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396 episodes
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Susi HatelyExplicit
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Date created
2020/06/24
Latest episode
2026/10/22
Average duration
26 min.
Release period
8 days
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You are a yoga teacher or a health professional who wants to integrate yoga therapeutically. You want a more holistic, biopsychosocial approach to helping your clients heal. You want to empower them to listen and to learn about their bodies. In From Pain to Possibility, Susi Hately, B.Sc. Kinesiology blends modern understanding of anatomy and biomechanics with the ancient wisdom of yoga. This weekly show will share Susi's best ideas from over 25 years of helping her clients reduce and eradicate pain.
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My Turkey Neck and Thoracic Spine | #396
2026/10/22
In this episode, I share a personal three-week movement experiment focused on my thoracic spine, ribcage, and what my kids playfully call my "turkey neck." I unpack how addressing underlying myofascial tension and breathing patterns in the thorax created surprising, systemic changes—from improving neck skin elasticity and posture to setting new personal records in weightlifting and releasing tension in the pelvic floor.
I also dive into the anatomical and biomechanical pathways connecting these seemingly unrelated regions, highlighting Tom Myers' Deep Front and Spiral Lines, the coordinated relationship between the diaphragm and pelvic floor, and the role of the scalenes. Rather than pushing through tension, I invite you to honor physical limitations, listen to subtle bodily cues, and stay curious about how distant parts of the body influence one another.
Intelligence of the Thoracic Spine and Whole Body Integration | #395
2026/10/15
In this episode, I explore the thoracic spine as a vital missing link in addressing distal pain and strain, from the elbow and wrist all the way down to the pelvis. I break down the anatomical connections between the thoracic spine, ribcage, shoulder blade, and arm—explaining how the shoulder acts as a dynamic transfer station and how subtle "snagged" or uncoordinated movement quality can lead to distal compensations down the arm.
I also dive into the research supporting these whole-body relationships, including studies on tennis elbow, thoracic mobilization, and how slouched posture reduces shoulder range and force. Moving beyond symptom-chasing or searching for a single mechanism, I share how looking at myofascial chains, movement quality, and full-body integration allows us to improve how clients feel, move, and return to the activities that matter to them.
Becoming A Trusted Advisor: Why Clients Keep Coming Back Even When Pain is Gone | #394
2026/10/08
In this episode, I expand on my previous discussion of Model 1 and Model 2 by introducing Model 3—a Framework for Self-Direction. While Model 1 focuses on reducing pain through pattern recognition, and Model 2 builds capacity and strength to get back into life, Model 3 addresses what happens when clients are mostly out of pain but encounter new emotional or environmental barriers as they pursue higher-level goals.
Using real-world client examples and my own personal experience with strength training and recovery, I break down the key obstacles that arise when returning to group classes or demanding activities. Rather than forcing through movement or ignoring internal cues, I share the six fundamental questions that form Model 3. These questions help both movement teachers and individuals cultivate body autonomy, navigate social pressures, and refine their movement choices for sustainable, lifelong progress.
You Have Helped Your Client Out of Pain, Then What? Part 2 of 2 | #393
2026/10/01
In this episode, I break down the transition from getting out of pain into moving back into the rest of your life—a concept I call Model Two. Building on the foundation of pattern recognition and pattern retraining from Model One, I explore how to help clients navigate the crucial window between baseline recovery and returning to full, complex activity without falling back into doubt or flare-ups.
I discuss how to rethink progress when symptoms return, distinguishing between a true setback and a need for greater movement complexity. Whether you're a practitioner looking to guide clients through adding load, variability, and speed, or an individual wanting to resume activities like running, golf, or yoga, I walk through a practical five-question roadmap to assess readiness, build component movements, and use reconnection strategies to cultivate long-term movement confidence.
You Have Helped Your Client Out of Pain, Then What? Part 1 of 2 | #392
2026/09/23
In this episode, I begin a two-part series focusing on how to navigate the shift from being in pain to returning to full, active living. I break down Model One: Pattern Recognition and Pattern Retraining, sharing how to work with clients—or yourself—when persistent pain is the primary concern. Drawing from my own journey as a yoga therapist, I explore how building self-trust, understanding key movement signals, and fostering awareness are essential to getting out of pain.
I delve into the powerful relationship between hope, possibility, and doubt, and explain why listening to a client's story and using a body diagram are the most crucial starting points. You'll learn why starting where the client wants to focus builds essential internal trust, how to identify compensatory patterns, and why paying attention to "yellow lights" and "whispers" can prevent pain from returning. By mastering these foundational steps, you can create long-lasting change and lay the groundwork for returning to complex, loaded movement.
From 15 Years of Pain to None in 5 Months - Why Angie, a CIAYT Yoga Therapist from Another Program, Signed Up for Certification | #391
2026/09/17
In this episode, I'm joined by CIYT graduate Angie Howden Duke for a deep dive into what it truly takes to get out of persistent, long-term pain. Angie shares her personal journey of overcoming 15 years of chronic neck, shoulder, and physical pain through consistent movement exploration and therapeutic yoga. Together, we discuss the transformative power of being a movement detective—shifting away from quick-fix diagnoses and rigid protocols to focus on presence, acute observation, and deep client-practitioner connection.
We also explore the unique structure of my certification cohort, designed specifically to mentor health professionals and experienced practitioners. From integrating business tools to honoring the yogic principle of asteya (non-stealing) by allowing clients the space to navigate their own healing journey, this episode offers rich insights for anyone looking to deepen their movement practice or elevate their therapeutic skills.
From 20 Years of Wrist Pain to Helping Others Out of Pain - And Arzina Murji Hasn't Even Graduated Yet | #390
2026/09/10
In this episode, I am joined by certification trainee Arzina Merji to discuss what happens when you shift your approach to pain from looking for a quick, magic fix to understanding movement patterns. Just two months into her certification program, Arzina shares her journey of overcoming two decades of severe wrist degeneration and pain without relying on constant bracing or heavy loads. We dive into how addressing compensation patterns, refining biomechanics, and listening to the body's subtle whispers can yield dramatic results for both teachers and clients.
We also explore how these same principles apply in a virtual setting. Arzina breaks down how she helped a client eliminate knee, mid-back, and groin pain entirely over Zoom by connecting the dots between hip and shoulder movement. Whether you are a practitioner looking to deepen your client work or someone navigating your own physical limitations, this conversation offers a fresh, empowering perspective on pain, healing, and what is truly possible at any age.
How Lindsay Savage Turned 1000s of Hours of Yoga Training Into a Cohesive Practice and a Thriving Business | #389
2026/09/03
In this episode, I sit down with Functional Synergy graduate Lindsay Savage to explore how movement professionals can integrate diverse training backgrounds into a cohesive, highly effective practice. Lindsay shares how bringing together over 1,000 hours of certifications helped her bridge the gap between logic and intuition to deliver more deliberate client results.
We discuss how refining simple biomechanical components—like working with non-linear movement planes and "The Power of the Pits"—can reduce bracing patterns, ease pain, and support clients with mobility challenges or conditions like Parkinson's. Lindsay also breaks down her concept of "Spontaneous Core" and explains how a structured, hands-on practicum builds teaching confidence while creating a sustainable, income-generating business.
When Body-Based Yoga Therapy Meets Mental Health Work: A Conversation with Functional Synergy Graduate Austin Chason | #388
2026/08/27
In this episode, I sit down with yoga therapist and program graduate Austin Chason to explore what life looks like post-certification and how core yoga therapy principles work in real-world clinical settings. We talk about how learning to truly trust what you see—and cultivating deep personal presence—can transform both physical pain and mental health.
Austin shares how he uses body-based yoga therapy in an intensive outpatient setting to support high-acuity mental health clients, neurodivergent individuals, and trauma survivors. We dive into how physical ease leads to mental stability, helping clients relieve chronic pain, regulate their nervous systems, and re-establish safety within their bodies.
What My Graduates Say Is Different About Yoga Therapy Certification with Functional Synergy | #387
2026/08/20
In this episode, I share key insights from my conversations with trainees and graduates about what sets Functional Synergy Yoga Therapy apart from other C-IAYT accredited programs. I break down how focusing on clinical reasoning, assessment skills, and individualized movement patterns allows practitioners to move beyond rigid templates and general protocols to truly meet clients where they are.
I also explore our unique approach to persistent pain—moving past symptoms to address neuromuscular retraining, sensorimotor loops, and compensatory patterns. Whether you're looking to refine your clinical skills, build your intuition into actionable observation, or grow a sustainable, part-time business that supports your retirement, this episode offers a look into what's possible when you learn to think like a movement detective.
The Body Does Not Keep Score: A New and Hopeful Way for Therapeutic Recovery and Healing | #386
2026/08/13
In this episode, I explore a recent paper published in Frontiers in Systems Neuroscience titled "The Body Does Not Keep Score: Trauma, Predictive Coding, and the Restoration of Metastability." I break down how this research challenges Bessel van der Kolk's famous metaphor that the body "stores" trauma, offering instead a neuroscience lens focused on prediction error and brain flexibility. Rather than viewing trauma as something physically trapped in fascia or muscle, we look at how the brain becomes rigidly fixed in predicting danger—and what it actually takes to update those predictions.
I also connect these scientific concepts directly to what I see clinically in my biomechanics and yoga therapy practice. I share how introducing small, objective movement changes creates a "prediction interruption" that helps clients break out of binary thinking around pain and relief. By acting as a movement detective and tuning into the body's subtle "yellow lights" and "whispers," you can create novel sensorimotor experiences that give the nervous system the concrete evidence it needs to move from persistent pain into real possibility.
What Happens When a Client Doesn't Have Awareness? Ideas from 30+ years of helping people reduce and eliminate pain. | #385
2026/08/06
In this episode, I explore a common challenge that movement teachers and practitioners face: what to do when a client lacks physical awareness or struggles to describe what they are feeling. I explain why body awareness is essential for creating lasting, transformational change rather than just temporary pain relief. By breaking down the difference between relief as an initial event and change as an ongoing process, I highlight why meeting clients at their current level of awareness is the key to helping them retrain their movement patterns effectively.
I also dive into the two main reasons clients struggle with bodily awareness—a simple lack of movement literacy or a lack of mental and physical bandwidth—and share practical, gentle strategies to cultivate it. Using my "teaspoon vs. cup" metaphor, I demonstrate how small, non-judgmental cues and distal points of focus can help build a client's awareness over time. By shifting away from a performance mindset and inviting simple observation, we can empower our clients to move out of pain and build sustainable progress.
There Is No Culprit: Why finding the "problem" may be keeping you stuck – and how I help my clients out of pain. | #384
2026/07/30
In this episode, I explore why searching for a single "problem muscle" or quick-fix diagnosis often leads to a dead end when dealing with persistent pain. Drawing on my early career at a chronic pain center—and over three decades of working with clients—I break down how our culture's "pain on, pain off" light-switch mentality prevents us from tuning into the body's subtle spectrum of signals.
I share real-world stories illustrating how solving pain rarely comes down to isolating a single area, whether it's an ankle adjustment releasing a tight shoulder, or a knee improving without ever touching the joint itself. Using David Butler's model of DIMs (Danger In Me) and SIMs (Safety In Me), I explain how to reframe your pain, move away from symptom-chasing, and step into a "movement detective" mindset to uncover patterns, restore ease, and shift your body from pain to possibility.
The Pinky Toe - Not Some Lame Useless Appendage: Everyone ignores the Pinky Toe. Let me show you why you should pay attention. | #383
2026/07/23
In this episode, I explore the hidden role of the pinky toe and why this often-ignored appendage plays a crucial part in how we receive load, sense the ground, and maintain lateral stability. I break down the anatomy and biomechanics of the outer foot, explaining how muscles like the abductor digiti minimi, flexor digiti minimi brevis, and the peroneals work together as a coordinated collective to widen the foot and create a micro-adjustable suspension system.
I also connect the dots between the pinky toe, the plantar sling, and the entire kinetic chain—from the pelvis and ribcage down to the breath. Rather than viewing the foot as an isolated set of muscles, I invite you to see how restoring suppleness and responsiveness to the outer foot can transform full-body movement patterns, relieving tension from the lower back and SI joints all the way to the jaw.
Peroneals, Ankle Sprains and Powerful Feet | #382
2026/07/15
In this episode, we dive into part two of our three-part miniseries on the foot, shifting our movement detective magnifying glass from the inner edge to its balancing partner: the outer edge of the foot and lower leg. I break down the anatomy and biomechanics of the peroneals (also known as the fibularis muscles) and explain their crucial role as the lateral reins that keep our movement system steady, manage side-to-side control, and stabilize the ankle.
I also explore why the peroneals matter so much in chronic ankle sprains, looking beyond structural ligament damage to how these injuries disrupt the brain's proprioceptive map and delay muscle timing. We'll connect the dots between the outside of the shin and the lateral hip, explaining why pelvic stability is key to relieving reactive work at the ankle. Rather than just rolling out tight tissue, I invite you to retrain these muscles so they can actively coordinate with the tibialis anterior, restoring the foot's elegant underfoot stabilizing stirrup for truly resilient, adaptable movement.
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gwenmurphystudio 2020/07/10
Mentor’s Mentor
Susi is a mentor/teacher to one of my most valued mentor/teachers. I have taken Susi’s I Love Anatomy online course for Yoga teachers, and learned so...
dootph 2020/07/10
Susi is my number one go-to expert on pain care.
I have followed Susi for many years and consider her to be one of the most trusted experts when it comes to training yourself out of pain. Through her...
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