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On this episode of Not Your Fathers Datacenter, Raymond Hawkins sits down with Jerome Soltani, Global Head of Services at Schneider Electric, to explore how predictive maintenance and partnership are transforming data center operations. Jerome Soltani shares his global journey from France to the US, reflecting on his two decades at Schneider, his experiences growing service teams, and the challenges of managing critical infrastructure at ever-increasing scale. The conversation dives deep into the technological shifts shaping the data center industry—especially the move from traditional, reactive maintenance toward predictive, data-driven strategies that leverage AI and advanced connectivity. Jerome Soltani explains how maintaining at a system level, rather than an asset-by-asset approach, is essential for uptime, efficiency, and ultimately customer satisfaction. The discussion also highlights workforce challenges, the importance of training the next generation through initiatives like the Texas State Technical College partnership, and ongoing efforts to drive sustainability and community impact. Through candid insights and real-world examples—including managing more than 1200 power centers across multiple US sites—Raymond Hawkins and Jerome Soltani showcase how collaborative innovation is enabling the data center industry to scale, adapt, and thrive.  Whether you’re on the operations floor or in the boardroom, this episode offers valuable perspectives on the future of digital infrastructure. 00:00 Intro & Welcome04:29 Rising Through the Ranks to SVP09:02 Epic Haleakala Climb Adventure12:14 The Untold Challenges of Liquid Cooling in AI14:16 Embracing Predictive Maintenance Revolution18:24 Predictive Maintenance Revolutionizes Data Centers20:24 Unlocking Massive Opex Savings26:15 Addressing Industry Workforce Crisis29:26 Reno Campus' Game-Changing Donation33:57 Streamlining Systems to Boost Satisfaction36:33 Schneider's Bold Sustainability Mission39:40 Behind-the-Scenes Partnership Secrets

In this episode, Raymond Hawkins, Chief Revenue Officer at Compass Datacenters, is joined by David Porter, Vice President of Electrification and Sustainable Energy Strategy at EPRI—formerly known as the Electric Power Research Institute. With a career spanning mechanical engineering at Duke Energy, stints across the US energy landscape, and over 17 years at EPRI, David Porter brings deep industry insight into the intersection of energy and data infrastructure. Their discussion explores the rapid evolution of data center power demand, shifting from kilowatt to gigawatt requirements within a decade. The conversation unpacks the unique challenges this poses for power utilities, such as mismatched development timelines, grid transmission constraints, and the need for adaptable grid-responsive infrastructure. Key topics include EPRI’s nonprofit, science-based research mission; the rise of grid-interactive data centers; the DC Flex initiative for flexible load management; and the critical impact of load growth on grid affordability and efficiency. The episode offers a detailed look at how collaboration between data centers and utilities can enhance grid resilience and lower costs for everyone. Timestamped Overview00:00 Intro03:25 EPRI's public benefit mission09:50 Data centers and electric transport13:02 Energy demand forecasting for developers15:00 Challenges with data center power constraints17:49 Transmission vs. distribution systems21:45 Improving energy transmission efficiency23:35 Bridging data centers and utilities28:06 Evolution of the Data Center Industry31:42 Explaining the Flex Mosaic framework35:30 Planning for grid capacity challenges38:31 Importance of Frequency in Power Grids41:05 Energy demand and frequency issues45:56 Golfing chat

In this episode, Raymond Hawkins, Chief Customer Officer at Compass Data Centers, sits down with Dan Cook, founder and Managing Director of Solar Stone. Hailing from Cleveland, Ohio, Dan Cook brings a diverse background rooted in commodities and metals trading before moving into utility-scale solar and battery development, overseeing projects totaling approximately 2 gigawatts. The conversation spans the dramatic growth in data center power demand, including how this surge has challenged both generation and transmission infrastructure. Dan Cook provides context from his energy brokerage and commodity experience, discussing supply chain constraints, queue backlogs for new generation assets, and the complexities of interconnection. Key themes include the impact of speculative projects on development timelines, the evolving landscape of long-duration storage technologies, and the role of federal incentives in renewable energy. The discussion also covers PR challenges for data centers, grid-connected versus behind-the-meter solutions, and the nuanced relationship between data center developers, utilities, and end users. Timestamped Overview:00:00 Rising demand for copper mining06:11 Challenges in energy transmission09:50 Challenges with data center power needs11:04 Challenges for Data Center Development16:12 Land strategy for renewable projects18:24 Challenges in grid development collaboration22:14 Rise of renewable energy in data centers25:09 Discussing project site opportunities27:58 Focusing on regional solar projects32:53 Utility procurement and renewable energy trends36:28 Long duration energy storage38:27 Federal tax credits discussion43:33 Discussing solar energy basics

In this episode, Raymond Hawkins, Chief Revenue Officer at Compass Datacenters, sits down with Matt Loszak, co-founder and CEO of Aalo Atomics. Matt Loszak shares his personal journey from growing up with severe asthma in Ontario—an experience that inspired his fascination with nuclear energy after coal plant closures led to both cleaner air and the end of his symptoms. His career spans from nuclear engineering studies to successful tech entrepreneurship, and eventually back to his roots in the energy sector with Aalo Atomics. The discussion explores the current and future challenges of powering rapidly scaling data centers, focusing on the unprecedented demand for clean, scalable electricity. Topics include the limitations of the current grid, the viability of modular and “extra modular” reactor technologies, and the promise of vertically integrated nuclear solutions. Matt Loszak offers deep insights into Aalo’s business model, the economics of on-site power generation, and the transformative potential of fast, factory-built nuclear power for the data center industry. Timestamped Overview00:00 Intro & Matt’s Background03:55 From software to nuclear impact07:16 Engineering Leader in Nuclear Innovation11:16 Nuclear Power The Future Answer16:28 Revolutionizing SMRs Lessons from SpaceX17:19 Vertical integration to solve delays21:15 Smaller plants over gigawatt nuclear24:50 Configurable real-time power solutions28:50 Pipeline vs power grid infrastructure31:37 Energy challenges in industry operations35:27 Nuclear the big picture solution39:56 Optimal small nuclear innovation40:35 Aalo’s customer-focused design approach

In this episode, host Raymond Hawkins, Chief Customer Officer at Compass Datacenters, sits down with Miranda Gardiner, leader of the iMasons Climate Accord. Miranda Gardiner brings a rich international background—having lived and worked across Iowa, Germany, San Francisco, Abu Dhabi, and more—with deep expertise in sustainability, architecture, and green building initiatives. Her journey includes significant work at the U.S. Green Building Council and hands-on involvement with sustainable projects worldwide. The conversation explores the rapidly evolving role of data centers in a world increasingly focused on power demand, decarbonization, and environmental responsibility. Topics span the exponential growth in data center energy needs, nuclear and renewable energy’s place in the power mix, and the critical importance of sustainable materials and supply chains. Raymond and Miranda discuss the collaborative structure of the Climate Accord—including governing bodies and working groups—addressing how the industry is innovating toward measurable climate goals, equipment standards, and new ways to balance digital growth with planetary stewardship. Timestamped Overview00:00 Sustainable Design and Global Impact06:20 Solo hike in Austria09:48 Capturing Energy from Lightning10:49 Fortuitous Career Transition Story13:52 Collaborative Leadership in Decarbonization17:55 Strategic Alliances for Clean Energy21:50 Powering Digital Interactions at Scale23:55 Energy challenges and perceptions29:10 Industry Leaders Drive Climate Action32:07 Building a Greener Future Together33:48 Equipment and Environmental Collaboration38:03 Responsible Digital Infrastructure Insights

In this episode, Raymond Hawkins, host of Not Your Father's Datacenter, sits down with Dr Sai Shivareddy, CEO and founder of Niable. Dr Shivareddy shares his fascinating journey from India, through his academic pursuits in physics and nanomaterials at Cambridge, to founding Niable with a focus on revolutionary battery technology. The discussion centers around the dramatic rise in power density within data centers, the historical shift from lead acid to lithium-ion batteries, and their respective challenges—especially in the face of rapidly spiking AI and GPU workloads. Sai explains Niable’s breakthrough material, enabling batteries to recharge in minutes while maintaining safety and high power density. The pair explore the urgent industry need for new solutions to manage dynamic, unpredictable power loads and introduce Niable’s dynamic response power systems as a novel bridge between supercapacitors and batteries. The episode offers practical insights on how innovative materials science can redefine power management in the next-generation data center. Timestamped Overview00:00 Intro & Dr Shivareddy’s background 04:51 From lab to real world06:38 Data centers growing power demand10:23 Energy Storage Capacitors vs Batteries15:22 UPS vs BBU power comparison17:27 Battery stress at full capacity20:13 GPU power surge trends25:33 Voltage conversion in power systems27:56 Dynamic Power Regulation System30:17 Power System Design and Optimization34:43 Optimizing GPU power efficiency36:06 Power solutions for dynamic workloads

The video is an episode of "Not Your Father's Data Center" hosted by Raymond Hawkins, who is joined by David Liot, CEO and founder of Data Center Hawk, and the company's global leadership team at the PTC conference in Hawaii. Data Center Hawk is a subscription-based platform providing data and analytics on supply, demand, pricing, and trends for over 115 global data center markets on a quarterly basis. The discussion focuses on the challenges and trends in the global data center business, particularly regarding power and the impact of the AI boom, with a regional breakdown provided by the Data Center Hawk team. Key Regional Insights on Power and Trends: APAC (Asia-Pacific), led by Daddy Escandar:Power situations are unevenly distributed.Tier one markets like Japan, Singapore, and Australia face similar issues to the US, with power delivery timelines extending to 8–10 years or as fast as 1–2 years.Grid quality is also unequal, leading to the use of non-traditional power sources in tier two markets like Vietnam, the Philippines, Thailand, and India.A significant project is Google's announced 5-gigawatt data center in India, which requires massive grid upgrades in the Chennai region.AI is viewed differently across the region, and many new deployments (45-50%) are being designed as "AI ready," giving the region the luxury of time to prepare before the customers arrive.Nuclear energy is not yet popular, though SMR (Small Modular Reactor) technology is being assessed in Indonesia, the Philippines, Vietnam, and Malaysia as a fast option for energy where grid quality is poor.Latin America (LATAM), led by Steve Sass: Brazil is the largest market, accounting for 40-45% of the region. It is well-set up for power, with growth spreading from São Paulo and Rio to tier two markets.The region benefits from submarine cable capacity and interconnection, which draws development to coastal areas.Mexico faces power constraints, specifically transmission issues, in areas like Querétaro, with some large data center companies unable to sell space due to expected power delays of one or two years.Transmission is the biggest constraint.Private companies may charge high interconnection fees ($800–$1,000 KVA) for connecting to a substation in an industrial park.Argentina may see investments due to the discovery of the second-largest natural gas reserve in the south, potentially mirroring the growth in West Texas.Most countries in LATAM (Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay) have 80-95% renewable energy, primarily from hydro (50-70%).LATAM is waiting for the AI "wave" to hit, as connectivity is needed first; Chinese cloud companies are growing capacity rapidly in the region.North America, led by Ed Soja: Power constraints are regional; Texas has exploded with projects in West Texas (Abilene, Amarillo) and South Dallas, due to the adoption of natural gas as a power source.Projects are moving to tertiary, non-traditional markets due to power availability, such as P Washington, Wisconsin, and Santa Teresa, New Mexico.Large-scale gigawatt developments are still occurring, but there's a return to 20–50 megawatt deployments following a hub-and-spoke model.Natural gas is currently used in the US as a "bridging power solution" to get projects running quickly in constrained markets until utility power is available. Its adoption is shaping development locations.There is a shift toward nuclear power, with hyperscalers acquiring and talking about building reactors. The host predicts significant nuclear data center projects in the US by 2030.EMEA (Europe, Middle East, and Africa), led by David Saunders: The main challenge is finding available land and power in suitable locations.Data center operators are partnering with power companies to solve generation, transmission, and distribution challenges.Europe has a lot of planned capacity, but the timeline for power delivery is uncertain.The planning and regulatory framework is complex, and a shortage of skilled labor is also a factor.The legacy FLAP-D markets (Frankfurt, London, Amsterdam, Paris, Dublin) are slowing down, particularly Dublin due to a political moratorium. Emerging markets like Nordic and Southern Europe (Portugal, Spain, Italy, Greece) are gaining momentum.The UK government has dedicated data centers as critical national infrastructure, which could speed up the regulatory process.The Irish government recently announced that large energy users can apply to develop gas power plants to support their businesses.The Middle East is an emerging market with exceptional growth. Saudi Arabia and UAE are the two major markets, with plans for multi-gigawatt campuses. The region aims to become the AI hub connecting Asia and Europe.Outlook on the AI Boom:.David Liot (CEO, Data Center Hawk) predicts a 3-to-5-year window for the current "straight up" AI boom, constrained by supply and alternative energy pathways. The key factors to track globally are: who has the power, who has the money (for billion-dollar projects), and who has the chips. Data Center Hawk tracked 3 gigawatts of absorption in the US in 2023, 6.8 gigawatts in 2024, and 15.6 gigawatts in 2025, which the speaker notes represents roughly $2 trillion in transactional value.Other speakers believe the runway is much longer, as large-scale enterprise adoption of AI in sectors like finance and healthcare is still in its infancy.

In this episode, Raymond Hawkins, Chief Revenue Officer at Compass Datacenters, sits down with Brad Meissner, Director of Product Management at Generac and proud Milwaukee native. Brad shares his journey from growing up as a farm kid in southeast Wisconsin to earning a mechanical engineering degree from the Milwaukee School of Engineering, and ultimately leading Generac’s industrial stationary generator line. The discussion explores Generac’s bold entrance into the data center market with the recent launch of high-capacity (2.25–3.25 MW) generator sets—addressing pressing supply chain and lead time challenges within mission-critical power. Brad delves into Generac’s evolution from primarily consumer backup power solutions into a fully-fledged energy technology company, including strategic acquisitions in smart controls and microgrid systems. The conversation also highlights Generac’s agility in manufacturing, its commitment to local production in Wisconsin, advances in monitoring and managed services, and the growing role of sustainable fuels like HVO. Timestamped Overview00:00 Intro & Brad’s Generac Career Journey04:38 Celebrating Generact at Summer Fest07:58 Evolving into an Energy Tech Company10:42 Generac's Rapid Strategic Entry14:08 Streamlining Standby Power Lead Time18:35 UK's Leading Generator Control Supplier19:44 HVO: A Versatile Fuel Alternative23:20 Exciting North American Expansion Strategy

In this episode, Raymond Hawkins, Chief Revenue Officer at Compass Datacenters, sits down with Mark Spieler, Senior Managing Director of Global Energy Industry at NVIDIA. Mark shares his unique background, from growing up in Minnesota and working at Cray Research and Silicon Graphics, to a 13-year tenure at Halliburton across commercial, finance, and mergers and acquisitions roles, before joining NVIDIA in 2019 to lead their global energy business. The conversation explores the rising impact of AI on energy consumption, positioning data centers as the new “AI factories”—manufacturing knowledge with data and electrons as raw materials. Mark discusses Nvidia’s evolution from gaming hardware to high-performance computing and AI platforms, unlocking efficiencies and new capabilities. Key topics include energy efficiency gains in AI workloads, the future of nuclear power and SMRs for data centers, grid optimization, and the transformative economic and social potential of AI. The episode offers deep insights into the intersection of technology, energy, and the data center industry’s future. Timestamped Overview00:00 Intro & Marc’s Background03:44 Corporate Transition to SGI08:26 Career Transition: Halliburton to NVIDIA12:04 From Gaming to AI Platform Leader16:03 AI Empowering Industries, Not Replacing17:47 AI Enhancing Legal Profession Tasks22:44 AI Cost Decline and Adoption Shift23:33 Data Center Consolidation and AI Efficiency27:53 NVIDIA’s Energy Solutions Collaboration30:36 Nuclear Energy: Safe and Underappreciated34:21 How NVIDIA is Innovating Energy Solutions

In this episode, Raymond Hawkins welcomes back Bill (Vitaly) Kleyman—CEO and founder of Apolo, industry thought leader, and data center prognosticator extraordinaire. Bill shares his personal journey, from immigrating to the U.S. as a Ukrainian refugee fleeing the Soviet Union, to becoming a leading voice in tech innovation and AI. The conversation opens with reflections on Ukraine’s ongoing conflict and its impact on Bill’s family. The discussion pivots to the explosive growth and renaissance in the data center sector, driven by surging AI demand. Raymond and Bill cover topics such as power constraints, rack density, the rise of liquid cooling, and the shift toward AI-powered solutions for enterprise and public sector challenges. Bill also explores practical AI use cases Apollo is delivering, from improved municipal services and sentiment analysis to cutting-edge applications in agriculture and finance. The episode offers an energetic, forward-looking perspective on the future of data center infrastructure and AI. Note: This conversation was recorded in June; references to the Ukraine–Russia conflict reflect the situation at that time and may not fully reflect the present moment. Timestamped Overview00:00 Intro & Bill’s Background07:10 Ukraine/Russia: Defending Against Constant Assaults12:54 Honor Ukraine's Security Guarantees14:02 Ukraine Conflict Outcome Scenarios22:23 Military Concerns Over Peace Deal25:14 Untapped Potential of Generative AI26:38 Exploring AI's Practical Applications31:26 AI & Data Centers' Power Demand33:27 Powerful Shift in Data Centers36:45 Leveling the Corporate Tech Playing Field42:09 Reaching Next-Level Data Center Efficiency45:12 AI Usecases 54:55 Scalable, Meaningful Infrastructure Partnership56:21 Democratizing AI: Expanding Possibilities

In this episode, Raymond Hawkins, Chief Revenue Officer at Compass Datacenters, sits down with Marc Borrett, co-founder and CEO of Reactive Technologies. Marc brings a fascinating background spanning electronics innovation, telecom engineering, and the energy sector. Having launched technology ventures from battery chargers to Star Wars toys, Marc’s journey led him from semiconductors to tackling the evolving challenges of modern power grids. The conversation explores the global energy transition, focusing on how the shift from traditional, fossil-fuel-based generation to renewables has transformed grid dynamics. Marc explains the increasing complexity of grid management, the need for real-time data, and the importance of measuring and maintaining grid stability in a world of distributed, less predictable energy sources. The dialogue delves into Reactive’s unique approach—leveraging grid physics to both communicate with and monitor assets at the grid’s edge—and how understanding grid strength and stability can shape smarter investments, operational decisions, and data center siting in an energy-constrained world. Timestamped Overview00:00 Entrepreneurial Journey in Electronics03:46 Chip Innovation Sparks NFC Revolution09:55 Energy Management for Carrefour14:27 Grid Communication Challenges Explored18:53 Power Station Grid Stabilization Explained21:43 Grid Stability in Energy Transition25:58 Optimizing Grid Signal Integration28:44 Accurate Real-Time Grid Measurement33:08 Time-of-Use Tariffs & Demand Trends34:30 U.S. Energy Demand: Duck Curve

Today we welcome Dave Rubcich, Global Vice President of Key Accounts at Vertiv to discuss the innovative partnership in cooling between Vertiv and Compass Datacenters©. Raymond and Dave explore the evolution of data center cooling technologies from the 1980s to the present, into the transition from traditional air cooling to modern liquid cooling methods while addressing the increasing thermal demands of AI-powered data centers. They highlight the innovative Cool Face Flex solution—formerly referred to as the DH400—a hybrid unit offering unmatched flexibility in accommodating both air and liquid cooling without altering data center designs. Throughout the episode, insights into data center energy efficiency, the technological journey from Liebert to Vertiv, and the significance of adaptable cooling solutions are offered, providing listeners with a comprehensive understanding of current data center cooling trends. Timestamped Overview00:00 Intro03:38 Pivot from Engineering to Sales06:54 Liebert's Early Talent Development Program11:06 Tech Advances in Room Temperature Efficiency14:42 Optimizing HVAC Efficiency and Control17:19 Emerson's Network Power Divestment23:28 Evolution of Cooling in Computing26:54 Pumped Refrigerant Breakthrough29:33 Outdoor DSE Pump Solution31:01 Flexible Chilled Water Unit Development

Host Raymond Hawkins is live from the picturesque PTC 2025 in Honolulu, Hawaii, joined by three seasoned industry experts: Martin Antunez from LATAM Entry LLC, David Liggit from datacenterHawk, and Barro Luitjes from KevlinX. Martin, the founder and CEO of LATAM Entry LLC, provides insights into the Latin American data center ecosystem, focusing on subsea cables, land developers, and fiber providers. The discussion highlights the region's fast-growing market, the substantial investments in infrastructure, and the challenges like energy tariffs and government regulation. David Liggit, founder and CEO of datacenterHawk, offers a comprehensive view of the North American data center market. The conversation explores the unprecedented growth driven by AI, emerging secondary and tertiary markets, and the importance of holistic strategies for power and community relationships. Barro Luitjes, strategy head at KevlinX, discusses the European data center landscape, emphasizing the shift to underserved regions due to regulatory constraints in traditional markets. He also talks about the importance of educating stakeholders and partnering with power providers for sustainable growth. Timestamped Overview00:00 Intro & Driving Data Center Growth LATAM04:42 Bridging US and Latin America07:42 Streamlining Deal-Making Insights09:33 Navy Influence: From Law to Finance14:59 Colombia's AI Implementation Bill Insights16:56 AI-Driven Infrastructure Expansion21:21 Regulation-Driven Market Shifts24:22 European Employment Strategy Explained28:16 Power Partnerships in Industry29:36 Energy Strategy Development in Queretaro34:34 Data Center Benefits and Opportunities37:19 Optimizing Europe's Data Center Strategy

In this discussion, Raymond Hawkins, Chief Revenue Officer at Compass Datacenters, engages with Dr. Terry Clower, a distinguished professor of public policy at George Mason University, who also serves as the director of the Center for Regional Analysis and the Stephen Fuller Institute. The conversation delves into the strategic considerations for data center siting and land use, contrasting U.S. practices with European models. Dr. Clower provides insights on the essential role of data centers in the data economy and their impact on regional development. The dialogue touches upon critical issues like power consumption and sustainability, highlighting power planning, renewable energy sources, and the potential to revitalize nuclear infrastructure. The significance of data centers in modern economic development strategies is discussed, especially their influence on local tax bases and low infrastructure strain. Overall, the discussion offers valuable perspectives on how municipalities can integrate data centers into their economies, emphasizing long-term planning and the evolving landscape of utility and energy demands. Timestamped Overview:00:00 Intro00:52 Navigated unstable job market, transitioned to logistics.04:49 Recruited to lead Center for Regional Analysis.08:28 Varied localities' attitudes impact economic development approaches.12:20 Buddy Reiser navigates data center challenges locally.15:25 All data centers need careful land allocation.17:59 Renewables insufficient; old infrastructure revived due to demand.19:43 Data centers’ demand reshaping power industry dynamics.22:51 Exploring nuclear solutions to reduce waste.26:18 Data center proximity doesn't affect property value.30:28 Adapt to data economy or face constraints.35:27 Minor adjustments can help economies grow again.37:41 Northern Virginia's electrician apprenticeships thrive, creating jobs.

In this engaging episode, Raymond Hawkins, Chief Revenue Officer at Compass Datacenters, interviews Kirk Offel, CEO, and founder of Overwatch. The conversation delves into Kirk’s illustrious military background, highlighting his tenure on the USS Memphis submarine, rigorous deployments, and transition to civilian life. Kirk recounts the challenging yet rewarding experiences at sea and the unique leadership and technical skills honed through military service. Topics include the military's role in fostering discipline and the significant technological advancements veterans bring to civilian industries. Kirk shares insights on his decision to leave a traditional career to establish Overwatch, emphasizing the value of veteran-owned businesses. The discussion explores the evolving tech landscape, veterans' adaptability, and the importance of continuous learning. Raymond and Kirk also reflect on honoring Vietnam veterans, the significance of supportive communities in veteran transitions, and the inspiration behind founding the Data Center Anti Conference (DCAC). Timestamped Overview00:00 Intro01:09 Kirk’s background04:13 Military service inspires veteran entrepreneurship and community.09:36 Gen Z surpassing Baby Boomers in workforce.10:44 Military offers advanced tech training without war risks.16:32 Navy offered broader options than SEER training.18:33 Submarine community: intellectual, rigorous, challenging, competitive.20:54 Real deployments with impactful military missions.25:35 Vietnam vets deserve respect and gratitude.29:33 Lead with empathy and adaptability during transitions.30:37 Community collaboration empowers veterans for meaningful careers.34:25 Empowering veterans through community, networking, and conferences.37:59 Helping veterans is my purpose-driven mission.40:36 Kirk's invite prompts fear of workout readiness.