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Send us Fan Mail In this episode, Eric Gruber (Personal ABM CEO) speaks to Brian Shea (Principal at Lucrum Partners) on buyer-informed messaging, signal intelligence across the revenue lifecycle, and GTM system design and execution. Specifically, they discuss: 1. How intent (even at the person level) can be a revenue restraint and that deal discounting can be attributed to the fact that teams are using intent data and reacting to predefined needs.  2. The lack of control that GTM teams have when intent is in the picture - as intent is too late -- and how getting in earlier with the right business shift/change and strategic priority signals can provide the control that GTM teams need. 3. What are the signals that should inform buyer messaging, content, stories and  the interactions that all teams have. 4. How the marketing and sales conversation needs to change to to engage buyers earlier based on the account situation - and the needed content, messaging and story shifts that will win meetings.  5. How GTM teams can have greater control acoss the buyer's journey to advance the meeting and the account - and to close to the deal. You'll hear how to continue delivering the right content, messaging and account experiences to drive account progression.

Send us Fan Mail Gal Aga (CEO at Aligned) joined  Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM - the leading account-based GTM firm that specializes in the post-pipeline to land and expand key accounts) on the ABM Done Right Podcast to discuss: 1. How and why most teams that are going upmarket now are not ready to sell and market to the enterprise 2. The sales and marketing foundation that teams need before they can go upmarket and the GTM changes that need to happen.  3. How the enterprise buying experience is broken 4. The support sales needs from marketing in the post-pipeline to unstick enterprise revenue -- and the role ABM should play in driving stage progression with enterprise accounts.

Send us Fan Mail Rob Young, CMO of LockThreat GRC and Founder of MarketingHQ, recently joined Eric Gruber on the ABM Done Right Podcast to discuss how the teams are approaching brand and demand with ABM in mind, what ABM is from the perspective of a product marketer, how most ABM programs are nothing more than targeted demand gen, and the content that's needed in the post-pipeline to move accounts to revenue.

Send us Fan Mail On this episode of the ABM Done Right Podcast, Sloan Newman (North American ABM Leader at NTT Data and author of "The Relationship Revolution) joins Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) to discuss: 1. The strategic ICP - Why it's important, how it's different from the traditional ICP,  how Sloan built the strategic ICP for NTT Data, what he looked at to build it,  and how the strategic ICP should inform the ICP?   2. How compensation needs to change   3. Why senior-level marketers need to drive the ABM program?   4. The role that Challenger should play in ABM.

Send us Fan Mail Due to the nature of the business, sales cycle time, and how teams buy, when you are in IT services, or you're an integrator, you need to approach ABM differently than if you were a SaaS company. In this podcast episode, Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) and David Myer of Clarify (a 1:1 ABM firm that focuses on getting strategic enterprise accounts to the pipeline while Personal ABM specializes in moving pipeline accounts to revenue) speaks to Marc Fuentes (Head of Commercial for Eclipse Automation about his vision for his upcoming ABM program and how it differs from the past where he ran ABM for SaaS firms.  You'll see how Marc plans on engage and win multi-million dollar deals with life sciences/pharma, industrial, and nuclear enterprise accounts within the Fortune 1000 and Nasdaq.

Send us Fan Mail In this podcast episode. Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) and Pamela Velentzas (VP of Marketing at Spreedly) discuss: 1. Why does a strategic account-based enterprise sales and marketing approach require a completely different GTM than the GTM for SMB?  2. The sales/marketing foundation that needs to be built from a brand, demand, land, and expand perspective before you can effectively do ABM for the enterprise.   3. How you need to go beyond account-level intent when selling and marketing to the enterprise, and why Spreedly switched to Influ2 4. The enablement that's needed to help sales teams have the right interactions and deliver the right account experiences. Pamela shares the sales enablement processes she put into place, and then Eric talks about the deal-level content and support that will be needed as well. Because of the information Eric shared on the deal level, Pamela asked for a follow-up conversation to see how Personal ABM can potentially support the post-pipeline account experience that Spreedly wants to deliver.

Send us Fan Mail In this podcast episode, Mike Randall (Head of Enterprise Marketing at Skillsoft and former demand gen leader at JLL and Red Hat) mentioned that leadership, sales, and other parts of the organization thought that they were being taxed by marketing. The budget was being taken by marketing programs that would only drive account awareness and build a pipeline that, in most cases, went nowhere. Revenue was stuck in the pipeline due to acquisition waste, leakage and sales cycle delay as marketing did not proactively work with -- and support sales.  In addition to hearing how marketing was a tax, you'll also learn about the changes that Skillsoft is making and the foundation they are building to drive greater enterprise growth.  '

Send us Fan Mail Eve Chen, CEO of Growth Engine and Fractional CMO for Tech Companies, joined Eric Gruber on the ABM Done Right Podcast to discuss: 1.  How GTM teams and organizations lack the strategic clarity that's needed for ABM. 2. How most GTM teams do not understand their customers enough - even the ones that think they nailed their ICP. You'll learn about the 5 levels of customer maturity knowledge.  3. The interpretation gap that can be found in AI and all ABM platforms.  4. The 6 eras of revenue growth.

Send us Fan Mail In this episode of the ABM Done Right Podcast, Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) and Carlos Araujo (VP of Marketing at Swapcard) discuss the difference between what ABM should be -- and what's being done today by most companies.  Now Carlos built and executed ABM programs at his previous companies. You'll hear what he's doing today at Swapcard and why he says Swapcard is not doing ABM, even though it sounds like a lot of what most ABMers are doing today.

Send us Fan Mail While CMOs, VPs of marketing, and others are concerned that deals are stalling in the mid-funnel and last-mile nurture, they continue not to invest in it.  In fact, when Eric Gruber, CEO of Personal ABM, talked to Matt Hummel from Pipeline360 (the guest for this episode),  Matt mentioned that he had just spoken with a CMO customer of his on this exact topic.  Now, the Pipeline360 platform helps with lead generation, automated campaigns. and appointment scheduling. It's an integrated CRM, it does reputation management, and it enables customizable funnels and websites. The CMO customer told our guest that they're building a strong pipeline using their platform, but it's not converting to revenue. Our guest asked the CMO... How much are you investing in the mid-funnel? And she said... We're not. She continued to invest in building a pipeline, even though the pipeline didn't go anywhere. In this episode, you'll hear: 1. Why teams are not investing in the mid-funnel nurture and why they should focus more on post-pipeline than actually building the pipeline.  2. How CMOs and marketing teams think they are investing in the mid-funnel but they're not.  3.  How we need to be reading the "defense" and paying attention to what's going on in the accounts we want to win -- and how failure to do this will result in low win rates despite investing in the post-pipeline. 4. How we need to go beyond orchestrating technologies and orchestrate the account experience.  5. How we should be enabling champions 6. How teams are approaching the mid-funnel wrong -- and how to change the account experiences that are delivered post-pipeline.- 7. Why companies like Uniphore struggle with accounts going dark after initial engagement with ABM campaigns.

Send us Fan Mail In this episode of the ABM Done Right Podcast, Peter Mikael at Globant joined Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM to discuss: 1. The foundation building that's necessary before you do ABM for services. 2. How execution of ABM for services differ when it comes to new customer acquisition 3: How execution of ABM for services differ when it comes to account retention and expansion

Send us Fan Mail The guest on this ABM Done Right Podcast mentioned on LinkedIn recently that in many cases ABM = Almost But Meh. 𝐆𝐨𝐢𝐧𝐠 ‘𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐢𝐧’ 𝐨𝐧 𝐀𝐁𝐌 𝐢𝐬𝐧’𝐭 𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐤𝐲. 𝐆𝐨𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐡𝐚𝐥𝐟𝐰𝐚𝐲 𝐢𝐬. He also said that - Most teams say they “do ABM.” What they really mean is they run a few ads to a named account list, and call it strategy. That’s not Account-Based Marketing. It's “Almost But Meh.” ABM only works if you’re all in and deeply focused. The end state is that each account becomes effectively a market of one. - Sales and marketing are aligned on the same few accounts - Content is built for specific buying committees, not just personas in theory - Every touchpoint is orchestrated Brad Fehler, Head of Growth Marketing for Prolific joined Kristina Jaramillo and Eric Gruber to discuss: 1. How and why most ABM programs are almost, but meh. 2: How most teams are not ABM-ready before they launch. 3 How teams are using legacy frameworks and approaches that were created 22 years ago. 4: How teams are trying to scale ABM (even 1:1 ABM) and failing  -- and how ABM cannot be automated even though platforms like Mutiny and Tofu are talking about scaling 1:1. 5. How we need to think about content when doing ABM

Send us Fan Mail Brandon Redlinger posted on LinkedIn that marketing doesn’t deserve a seat at the table by default. Marketing doesn’t have the respect of the CRO by default. Marketing should have a seat at the table and earn the respect of the CRO and sales, but other members of the C-suite lose confidence in Marketing’s ability to contribute more broadly than just branding and campaigns. They need to see that: You develop strategies that directly align with the company’s financial objectives.You collaborate more effectively with sales, customer success, product, and finance.You drive measurable impact on business, revenue, and margin growth – and not just pipeline.In this podcast episode, Jayashree Rajan (CMO of Nexla) joined Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM to discuss: 1. How CMOs need to rethink what ABM is --- and their approach? You'll see how most CMOs and their teams are only doing list-based marketing or account-based demand gen vs. changing the interactions that all teams have and the account experiences that are delivered across the buying journey and customer lifecycle.  2. How CMOs need to approach ABM readiness and execution. 3. How we should take a data-driven evaluation approach for actual impact 4. How CMOs need to change their thoughts on scaling and AI when it comes to ABM -- and how we should focus on scaling for impact vs. just scaling activities.  5. How to align your CEO, CRO, CFO, and CCO with marketing when it comes to ABM or a strategic account program.  After listening  to this episode, you may want to check out the supporting article below: https://www.personalabm.com/how-cmos-need-to-change-their-thinking-of-what-abm-is/

Send us Fan Mail In this episode of the ABM Done Right Podcast, Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) talks to Rachel Donner at Snyk about their ABM programs in relation to their customer success programs.  You will hear: 1. How true ABM belongs closer to sales and CS than marketing, and why the CRO and CCO should own it. 2.  What true 1:1 ABM is - and how Snyk is using it to drive adoption, retention, and account expansion.  4.  The 1:1 ABM content that is needed to protect and expand accounts.

Send us Fan Mail A couple of months ago, Gabe Rogl, the CEO of Demandbase, posted: BGM, or Buying Group Marketing, is the new ABM. Yes, ABM was named wrong in the first place. It should have been account-based go-to market, or account-based experience.  But it's because it's just not a marketing thing. And yes, it's still foundational for businesses that market complex solutions with long sales cycles, but there's been a clear evolution the last 15 years that's led us to the criticality of buying groups.  It started around 2010, when the lead-based approach reached its endpoint. That led to the decade-plus evolution of ABM as a practice, as a job function, and as a technology. ABM was a huge step forward because it focused resources on accounts that led to the greatest LTV and made sales and marketing alignment a priority. But today, the best go-to markets are supercharging ABM by operationalizing buying groups as: 1.  Not everyone in an account is relevant to the sales cycle. 2. There are more people involved in a sales cycle than ever before.  3. Accounts can purchase multiple products, focusing on the account alone without using buyer groups as a data object. This makes it very difficult to prospect, sell, forecast multiple opportunities in the same account. 4. Engaging buying groups de-risks every phase of revenue creation. Pipeline, win rates, renewal, expansion.  5. It is an absolute competitive differentiator right now, because few companies are doing it well. This is why he says BGM initiatives will drive the next wave of B2B growth. But on this episode, Jessica Fewless at Inverta joined Kristina Jaramillo and Eric Gruber to challenge Gabe's post and thoughts.