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I quit my job for pizza. Should you? My name is Eidref Laxa and I am a Mobile Caterer, Ooni Ambassador, and Pan Pizza Champion. Pizza changed my life. I'm guessing that if you're here, it's already changed yours. I started this podcast to learn about pizza and starting a pizzeria. I’m not ready to open a brick and mortar just yet, but I’m still obsessed with learning from pizza operators. Because one day, I just might. I'm just busy doing other things first.
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He Sold 800k Pizzas on DoorDash. Did He Actually Make Money?
2026/09/28
What happens when a pizza business gets too big for the systems that got it there?
Eidref sits down with Marc from Square Pie Guys to talk about what happens when a pizza business really starts to scale. From selling more than 800,000 pizzas on DoorDash to opening multiple locations, Marc shares the expensive lessons, growing pains, maintenance issues, and the challenge of relying on third-party delivery apps while building a stronger direct relationship with customers.
Highlights:0:00 – From Pop-Up to 800,000+ Pizzas on DoorDash1:32 – Making the Iconic Square Pie Guys Pizza2:18 – Over 1 Million Pizzas Sold2:48 – The Reality of Growing a Multi-Million-Dollar Business3:20 – When Growth Means Taking on Too Much3:49 – Finding a Way Forward After Expanding Too Quickly4:00 – Why Problems Multiply as You Add More Locations4:35 – The $500 Maintenance Check That Can Prevent a $20K Bill5:32 – How Fearlessness Can Drive Business Growth5:59 – The Cheese Behind Square Pie Guys’ Pizza6:32 – How Third-Party Apps Influence Pizza Pricing7:46 – Can Square Pie Guys Ever Get Off Delivery Apps?8:00 – Building Direct Customer Relationships8:10 – Why Content Marketing Could Reduce Dependence on Delivery Apps8:30 – Why Customers Ordering Direct Can Help Restaurants
Follow them:https://www.squarepieguys.com/https://instagram.com/squarepieguyshttps://www.facebook.com/squarepieguys/https://www.tiktok.com/@squarepieguys?lang=enhttps://www.reddit.com/r/SquarePieGuys/Thank you to our show sponsors:Bacio Cheese:https://bit.ly/3FmQ3up
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Topics: Square Pie Guys, Marc, Eidref, What’s Good Dough, Square Pie Guys pizza, Bay Area pizza, San Francisco pizza, Walnut Creek pizza, Palo Alto pizza, square pizza, Detroit style pizza, pizza business, pizza restaurant, pizzeria business, pizza entrepreneurship, restaurant growth, restaurant scaling, scaling a pizza business, restaurant expansion, third party delivery apps, DoorDash pizza, restaurant delivery, direct ordering, restaurant marketing, content marketing for restaurants, pizza marketing, restaurant operations, restaurant maintenance, restaurant profitability, pizza business growth, pizzeria owner, restaurant owner, food business, independent pizzeria, pizza industry
Booked a $10k Wedding. Practiced By Making Pizza For 200 People
2026/09/14
What Does It Really Take to Land High-Paying Pizza Catering Clients?In this episode, Eidref breaks down one of his toughest catering events, what he learned from serving 176 people, and why he’s decided to step away from catering to focus on building a media company.Highlights:
0:52 – The Catering Event That Didn’t Go as Planned1:30 – Why a “Bad” Catering Gig Can Still Be a Win1:38 – What Serving 176 People Taught Him2:10 – Why the Next 100-Person Event Feels Easier2:17 – Bringing in Extra Hands for a Smoother Service2:28 – How Experience Builds Confidence2:36 – How to Land Higher-Paying Catering Clients2:58 – From $40 Per Person to $75 Per Person3:12 – Why Your Pizza Brand Can Help You Charge More3:24 – Building a Pizza Brand on Instagram3:43 – Why Your Pizza Has to Look Good AND Deliver3:54 – Starting Small to Build Confidence & Content4:14 – Believing in Your Product4:35 – Knowing When Your Pizza Is Good Enough to Sell4:48 – Why This Might Be His Last Catering Gig4:52 – Choosing a Media Company Over Catering5:27 – The Real Cost of Taking on More Catering Jobs5:59 – Why You Can’t Give 100% to Two Growing Businesses6:06 – Saying No to a $100-Person Catering Gig6:14 – Focus Means Eliminating Options6:34 – Choosing the Bigger Long-Term Goal7:12 – What Eidref Wants You to Take From the Journey8:19 – Was This His Smoothest Catering Event?8:30 – Learning From a Tough Catering Gig8:57 – What Serving 176 People Taught Him9:03 – Why the Next 100-Person Catering Will Be Easier9:12 – Why He’s Bringing a Fourth Person9:40 – Feeling Confident Going Into the Next Event9:58 – How to Land Higher-Paying Catering Clients10:04 – How Much He Charges for Catering10:39 – Investing in Your Pizza Brand10:51 – Why a Strong Instagram Presence Can Help You Charge More11:21 – Why Experience Builds Confidence11:32 – Believing in Your Pizza Product12:03 – Why He’s Quitting Catering12:16 – Building a Media Company12:23 – The Real Cost of Taking on More Catering Jobs
Thank you to our show sponsors:Ooni Link: https://www.awin1.com/cread.php?awinmid=77074&awinaffid=1800006Bacio Cheese:https://bit.ly/3FmQ3upJoin my Instagram Community Channel: https://www.instagram.com/channel/AbbWnReTYIlCfO21/Patreon Page: patreon.com/whatsgooddoughDM @whatsgooddoughhttps://www.instagram.com/whatsgooddough/email me: [email protected]: pizza catering, pizza catering business, pizza catering tips, pizza catering pricing, catering business, catering clients, high-paying catering clients, pizza business, pizza brand, pizza marketing, Instagram pizza marketing, pizza influencer, food influencer, personal branding, catering business growth, pizza business growth, catering event tips, catering experience, catering confidence, pizza entrepreneur, food business, restaurant business, small business growth, entrepreneurship, business mindset, knowing when to say no, business focus, building a media company, What’s Good Dough, Eidref
This Tiny Kitchen Sells Out at 500 Pizzas (Frank's Pizza And Pasta Baltimore MD)
2026/08/24
What happens when a 41-year-old pizza shop suddenly goes viral and its tiny kitchen can barely keep up?
In this episode, Eidref sits down with Gerry Buontempo of Frank’s Pizza & Pasta in Baltimore to talk about the family business, upgrading their pizza, handling explosive growth, and keeping the old-school feel that made the shop special.
Highlights:
00:52 – Taking Over a Family Pizzeria During COVID
01:51 – The Bell Curve of a Multi-Generational Business
03:02 – Losing Their Pizza Guy & Stepping Into the Role
03:52 – Learning Baker’s Percentages & Rebuilding the Dough
05:41 – Best Product + Best Known = An Unstoppable Force
06:52 – When Growth Outpaced 40-Year-Old Equipment
07:24 – Finally Getting the Lease & Planning a Massive Kitchen Upgrade
08:02 – How Operators Can Create a New Growth Curve
09:46 – Doing 150 Pizzas an Hour With a Tiny Kitchen
10:46 – The Choreography Behind a High-Volume Pizzeria
11:25 – Four-to-Five-Day Dough Fermentation
12:06 – Keeping the Sauce Simple
13:05 – Why Pizza Expo Changed Everything
14:32 – The Unspoken Brotherhood of Pizza Competitions
16:32 – Pizza Karma & Helping Other Competitors
17:06 – Their Award-Winning Margherita
18:08 – Working With Six-Day-Old Dough
19:13 – Why There’s No Such Thing as the “Best” Dough
20:20 – How Pizza Became a Turning Point in Life
22:49 – Carrying on a Family Legacy Through Pizza
24:56 – What Actually Defines Success?
25:33 – Turning Instagram Followers Into Real Sales
26:34 – Recognizing the Signs That You’re on the Right Path
28:06 – Why You Need to Take Inventory of Your Progress
28:53 – Fresh Mozzarella & Respecting the Craft
29:28 – How Small Improvements Compound Over Time
30:25 – The Instagram Strategy: Be the Best Known
31:20 – The Science Behind a Consistent Crispy Bake
32:21 – Water, Time & Temperature: The Pizza “Dance”
34:40 – Why the Micro Details Matter
36:40 – Where Most Pizza Makers Cut Corners
37:09 – The Operators Who Obsess Over Standards
38:27 – “Inspect What You Expect”
39:12 – “What You Permit Is What You Promote”
40:26 – Why You Have to Be Obsessed With What You Do
41:01 – Finding the Work That Gives You More Than Money
43:15 – What’s Good Dough?
44:13 – Feeding People, Making Connections & Building Community
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Topics:
Frank’s Pizza and Pasta, Frank’s Pizza Baltimore, Jerry Von Tempo, Baltimore pizza, Baltimore pizzeria, old school pizzeria, family owned pizza shop, multi generational restaurant, 41 year old pizzeria, pizza business growth, pizza shop viral review, Dave Portnoy pizza review, pizza restaurant success, pizza Expo, pizza dough, bakers percentages, pizza kitchen bottleneck, restaurant equipment upgrade, pizzeria kitchen renovation, high volume pizza shop, cheese pizza, Bacio mozzarella, buffalo mozzarella, pizza business social media, Instagram restaurant marketing, pizza marketing strategy, family restaurant business, pizza entrepreneur, pizza industry, restaurant growth, pizza podcast, What’s Good Dough podcast, Eidref podcast, Baltimore food scene, independent pizzeria, restaurant community, pizza business strategy
The Best San Jose Pizzeria Yet To Be Discovered (The Last Round Tavern)
2026/08/14
What makes a tavern-style pizza stand out—and what does it take to build a pizzeria that can grow beyond the owner?
In this episode, Eidref visits Last Round Tavern in San Jose and sits down with owner Caleb Orozco to talk about the unique pizza style he's bringing to the Bay Area.Their tavern-style pizza is thin, crispy, cut into squares, and loaded with ingredients all the way to the edge—but instead of the traditional cornmeal, Caleb uses a sourdough starter. The result is a pizza that's familiar, but completely its own thing.
Highlights:
0:00 – Discovering San Jose’s Hidden Tavern-Style Pizza
0:32 – What Makes Last Round Tavern’s Pizza Different
1:00 – Sourdough Meets Chicago Tavern-Style Pizza
1:52 – Rolling, Stretching & Building the Dough
2:24 – The Cuban Pizza: Braised Pork, Ham & Salami
3:07 – 15-Hour Wine-Braised Brisket
3:33 – Building a Taco-Inspired Pizza
3:45 – What Would Caleb Tell His 26-Year-Old Self?
4:20 – Learning to Step Away From the Kitchen
4:50 – Why the Owner Can Become the Biggest Bottleneck
5:00 – Revitalizing East Santa Clara Street
5:35 – Why Last Round Didn’t Offer Online Ordering for Five Years
6:00 – Overcoming Fear & Opening Up to New Opportunities
6:34 – “I Should Have Done This a Long Time Ago”
6:41 – Building a Business That Isn’t Just About the Owner
7:00 – Taking the In-Restaurant Experience Online
7:39 – Creating a Better Online Ordering Experience
8:48 – Tasting the Pizza: The “Hella Texture” Moment
9:30 – The Crunch and Texture They’ve Been Chasing
10:10 – Tasting the 15-Hour Braised Brisket
10:41 – Why They Put So Much Time Into Their Ingredients
10:52 – Creating Something Customers Can’t Find Anywhere Else
11:14 – Final Thoughts: Quality, Value & Doing Something Different
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Topics:
Last Round Tavern, Last Round Tavern San Jose, San Jose pizza, tavern style pizza, Chicago tavern style pizza, sourdough tavern pizza, Bay Area pizza, San Jose pizzeria, thin crispy pizza, square cut pizza, sourdough pizza, tavern style pizza California, Cuban pizza, Cuban pork pizza, brisket pizza, taco pizza, wine braised brisket, pizza dough fermentation, pizza business, pizzeria owner, restaurant owner operator, restaurant systems, restaurant bottleneck, online ordering restaurant, restaurant growth, pizza business growth, Bay Area pizzeria, San Jose food scene, pizza entrepreneur, pizza podcast, What’s Good Dough podcast, Eidref podcast, pizza business strategy, independent pizzeria, restaurant marketing, customer experience, pizza industry, artisan pizza, unique pizza concepts
Let's Make Award Winning Detroit Pizza with White Rabbit Gastro Pub
2026/08/10
How do you build a successful pizzeria, empower your team, and still have a life outside the restaurant?In this episode, Eidref heads to White Rabbit Gastropub in Frederick, Maryland, home of the World Champion Detroit-style pizza and the team behind Rad Pies.The conversation goes way beyond pizza. From developing the famous Crust We Trust to building systems that allow the owner to step away from the day-to-day, this episode digs into restaurant growth, leadership, dough development, customer experience, and the reality of balancing business with family.The team also breaks down how they built their signature 100% hydration dough, experimented their way to better cheese and baking results, eliminated reservations to increase table utilization, and created a culture where employees are empowered to make mistakes and grow.Highlights:2:38 – Welcome to White Rabbit: World Champion Detroit Pizza3:48 – Why Cheese Pizza Is the Ultimate Test6:08 – The Evolution of the White Rabbit Smash Burger6:53 – The Mentor Who Changed Their Restaurant Strategy8:13 – Building Loyalty Through Happy Hour & Word of Mouth9:28 – Adding $1 Million in Sales Without Massive Volume10:08 – Why They Eliminated Reservations12:08 – Building a Bakery & Commissary Kitchen12:38 – The 100% Hydration Dough Behind Crust We Trust14:08 – Creating the Signature Pepperoni-Filled Crust15:38 – The Science Behind Their Cheese Experiments17:18 – Why 100% Hydration Dough Is So Difficult17:58 – Why They Refuse to Compromise on Their Process19:03 – 25-Year-Old Sourdough Starter & Long Fermentation21:18 – Building the Rad Pies Team21:48 – Empowering Managers to Run the Business23:18 – The Goal of an Owner-Absent Restaurant24:38 – Creating the Crispy Bottom on Detroit Pizza31:08 – The “Cheez-It” Theory Behind the Perfect Crust32:38 – Chasing Consistency Without Going Too Dark44:08 – How Small Markets Can Compete With Big Cities45:28 – What Is the “White Rabbit Attitude”?1:01:18 – Can Systems Give You More Freedom?1:01:58 – Is the Juice Worth the Squeeze?1:02:38 – Eidref’s Question: Is It Time to Open a Pizzeria?1:03:38 – Using a Restaurant as a Professional Proving Ground1:07:38 – Building a Business Without Losing Time With Family1:09:38 – The 60-Day Grind Behind Opening Rad Pies1:11:23 – Learning Every System by Doing It Yourself1:15:08 – Final Advice: Listen, Adapt & Don’t Be Afraid to Change1:16:38 – Why Pizza Brings People Together1:17:38 – The Power of Relationships in the Pizza IndustryFollow them:https://www.instagram.com/radpiesmd/?hl=enThank you to our show sponsors:Bacio Cheese:https://bit.ly/3FmQ3upCorto:https://bit.ly/457DNIIDM @whatsgooddoughhttps://www.instagram.com/whatsgooddough/email me: [email protected]:detroit style pizza, maryland pizza, rad pies md, best pizza in maryland, maryland food, pizza review, detroit style pizza maryland, rad pies, maryland hidden gems, award winning pizza, pizza vlogger, best pizza md
Is This The Best Detroit Style Pizza In All of Maryland? (Rad Pies MD)
2026/07/26
In this episode of What's Good Dough, we head to Rad Pies in Maryland to see if their Detroit-style pizza lives up to the hype. Known for that signature crispy cheese crust and airy dough, we’re putting their pies to the ultimate test.Highlights:00:07 — White Rabbit / Rad Pies intro & the accidental pepperoni frico crust00:40 — The 100% hydration dough01:04 — 25-year-old starter & 19-hour ambient fermentation02:03 — Why pro pizza makers avoid 100% hydration02:20 — Building the Detroit: killing the gum line & cupping-pepperoni walls02:59 — How the pepperoni frico creates the "glass"03:13 — Tasting: Maryland crab pizza03:40 — Tasting: the smash burger (20,000 a year)03:57 — Tasting: chicken cutlet (pesto & vodka sauce)04:16 — Tasting: Cheese pizza (best showcase of the dough)04:41 — Tasting: broccoli-lemon-ricotta white pizza ("Martha Stewart's prison pizza")05:05 — Running the business: why great food needs great operations05:25 — Letting staff fail, buying out the partner & +$1M in sales06:33 — Happy hour philosophy: converting guests to full-price entréesFollow them:https://www.instagram.com/radpiesmd/?hl=enhttps://www.instagram.com/whiterabbitgastropubThank you to our show sponsors:Bacio Cheese:https://bit.ly/3FmQ3upDM @whatsgooddoughhttps://www.instagram.com/whatsgooddough/email me: [email protected]:detroit style pizza, maryland pizza, rad pies md, best pizza in maryland, maryland food, pizza review, detroit style pizza maryland, rad pies, maryland hidden gems, award winning pizza, pizza vlogger, best pizza md
How a Failed Pizzeria Owner Built a Pizza Oven Empire
2026/07/19
What makes this the "Ferrari" of pizza ovens?
In this episode, we go inside the Marra Forni factory to see how the "Ferrari" of brick ovens is built. Founder Francesco Marra share powerful story of moving to America with nothing, facing a major restaurant failure, and eventually building a global business that ships to 37 countries. We also dive into the tech that can double or triple a restaurant's revenue.
Highlights:
00:52 – Intro: The Ferrari of Pizza Ovens
01:32 – Inside the Factory: Building Brick by Brick
02:42 – From Failed Pizzeria to Pizza University
04:02 – Static vs. Rotator: Which Oven Doubles Revenue?
05:55 – The Art of the Bake: Maximizing Deck Space
06:54 – History & Consistency: Learning from Pompeii
08:34 – The Business of Marra Forni: 600 Ovens a Year
09:15 – The Rise of High-Performance Electric Ovens
10:14 – Francesco’s 5 P’s for Building a Great Business
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Topic:pizza oven, brick oven, Marra Forni, pizzeria revenue, pizza business, commercial oven, wood fired oven, electric pizza oven, pizza equipment, restaurant tech, pizza university, artisanal pizza, pizza industry, restaurant profit, oven factory, pizza manufacturing, rotary oven, authentic pizza, dough consistency, pizza gear, high-volume pizzeria, professional pizza oven, pizza marketing, restaurant operations, bakery equipment
Inside the SD Pizzeria That Did $3M Their First Year (Odie's Pizza)
2026/06/21
What happens when a pizza shop expects to do $6,000 a day... but ends up doing $16,000?
In this episode, Eidref visits Odie's Pizza in San Diego and sits down with founder Odie O’Connor to discuss one of the fastest-growing pizza concepts in Southern California.
From building a vegan Detroit-style pizza brand in Portland to launching a surf-inspired sourdough pizza shop that generated over $1 million in its first few months, Odie shares the systems, mindset, and lessons behind scaling a high-volume restaurant. This conversation covers dough production, team building, customer service, expansion plans, and the mental challenges that come with explosive growth.
Highlights:00:52 – Crushing Projections: From $6K Days to $16K Days
01:12 – Producing Up to 800 Pizzas Per Day
01:42 – The Dough System Powering High Volume
02:12 – Why Odell Returned to San Diego
02:42 – Building a Surf, Skate & Punk Rock Pizza Brand
03:12 – The Unexpected Explosion in Sales
03:42 – Scaling Without Selling Out
04:12 – Managing a 22-Person Team During Peak Service
04:32 – Redefining What's Possible in a Small Space
04:52 – What Good Dough Means to Odell
05:22 – High Hydration, Long Fermentation & Sourdough
05:52 – Switching From Conveyor Ovens to PizzaMaster Ovens
06:32 – The Hardest Part of Running a High-Volume Restaurant
07:12 – Training Pizza Makers Under Pressure
07:42 – Handling Customer Complaints the Right Way
08:22 – Why Great Customer Service Builds Loyalty
08:52 – Growing From Pop-Up to Food Truck to Brick & Mortar
09:32 – Why Starting Small Matters
09:52 – The Pizza That Defines Odie's
10:22 – Expanding to a Second Location
10:52 – Raising Capital and Scaling the Brand
11:32 – Surpassing First-Year Revenue Goals
12:12 – The Reality of Overnight Success
12:42 – Managing Stress as an Entrepreneur
13:22 – Therapy, Mindset, and Staying Present
14:02 – What If Everything Goes Right?
14:32 – Gratitude, Success, and Building Something You Love
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Topic:
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7 Pro Upgrades to Transform Your Pizza Catering Setup
2026/06/14
What are the best upgrades you can make to run smoother, faster, and more profitable pizza catering events?
In this episode, Eidref breaks down the seven biggest upgrades he's making to his pizza catering setup for 2026.
After five years of catering as a side hustle, a sudden influx of new bookings pushed him to rethink every part of his operation. From cooler systems and organization hacks to rotating pizza stones and workflow improvements, this episode is all about working smarter, delivering a better customer experience, and building a catering business that scales.
Whether you're a pizza caterer, food entrepreneur, or mobile pizza operator, you'll find practical ideas you can implement immediately.
Highlights:00:52 – Why 2026 Is a Big Year for Pizza Catering01:32 – The Question That Improves Every Event01:52 – Upgrade #1: Bigger Coolers, Fewer Trips02:52 – Keeping Food Safe During Delays03:42 – Titan Ice Packs vs Traditional Ice04:12 – Upgrade #2: Every Bin Has a Job05:22 – Why Clear Bins Aren't the Real Solution05:52 – Building a System Instead of Buying More Gear06:52 – Creating Bin Checklists and Team Reference Cards08:07 – Solving the "Where Is Everything?" Problem08:52 – Upgrade #3: Contractor Bags for Faster Cleanup09:52 – Protecting Equipment and Saving Your Back10:52 – Using Business Credit Cards to Fund Upgrades11:22 – Upgrade #4: Rotating Pizza Stones12:32 – How Rotating Stones Improve Consistency14:02 – Better Heat Distribution and Faster Production15:12 – Why Better Execution Creates More Referrals16:12 – Reinvesting Catering Profits Into the Business16:22 – Upgrade #5: Using an Ooni Volt as a Pizza Warmer17:52 – Serving More Guests Without Sacrificing Quality18:52 – Battery Power Solutions for Mobile Catering19:42 – Upgrade #6: Bed Risers for Higher Workstations20:32 – Saving Your Back During Long Events20:57 – Upgrade #7: Sliding Pizza Peels21:42 – The Cheapest Upgrade That Saves the Most Time22:02 – Lessons Learned and Final Thoughts
7 PRO UPGRADES FOR PIZZA CATERING — GEAR LIST• Igloo Max Cold 150 qt (topping cooler) → https://www.awin1.com/cread.php?awinmid=77074&awinaffid=1800006• Igloo Max Cold 150 qt (dough cooler) → https://www.awin1.com/cread.php?awinmid=77074&awinaffid=1800006• Titan High Performance Ice Packs (8-pack) → https://www.costco.com/p/-/titan-high-performance-ice-packs-8-pack/4000241024• HDX 40-gallon storage tote → https://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-40-Gal-Tough-Storage-Tote-in-Black-with-Yellow-Lid-999-40G-HDX/328027044• Hefty 55 Gal No Scent Contractor Bags (16 pk) → https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hefty-Heavy-Duty-Contractor-Extra-Large-Trash-Bags-55-gallon-16-Count/40547485• 💳 Chase Ink Business Cash → http://chase.com/• Ooni Rotating Stone → https://www.awin1.com/cread.php?awinmid=77074&awinaffid=1800006• Ooni Volt 1 → https://www.awin1.com/cread.php?awinmid=77074&awinaffid=1800006• OUPES Exodus 2400 Portable Power Station → https://oupes.com/products/oupes-exodus-2400-portable-power-station-2400w-2232wh• Bacio Cheese — operator sample request → https://bit.ly/3FmQ3up• Temu sliding pizza peel → https://www.temu.com/sliding-pizza-peel--pizza-spatula-paddle-transfers-pizza-perfectly-to-oven-or-stone-pala-pizza-scorrevole-g-601101783448977.html• Utopia Bedding Bed Risers (3"/5" adjustable) → https://www.amazon.com/Utopia-Bedding-Premium-Adjustable-Furniture/dp/B073WFCV1L• Lifetime 6-foot folding table (Costco) → https://www.costco.com/p/-/lifetime-commercial-6-fold-in-half-table-2-pack/4000390113•Corto → ]https://bit.ly/457DNII
Topic:pizza catering, pizza catering business, mobile pizza catering, pizza catering equipment, pizza catering setup, pizza catering upgrades, pizza business tips, pizza catering workflow, mobile pizzeria setup, pizza operator tips, pizza catering systems, rotating pizza stone, ooni rotating stone, ooni volt pizza warmer, pizza catering cooler setup, pizza catering organization, pizza catering bins,
How A 900 Sq Ft Slice Shop In San Diego does $1M A Year
2026/05/24
What does it really take to build a million-dollar pizza shop with no investors, no dining room, and only 900 square feet?
In this episode, Eidref sits down with Fred Santos of Square Pizza Co., a pizzeria quietly doing massive numbers out of a tiny shop in Pacific Beach.
Fred and his partner Bruno bootstrapped everything themselves, worked brutal hours for years, and built a cult following around square pizzas most people had never even heard of. This conversation dives into sacrifice, systems, dough philosophy, and the long grind behind building a real pizza business from scratch.
Highlights:
01:11 – A 900ft² Pizza Shop Doing $1 Million a Year
01:32 – Living Inside the Shop to Make It Work
01:50 – Massive Volume Without a Dining Room
02:00 – Why Staying Open Until 2AM Matters
02:12 – Winning First Place at Pizza Expo
02:22 – Going Viral Across San Diego
02:35 – Selling Hundreds of Pizzas After the Win
02:51 – Fred’s East Coast Pizza Roots
03:42 – Learning From Busy Sicilian Family Shops
04:07 – Bringing Square Pizza to San Diego
04:12 – Working 105+ Hours Every Week
04:48 – Bootstrapping the Entire Business
05:35 – Why Most Restaurants Fail Early
05:50 – Building a Business Like Planting a Tree
05:54 – The Dough System Behind Their Pizza
06:20 – Beach Pizza: A Style Most People Don’t Know
06:29 – The Unusual Techniques Behind Beach Pizza
06:43 – Why They Use Paper Plates for Dough
07:42 – Running One of the Tightest Small-Shop Operations
08:14 – Expanding After Nearly a Decade of Grinding
08:32 – What Fred Is Truly Grateful For
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Won 3 Pizza World Titles, But His Shop Is Empty. Why?
2026/05/10
How can a three-time world pizza champion still struggle to fill his own shop?
In this episode, Eidref sits down with Ryan Ososky, a three-time world pizza champion and Pizza Maker of the Year, to unpack one of the most interesting contradictions in pizza.
Ryan has the trophies, the technique, and one of the most dialed-in Detroit-style pies in West Hollywood—but the crowds haven’t always matched the accolades. From building award-winning pizza to navigating the brutal economics of running a restaurant in Los Angeles, this conversation gets into what success in the pizza business really looks like.
Highlights:
00:52 – Winning Awards vs Winning in Business
01:02 – Meet Ryan: 3-Time World Champion
01:22 – Why Trophies Don’t Guarantee Customers
01:52 – Building a Detroit-Style Pizza
02:22 – The Reality: Not Busy Enough
02:52 – What It Feels Like to Win but Struggle
03:22 – What Actually Defines a “Real Win”
03:52 – Competition vs Real-World Success
04:22 – Why LA Is a Tough Market
04:52 – High Costs, Labor, and Small Business Pressure
05:22 – Why Restaurants Struggle to Survive
05:52 – Still Showing Up and Staying in the Fight
06:22 – What Makes Detroit-Style Pizza Different
06:52 – Tasting the Product: Does It Deliver?
07:22 – Dough Process & Fermentation Breakdown
07:52 – Chef-Driven Pizza Concept Explained
08:22 – Why Great Pizza Still Might Not Be Enough
08:52 – The Big Question: What’s Missing?
09:22 – Staying in the Game Despite the Odds
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Topic:
pizza business vs pizza awards, world pizza champion reality, why great pizza doesn’t guarantee success, restaurant struggles los angeles, detroit style pizza business, pizzeria marketing problems, why restaurants fail even with awards, chef driven pizza concept, small business restaurant challenges, pizza shop not busy problem, pizza competition vs real world success, building a successful pizzeria, restaurant profitability issues, pizza industry truth, running a pizzeria in la, high cost restaurant operations, independent pizza shop struggles, what makes a pizzeria successful, pizza customer demand vs quality, food business reality check
How He Became Puerto Rico's First World Pizza Champion
2026/04/26
How far would you go to become a world pizza champion?
In this episode, Eidref sits down with Wilhelm Rodriguez, a world pizza champion who spent years chasing one of the toughest titles in the industry.
From competing in pizza acrobatics to grinding through multiple losses in Las Vegas, Wilhelm shares what it really takes to win on the biggest stage. This is a story about obsession, resilience, and why even after reaching the top, the ultimate goal still isn’t finished.
Highlights:
0:53 – The Dream of Becoming a World Pizza Champion
1:13 – Meet Wilhelm Rodriguez
1:43 – From Acrobatics to Pizza Competitions
2:13 – Why Acrobatics Builds Better Pizza Makers
2:43 – Entering the World of Pizza Competitions
3:13 – Why Las Vegas Is the Toughest Stage
3:43 – The Pressure of Competing Twice to Win
4:13 – Years of Losses and Almost Quitting
4:43 – Breaking Through in the International Division
5:13 – Obsessing Over Every Detail to Win
5:43 – Winning Both Rounds in Vegas
6:13 – Representing Puerto Rico on the World Stage
6:43 – Going Viral and National Recognition
7:13 – Hard Work Behind the Success
7:43 – Life After Becoming World Champion
8:03 – The Dream of Becoming a World Pizza Champion (Team)
8:33 – The Meaning of Legacy and Purpose
8:53 – The Emotional Reality of Achieving Your Dream
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Topic:world pizza champion, wilhelm rodriguez pizza, pizza competition vegas, las vegas pizza expo, pizza expo 2025, world pizza champions team, pizza acrobatics, pizza tossing tricks, how to become a pizza champion, pizza competition training, pizza business motivation, pizza maker story, puerto rico pizza, successful pizza chef, pizza industry insights, pizza podcast, what’s good dough podcast, eidref podcast, pizza entrepreneur journey, pizza skills training, competitive pizza making, pizza expo competition, pizza champion mindset, restaurant success story, chasing your dream story, pizza career path, food competition documentary, behind the scenes pizza expo
Inside The $2M Pizzeria That Wasn't Supposed to Exist
2026/04/17
How does a Bay Area pizzeria quietly become a $2 million business?
In this episode, Idris sits down with Leah, owner of Pizza Leah, to break down how a small-town pizzeria quietly hit $2 million in annual sales.
From opening 20 locations to walking away for her health, Leah shares how she rebuilt her life—and built a highly efficient pizza operation rooted in systems, consistency, and intentional decisions.
Highlights:
0:52 – From Dine-In Vision to Takeout Reality
1:22 – Meet Leah: From 20 Stores to One Shop
1:52 – How COVID Reshaped the Business
2:22 – Small Shop, Big Numbers
2:52 – The Oven Bottleneck Problem
3:22 – Why Systems & Communication Matter
3:52 – Opening 20 Restaurants & Burning Out
4:32 – Leaving for Health & Starting Over
5:12 – Dough Philosophy: Long, Slow, Cold Fermentation
5:52 – Balancing Flavor: Salt, Fermentation & Ingredients
6:32 – Hybrid Pan Pizza & Production Efficiency
7:12 – Hitting $2 Million in Sales
7:42 – The Stress of Running a Restaurant
8:12 – Customer Loyalty & Small Town Advantage
8:32 – Intentionality Over Everything
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Topic:bay area pizzeria, pizza leah, leah pizza leah, sonoma county pizzeria, windsor california pizza, $2 million pizzeria, successful pizzeria business, pizza shop success story, pizza restaurant systems, pizzeria operations, small town restaurant success, takeout pizza business, covid restaurant pivot, pizza shop efficiency, kitchen workflow systems, restaurant communication systems, pizza dough fermentation, long cold fermentation pizza, new york style pizza dough, hybrid pan pizza, pizza production efficiency, restaurant owner story, pizza business podcast, how to open a pizzeria, scaling a pizza business, independent pizzeria, pizza industry insights
58 Pizzas in 45 Minutes: The High-Stakes Systems of Wedding Catering
2026/03/22
What does it really take to serve 58 pizzas in just 45 minutes… at a wedding where everything has to be perfect?
In this episode, we go behind the scenes with Linda and Abby of Fired Up Fresh, a mother-daughter duo specializing in high-pressure mobile pizza catering. From months of preparation to last-minute improvisation, they show how chaotic wedding events are transformed into a seamless, high-performance operation.
We break down their entire process—from prepping dough days in advance, managing dietary restrictions on the fly, and optimizing workflow with parbaked pizzas, to executing a flawless dinner service under extreme time pressure. This episode reveals the real “secret sauce” behind catering success: preparation, systems, and the ability to adapt when things don’t go as planned.
Highlights:
01:00 – Serving 58 pizzas in 45 minutes: the challenge
01:10 – Why wedding catering is more complex than it looks
01:21 – Introducing Fired Up Fresh and their mobile catering model
01:30 – The 2-month preparation process behind each event
01:43 – Setting up on-site: trailer, tent, and buffet logistics
01:55 – Starting the oven hours before service
02:14 – Managing pizza temperature and quality
02:24 – Calming clients and building trust on wedding day
02:49 – The mental pressure of catering events
03:05 – Handling dietary restrictions and last-minute changes
03:27 – Improvising ingredients on the fly
03:44 – The importance of preparation and sleep
04:06 – Confidence built through experience
04:22 – Simplifying the menu for efficiency
04:34 – Preparing appetizers and charcuterie cups
04:50 – Coordinating service across multiple locations
05:02 – Experiencing the wedding while waiting for service
05:32 – Preparing pasta and additional menu items
06:02 – Finalizing the pizza menu for the event
06:18 – Why parbaking dough saves time during service
06:49 – Streamlining the pizza assembly process
07:10 – “The 7 Ps”: proper planning prevents poor performance
07:31 – The real secret sauce: systems and organization
07:48 – Managing pizza flow and buffet consistency
08:04 – Transitioning from prep to full service
08:20 – Trusting your team during high-pressure moments
08:34 – Finding rhythm during peak service
08:53 – Managing extreme oven temperatures
09:01 – Producing pizzas at high speed during service
09:16 – Optimizing layout for faster workflow
09:32 – Why parbaking is a game-changer
09:46 – Creating custom meals for dietary needs
10:03 – Serving gluten-free and dairy-free guests
10:19 – Matching the wedding aesthetic and theme
10:44 – Designing a seamless guest experience
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Jeremy and Michele of Gabacool Provisions
2026/03/17
What if the smartest way to start a pizza business isn’t opening a restaurant… but avoiding rent entirely?
In this episode of the What's Good Dough Podcast, we spend the day with Jeremy and Michelle, the team behind Gabacool Pizza, an award-winning pizza pop-up that built a powerful brand without the massive overhead of a traditional restaurant.
From prepping in a commissary kitchen to selling out at brewery pop-ups, they’ve built a business that prioritizes flexibility, creativity, and community.
Throughout the episode, they break down their entire workflow—from prep and transport logistics to branding, menu design, and the realities of running a food business without a permanent location.
If you've ever thought about starting a pizza business but were intimidated by restaurant rent, this episode offers a real blueprint.
Highlights:
02:57 – Arriving at the Petaluma commissary kitchen
03:12 – Why pop-ups still need a legal kitchen space
04:25 – Storage rules and health regulations for food businesses
04:57 – Managing trips between the kitchen and the event location
05:39 – Preparing ingredients for hundreds of pizzas in a shared fridge
06:39 – Organizing dough trays and prep workflow
09:41 – Why their commissary kitchen supports the local community
10:43 – Supporting artists and designing the Gabacool brand
11:19 – How they originally transported their entire pizza operation in small cars
12:00 – Designing a van setup for maximum efficiency
16:00 – Packing equipment and organizing mobile pizza operations
20:00 – Why brewery pop-ups work as a business model
23:57 – Building real relationships with brewery partners
25:10 – Selling out early and the challenges of high demand
30:00 – The realities of running a pizza pop-up every weekend
37:24 – The physical demands of catering and pop-up events
38:53 – Creating a clean and memorable pop-up brand experience
46:05 – Lighting, propane, and the technical side of running a mobile kitchen
50:00 – Dialing in oven temperatures for outdoor pizza service
01:00:00 – The moment a pop-up setup starts feeling like a real restaurant
01:05:49 – Creating weekly specials using local farm ingredients
01:06:20 – Non-food tasks required to run a food business
01:06:30 – Branding, merch design, and social media strategy
01:08:55 – Running a business without a traditional office
01:10:48 – Designing marketing materials from a phone or tablet
01:11:04 – Michelle’s background in events, design, and hospitality
01:15:30 – Learning to run multiple pizza ovens during service
01:16:40 – The trial-and-error process of improving systems and workflow
01:16:47 – Winning a scholarship to Pizza University
01:19:00 – Overcoming imposter syndrome in the pizza industry
01:31:25 – Dough ball size, fermentation, and pizza technique
01:34:00 – Jeremy’s culinary school experience and career path
01:35:42 – Breaking down how their pizza bakes in the oven
01:50:24 – Reflecting on making over 20,000 pizzas and building a community
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Topic:
pizza pop up, pizza pop up business, pizza pop up restaurant, starting a pizza business, pizza business blueprint, how to start a pizzeria, pizzeria startup costs, restaurant startup without rent, pizza entrepreneurship, pizza business model, commissary kitchen pizza, pop up restaurant business, brewery pop up food, pizza brand building, pizzeria marketing, pizza business tips, pizza entrepreneur story, award winning pizza
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Thundefan1984 2026/09/28
Pretty bad audio
Listening to you chew and wipe your face for the first 15 minutes slowly made me want to claw my ears out of my skull.
Pizzadude87 2025/11/16
Such an educational experience for anyone interested in the pizza game
Every time I listen to this show, I learned something.
Chess newby 2025/01/16
Good content, terrible audio balancing
Listened to one episode, audio is very unbalanced. 80% of the time the audio is too quiet so I have to turn up the audio. Then 20% of the time they ar...
Zarboni 2023/08/01
Just what I was looking for
I am in the same boat. I am thinking about becoming a Pizzaiolo. I am currently working on my dough and sauce and would love to open my own pizza sh...
alecksjaycubs 2023/05/17
Love this pizza podcast!
Been listening since the pandemic and still love it. Eidref brings a different spin to the pizza podcast world that is incredible. He hits the technic...
Drew B - Market Pizza 2023/05/16
Totally Great Though
Ive listened to about 80-90% of this Show.
Eidref is Excellent. He really knows how to pull quality info out of his guests. His interviews are Great ...
whalez2 2023/05/03
Inspiring
Thank you for your positive energy! You do a great job of tapping into your guests mindset.
littlezerlina 2023/03/26
Excellent
Much more than just a pizza podcast… passion, joy and love in every slice. Very inspiring, THANK YOU!
Steviegraves13 2023/03/14
Addicted
I am looking to venture into the pizza world and stumbled on this podcast. I am hooked on this podcast. The host is great, the topics are on point, an...
A Slice of New Jersey 2023/02/11
The Best!
Love the passion, curiosity, and love that goes into this podcast! As a pizza food truck owner, I’ve learned so much valuable information from ‘What’s...
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