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Send us a text SPOILER ALERT!!!  ***If you have not seen the film, do not listen to this episode until you do!*** So my friends Grace & Dave went to go see the new Yorgos Lanthimos film, BUGONIA, starring Emma Stone & Jesse Plemons.  Grace really wanted to talk about it & you know Dave is always down for a good chat about aliens so I finally watched the film & this episode is our discussion about it.  I HIGHLY RECOMMEND WATCHING THIS FILM. It's the best I've seen in a while.  Listen now to find out why! BUGONIA TRAILER: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd_5HcTujfc GO SEE QUIVERING LIP & FEED FATIGUE ON TOUR! https://nothingworksrecords.bandcamp.com/album/feed-fatigue-quivering-lip LISTEN TO: DIE SPITZ  - Something To Consume & Teeth WRISTWATCH - III LITTLE SIMZ - Lotus DURAND JONES & THE INDICATIONS - Flowers THE NEW EVES - The New Eve Is Rising BLINDFOLDED & LED TO THE WOODS - The Hardest Part About Being God Is That No One Believes Me ROTTEN SOUND - Mass Extinction NEW WORD OF THE NITE:  coparcenary /ˌkōˈpärs(ə)nˌerē/ noun joint heirship; the status of a coparcener. THE ONE STOP SHOP: https://lostrhetoric.com/ EMAIL: [email protected] BLUESKY: @lostrhetoric.bsky.social INTRO & OUTRO MUSIC BY LEE DANIEL DINGES

Send us a text Dave is back to discuss one of his favorite conspiracy theorists, David Icke (that's IKE not ICKY, thank you)! I personally did not know much about him other than he is way into Reptilians, so this was an enlightening conversation for me.  We gloss over most of his bonkers theories about Hybrid Alien Bloodlines, Reptilian agendas, who is really in control of this mad world, why Princess Di was killed and more!  LISTEN TO DAVE'S BAND! ROYAL MESS - https://royalmess.bandcamp.com/album/2025-demo WHAT I'M LISTENING TO: Primitive Man - Observance Bjork - Debut Radioactivity - Time Won't Bring Me Down Chat Pile & Hayden Pedigo - In The Earth Again Snocaps - s/t Danny Brown - Stardust Emmylou Harris - Wrecking Ball The Blasters - Ultimate Collection Drive-By Truckers - The Definitive Decoration Day Colter Wall - Memories & Empties Home Front - Watch It Die Hot Snakes - EVERY FUCKING ALBUM Bo Diddley - Another Dimension Battalion Of Saints - Discography Parliament - Osmium Orville Peck - Appaloosa Todd Snider  Tom Waits - Closing Time & Swordfishtrombones Gasket - s/t Shaboozey - Lady Wrangler Medium Build - Takeaways T. Rex - Tanx & Zinc Alloy & The Hidden Riders Of Tomorrow NEW WORD OF THE NITE: pres·tis·si·mo /preˈstisəˌmō/ adverb (especially as a direction) in a very quick tempo. "the group of Belgian trombones had five valves that enabled them to play the most florid passages prestissimo" adjective performed at a very quick tempo. "these crescendi make one excited for the prestissimo choruses" noun a movement or passage marked to be performed in a very quick tempo. THE ONE STOP SHOP: https://lostrhetoric.com/ EMAIL: [email protected] BLUESKY: @lostrhetoric.bsky.social INTRO & OUTRO MUSIC BY LEE DANIEL DINGES

Send us a text Raven Riot returns to talk about SHC! I really can't wrap my brain around these cases & I think you'll find them interesting cause there really are no words to explain what happened to these people. The explanations don't add up & we are left with more questions than answers.  What the hell causes these people to burn up into a pile of ashes? I honestly still have no clue. LISTEN TO: Julianna Riolino - Echo In The Dust Jake Kohn - Where Do We Go From Here? (Live From The Barn) They Are Gutting A Body Of Water - LOTTO 84 Tigers - Nothing Ends Joshua Ray Walker - Stuff Militarie Gun - God Save The Gun D'Angelo Ken Pomeroy - Cruel Joke Upchuck Los Bitchos Pestilence - Consvming Impvlse Bolt Thrower - The IVth Crusade Soulfly - Chama Ultra Vivid Scene - S/T Waylon Jennings - Songbird Beach House The Jesus & Mary Chain The Cure Nation Of Language - Dance Called Memory Restraining Order - Future Fortune Higher Power - There's Love In This World If You Want It Kiki Cavazos - Early Mountain Songs NEW WORD OF THE NITE: aquilineadjective aq·​ui·​line ˈa-kwə-ˌlīn -lən 1: curving like an eagle's beak an aquiline nose 2: of, relating to, or resembling an eagle THE ONE STOP SHOP: https://lostrhetoric.com/ EMAIL: [email protected] BLUESKY: @lostrhetoric.bsky.social INTRO & OUTRO MUSIC BY LEE DANIEL DINGES

Send us a text This time around, Renni Pollock, host of COMPANY MOVE joins me to discuss her Hometown nut house, The Peoria State Hospital in Illinois.  Its history is actually one of inspiration & good, ethical treatment during a time when State Hospitals were notorious for basically torturing their patients.  And of course, it's haunted too.  We also discuss the Dammasch State Hospital in Oregon, which has a much more sordid past & downfall but what exists on its former grounds is interesting to say the least.   STEVEX is also back at the end of the episode to give his Denver Airport Update!  FIND COMPANY MOVE WHEREVER YOU LISTEN TO PODCASTS & SUBSCRIBE! HERE'S AN APPLE PODCASTS LINK WITH REVIEWS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/company-move/id1759907650 PEORIA STATE HOSPITAL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFBXSZlwZKw PHOTOS OF ABANDONED DAMMASCH STATE HOSPITAL BEFORE IT WAS DEMOLISHED: http://www.smitheliot.com/dammasch-state-hospital-1 LISTEN TO: Flyte - Between You & Me Margo Price - Hard Headed Woman Deftones - Private Music Dean Johnson - I Hope We Can Still Be Friends Julien Baker & Torres - Send A Prayer My Way DEVO - their whole catalogue IDLES - Caught Stealing Soundtrack Kurt Vile - Classic Love (ep) Folk Bitch Trio - Now Would Be A Good Time Rye Coalition - New Sheriff In Town Primitive Man - Social Contract (single from upcoming album OBSERVANCE) The Consequence - S/T NEW WORD OF THE NITE: MUPPIE acronym for a "middle-aged urban professional", similar to the term "yuppie" but for an older demographic, or it can be a casual, all-purpose word used in Florida slang for "anything" WEBSITE/STORE: https://lostrhetoric.com/ EMAIL: [email protected] BLUESKY: @lostrhetoric.bsky.social INTRO & OUTRO MUSIC BY LEE DANIEL DINGES

Send us a text STEVE X is back to discuss the mysteries behind the DIA, or the Denver International Airport, or DEN, or Illuminati World HQ...whatever you want to call it.  It has underground tunnels, "Apocalyptic" Murals, Masonic time capsules, it was built on a Native American Burial Ground (possibly), its runways form a Swatstika, it has a Demonic Mustang statue that killed the Artist who made it, it has Gargoyles...and more! To top it off, Airport officials have fully embraced the chaos & conspiracies surrounding its existence.  Is it all in good fun or all smoke & mirrors? We don't know! So join us in a spirited conversation about all of this Mile High Madness! A PIECE ABOUT THE MURALS WITH ARTIST LEO TANGUMA: https://www.rmpbs.org/blogs/rocky-mountain-pbs/dia-mural-conspiracies-story THE FUNNIEST VIDEO ABOUT THE CONSPIRACIES I WATCHED. BY SAM REID: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05u20D-clpM LISTEN TO: Jonathan Richman - Only Frozen Sky Anyway Wet Leg - Moisturizer Charley Crockett - A Dollar A Day The Cure - Paris & Live Flawed Mangoes - Anomaly IV Scott Walker - Scott4 Dean Johnson - Nothing For Me, Please The Cult - Love Clipse - Let God Sort Em Out Failure - Comfort, Magnified & Fantastic Planet (also watch the documentary EVERY TIME YOU LOSE MY MIND) The Smiths - Strangeways, Here We Come Tyler Childers - Snipe Hunter Tyler, The Creator - Don't Tap The Glass Gang Of Four  Fugazi Jesse Welles - Pilgrim Loaded Honey - Love Made Trees Lorde - Virgin Joshua Ray Walker - Tropicana Vastum NEW WORD OF THE NITE: lach·ry·mose /ˈlakrəˌmōs/ adjective tearful or given to weeping. FOLLOW ON BLUESKY: lostrhetoric.bsky.social EMAIL: [email protected] VISIT/SHOP: https://lostrhetoric.com/ INTRO & OUTRO MUSIC BY LEE DANIEL DINGES

Send us a text In this, a very special 5 YEAR ANNIVERSARY EPISODE, Jesse Gee returns to talk about Sci Fi Weaponry! Jesse is a Propmaker by trade but also has experience designing weapons & Sci Fi themed art out of junk so not only is he super talented, he is well qualified!  We discuss the history of weapons in Sci Fi, not only how some of the names came about but how they looked & the evolution of their aesthetics.  We dip into the future of what Sci Fi weaponry could look like & also actual weapons that are designed by EVIL NERDS. NERDS!!! CHECK OUT JESSE'S ART: https://www.instagram.com/jessegeearts/?hl=en LISTEN TO: Le Matos - Turbo Kid Soundtrack Electric Youth - North Of Normal Soundtrack Dropdead - S/T 1993 Turnstile - NEVER ENOUGH Cavern of Anti-Matter - In Fabric OST Superheaven - S/T Sierra Ferrell - Long Time Coming DIIV - Return Of Youth Mannequin P***y - I Got Heaven Bonnie Tyler - Natural Force Red Kross - Red Cross Blondshell - If you asked for a Picture PUP - Who Will Look After the Dogs? Cymande - S/T 1972 Bonnie 'Prince' Billy - The Purple Bird BANDS IN GENERAL I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO: Tyler Childers, Velvet, The Police, Pedro The Lion, M83, Flyte, Cranes, Hermanos Gutierrez NEW WORD OF THE NITE: con·dign /kənˈdīn/ (of punishment or retribution) appropriate to the crime or wrongdoing; fitting and deserved. FOLLOW ON BLUESKY: https://bsky.app/profile/lostrhetoric.bsky.social EMAIL: [email protected] https://lostrhetoric.com/ INTRO & OUTRO MUSIC BY LEE DANIEL DINGES

Send us a text HAPPY HALLO-F****N-WEEN! On this episode, Alessandra joins me to talk about all things WITCH & all things MAGIC (jazz hands).  She's had a lifetime of experience being Witchy & trying to navigate through this world using Magic to help make sense of it all.  Since being diagnosed with Stage 4 Ovarian Cancer, she has been leaning on her Witchy ways to get her through the toughest of times.  She's strong, beautiful & awesome in so many ways & she opens up about her fight in this 1 on 1 LIVE conversation we had in the studio.  After the conversation she shares a song she wrote for her husband, Ryan, called "Valkyrie" that is a must listen.  Enjoy! Alessandra played guitar in a band with my Wife called SEI HEXE. They were Witchy as fuck & pure Magic: https://seihexe.bandcamp.com/music LISTEN TO: Amyl & The Sniffers - Cartoon Darkness Snapcase - every album C**k Sparrer - Shock Troops & Rarities Thee Sacred Souls - Got A Story To Tell Immortal Bird - Sin Querencia THE WORST WITCH: https://youtu.be/hUkVcd7SbTw?si=LE9cOShpnxJD83c6 HERE'S A PUNK AS F**K MAGICIAN CAUSE ...FUCK YOU, IT'S MAGIC! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJiUVp890TY YOUR 1 STOP SHOP FOR ALL THINGS LR: https://lostrhetoric.com/ EMAIL ME: [email protected] FOLLOW ME ON IG: https://www.instagram.com/lostrhetoricpodcast/?hl=en INTRO & OUTRO MUSIC BY LEE DANIEL DINGES

Send us a text Artist Hank Simmons joins me to discuss his home state of North Carolina & all of the strange shit that comes with it. We discuss everything from his personal paranormal experiences to The Wampus Cat to Knobby to Mermaids  to some strange lights on a mountain...plus a lot more. After our talk I think it's impossible to leave your house without seeing something weird in the Tarheel State. CHECK OUT HANK & HIS DOINGS: https://www.instagram.com/blood_sermon/?hl=en A SITE TO GET BRIEF DESCRIPTIONS OF THE CREATURES WE DISCUSSED: https://discover.hubpages.com/education/Top-10-Cryptids-Still-Lurking-Around-North-Carolina LISTEN TO: SHOW ME THE BODY - CORPUS II EP II MEDIUM BUILD - COUNTRY THE JESUS LIZARD - RACK LEE FIELDS - SENTIMENTAL FOOL KHRUANGBIN & LEON BRIDGES - TEXAS SUN ENUMCLAW - HOME IN ANOTHER LIFE NAILS - EVERY BRIDGE BURNING X MINUS ONE - here's a link to every episode: https://open.spotify.com/show/78O61LMiU4xv1CrAhnO2Iu?si=ijkXczNpSwSrsDbXmLXIqA NEW WORD OF THE NITE: vi·na·ceous /vīˈnāSHəs,vəˈnāSHəs/ adjective of the color of red wine. WEBSITE/STORE: https://lostrhetoric.com/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/lostrhetoricpodcast/?hl=en EMAIL: [email protected] INTRO & OUTRO MUSIC BY LEE DANIEL DINGES

Send us a text This week JPX & STUNTMAN MIKE take time from running their massive (some would say illegal) empire to talk to me about the LOCH NESS MONSTER.  We know this is well worn & boring territory, but we decided collectively that it was time to finally tell the world the whole truth about Nessie & just end all of the speculation & centuries old arguments.  The truth has arrived. At least our truth, anyway.  Enjoy! LISTEN TO POST RHETORIC (the only OFFICIAL lost rhetoric aftershow): https://podcastaddict.com/podcast/post-rhetoric/3133329 STAY UP ON NESSIE SIGHTINGS: https://www.lochnesssightings.com/ LISTEN TO... JASON'S PICKS: GEL - Persona EP JIMMIE'S CHICKEN SHACK -2econd LOGIC - Ultra 85  THE DARKNESS - Permission To Land THOU - Umbilical AARON FRAZER - Into The Blue ORVILLE PECK - Stampede POST MALONE - F-1 Trillion INDIAN GIVER - Dark Legacy III SHOW ME THE BODY - Corpus II EP I NØ MAN - Glitter & Spit NECROT - Lifeless Birth JOHNNY BLUE SKIES - Passage Du Desir 200 STAB WOUNDS - Manual Manic Procedures MEGAN THEE STALLION - Megan CHARLEY CROCKETT - $10 Cowboy & Visions Of Dallas STUNTMAN MIKE'S PICKS: POISON - Open Up & Say Ahhh... & Look What The Cat Dragged In GUNS 'N' ROSES - Use Your Illusion I & II RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS - Blood Sugar Sex Magik JPX PICKS: EARLY 80s LIVE RECORDINGS OF BLACK FLAG SHOWS NEW WORD OF THE NITE: ludicadjective lu·​dic ˈlü-dik  : of, relating to, or characterized by play : playful VISIT THE WEBSITE/STORE: https://lostrhetoric.com/ FOLLOW ON INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/lostrhetoricpodcast/?hl=en EMAIL FOR SOURCE LIST OR JUST TO CHAT: [email protected] INTRO & OUTRO MUSIC BY LEE DANIEL DINGES

Send us a text Paul returns to delve deeper into his 2 year fight with a succubus! LISTEN TO GODSTOMPER: https://godstomper.bandcamp.com/ CHECK OUT THE MORMOM MINCERS VIDEO PAUL DIRECTED: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb0oqv968uI LISTEN TO: Twin Temple - God Is Dead One Day As A Lion - S/T EP 2008 Daniel Romano - Too Hot To Sleep Hurray For The Riff Raff - The Past Is Still Alive Pissed Jeans - Half Divorced Go Ahead & Die - Unhealthy Mechanisms Thee Sacred Souls - S/T 2022 Jalen Ngonda - Come Around & Love Me Idles - Tangk Bob Marley & The Wailers - Survival Geddy Lee - My Effin' Life VISIT THE WEBSITE/STORE: https://lostrhetoric.com/ FOLLOW ON INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/lostrhetoricpodcast/?hl=en EMAIL FOR SOURCE LIST OR JUST TO CHAT: [email protected] INTRO & OUTRO MUSIC BY LEE DANIEL DINGES

Send us a text Paul Barfo from the almighty GODSTOMPER is back!  This time he starts to tell the story of his ongoing battle with a Succubus, which is as wild as it sounds &  he hopes it's over but time will tell.  Strap in for this one cause it's a doozy & it's only Part 1!  CHECK OUT GODSTOMPER! https://godstomper.bandcamp.com/ CHECK OUT PAUL'S YOUTUBE PAGE! https://www.youtube.com/@godstomper LISTEN TO: Bill Withers Green Day - Saviors Andre 3000 - New Blue Sun Kurt Vile - Back To Moon Beach Danny Brown - Quaranta Xibalba - Aztlan House of Harm - Playground American Analog Set Home Front Dying Fetus - Make them Beg for Death Lemon Twigs - Everything Harmony Leather Lung Mirrormaker - Diminished Capacaties - https://mirrormaker.bandcamp.com/album/diminished-capacities-ep NEW WORD OF THE NITE: des·ul·to·ry /ˈdesəlˌtôrē,dəˈsəltərē/ adjective lacking a plan, purpose, or enthusiasm CONTACT FOR SOURCE INFO OR JUST TO CHAT: [email protected] https://lostrhetoric.com/ https://www.instagram.com/lostrhetoricpodcast/?hl=en INTRO & OUTRO MUSIC by LEE DANIEL DINGES

Send us a text Sarah Crosley is back! This time we discuss some of the most intriguing Cryptids from her home state of Indiana.  We focus mainly on the story of Oscar AKA The Beast Of Busco who, in the late 1940's caused a farmer so much grief that he went bankrupt trying to capture him & eventually sold his farm as a result of his fruitless efforts.  We also dig a bit into the aptly named Crosley Monster, who is also known as Indiana's Bigfoot & we dip our toes into the creepy waters of Puckwudgie lore.  Enjoy! CHECK THIS SITE THAT HAS A COOL DOCUMENTARY ABOUT OSCAR: https://www.cryptidophilia.com/beast-of-busco/ LISTEN TO: Black Pumas: Chronicles of a Diamond Gel: Only Constant Chris Stapleton: Higher The Rolling Stones: Hackney Diamonds Tyler Childers: Rustin' in the Rain Tanya Tucker: While I'm Livin' Miles Miller: Solid Gold Zach Bryan: s/t & Boys of Faith Tristeza: Dream Signals in Full Circles Generacion Suicida: Regeneracion Blondshell: s/t Nation Of Language: A Way Forward & Strange Disciple High Vis: Blending Soft Kill: Metta World Peace NEW WORD OF THE NITE: leptosome. / (ˈlɛptəˌsəʊm) / noun. a person with a small bodily frame and a slender physique. WRITE ME: [email protected] INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/lostrhetoricpodcast/?hl=en WEBSITE: https://lostrhetoric.com/ INTRO & OUTRO MUSIC BY Lee Daniel Dinges

Send us a text The Old Man's family of friends join me to discuss my hero.  R.I.P.  EMAIL: [email protected] INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/lostrhetoricpodcast/?hl=en

Send us a text Dave is back but this time he joined me IN PERSON, LIVE in the studio!  Enjoy our spirited & spirit soaked conversation (squeaky chair be damned) about the music we're listening to (the 1st 30 minutes or so is all music talk...) and the wild story of Jeffrey Alan Lash.  Was he working for the government? Was he an Alien Hybrid here to save the planet? Was he a drug dealer? An arms dealer?  Or was he just a very gifted Con Man?  We give our 2 cents & we hope you enjoy! LISTEN TO...JASON's PICKS: NICK WATERHOUSE: https://www.nickwaterhouse.com/ BOYGENIUS: https://www.xboygeniusx.com/ JPEGMAFIA & DANNY BROWN: https://jpegmafia.bandcamp.com/album/scaring-the-hoes GRANDADDY - SUMDAY: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiqyttt0jUSnzTEe-s9Wr2FDLgZl9UpfI DAVE's PICKS: THE HIRS COLLECTIVE: https://hirs.bandcamp.com/album/were-still-here-2 BOTHERS: https://bothersband.bandcamp.com/ HIGH VIS: https://highvis.bandcamp.com/ TEGAN & SARA: https://teganandsara.com/ POISON RUIN: https://poisonruin.bandcamp.com/album/h-rvest NEW WORD OF THE NITE:  felicificadjective fe·​li·​cif·​ic ˌfē-lə-ˈsi-fik  : causing or intended to cause happiness EMAIL FOR SOURCE LIST OR JUST TO CHAT: [email protected] THE WEBSITE/STORE: https://lostrhetoric.com/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/lostrhetoricpodcast/?hl=en INTRO & OUTRO MUSIC BY LEE DANIEL DINGES

Send us a text This week The Old Man is back to discuss Clifford Stone.  Stone was well known in the Ufology circuit before his death in 2021 & he had many experiences with cleaning up UFO crash sites for the Army.  He wrote an article for UFO Magazine & Phenomena Report in October of 1998 called "Encounter In Vietnam".  I have a personal copy of this issue & the story was too good to not tell to The Old Man.  I naturally dove a bit into Stone's background & we discuss his life in a nutshell as well, so enjoy! CLIFFORD STONE INTERVIEW w/ Paola Harris in 2011: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGaebhIo3rI ARTICLE ABOUT CLIFF WITH VIDEOS: https://alien-ufo-sightings.com/2018/08/57-alien-races-confirmed-us-sergeant-clifford-stone/ LISTEN TO: The War & Treaty - "Lover's Game" https://www.thewarandtreaty.com/releases/lovers-game-album/ Wet Leg https://www.wetlegband.com/ Ssold - "Passionate Horse" https://ssold.bandcamp.com/album/passionate-horse Superheaven - "Ours Is Chrome" https://superheavenband.bandcamp.com/album/ours-is-chrome Soul Blind - "Feel It All Around" https://soulblind.bandcamp.com/album/feel-it-all-around Show Me The Body - "Trouble The Water" https://showmethebody.bandcamp.com/album/trouble-the-water 84 Tigers - "Time In The Lighthouse" https://84tigers.bandcamp.com/album/time-in-the-lighthouse Soul Glo - "Diaspora Problems" https://soulglophl.bandcamp.com/album/diaspora-problems Snack Truck - "Terrer Demo" Elliptical Path - "Resonant Topography" https://ellipticalpath.bandcamp.com/album/resonant-topography Discordance Axis - "The Inalienable Dreamless" https://discordanceaxis.bandcamp.com/album/the-inalienable-dreamless Phoebe Bridgers - "Stranger In The Alps" https://phoebebridgers.bandcamp.com/album/stranger-in-the-alps ONYX - "Bacdafucup" https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPfa-Xy2Tv1nqYcS_ZnfxxQ0IKTM7QLZ4 NEW WORD OF THE NITE: FERITY [ fer-i-tee ] noun a wild, untamed, or uncultivated state. savagery; ferocity. THE 1 STOP SHOP: https://lostrhetoric.com/ EMAIL FOR SOURCE LIST OR JUST TO CHAT:  [email protected] INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/lostrhetoricpodcast/?hl=en INTRO & OUTRO MUSIC BY LEE DANIEL DINGES