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One Lane Bridge (Isabelle Roughol)Explicit
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2020/06/10
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2026/05/18
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Borderline is a podcast for defiant global citizens covering geopolitics, immigration and lives that straddle borders, with host Isabelle Roughol.
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History's super confused ideas about women's sex lives, with Kate Lister
2026/05/18
Discover my new show, Broad History. It's about the history you think you know – with women in it this time. Find it wherever you listen to podcasts and at broadhistory.com.
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Ukraine's other battlefield, with Thierry Cruvellier
2022/05/05
"Ukraine has provided us with, I think, the most striking, the most rapid, the most swift and complete legal offensive or lawfare strategy that has ever been implemented."
In this episode🇺🇦 Ukraine's aggressive lawfare strategy⚖️ International justice finally comes for the West🤐 Why former great powers can't cope with their colonial crimes🇫🇷 Reckoning with the Algerian War🇨🇩 The DR Congo schools us on prosecuting environmental destruction🇨🇴 Transitional justice lessons from Colombia, New Zealand, Scandinavia and more🕊 Restitutions, reparations and truth commissions – justice beyond the courts
Show notes[00:00:16] Intro[00:01:42] "There is a before Ukraine and an after Ukraine"[00:07:18] "Justice has become the third weapon of Ukraine's strategy"[00:11:46] Is lawfare a communication tool?``[00:15:39] The slow wheels of the ICC[00:18:43] Justice gets much more pragmatic at the local level: the example of environmental crimes in the DRC[00:25:52] A renewed interest in justice for indigenous people[00:28:58] Colombia, a case study for all-encompassing transitional justice[00:30:14] Why are some countries better than other at looking into their colonial past?[00:32:26] The restitution of pillaged objects[00:34:28] A generational reckoning with colonial crimes: the French Algerian war[00:40:13] Statues, history vs memory and the new frontline of transitional justice[00:42:53] Outro
🌍 justiceinfo.net 📚 The Master of Confessions, by Thierry Cruvellier. Ecco Press. 2015. Find it here.
🧬 Check out The Guardian's Science Weekly podcast, where I'm executive producer for the next few weeks.
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Jose Antonio Vargas on telling the full, messy story of immigration
2022/04/19
A decade ago, journalist and "American without papers" Jose Antonio Vargas outed himself as an undocumented immigrant in a national magazine. Today he works with Hollywood and TV studios to humanise the immigrant story through pop culture.
In this episode 📺 Trafficking in empathy and the power of story to change minds😢 Why he regrets his mom sending him away to the US 🇺🇸 Reaching America's "moveable middle"💸 How the economic argument for immigration backfired😰 Why progressives abandoned the fight📖 Stories as the last place for nuance and complexity
Show notes[00:00:16] Intro[00:02:27] "Home is where I can do my work"[00:04:05] "Being a journalist is the identity I figured out before all others"[00:05:22] "All definitions are suspect"[00:07:28] "Why is it that only a certain portion of the population gets to be an activist?"[00:09:52] "Legalizing pot is a higher priority than legalizing people"[00:10:33] "Imprisoned by the language we use on immigrants"[00:14:09] "We can call immigrants essential labor, but we don't think of them as essential people"[00:16:16] "Storytelling is trafficking in empathy"[00:18:09] "The only time many white Americans meet a person of color or an immigrant is through the media they consume"[00:24:51] "We work on shows that reach the movable middle"[00:28:23] "We have yet to find some sort of language that talks about how borderless business and money is and how people are still very much, you know, locked up by these borders"[00:32:55] "If I had a say in the matter as a 12 year old, I would have told my mom, don't do that"[00:35:39] "That's the power of story"[00:37:51] "Narrative is not a slice of the pie. It's actually the pan."[00:39:39] "Storytelling is the only place where nuance can happen"[00:42:38] "White is not a country"[00:49:05] "I traded a life of being in the closet as undocumented in limbo to being a public undocumented person whose life is still in limbo"[00:52:46] Outro
Jose Antonio Vargas's works🇺🇸 Define American, a culture change organization that uses the power of narrative to humanize conversations about immigrants.📚 Dear America: Notes of an Undocumented Citizen (2018, Harper Collins). Upcoming: White is Not a Country (2023, Pantheon Books)🎬 Documented: A film by an undocumented American (2014, CNN)🎭 What the Constitution Means to Me, a play by Heidi Schreck (producer)
Works referenced📚 Beloved, Toni Morrison📺 Superstore (NBC)📺 Roswell, New Mexico (CW)🎬 The Lost Daughter (Netflix)🎬 Drive my Car
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Could the hostile environment turn on you? (with Sonita Gale)
2022/03/28
It starts with unauthorised migrants and doesn't end there. Filmmaker Sonita Gale follows professionals, students and British citizens whose lives were upended by the UK's immigration system.
Sonita Gale is the director and executive producer of Hostile, a documentary film about the UK hostile environment, now in cinemas. Show notes[00:00:09] Intro[00:03:54] "The home of my parents is the home of the migrant story."[00:07:29] "A film about the migrant struggle"[00:13:08] "Different experiences, all interlinked by the hostile environment"[00:16:27] "People will start having more empathy, love and understanding"[00:21:04] "Where have you been the last 20 years?"[00:28:30] “I started to question whether that hostile environment is going to turn on me”[00:32:10] Where to see the film[00:33:21] Outro
🌍 www.hostiledocumentary.com🐦 Follow @hostiledoc on Twitter📷 Follow @hostiledoc on Instagram
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The UK's very low bar on Ukrainian refugees, with Colin Yeo
2022/03/01
An emergency podcast with immigration lawyer and founder of freemovement.org Colin Yeo on the British government's bare minimum help to Ukrainian refugees, the gap between pronouncements and practice, and how Europe's own programme is putting Britain to shame. Plus:- the Nationality and Borders bill under scrutiny, - non-white refugees discriminated at the border, - lessons from last summer's Afghanistan promises, and - can we trust the EU long-term on this?
Show notes
[00:00:10] Intro[00:00:42] "Half a million people have fled"[00:03:10] "The UK has done almost nothing"[00:11:01] "The government's been very consistent in being anti-refugee"[00:12:59] "The asylum system is in a really sorry state"[00:15:08] The Nationality and Borders bill[00:18:21] Europe's response is a sharp contrast[00:20:52] International students and other non-white refugees stopped at borders[00:24:53] How you can help[00:26:47] Outro
Colin Yeo is an immigration lawyer, the founder of freemovement.org and author of Welcome to Britain. Follow him on Twitter at @ColinYeo1.
Evacuees from Ukraine seeking free immigration advice or lawyers who want to help can find information and contacts at https://advice-ukraine.co.uk.
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Multiculturalism is a superpower, with Michael Rain
2022/02/23
Show notes[00:00:20] Intro[00:03:22] "A large number of first-generation people"[00:04:54] "Fufu is a far superior lunch"[00:09:09] "It's three identities I'm juggling"[00:11:43] “The tension between the collectivist culture of most of the world and this very individualistic American culture”[00:13:54] "People raised in that context approach the world with a different eye"[00:16:23] "If I was not (multicultural) and I was saying the same things, it would be received much differently"[00:18:27] "You can't be an expert of your own experience"[00:22:05] "The people in charge are worried about everyone else's biases when the core problem is their own"[00:26:04] "The Great Resignation? I was way ahead of that curve"[00:31:08] "This value of humility that I was raised with is outdated"[00:39:42] Outro
Follow Michael Rain on Instagram and on TwitterWatch Michael's TED talkPhoto by Pamela Chen
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[Essay] The burnout crisis is a workload crisis
2022/02/16
Sure, burnout is not *just* about overwork. But it *is* about overwork.
[Essay] We don't need a global news brand. We need a globally literate media.
2022/01/16
Read the essay and find all links at www.isabelleroughol.com.
When New York Times media columnist Ben Smith and Bloomberg CEO Justin Smith quit to start “a new kind of global news media company,” many of us sniggered at the thought that two middle-aged white American men with literally the same last name could be the ones to bring together all of the world’s news consumers. The Smiths may not be the ones to do it. But can anyone create a truly global news source? And most vitally, would there be an audience for it?
I’ve spent my whole career expanding news brands across borders and trying to address audiences as more than just inhabitants of a single nation-state. And I’ve come to this conclusion: We don’t need a global media, we need a globally literate one.
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[Replay] How the UK turned hostile to immigrants, with Colin Yeo
2021/12/23
In 2012, then Home Secretary Theresa May announced the plan: "The aim is to create, here in Britain, a really hostile environment for illegal immigrants." The idea, borrowed from counterterrorism, was to make life so difficult for unwanted visitors that they would give up and go home. Instead, the hostile environment became a policy of systemic discrimination against all immigrants, authorised or not, their British families and any person that could be mistaken for an immigrant. And rather than leaving, many were pushed into illegality by changing rules, long waits and exorbitant fees. Colin Yeo, immigration lawyer, author of Welcome to Britain and founder of freemovement.org, explains how the policy came about and what it's meant for Britons, wannabe Britons and the country's own future.
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[Replay] The end of the American century, with Wade Davis
2021/12/14
A conversation with anthropologist and National Geographic explorer Wade Davis about the unraveling of America. The full-length and unedited interview from September 2020.
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Donald Trump's lingering immigration legacy, with Susan J. Cohen
2021/12/08
Susan J Cohen is an American immigration lawyer who has seen the last few decades of US immigration policy. She talks about the situation Joe Biden has inherited, after Donald Trump changed more than 400 immigration laws, rules and processes; why a record number of arrests has been made at the US Southern border; what is happening in Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala or Haiti that is making people move north; and what the impact of the Trump presidency has been on immigrants, lawyers and activists.
Cohen is the founding partner of the immigration law practice at Boston firm Mintz, an author and a songwriter. In 2017 she was part of a small band of legal minds who fought the so-called "Muslim ban" in court and won a short-lived victory.
📚 Journeys from There to Here: Stories of Immigrant Trials, Triumphs and Contributions. Susan J Cohen, with Steven Taylor. River Grove Books, 2021. Buy it here. (This affiliate link supports Borderline.) 🎶 Beyond the Borders and Looking for the Angels, written by Susan Cohen and performed by students and alumni of the Berklee College of Music in Boston, Massachussetts.
Show notes[00:00:16] Intro[00:01:32] The immigration situation Joe Biden inherited[00:05:21] Title 42 and Remain in Mexico: How the US keeps lawful asylum-seekers at bay[00:08:49] What it's like to wait at the US Southern border[00:12:43] A historical record for arrests at the Southern border[00:15:13] What's happening in Central America and Haiti to push people north[00:18:42] The massive problems we'd need to solve to stem migration flows[00:22:27] Patterns of discrimination and aggression at the border[00:26:58] How the American public feels about immigration[00:29:46] Changing the perception of immigrants
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Busting myths about refugees and Channel crossings, with Daniel Sohege
2021/12/01
Crossing the Channel without preauthorisation is legal, the vast majority of people crossing are rightful asylum seekers and there is no such thing as the "first safe country" rule. Also, there is no queue to wait in or to jump, most people aren't trafficked or smuggled, and only a trickle of the world's refugees arrive in rich countries. Refugee rights consultant Daniel Sohege breaks down the false arguments about asylum seekers making the rounds in media and on Twitter.
Show notes[00:00:22] Intro[00:03:05] Is this a migrant crisis?[00:06:01] Channel crossings are for many the only option. Still, very few take it.[00:07:25] There just isn't a queue to jump to apply for asylum[00:09:43] "First safe country" is a myth[00:11:55] Arriving by boat without pre-authorisation is not illegal[00:12:46] Most border crossings are not arranged by smugglers[00:16:14] Hard border controls can feed smuggling and trafficking businesses[00:19:47] Airlines and other carriers can be fined for unknowingly helping people carry out their legal right to seek asylum[00:21:35] 98% of those people who cross the Channel seek asylum[00:26:22] How French police harasses asylum seekers[00:27:57] What do we prioritise: the border or human life?[00:31:10] There are better ways to spend our countries' money than on draconian border controls[00:33:08] What a better refugee system could look like[00:36:11] Rich nations are not taking their fair share[00:41:43] Outro
🐦 Follow Daniel Sohege at @stand_for_all
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Why we go back to where we come from, with Kamal al-Solaylee
2021/11/24
Immigration isn't a one-way ticket. For many, the homeland calls back. From the Basque region to Israel, Jamaica to Taiwan, Kamal al-Solaylee talks to those who've chosen to make their way home as he plans his own return. Will reality match the fantasy? Why is the call of home so powerful? And what if you're still a foreigner there?
Show notes[00:00:30] Intro[00:01:29] Migration isn't just a one-way ticket[00:05:27] Ghana's Year of Return[00:07:25] Return is big business, politics and emotion all mixed up[00:09:08] Can reality match the fantasy?[00:13:44] Return is not a failure of the immigration journey[00:16:54] The irrational call of the homeland[00:18:48] The pain of feeling like a foreigner at home[00:23:00] The exploitation of nostalgia[00:25:07] Return can feed or soften the edges of nationalism[00:29:14] Whose return is actually wanted?[00:31:12] Deportees, the unwanted returnees[00:35:02] Kamal's own return plans
📚 Return: Why we go back to where we come from. Harper Collins Canada, 2021. Find it here.
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Why mass migration is inevitable, with Parag Khanna
2021/11/11
Climate change and economic inequality are pushing people of the Global South to move north. Countries in the North are depopulating, losing their workforce and their tax base. It shouldn't be that hard to put two and two together and create migration policies that benefit all of humanity. So why won't we?
📚 "Move: The Forces Uprooting Us." Parag Khanna. 2021. Scribner. Buy it here.
Show notes00:00 Intro02:41 We are a migratory species04:57 Domestic migrants are migrants too07:55 Lockdown was actually a massive migration09:35 Reverse migration is also migration11:08 Britain's immigration policy has killed people17:21 A tragic lack of imagination19:22 Three doom scenarios, one hopeful scenario22:35 Not moving is not really an option for billions26:13 There will never be a global migration policy28:59 Could allegiance to the city replace the nation state?31:17 London vs. Britain34:04 Doing away with the outdated passport37:38 We'll do everything wrong before we do it right41:31 Failed nativist policies
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A conversation on (not quite) everything, with Jonn Elledge
2021/10/28
How World War II is a British psychosis. Why we don't talk about empire. French universalism vs. British multiculturalism. How the nation state was made up. And a geopolitical utopia out of Star Trek. A freewheeling conversation with author and journalist Jonn Elledge.
📚 The Compendium of (Not Quite) Everything, by Jonn Elledge. Headline, 2021. Buy it here and support Borderline. 📬 Sign up for the Newsletter of (Not Quite) Everything.🎙 Listen to the Podcast of (Not Quite) Everything.
Show notes00:00 Intro02:52 How one of the world's largest countries dumps its migrants on one of the world's smallest05:25 Insular news and why you may never have heard of Nauru07:12 A worldwide obsession with US news08:34 It's appalling how little we knew or know about the EU10:17 How Brexit gave rise to a pro-EU movement13:00 We're finding geopolitical solutions in Star Trek15:12 The nation-state is such a recent mythology19:46 Countries that think too highly of themselves26:02 How WWII mythology shapes current politics31:31 Poppy season is upon us33:32 Newsletter ad35:02 Could we create a global nation state?37:00 French identity, multiculturalism and things I pretend to be an expert in44:20 Britain stopped showing its best features
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reviewer1AP 2021/08/24
A unique voice telling important stories
I'm a subscriber to Borderline because I am passionate about independent journalism, and I think that Borderline, the community it represents, and Isa...
tjuws 2020/09/29
Thoughtful and topical
Really thoughtful podcast which tells a unique and underrepresented perspective on some very pressing global issues that will shape the way our world ...
SofiaBToldo 2020/06/14
Great show
Compelling approach to a unique conversation
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