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Jordan LipsExplicit
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Date created
2020/06/16
Latest episode
2026/04/14
Average duration
60 min.
Release period
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When it comes to nutrition and training...talking about what's optimal is always fun, but making it practical changes lives. On this show we'll dive deep on all things training, nutrition, and mindset optimization while making sure to drive home the practical and applicable side of things. -JL
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291: Alec Blenis - Hybrid training, movement optimism & the truth about “perfect form”
2026/04/14
Episode Description
In this episode, I sit down with hybrid coach and athlete Alec Blenis to break down what it really means to train for both performance and longevity. We dive into his goal of running a sub-2:30 marathon while maintaining strength, the biggest mistakes people make with running volume, and why “perfect form” might actually be limiting your progress.
We also unpack the concept of movement optimism, why pain doesn’t always mean stop, and how the fitness industry has unintentionally made people more fragile. If you’ve ever worried about technique, injury, or balancing lifting with endurance training, this one will shift how you think about it.
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Guest
Alec Blenis is a hybrid coach and athlete specializing in combining endurance and strength training. He’s been coaching for over a decade and is currently documenting his pursuit of a sub-2:30 marathon while maintaining gym performance.
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What We Cover
0:00 – Intro + hybrid training misconceptions
2:00 – Alec’s background and coaching journey
5:00 – Why Austin is a hub for hybrid athletes
8:20 – The sub-2:30 marathon goal + recent 2:40 PR
11:00 – Overcooking training + bouncing back after a DNF
13:30 – Increasing mileage from ~40 → 70+ miles/week
17:00 – Why the “10% rule” for running is flawed
20:00 – Quality vs quantity in endurance training
23:30 – Why most runners get injured (not overtrained)
26:00 – What “movement optimism” actually means
28:00 – How the fitness industry creates fear around movement
30:30 – Pain during training: should you stop or keep going?
33:00 – Pain monitoring system (practical framework)
38:00 – Why you shouldn’t catastrophize minor injuries
40:00 – When to rest vs when to load
41:30 – “Weird” exercises (Jefferson curls, knees over toes)
44:00 – Risk vs reward in training
48:00 – Is any movement inherently dangerous?
49:30 – RDLs, lumbar flexion, and technique nuance
53:00 – Why technique must be viewed across the full program
56:00 – The problem with chasing “perfect form”
58:00 – Individual anatomy and why cues don’t work for everyone
1:00:00 – What actually matters for hypertrophy and progress
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Connect with Alec
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alecblenis/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/alecblenis
290: Bryan Boorstein - Does your training split actually matter?
2026/04/07
Does your training split actually matter… or are we overthinking it? In this episode, Jordan and Bryan break down the bro split debate, why most training roads lead to the same place, and what actually drives long-term progress. They also dive into the “bulking is dead” conversation, range of motion nuances, and why chasing perfection might be holding you back more than helping.
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Guest 👇🏼
Bryan Boorstein is a coach and founder of Evolved Training Systems as well as the co-founder of Paragon Training. He is known for his practical, experience-driven approach to strength and hypertrophy.
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What We Cover👇🏼
0:00 – Intro + catching up
3:00 – The return of the bro split and why it still works
7:30 – Do different training splits actually lead to different results?
10:00 – Frequency vs volume vs sustainability
15:00 – What people obsess over vs what actually matters
18:00 – The “bulking is dead” debate explained
22:00 – Why a small surplus still matters in practice
26:00 – The most practical way to think about gaining muscle
27:00 – Range of motion: general vs muscle-specific training
30:00 – Squat depth, internal rotation, and quad targeting
34:00 – How much technique cueing actually matters
37:00 – “Analysis paralysis” in training execution
38:00 – The case for being a fitness generalist
43:00 – Strength training vs mobility (and why the line is blurry)
48:00 – What mobility training actually looks like in practice
52:00 – Kids and lifting: how to approach it the right way
57:00 – Letting kids lead vs forcing structure
1:00:00 – Final takeaways on range of motion and training balance
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Connect with Bryan
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bryanboorstein/
Connect with Jordan👇🏼
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jordanlipsfitness/
WOMP Coaching: https://marketplace.trainheroic.com/workout-plan/team/womp-gym-home-bundle?attrib=548099-ig
289 - Dr. Emily Dow: Gut Health, Fueling, and the Truth About Eating Enough
2026/03/30
In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Emily Dow to break down some of the biggest misconceptions in nutrition and fitness right now. We get into why simple advice often falls short, how understanding the “why” can actually improve results, and where most people are getting tripped up with things like gut health, fueling, and eating enough.
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Guest:
Emily Dow is a registered dietitian with a PhD in exercise and nutritional sciences, blending research, coaching, and real-world application to help people better understand how to fuel their bodies.
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What We Cover:
00:00 Why a PhD changes how you think about nutrition and uncertainty08:05 What Emily has changed her mind about including gut health and probiotics16:25 The messy reality of research and why quick recommendations can be misleading24:50 Why explaining the “why” leads to better results than just giving advice30:47 How to balance simplicity with nuance in coaching and content37:01 Why women struggle to build muscle and the importance of eating enough41:46 The real reason “eat more” advice exists even with rising obesity rates47:24 Practical fueling strategies for lifting and cardio---
Connect with Emily:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emilydow_rd/
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Connect with Jordan:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jordanlipsfitness/
WOMP Training: https://marketplace.trainheroic.com/workout-plan/team/womp-gym-home-bundle?attrib=548099-ig
288: Q&A - Beans, bulking, training for strength and longevity, journaling, getting the health benefits of cardio and MORE!
2026/03/23
Where to find me ⬇️
IG: @JordanLipsFitness
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287: Akash Patel - Science vs Policy: The Dietary Guidelines Problem
2026/03/17
The U.S. Dietary Guidelines are supposed to reflect the best available nutrition science… but what happens when the final recommendations don’t match the evidence?
In this episode, I’m joined by Akash Patel to break down how the Dietary Guidelines are created, where they diverged from the scientific report, and what this means for nutrition, public health, and your everyday food choices.
Akash Patel is an MD/MBA student at the University of Miami focused on nutrition, lifestyle medicine, and public health, with a focus on improving nutrition education in healthcare.
What we cover:
12:50 – How the Dietary Guidelines are created (DGAC explained)17:43 – Why most Americans don’t follow the guidelines23:27 – Where the final guidelines diverge from the science34:24 – Issues with the new guidelines (visuals, messaging, contradictions)58:31 – Key differences: plant protein, processed foods, health equity1:19:50 – How U.S. guidelines compare to other countries1:30:25 – Plant vs animal protein and long-term health outcomes1:45:51 – Practical ways to eat more plant proteinConnect with Akash:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/akashpatelKey resources mentioned:
USA Dietary Guidelines
USA Dietary Guidelines Scientific Advisory Committee Executive Summary
List of 56 Recommendations from DGAC to HHS
Misinformation about the dietary guidelines (transparency/conflicts) PMID: 38522617
U.S. population largely does not follow dietary recommendations PMID: 20702750
Greater adherence to HEI and health outcomes PMID: 31529069
U.S. food supply not aligned with recommendations PMID: 25441965
NHS and HPFS studies (fruits/vegetables, physical activity, plant vs animal protein) PMID: 33641343, 41574252, 27479196
286: Ruth Maleski (@ruth_mpower) - Will it ever be enough?
2026/03/09
Where to find Ruth ⬇️
Instagram
Website / Coaching
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Instagram
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285: Andy de Santis (@andytherd) - "Ode to Legumes": Fatty liver, fiber, and what actually matters
2026/02/23
Episode Description 👇🏼
In this episode of WOMP, Jordan sits down with registered dietitian Andy De Santis to break down the real drivers of fatty liver, the underrated power of fiber, and why legumes might be one of the most practical nutrition upgrades most people are missing.
They dig into metabolic health, ultra-processed food nuance, plant vs animal protein, and how to focus on the habits that actually move the needle.
If you want an evidence-based, practical approach to nutrition without the fear-mongering, this episode is for you.
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What You Will Learn👇🏼
• What fatty liver actually is and what drives it
• Why fiber intake is still too low for most people
• The metabolic benefits of legumes
• Plant vs animal protein: what matters most
• Where the ultra-processed food conversation gets oversimplified
• Practical nutrition habits that compound over time
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Timestamps👇🏼
00:00 Intro and welcome
02:10 Andy’s background and nutrition philosophy
05:45 Why Andy focuses on metabolic health
09:30 What is happening in fatty liver
14:50 Biggest drivers of fatty liver risk
20:05 Fiber and metabolic health
24:40 The case for legumes
29:15 Why beans are underutilized
33:50 Protein quality nuance
39:10 Ultra-processed foods discussion
45:25 Practical diet improvements
50:40 Where most people should start
55:30 Rapid-fire nutrition advice
59:10 Where to find Andy
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Connect with Andy👇🏼
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andytherd
Website: https://andytherd.com
Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/andytherd
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andydesantisrd/
Andy De Santis is a registered dietitian known for his practical, evidence-based approach to metabolic health and plant-forward nutrition.
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Connect with Jordan👇🏼
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jordanlipsfitness/
Website: https://jordanlipsfitness.com/
WOMP Coaching: https://marketplace.trainheroic.com/workout-plan/team/womp-gym-home-bundle?attrib=548099-ig
Jordan Lips is the founder of WOMP (Where Optimal Meets Practical), helping busy adults build evidence-based nutrition and training habits that actually stick.
284: Q&A - RMR testing, strength asymmetry, GLP-1s to lose stubborn fat and MORE!!
2026/02/09
Where to find me ⬇️
IG: @JordanLipsFitness
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283: Q&A - HR during lifting, go-to fruits & veg, bulking vs maingaining, and MORE!!
2026/01/22
Where to find me ⬇️
IG: @JordanLipsFitness
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282: My New Year's Resolution - Be mediocre
2026/01/12
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IG: @JordanLipsFitness
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281: Kasey Jo (@coachkaseyjo) - How to set the right goals and be consistent with your habits
2025/12/22
Where to find Kasey ⬇️
Instagram
Health Mindset Coaching Cert
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280: Dealing with low motivation to train
2025/12/08
Where to find me ⬇️
IG: @JordanLipsFitness
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279: Marathon race review - "How it went"
2025/11/30
Where to find me ⬇️
IG: @JordanLipsFitness
Podcast: Where Optimal Meets Practical
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278: Barbie Boules (@the_cognition_dietitian) - Alzheimer's: What is it and how do we reduce risk?
2025/11/19
Links mentioned ⬇️
Lancet 2024 risk factor PDF
My Alzheimer's risk episode
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Where to find Barbie ⬇️
Instagram
Substack
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Podcast
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277: Q&A - Normal BMI with T2D, best and worst fitness takes, how to make tracking less obsessive and MORE
2025/11/13
Links mentioned ⬇️
Fiber podcast
Where to find me ⬇️
IG: @JordanLipsFitness
Podcast: Where Optimal Meets Practical
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WFPB-listener 2026/02/23
Great podcast for those trying to excel at fitness while balancing the rest of their lives
Love the podcast and is highly relevant for those trying to balance their lives while still trying to excel in fitness.
Pro tip for Tofu prep: highl...
Becky198@ 2026/01/15
New Years Episode
Enjoyed listening and it gave me some things to think about!
SAM is usually right 2025/07/09
I like it!
Science based information and how it fits in a real world context. Helpful, realistic, smart, and a likable personality
Katie-and-Matt 2025/04/10
My Favorite Health & Fitness Podcast
Jordan provides incredibly well-researched and practical advice/information about so many different aspects of health and fitness. He’s a go-to trust...
Nygmorcal 2025/02/18
Informative and well balanced
Jordan’s podcast is one of the best in the fitness and nutrition space. His information is evidence based but also informed by practice.
Nicole Agostino 2024/09/29
Excellent education!
Excellent guest speakers & solo episodes, unpacking the latest research & trends of the industry. I learn so much from Jordan!
Plush Ranch Wife 2024/09/25
Episode with Nick Norwitz
Excellent breakdown on LMHR (lean mass hyper responders) and high LDL. When Nick talked over my non scientific head, Jordan put it in a context that t...
FeGalvez 2024/09/21
Fitness Psychologist
Jordan is like a fitness psychologist. He addresses the things we tell ourselves, or commonly held beliefs about fitness and diet culture bringing for...
SarahM223 2024/09/13
Best health fitness pod!
Really enjoy Jordan’s balance of what is “optimal” and “practical”. I appreciate Jordan’s knowledge about the science and evidence but also his abilit...
williambrodner 2024/09/12
One of my favorites!
Jordan is an incredible podcast host who has a talent for giving life-changing lessons. I follow his group programming as well, and it’s great to hear...
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