 2026 - HCP 313
2026/08/12
ReCharge 2026 - HCP 313
On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Heidi discuss the upcoming ReCharge conference.
Go to link to register for ReCharge 2026 : https://bmaamerica.org/recharge/
for more details.
You can find these podcasts from the discussion today.
HCP episode 271 and 272
https://www.buzzsprout.com/835312/episodes/17856340
https://www.buzzsprout.com/835312/episodes/17911303
The Discipleship Process - HCP 312
2026/08/04
On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew talk about one of their favorite topics - DISCIPLESHIP! It is the MAIN thing and yet in many ways the church struggles to accomplish it. Why is that and what is the process for moving people towards becoming disciple makers?
Other recent HCP podcasts on this topic include:
Dr. David Devries
https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/835312/episodes/8739184-hcp-ep-54-multiplication-conversations-with-guests-dr-david-devries-and-dr-john-david-smith
Jeff Vandersteldt
https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/835312/episodes/14511150-hcp-ep-191-special-guest-jeff-vanderstelt
Daniel Im
https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/835312/episodes/7358947-hcp-ep-33-guest-pastor-and-author-daniel-im
https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/835312/episodes/15474764-hcp-ep-213-guest-daniel-im
You can email us at [email protected] or
To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to:
http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com
or find us on FaceBook!
Pray Without Ceasing - p. 2 HCP 311
2026/07/28
Pray Without Ceasing - p2. HCP 311
On this episode of the HCP, Larry, Heidi and Drew continue their conversation on aspects of prayer and today specifically around notes from Bill Elliff about 5 things God wants you to know about prayer and His desire for you to meet with Him.
"Prayer With No Intermission" - Bill Elliff
https://www.amazon.com/Prayer-No-Intermission-Unceasing-Graceful/dp/0983116849/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3L5NEHQRZUODX&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1fXrmOVVbrbMctsZ8A8ZTqnMS7W4AMIL3xrjnuU3tThntgMPMA_w9Bta0bNgdUA1bVS6VWX8mRHRucdi_P2g8WMdO8mKL4o4EtdZDuh3vLeojqzIjxfONO5CFo8Q6zZ-1C7boNf5ww69xRV1ZUOiPS_MF2giep5MZNCsU-ILhFr3g2vP95V2tZrMJyCIOKumT5uxm1AfHLAAi0U7JVR7g5CKTbCugJ2Xsmqq-n0C_A0.A15pzB1vP6olRsR8-zDSUZAc0YuBu0sNbhmITUWUIfQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=bill+elliff+books&qid=1785174495&sprefix=bill+elliff%2Caps%2C246&sr=8-4
"Simple Prayer" - Bill Elliff
https://www.amazon.com/Simply-Prayer-Joining-Rest-Your/dp/0983116865/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3L5NEHQRZUODX&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1fXrmOVVbrbMctsZ8A8ZTqnMS7W4AMIL3xrjnuU3tThntgMPMA_w9Bta0bNgdUA1bVS6VWX8mRHRucdi_P2g8WMdO8mKL4o4EtdZDuh3vLeojqzIjxfONO5CFo8Q6zZ-1C7boNf5ww69xRV1ZUOiPS_MF2giep5MZNCsU-ILhFr3g2vP95V2tZrMJyCIOKumT5uxm1AfHLAAi0U7JVR7g5CKTbCugJ2Xsmqq-n0C_A0.A15pzB1vP6olRsR8-zDSUZAc0YuBu0sNbhmITUWUIfQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=bill+elliff+books&qid=1785174495&sprefix=bill+elliff%2Caps%2C246&sr=8-3
You can email us at [email protected] or
To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to:
http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com
or find us on FaceBook!
Guest John Meriweather - HCP 310
2026/07/21
Guest John Meriweather - HCP 310
On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Heidi welcome John Meriweather whose wife Holly was diagnosed with early onset Alzheimers. John and Holly are using this devastating disease as a ministry platform to help others learn and cope for the glory of God.
You can email us at [email protected] or
To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to:
http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com
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Podcast reviews
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Jnorman1227 2023/08/24
Great content from leaders with humble hearts
I appreciate Drew and Larry’s heart for pastors and churches. Great content and insights in the conversations they have.
Luther1647 2020/06/04
CRT in the BMA?
Just listened to "Racism and the Church." Very disappointed to find these guys buying into the Critical Race Theory mindset. Not good for the BMA or e...
scripturealone 2020/02/27
Excited and encouraged
Just listened to the first episode! So exited for this opportunity to listen and learn helpful tips and the wisdom that both of these men have given t...
PastorDanCarson 2020/02/26
Encouragement and Hope
Drew Cline and Larry Barker bring years of experience and hearts for ministers to the conversation about Healthy Churches.
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