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Doug McIntyre tells how Jack Klugman brought him from a New York ad agency to Hollywood, and the one move that finally got The Odd Couple star to say yes. From Full House and Married with Children to 25 years on KABC radio, it all leads to his novel Frank's Shadow, out now in hardcover, paperback and audiobook at Amazon and Barnes & Noble, with signed copies at dougmcintyre.com. Show Highlights: The Full House writers' room. Behind the sweetest show on ABC's TGIF lineup sat a room Doug McIntyre describes in terms the hug at the end of every episode never hinted at. One script off the pile. How Doug McIntyre landed Knight & Daye with Lowell Ganz and Babaloo Mandel comes down to a secretary's lunch and a stack of scripts as high as her desk. Webster and Alex Karras. The trick a director pulled to get one smile out of Alex Karras, and why Doug McIntyre says today's writers never get to learn it. Frank's Shadow. The night Frank Sinatra died and the Seinfeld finale aired became a novel about a son who knew everything about Sinatra and almost nothing about his own father. You're going to love my conversation with Doug McIntyre Website Get Frank's Shadow Facebook Instagram Follow Jeff Dwoskin (host): Jeff Dwoskin on Twitter The Jeff Dwoskin Show podcast on Twitter Podcast website Podcast on Instagram Subscribe to my Youtube channel Yes, the show used to be called Live from Detroit: The Jeff Dwoskin Show Ways to support the show: Buy me a coffee (support the show) Dashery/TeePublic Store: Classic Conversations merch and more! Love the books I talk about on the show? Here is my Amazon store to shop. SPONSOR: STAMPEDE SOCIAL Drive engagement from your social channels and podcast with Stampede Social's Instagram and Facebook DM automation! Visit https://stampede.social Also check out: Why Instagram + Stampede Social Is the Growth Strategy Podcasters Need in 2025 (and Beyond) Thanks for checking out Classic Conversations! Dive into pop culture nostalgia with comedian Jeff Dwoskin as he hosts the best TV and film interviews. Hear inspiring stories from actors, comedians, musicians, and pop culture icons about the road to success. Part comedy, part drama—always entertaining. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Phil Morris tells the story of how he ended up cast as his own father's character, Barney Collier, in the 1988 Mission: Impossible revival, with his uncle Peter Graves back as Jim Phelps. Four decades of TV orbit that story, from Jackie Chiles on Seinfeld to Martian Manhunter on Smallville, and it all lands on his current work on CBS's Fire Country and Netflix's The Upshaws. Show Highlights: Jackie Chiles. Phil Morris went through a pre-read field that included Michael Dorn and Ted Lange before reading for Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David, and one thing Jerry did in the room told him he had it. Star Trek III and Leonard Nimoy. Leonard Nimoy hired Phil Morris for The Search for Spock, and what Nimoy said to him years later at a Star Trek convention still gets him. Smallville's Martian Manhunter. A lifelong comic book collector explains why J'onn J'onzz clicked for him and why Smallville worked by keeping Clark and Lex human first. Phineas and Ferb. A lost-in-the-hallway moment at Disney with co-creator Jeff "Swampy" Marsh became Phil Morris's model for how he wants to run a set someday. You're going to love my conversation with Phil Morris IMDB Instagram Follow Jeff Dwoskin (host): Jeff Dwoskin on Twitter The Jeff Dwoskin Show podcast on Twitter Podcast website Podcast on Instagram Subscribe to my Youtube channel Yes, the show used to be called Live from Detroit: The Jeff Dwoskin Show Ways to support the show: Buy me a coffee (support the show) Dashery/TeePublic Store: Classic Conversations merch and more! Love the books I talk about on the show? Here is my Amazon store to shop. SPONSOR: STAMPEDE SOCIAL Drive engagement from your social channels and podcast with Stampede Social's Instagram and Facebook DM automation! Visit https://stampede.social Also check out: Why Instagram + Stampede Social Is the Growth Strategy Podcasters Need in 2025 (and Beyond) Thanks for checking out Classic Conversations! Dive into pop culture nostalgia with comedian Jeff Dwoskin as he hosts the best TV and film interviews. Hear inspiring stories from actors, comedians, musicians, and pop culture icons about the road to success. Part comedy, part drama—always entertaining. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Dick Van Dyke Show turns 65, and historian David Van Deusen celebrates with stories from three decades inside the Petrie living room, from the pilot that aired the day before he was born to Carl Reiner's reunion set. His new interactive book, From Fandom to Friendships: My Adventures with The Dick Van Dyke Show Cast, puts never-heard cast interviews one QR code away. Show Highlights: The 159th episode. Carl Reiner picks up the phone in 2004 and invites David Van Deusen to the closed set of The Dick Van Dyke Show Revisited, and the reason behind it caught him off guard. Rose Marie. A celebrity address book at the library leads to Rose Marie, Morey Amsterdam's home number, and the real answer on that Mary Tyler Moore feud rumor. The ottoman. Director John Rich had somewhere to be the night the season two opening was shot, and nobody guessed viewers would start betting on it. Saving season one. CBS had The Dick Van Dyke Show canceled against Perry Como until Sheldon Leonard got on a plane to the Midwest. Alan Brady's desk. Larry Mathews walks into a Danny Thomas Productions storage room and recognizes a piece of TV history. You're going to love my conversation with David Van Deusen IMDB YouTube Facebook Group Instagram Also on YouTube 60th Anniversary Dick Van Dyke Documentary Walnut Times website To Twilo and Beyond (book) From Fandom to Friendships (book) Follow Jeff Dwoskin (host): Jeff Dwoskin on Twitter The Jeff Dwoskin Show podcast on Twitter Podcast website Podcast on Instagram Subscribe to my Youtube channel Yes, the show used to be called Live from Detroit: The Jeff Dwoskin Show Ways to support the show: Buy me a coffee (support the show) Dashery/TeePublic Store: Classic Conversations merch and more! Love the books I talk about on the show? Here is my Amazon store to shop. SPONSOR: STAMPEDE SOCIAL Drive engagement from your social channels and podcast with Stampede Social's Instagram and Facebook DM automation! Visit https://stampede.social Also check out: Why Instagram + Stampede Social Is the Growth Strategy Podcasters Need in 2025 (and Beyond) Thanks for checking out Classic Conversations! Dive into pop culture nostalgia with comedian Jeff Dwoskin as he hosts the best TV and film interviews. Hear inspiring stories from actors, comedians, musicians, and pop culture icons about the road to success. Part comedy, part drama—always entertaining. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ari Lehman, the first Jason Voorhees, tells the story behind the Friday the 13th ending that almost never existed, and what Sean S. Cunningham whispered to a 14 year old kid right before he went under the water at Camp Crystal Lake. From a soccer movie audition to Tom Savini's makeup chair to the brotherhood of actors who followed him in the role, it all leads to Into the Fray, the new First Jason horror metal album on CDN Records featuring Harry Manfredini, streaming now on Spotify and YouTube. Show Highlights: Tom Savini's mirror reveal. At four in the morning in Blairstown, New Jersey, Tom Savini and Taso Stavrakis spun the barber chair around, and Ari Lehman's first reaction to his own face was not what anyone expected. Getting into character with Kevin Bacon. Kevin Bacon found a 14 year old Ari Lehman staring into the lake between takes, and his reaction pulled Harry Crosby into the moment. Crystal Lake on Peacock. Ari Lehman weighs in on A24's prequel series with Linda Cardellini as Pamela Voorhees and Callum Vinson as young Jason, and the timeline choice that shakes up the canon. The Jason brotherhood. Richard Brooker, Ted White, C.J. Graham, Kane Hodder, Ken Kirzinger and Derek Mears, and the role Ari Lehman ended up playing among the giants. Into the Fray. What Harry Manfredini sent to Ari Lehman's inbox turned the new First Jason album into something Ari calls the Dark Side of the Moon of horror. You're going to love my conversation with Ari Lehman IMDB Ari's website Listen to Ari's band Instagram YouTube Follow Jeff Dwoskin (host): Jeff Dwoskin on Twitter The Jeff Dwoskin Show podcast on Twitter Podcast website Podcast on Instagram Subscribe to my Youtube channel Yes, the show used to be called Live from Detroit: The Jeff Dwoskin Show Ways to support the show: Buy me a coffee (support the show) Dashery/TeePublic Store: Classic Conversations merch and more! Love the books I talk about on the show? Here is my Amazon store to shop. SPONSOR: STAMPEDE SOCIAL Drive engagement from your social channels and podcast with Stampede Social's Instagram and Facebook DM automation! Visit https://stampede.social Also check out: Why Instagram + Stampede Social Is the Growth Strategy Podcasters Need in 2025 (and Beyond) Thanks for checking out Classic Conversations! Dive into pop culture nostalgia with comedian Jeff Dwoskin as he hosts the best TV and film interviews. Hear inspiring stories from actors, comedians, musicians, and pop culture icons about the road to success. Part comedy, part drama—always entertaining. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Dylan Brody tells the story of the phone call he got from George Carlin, the one he performed at Kelly Carlin's tribute to her father at the New York Public Library. Four decades of comedy around it, from a 1989 Fox debut to his award winning solo special, Dylan Brody's Driving Hollywood, streaming now on Amazon Prime and NextUp Comedy. Show Highlights: The George Carlin phone call. The story at the center of the episode, and the one Dylan performed at the Carlin tribute. The New York Public Library tribute. Kelly Carlin, Tony Hendra, Louis C.K., Lewis Lapham, and four words from Whoopi Goldberg into a live microphone. Comedy on the Road with John Byner. A&E wanted airline food jokes for his first national set, Dylan wanted a poem about censorship. The Tonight Show showcase. Six political minutes for Johnny Carson's booker Jim McCawley at twenty two, undone by one question on the way out. Dylan Brody's Driving Hollywood. Three specials in one night at the David Henry Hwang Theater, then Chicago, Barcelona, London and the PIT. Throwback episode - originally recorded 2021 You're going to love my conversation with Dylan Brody Dylan's website YouTube Active Voice Productions Driving Hollywood IMDB Instagram Follow Jeff Dwoskin (host): Jeff Dwoskin on Twitter The Jeff Dwoskin Show podcast on Twitter Podcast website Podcast on Instagram Subscribe to my Youtube channel Yes, the show used to be called Live from Detroit: The Jeff Dwoskin Show Ways to support the show: Buy me a coffee (support the show) Dashery/TeePublic Store: Classic Conversations merch and more! Love the books I talk about on the show? Here is my Amazon store to shop. SPONSOR: STAMPEDE SOCIAL Drive engagement from your social channels and podcast with Stampede Social's Instagram and Facebook DM automation! Visit https://stampede.social Also check out: Why Instagram + Stampede Social Is the Growth Strategy Podcasters Need in 2025 (and Beyond) Thanks for checking out Classic Conversations! Dive into pop culture nostalgia with comedian Jeff Dwoskin as he hosts the best TV and film interviews. Hear inspiring stories from actors, comedians, musicians, and pop culture icons about the road to success. Part comedy, part drama—always entertaining. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Comedian, podcaster and actor Jackie Kashian has been doing stand up since 1984, when she got thrown out of a Madison, Wisconsin comedy club for heckling Sam Kinison and came back three weeks later for the open mic. She talks about featuring for Brian Regan and Maria Bamford, playing an airport cop on the final season of Murphy Brown, the year Mark Ridley's Comedy Castle told her she was too much like Kathleen Madigan to book, and why watching Jay Leno do two word perfect sets in 1987 rewired how she thought about the job. She also digs into The Dork Forest, the podcast she has been making since 2006, where the whole point is letting somebody talk for an hour about sandcastles, Rummikub or the size of A4 paper. Throwback episode - originally recorded 2021 Show Highlights: The Dork Forest. Jackie Kashian has been recording her interview podcast since 2006 and has close to 700 episodes in the archive, all built on one idea: an hour of somebody explaining the thing they love most. Guests have walked her through Remember the Titans beat by beat, Star Trek, Marvel comics, and competitive sandcastle building. The Jackie and Laurie Show. Her weekly show with Laurie Kilmartin lives on the Maximum Fun network, and unlike The Dork Forest it is not evergreen, which means it gets recorded wherever she is, including one episode whispered into a laptop at a Kinko's in Milwaukee. Murphy Brown. She played an airport cop on the 1998 final season and calls it typecasting, and she is honest that acting is a learned skill she has never formally learned. Featuring for Brian Regan and Maria Bamford. These are the only two headliners she opens for now, and the reason is simple: it means she gets to watch Brian Regan and Maria Bamford every night. Getting started in 1984. At 19 she got drunk in the front row of a club owned by Bill Kinison and heckled Sam Kinison, years before the Letterman and Rodney Dangerfield appearances broke him nationally. The manager told her open mic was on Sunday. You're going to love my conversation with Jackie Kashian Jackie's website Instagram The Dork Forest YouTube IMDB Jackie's Merch Follow Jeff Dwoskin (host): Jeff Dwoskin on Twitter The Jeff Dwoskin Show podcast on Twitter Podcast website Podcast on Instagram Subscribe to my Youtube channel Yes, the show used to be called Live from Detroit: The Jeff Dwoskin Show Ways to support the show: Buy me a coffee (support the show) Dashery/TeePublic Store: Classic Conversations merch and more! Love the books I talk about on the show? Here is my Amazon store to shop. SPONSOR: STAMPEDE SOCIAL Drive engagement from your social channels and podcast with Stampede Social's Instagram and Facebook DM automation! Visit https://stampede.social Also check out: Why Instagram + Stampede Social Is the Growth Strategy Podcasters Need in 2025 (and Beyond) Thanks for checking out Classic Conversations! Dive into pop culture nostalgia with comedian Jeff Dwoskin as he hosts the best TV and film interviews. Hear inspiring stories from actors, comedians, musicians, and pop culture icons about the road to success. Part comedy, part drama—always entertaining. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Rhonda Shear hosted more than 400 episodes of Up All Night on USA Network from 1991 to 1998, and she is one of the only hosts from that era who still owns the name. She talks about the Happy Days incident with Henry Winkler that got her blackballed from every Paramount sitcom at 23, the one line in Spaceballs that Mel Brooks cast her in himself, opening for Robin Williams at the Holy City Zoo, and how a Playboy pictorial where she kept all her clothes on cost her a pageant crown and made headlines around the world. She also explains how a warehouse in Tampa became the studio where she is producing brand new Up All Night episodes today, funded by the bra and panty company she built with her husband. Show Highlights: Up All Night on USA Network. Rhonda Shear hosted the show from 1991 to 1998 and estimates she has 400 plus episodes, but USA destroyed the masters when the network sold, taking a decade of Gilbert Gottfried material with them. Spaceballs. Mel Brooks personally auditioned every tiny role, told her he wanted a blonde for the diner waitress, and hired her anyway when she offered to wear a wig. She has one line and gets asked about it more than anything else she has done. Chuck Barris. She did The Gong Show, The Dating Game, the $1.98 Beauty Show, and a Barris pilot called Comedy Courtroom, and argues he was doing reality television decades before anyone called it that. The pageant scandal. Her $1.98 Beauty Show appearance aired in the middle of the Miss Torrance pageant she was leading, the judges said she was mocking the pageant system, and she finished first runner up instead of advancing toward Miss America. Playboy and the Floral Trail. Her 1977 Girls of the New South pictorial was shot fully clothed in antebellum dress at New Orleans plantations by photographer David Chan, and the Floral Trail Society stripped her of her queen title over it anyway. Stand up in the 1980s. She worked the Improv, the Laugh Factory, and the Comedy Store, introduced Robin Williams at the Holy City Zoo and effectively became his opening act, and pitched Jamie Masada on a women of comedy night she booked and filled herself. You're going to love my conversation with Rhonda Shear IMDB Up all Night Network Rhonda's Book Instagram YouTube Follow Jeff Dwoskin (host): Jeff Dwoskin on Twitter The Jeff Dwoskin Show podcast on Twitter Podcast website Podcast on Instagram Subscribe to my Youtube channel Yes, the show used to be called Live from Detroit: The Jeff Dwoskin Show Ways to support the show: Buy me a coffee (support the show) Dashery/TeePublic Store: Classic Conversations merch and more! Love the books I talk about on the show? Here is my Amazon store to shop. SPONSOR: STAMPEDE SOCIAL Drive engagement from your social channels and podcast with Stampede Social's Instagram and Facebook DM automation! Visit https://stampede.social Also check out: Why Instagram + Stampede Social Is the Growth Strategy Podcasters Need in 2025 (and Beyond) Thanks for checking out Classic Conversations! Dive into pop culture nostalgia with comedian Jeff Dwoskin as he hosts the best TV and film interviews. Hear inspiring stories from actors, comedians, musicians, and pop culture icons about the road to success. Part comedy, part drama—always entertaining. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Rebeca Arthur was hired for one week on Perfect Strangers and stayed eight years. Before that she was a working private investigator in New York, and one of her agency's cases was Robert Durst. She talks about playing Mary Anne Spencer opposite Bronson Pinchot's Balki Bartokomous, photocopying her own backside for Scrooged, improvising with Bill Murray, getting career advice from Bob Newhart at a table read, and the dog who got a SAG paycheck out of Match Game. Forty years after Perfect Strangers premiered, she is still working, still funny, and still friends with almost everyone she has ever worked with. Show Highlights: Perfect Strangers. Rebeca Arthur auditioned for Jennifer, read the Mary Anne sides on the back page, and told the casting director she wanted the other part instead. The one week guest spot turned into eight years, and she and Melanie Wilson were on the phone with each other, using call waiting, when the calls came in telling them they were coming back. Private investigator years. She could not get a waitressing job in New York, so she answered an ad, was told she would never make it as a PI because she was too noticeable, and immediately decided that was the job she wanted. She worked cases for three years while finishing school. The Robert Durst case. Her agency was hired by Durst after his wife Kathie went missing, but only to field the tips coming in off his reward offer, never to look for her. Her boss Jerry kept telling the staff their hands were tied while Kathie's own family called the office demanding answers. Scrooged. A production assistant walked her down to an office to photocopy her rear end for the film, and yes, it was actually hers. Bill Murray built the whole scene with her on the spot, kept forgetting what he had just improvised, and had her feed his own lines back to him between takes. Newhart. Bob Newhart lowered his newspaper at a table read, listened to her worry about a prop gun in a play she was doing, and told her to walk to the phone right then and quit. She calls him one of the most generous actors she ever worked with. You're going to love my conversation with Rebeca Arthur IMDB Instagram Cabi store Follow Jeff Dwoskin (host): Jeff Dwoskin on Twitter The Jeff Dwoskin Show podcast on Twitter Podcast website Podcast on Instagram Subscribe to my Youtube channel Yes, the show used to be called Live from Detroit: The Jeff Dwoskin Show Ways to support the show: Buy me a coffee (support the show) Dashery/TeePublic Store: Classic Conversations merch and more! Love the books I talk about on the show? Here is my Amazon store to shop. SPONSOR: STAMPEDE SOCIAL Drive engagement from your social channels and podcast with Stampede Social's Instagram and Facebook DM automation! Visit https://stampede.social Also check out: Why Instagram + Stampede Social Is the Growth Strategy Podcasters Need in 2025 (and Beyond) Thanks for checking out Classic Conversations! Dive into pop culture nostalgia with comedian Jeff Dwoskin as he hosts the best TV and film interviews. Hear inspiring stories from actors, comedians, musicians, and pop culture icons about the road to success. Part comedy, part drama—always entertaining. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Thirty years after the last shot was fired, the bank robber and the FBI agent who chased him are sitting down together. Steve Meyers helped Scott Scurlock pull off the Hollywood Bandit crime spree that hit 19 Seattle banks and took roughly $2.3 million between 1992 and 1996. Shawn Johnson was the FBI case agent who spent four and a half years hunting them. Both appear in the Netflix documentary How to Rob a Bank, and both say the film left out the story that actually matters, which is why they reconnected, why they are now friends, and what really happened on Thanksgiving Eve 1996. Show Highlights: How to Rob a Bank (Netflix). Steve Meyers and Shawn Johnson break down what the documentary got right, what it padded with filler, and why the cartoon reenactments were lifted from Steve's unpublished manuscript without credit. The Treehouse. Steve wrote the book in his first year and a half in prison as stream of consciousness, then edited it down over the years, and Shawn says reading it put him back inside the case with details he never knew as the lead agent. The reunion. Shawn tracked down Steve's phone number after the Netflix release, then drove the friendship forward after reading the book, and Steve brought the original prison manuscript to Virginia for a four day sit down last November. Scott Scurlock, aka Hollywood. Steve describes the man behind the disguise as a chameleon with a different personality for everyone, a builder and volunteer wildland firefighter who studied FBI journals to learn why other bank robbers failed. The lawsuit nobody talks about. Six months after the shootout, Detective Mike Magan and four other officers sued Scurlock's parents for $250,000 apiece for trauma, and Steve calls it the strangest footnote in the entire case. You're going to love my conversation with Steve Meyers and Shawn Johnson IMDB - How to Rob A Bank The Treehouse (book) Follow Jeff Dwoskin (host): Jeff Dwoskin on Twitter The Jeff Dwoskin Show podcast on Twitter Podcast website Podcast on Instagram Subscribe to my Youtube channel Yes, the show used to be called Live from Detroit: The Jeff Dwoskin Show Ways to support the show: Buy me a coffee (support the show) Dashery/TeePublic Store: Classic Conversations merch and more! Love the books I talk about on the show? Here is my Amazon store to shop. SPONSOR: STAMPEDE SOCIAL Drive engagement from your social channels and podcast with Stampede Social's Instagram and Facebook DM automation! Visit https://stampede.social Also check out: Why Instagram + Stampede Social Is the Growth Strategy Podcasters Need in 2025 (and Beyond) Thanks for checking out Classic Conversations! Dive into pop culture nostalgia with comedian Jeff Dwoskin as he hosts the best TV and film interviews. Hear inspiring stories from actors, comedians, musicians, and pop culture icons about the road to success. Part comedy, part drama—always entertaining. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Douglas M. Wilson has been in the room for some of the strangest and most memorable television of the last thirty years. A four time Emmy nominee, he went from being an assistant at MTV to the Comedy Channel, then spent the better part of a decade on Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher, rising from associate producer to showrunner. From there he built an entire second career in unscripted television with LA Ink, The Pickup Artist, American Inventor, Best Week Ever and Paris Hilton's My New BFF. He breaks down how the Politically Incorrect panel was engineered, why Bill Maher was far kinder than his on air reputation suggests, and why he believes a bad profit deal, not the 9/11 comments, is what actually killed the show at ABC. Show Highlights: Buffalo and Broadway. He grew up flying to New York for weekends of four and five shows, directed A Day in Hollywood and A Night in the Ukraine in college, and walked away from theater directing once he did the math on a decade of apprenticing for free. The Comedy Channel. His first television job was as Janet Scardino's assistant at MTV, and he left for the Comedy Channel, an office full of comedians where he worked on Night After Night with Allan Havey, The Higgins Boys and Gruber and Rachel Sweet's show. Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher. Scott Carter brought him on as an associate producer and he left in 2000 as showrunner, and he lays out the four chair formula behind every panel, why John Waters was the best guest they ever had and musicians the worst, and how generous Bill Maher was about his work despite agreeing on almost nothing personal. He blames an ABC demand for Tom Cruise, not the 9/11 comments, for the end of the show. 20th Television and Best Week Ever. A two year overall deal produced four shows total, and the Best Week Ever pilot he built and called in every favor for was taken away from him when VH1 moved production to New York. The Eyes of Nye. He spent a stretch commuting to Seattle to work with Bill Nye, who he calls the genuine article, a host who would not let anything scientifically wrong get on the air. The Pickup Artist. He cast men who genuinely could not talk to a woman, which turned Mystery's seduction series into a show about making a real connection, and he is proudest that couples ended up watching it together. American Inventor. A short run with Simon Cowell's Syco and showrunner Clay Newbill, where he ran the studio episodes and found the format flawed, closer to a pitch competition than the invention challenge the title promised. LA Ink. He read several books on tattoo culture before taking the job, worked with Kat Von D, Corey Miller, Hannah Aitchison and Kim Saigh, got tattooed by Kat Von D on live Fox 11 news, and watched TLC's push for personal drama drive the original artists out. Paris Hilton's My New BFF. He kept his distance by design and handed the relationship to a younger producer, and he describes a human chain on a Tokyo rooftop to hold back fans plus a final elimination twist that is genuinely ruthless. You're going to love my conversation with Douglas M. Wilson IMDB Follow Jeff Dwoskin (host): Jeff Dwoskin on Twitter The Jeff Dwoskin Show podcast on Twitter Podcast website Podcast on Instagram Subscribe to my Youtube channel Yes, the show used to be called Live from Detroit: The Jeff Dwoskin Show Ways to support the show: Buy me a coffee (support the show) Dashery/TeePublic Store: Classic Conversations merch and more! Love the books I talk about on the show? Here is my Amazon store to shop. SPONSOR: STAMPEDE SOCIAL Drive engagement from your social channels and podcast with Stampede Social's Instagram and Facebook DM automation! Visit https://stampede.social Also check out: Why Instagram + Stampede Social Is the Growth Strategy Podcasters Need in 2025 (and Beyond) Thanks for checking out Classic Conversations! Dive into pop culture nostalgia with comedian Jeff Dwoskin as he hosts the best TV and film interviews. Hear inspiring stories from actors, comedians, musicians, and pop culture icons about the road to success. Part comedy, part drama—always entertaining. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Bob Gunton has spent five decades building one of the most quietly essential careers in American acting, from originating Juan Perón in the first Broadway production of Evita to becoming the face of institutional evil as Warden Norton in The Shawshank Redemption. He talks about how a pseudo Spanish accent almost got cut from Evita until Hal Prince intervened, what it took to make Sweeney Todd his own after watching Len Cariou and Angela Lansbury do it upstairs, and the wig audition that landed him Shawshank. He also shares his Vietnam service, the Bronze Star at Firebase Ripcord, and the dog tag that found its way back to him decades later, plus the story behind playing the ghost of Egon Spengler in Ghostbusters Afterlife. Show Highlights: Bob auditioned for Hal Prince in cavalry boots and a three piece suit with his hair slicked back, and when he dropped the Perón accent in rehearsal because nobody else in the Evita cast sounded Hispanic, Prince pulled him aside and told him to put it back in. Working alongside Patti LuPone and Mandy Patinkin in Evita earned him a Tony nomination and a Drama Desk Award, though he values the seven or eight Al Hirschfeld drawings on his wall more, since every one of them has a Nina. His Sweeney Todd revival at Circle in the Square played directly beneath the theater where he had watched Len Cariou and Angela Lansbury, and he reframed the show as a family story rather than a Victorian class parable, with his own wife and daughter sitting in the audience. Sweeney Todd was his last Broadway show, and he explains why climbing that particular Everest made the jukebox musicals that followed impossible to care about, plus how California gave him Follies and On the Twentieth Century opposite Carolee Carmello. He walked into the Elvis Meets Nixon audition in full character with nose plugs and a Nixonian haircut, improvised a bit about Ed Muskie crying in the snow, and had to do the whole thing twice because nobody thought to tape it. Playing Captain Benjamin Maxwell in the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode The Wounded let him sing Minstrel Boy with Colm Meaney and work opposite Brent Spiner, his Big River castmate, in one of Gene Roddenberry's sharpest ethical conundrums. Frank Darabont wanted him for The Shawshank Redemption from the start, but Castle Rock made him camera test opposite Tim Robbins wearing a custom wig, because he was shooting Demolition Man with a shaved head at the time. He wrote a full backstory for Warden Norton for the first time in his career, built around shame and religion, and explains why the movie only works if the warden is the single source of darkness rather than the three wardens in Stephen King's novella. Bill Murray in full Ghostbusters gear was the first thing he saw stepping out of his trailer on a movie he had been told was called Rust City, where he was cast as the dirt farmer, which turned out to be the aged ghost of Egon Spengler. Also discussed: The Perfect Storm and the unsalted Warner Brothers water tank, 61* shot at Detroit's Tiger Stadium with Billy Crystal, The 33 and playing the president of Chile, Argo, Dead Silence, Elvis Meets Nixon with Rick Peters, Morgan Freeman's narration, Ted Turner and the TBS rotation that saved Shawshank, and his finished memoir Or Am I Being Obtuse. You're going to love my conversation with Bob Gunton IMDB Twitter Follow Jeff Dwoskin (host): Jeff Dwoskin on Twitter The Jeff Dwoskin Show podcast on Twitter Podcast website Podcast on Instagram Subscribe to my Youtube channel Yes, the show used to be called Live from Detroit: The Jeff Dwoskin Show Ways to support the show: Buy me a coffee (support the show) Dashery/TeePublic Store: Classic Conversations merch and more! Love the books I talk about on the show? Here is my Amazon store to shop. SPONSOR: STAMPEDE SOCIAL Drive engagement from your social channels and podcast with Stampede Social's Instagram and Facebook DM automation! Visit https://stampede.social Also check out: Why Instagram + Stampede Social Is the Growth Strategy Podcasters Need in 2025 (and Beyond) Thanks for checking out Classic Conversations! Dive into pop culture nostalgia with comedian Jeff Dwoskin as he hosts the best TV and film interviews. Hear inspiring stories from actors, comedians, musicians, and pop culture icons about the road to success. Part comedy, part drama—always entertaining. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

John O'Hurley has spent forty years in television as J. Peterman on Seinfeld, the host of Family Feud and To Tell the Truth, a season one finalist and eventual champion on Dancing with the Stars, and for more than two decades the voice of the National Dog Show every Thanksgiving morning. He talks about landing the Peterman role one day after his own sitcom was canceled, the ten years he spent as a daytime soap opera star on Young and the Restless and All My Children, voicing Mayor Doofenshmirtz on Phineas and Ferb and King Neptune on SpongeBob SquarePants, and the phone call in 2000 that made him a shareholder in the real J. Peterman Company. It is a full tour of a career that touched almost every corner of American television. Show Highlights: The producers handed him an actual J. Peterman catalog and told him to sound like it reads. He describes the voice he found as a 1940s radio drama crossed with a bad Charles Kuralt. Season one of Dancing with the Stars ended in a voting controversy so tangled that ABC ordered the finale run a second time. O'Hurley won the rematch against Kelly Monaco and sent the money to cancer research, where a match from Michael Milken pushed it to nearly a million dollars. The body double hired for his twin brothers storyline in daytime soaps was Chazz Palminteri, who spent his downtime in the dressing room writing A Bronx Tale. He hosted Family Feud for four seasons and explains exactly why he walked away, along with the contestant answer that broke him: name a classic film starting with C, and the man said Sea Biscuit. The National Dog Show exists because NBC Sports executive John Miller rented the Christopher Guest movie Best in Show one weekend and pitched a dog show for the two hour gap between the Macy's parade and football. It now pulls close to 30 million viewers. You're going to love my conversation with John O'Hurley IMDB Twitter Follow Jeff Dwoskin (host): Jeff Dwoskin on Twitter The Jeff Dwoskin Show podcast on Twitter Podcast website Podcast on Instagram Subscribe to my Youtube channel Yes, the show used to be called Live from Detroit: The Jeff Dwoskin Show Ways to support the show: Buy me a coffee (support the show) Dashery/TeePublic Store: Classic Conversations merch and more! Love the books I talk about on the show? Here is my Amazon store to shop. SPONSOR: STAMPEDE SOCIAL Drive engagement from your social channels and podcast with Stampede Social's Instagram and Facebook DM automation! Visit https://stampede.social Also check out: Why Instagram + Stampede Social Is the Growth Strategy Podcasters Need in 2025 (and Beyond) Thanks for checking out Classic Conversations! Dive into pop culture nostalgia with comedian Jeff Dwoskin as he hosts the best TV and film interviews. Hear inspiring stories from actors, comedians, musicians, and pop culture icons about the road to success. Part comedy, part drama—always entertaining. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jack Pesin, co-host of Dark Passengers (the deep-dive Dexter podcast he runs with his wife Diana), joins for a wide-ranging conversation on the Dexter universe, from the original series' peak seasons to the making of Original Sin and Resurrection. Pesin shares how a chance connection with Original Sin producer Robert Lloyd Lewis led to set visits and conversations with creator Clyde Phillips, and digs into the show's most debated question: is Dexter a sociopath, or a product of trauma? The conversation ranges across Harry's Code, the original series finale, New Blood, and a rapid-fire round covering the best kills, the most underrated characters, and whether Dexter's code could survive in 2026. Show Highlights: Two episodes into a brand-new podcast, a message arrived from someone deeply connected to Dexter's biggest new chapter, and it changed everything. Is Dexter a sociopath, or something more complicated? Even the people who created him don't fully agree. There's a very specific rule for watching the Dexter universe in the right order, and skipping it ruins the whole experience. A visit to a set that no longer exists reveals just how close a fan can get before a story disappears for good. A rapid-fire round settles some long-simmering Dexter debates, including whether he should have ever actually gotten caught. You're going to love my conversation with Jack Pesin Dexter: Dark Passengers podcast Instagram Follow Jeff Dwoskin (host): Jeff Dwoskin on Twitter The Jeff Dwoskin Show podcast on Twitter Podcast website Podcast on Instagram Subscribe to my Youtube channel Yes, the show used to be called Live from Detroit: The Jeff Dwoskin Show Ways to support the show: Buy me a coffee (support the show) Dashery/TeePublic Store: Classic Conversations merch and more! Love the books I talk about on the show? Here is my Amazon store to shop. SPONSOR: STAMPEDE SOCIAL Drive engagement from your social channels and podcast with Stampede Social's Instagram and Facebook DM automation! Visit https://stampede.social Also check out: Why Instagram + Stampede Social Is the Growth Strategy Podcasters Need in 2025 (and Beyond) Thanks for checking out Classic Conversations! Dive into pop culture nostalgia with comedian Jeff Dwoskin as he hosts the best TV and film interviews. Hear inspiring stories from actors, comedians, musicians, and pop culture icons about the road to success. Part comedy, part drama—always entertaining. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Some careers you can trace on a shelf of movie posters, and Michael Pressman has one of the great ones. Across forty years he moved from a scrappy Roger Corman debut to a beloved studio sequel he made at twenty-six, then into the Richard Pryor dramas, the Dan Aykroyd comedies, the turtle movie a generation grew up quoting, and a decade of prestige television. Underneath all of it runs a family story about the blacklist, resilience, and learning to make the film you actually want to make. This is a warm, funny, wonderfully candid walk back through the movies and shows that shaped how a lot of us spent our childhoods and late nights on HBO. Show Highlights: One phone call ended a promising television career, and the fifteen years it cost came down to a name printed in the wrong magazine. A god-awful first draft, an agent who refused to hear no, and a last-minute rewrite by a future legend quietly rescued one of the most-loved sequels of the era. A film that flopped, got yanked from theaters after real-life tragedy, then resurfaced decades later in a place almost nobody saw coming. Fifty strangers in one very unlikely American city watched a version of a famous drama that no one else on earth will ever get to see. It takes four different people to make a single one of these iconic characters move on screen, and the breakdown is stranger than you would ever guess. You're going to love my conversation with Michael Pressman Website IMDB Follow Jeff Dwoskin (host): Jeff Dwoskin on Twitter The Jeff Dwoskin Show podcast on Twitter Podcast website Podcast on Instagram Subscribe to my Youtube channel Yes, the show used to be called Live from Detroit: The Jeff Dwoskin Show Ways to support the show: Buy me a coffee (support the show) Dashery/TeePublic Store: Classic Conversations merch and more! Love the books I talk about on the show? Here is my Amazon store to shop. SPONSOR: STAMPEDE SOCIAL Drive engagement from your social channels and podcast with Stampede Social's Instagram and Facebook DM automation! Visit https://stampede.social Also check out: Why Instagram + Stampede Social Is the Growth Strategy Podcasters Need in 2025 (and Beyond) Thanks for checking out Classic Conversations! Dive into pop culture nostalgia with comedian Jeff Dwoskin as he hosts the best TV and film interviews. Hear inspiring stories from actors, comedians, musicians, and pop culture icons about the road to success. Part comedy, part drama—always entertaining. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Chris Hummel packed up his life, loaded a trailer, and drove his band from Mississauga, Ontario to Palm Springs on the bet that the world still needed rock and roll. As the co-founder and frontman of the Dreamboats, the ultimate 50s and 60s band experience, he has taken a for-fun open mic project and turned it into a touring act that has played the Cavern Club in Liverpool, opening parties for major festivals, and stages all across Europe and North America. This conversation gets into how the band came together, why leaning into one clear identity changed everything, and the reality behind a certain televised talent show that did not go the way the cameras made it look. Show Highlights: The reason four guys from Canada decided a California desert city needed rock and roll, and what happened when they got there. Why the jacket nobody else would touch on the discount rack becomes the best thing you own on stage. What really happens when a televised talent show edit turns out to be nothing like the night you actually played. The moment a packed dance floor started bouncing like a trampoline and nearly brought the whole party down with it. How choosing to play the songs almost no one else covers turned into the smartest business decision a band could make. You're going to love my conversation with Chris Hummel thedreamboatsband.com Facebook Instagram YouTube Follow Jeff Dwoskin (host): Jeff Dwoskin on Twitter The Jeff Dwoskin Show podcast on Twitter Podcast website Podcast on Instagram Subscribe to my Youtube channel Yes, the show used to be called Live from Detroit: The Jeff Dwoskin Show Ways to support the show: Buy me a coffee (support the show) Dashery/TeePublic Store: Classic Conversations merch and more! Love the books I talk about on the show? Here is my Amazon store to shop. SPONSOR: STAMPEDE SOCIAL Drive engagement from your social channels and podcast with Stampede Social's Instagram and Facebook DM automation! Visit https://stampede.social Also check out: Why Instagram + Stampede Social Is the Growth Strategy Podcasters Need in 2025 (and Beyond) Thanks for checking out Classic Conversations! Dive into pop culture nostalgia with comedian Jeff Dwoskin as he hosts the best TV and film interviews. Hear inspiring stories from actors, comedians, musicians, and pop culture icons about the road to success. Part comedy, part drama—always entertaining. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.