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90 episodes
Language
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Date created
2020/06/26
Latest episode
2025/10/30
Average duration
61 min.
Release period
40 days
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Welcome to Mixed Up, a podcast for mixed people everywhere and for anyone looking into a deeper insight on race and identity. Hosted by sustainability consultant and creative director Emma Slade Edmondson, and Nicole Ocran, writer and co-founder of The Creator Union. The show is about straddling two worlds and multiple identities. Now more than ever, it feels like people of mixed heritage are seeking out their space to talk about their lived experiences. But despite searching, we could find very little to relate to. We decided to make something we would have appreciated hearing. Music by: Hagan
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Charisse Kenion on the how the political shift towards conservatism is reflected in our beauty standards
2025/10/30
The one where we discuss the pressure to become skinny at any cost
Emma and Nicole speak with Charisse Kenion, beauty and culture journalist, writer, photographer and podcaster. In her work she digs deep into beauty standards, cultural narratives and personal stories across identity lines over the past 15 years and has contributed to the likes of Dazed Beauty and British Vogue.
We speak about the impact of beauty standards on Black and mixed women, ageing, the push for GLP-1s, and how the political climate is reflected in societal beauty standards.
Buy our book, The Half of It: Exploring the Mixed Race Experience
Emma Slade Edmondson: https://www.instagram.com/emsladedmondson/
Nicole Ocran: https://www.instagram.com/nicoleocran/
Mixed Up: https://www.instagram.com/mixedup.podcast
Charisse Kenion: https://www.instagram.com/charisse_kenion/https://www.instagram.com/charisse_kenion/
Website: https://www.mixedup.co.uk/
Substack: https://mixeduppod.substack.com/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mixedup.podcast
Denise Devenish on the importance of cultural competency for therapists and how the practice works when you’re interrogating identity
2025/10/22
The one where you’re asked to choose a flag
Emma and Nicole speak with mixed British-Japanese artist and counsellor, Denise Devenish. She works primarily with musicians and creatives having grown up in a family steeped in the music industry.
She is the daughter of Kishi Yamamoto and Adrian Sherwood of On-U Sound fame and was surrounded by around iconic artists including Lee Scratch Perry, Ari Up and Bim Sherman.
We discuss how psychotherapy has historically been a white, middle-class practice, the importance of cultural competency within therapy, what it's like to name and explore your own experience and discomfort as a therapist and the responsibility one feels to take care of one's many cultures and heritages.
Buy our book, The Half of It: Exploring the Mixed Race Experience
Emma Slade Edmondson: https://www.instagram.com/emsladedmondson/
Nicole Ocran: https://www.instagram.com/nicoleocran/
Mixed Up: https://www.instagram.com/mixedup.podcast
Denise Devenish: https://www.instagram.com/denise.devenish/
Website: https://www.mixedup.co.uk/
Substack: https://mixeduppod.substack.com/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mixedup.podcast
Nehanda Truscott-Reid on how to decolonise mainstream narratives of Black and brown mothers
2025/10/15
The one where we call our white boy bredrins to tell them to use their privilege for their wives at the hospital
Emma and Nicole speak to Nehanda Truscott-Reid, a maternal wellness coach and founder Soul Mama Journey, which supports women of colour through the transition of motherhood to healing from maternal burnout. She also hosts The Soul Mama Podcast and runs The Soul Mama Retreat, a sacred space for black and mixed mothers to heal, rest and rejuvenate.
Pre-order our book, The Half of It: Exploring the Mixed Race Experience
Emma Slade Edmondson: https://www.instagram.com/emsladedmondson/
Nicole Ocran: https://www.instagram.com/nicoleocran/
Mixed Up: https://www.instagram.com/mixedup.podcast
Nehanda Truscott-Reid on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/soulmamajourney
Website: https://www.mixedup.co.uk/
Substack: https://mixeduppod.substack.com/
Sara Assad-Mannings on Palestinian joy, the politics of heritage, and having moral clarity in herself and business
2024/07/24
The one where sit down with South London’s worst kept secret 🤫
Emma and Nicole sit down with Sara Assad-Mannings, co-owner and founder of Bunhead Bakery. We talk about her lockdown journey of bringing Palestinian flavours across South London from stalls and pop-ups to a viral bricks and mortar bakery, growing up “ambiguous” but staunchly proud and intentional in sharing her Palestinian heritage and upbringing.
They also discuss food being a safe place and a way to show love, the politics of heritage, how people find connection to a cause, and creating spaces we didn’t have when we were growing up.
Pre-order our book The Half Of It: https://lnkfi.re/nf0upC
Sara Assad-Mannings: https://www.instagram.com/bunheadbakes/
Bunhead Bakery: https://www.instagram.com/thebunheadbakery/
Instagram: https://instagram.com/mixedup.podcast
Website: https://www.mixedup.co.uk/
Substack: https://mixeduppod.substack.com
BEKA on making music that moves us, adoption, and being mixed in the music industry
2024/07/10
The one with the mutual fan girling and a Land Rover to North Yorkshire.
This week Emma and Nicole sit down with singer songwriter and beautiful soul Beka Prance. She is a master of the art of blending heart wrenching words and melodies and recently wrote the soundtrack for Apple TV show Trying.
They talk about weaving life experiences of being mixed into the music, adoption, having two mixed parents and what it’s like to be on a set where no one quite knows quite what to do with your hair. There is a lot of laughter!
Order our book The Half Of It: https://lnkfi.re/nf0upC
BEKA: https://www.instagram.com/bekaontoast
Instagram: https://instagram.com/mixedup.podcast
Website: https://www.mixedup.co.uk/
Substack: https://mixeduppod.substack.com
You don’t know The Half of It
2024/07/03
The one where we talk about the book.
Emma and Nicole are joined by Isabella Silvers, journalist and founder of Mixed Messages to discuss the release of their book, The Half of It. This time, Izzy interviews Emma and Nicole on how they got started, the book writing process, and themes from the book - history of mixed people from across the globe, understanding the root of mixed race stereotypes, childhood and forming identity, interracial relationships and dating, fetishisation, adoption, hair, beauty standards, and why we need to examine the phrase ‘white passing’.
Buy our book The Half Of It: https://lnkfi.re/nf0upC
Isabella Silvers: https://www.instagram.com/izzymks/
Mixed Messages: https://www.instagram.com/mixedmessagesnewsletter/
Mixed Messages Newsletter: https://mixedmessages.substack.com/
Instagram: https://instagram.com/mixedup.podcast
Website: https://www.mixedup.co.uk/
Substack: https://mixeduppod.substack.com
The Halfie Project on changing attitudes towards mixed Koreans, uncovering key moments in mixed history and the connotations of language
2024/06/26
The one where we collect markers to flag our identities.
Nicole is solo this week speaking with Becky White, creator and co-host of The Halfie Project, a platform and community that explores mixed Korean subcultures and identity. The Halfie Project kindly contributed to our book, The Half of It.
They discuss their relationship with language, the history of mixed Koreans and the diaspora, how we are seen differently depending on our location, and how attitudes towards mixed Koreans have changed over time.
Pre-order our book The Half Of It: https://lnkfi.re/nf0upC
The Halfie Project: https://www.instagram.com/thehalfieproject/
Instagram: https://instagram.com/mixedup.podcast
Website: https://www.mixedup.co.uk/
Substack: https://mixeduppod.substack.com
Farzana Nayani on raising multi heritage children, why The Talk is important, and how to cultivate belonging
2024/06/19
The one where we find the language to talk about our experience.
Emma and Nicole speak to Farzana Nayani, author of Raising Multiracial Children: Tools for Nurturing Identity in a Racialized World. Farzana is Filipina-Pakistani and is a diversity, equity and inclusion specialist in race, unconscious bias, culture and identity. She has been working with schools and within corporate environments for many years.
Pre-order our book The Half Of It: https://lnkfi.re/nf0up
https://www.instagram.com/farzananayani
https://www.instagram.com/multiracialmatters
Website: https://www.mixedup.co.uk
Substack: https://mixeduppod.substack.com
Mikaela Loach on how hope for the future lies in a completely transformed world that is within our reach
2024/06/12
The one where we talk about tackling the climate crisis with an awareness of social injustice
Emma and Nicole speak to Mikaela Loach, climate justice activist, campaigner and author about coming from two cultures that have a very different responsibility around the climate crisis.
They discuss atmospheric colonialism, the moment she took the government to court and how we can look to our ancestors for the fortitude to keep pushing for a better world. Her book, It's Not That Radical, is available now.
This episode is brought to you by Uncommon Wines.
Thank you to the Groovy House for hosting us!
Pre-order our book The Half Of It: https://lnkfi.re/nf0up
Mikaela Loach: https://www.instagram.com/mikaelaloach Instagram: https://instagram.com/mixedup.podcast
Website: https://www.mixedup.co.uk/Substack: https://mixeduppod.substack.com
Michael Caines on being one of the few Black Michelin star chefs in the world, how food connects us to culture, and working in predominantly white environments
2024/06/05
The one where the cream rises to the top
Emma and Nicole speak to Michael Caines, is a two-Michelin star awarded chefs and one of six Black Michelin star chefs in the world. Born in Exeter, Michael was adopted into a white family at a young age and his love of cooking lead him to apprentice under Raymond Blanc, and at the age of 25 a car accident lead to him losing his right arm.
He discusses growing up in a white family and predominantely white environments, working in fast-paced and highly competitive environments, relearning his skills after losing an arm, and how food connects us to culture.
Michael is featured in Lucas Fothergill's Everyone Everywhere: Mixed Race Family Stories, looking into a hundred years of mixed British history, published by Unbounders.
Pre-order our book The Half Of It: https://lnkfi.re/nf0upC
Michael Caines: https://www.instagram.com/macaines/
Lucas Fothgergill: https://twitter.com/lucasfothergill
Everyone Everywhere: https://unbound.com/books/everyone-everywhere
Instagram: https://instagram.com/mixedup.podcast
Website: https://www.mixedup.co.uk/
Substack: https://mixeduppod.substack.com
Why we need to re-examine the phrase white passing: Becca Dudley on flying the flag for reggae and having your authenticity questioned
2024/05/29
The one where they expect you to play Britney Spears because they think you're a white girl
Emma and Nicole speak to Becca Dudley, a DJ and TV presenter who has been in the music industry for over a decade. Becca has Jamaican, British and German heritage, and set up the platform Deadly to showcase the best of reggae, dancehall and grime, and to shine a light up-and-coming artists.
They discuss being misidentified, having your authenticity questioned, imposter syndrome, coming out online to different communities and the fear of being labelled a 'culture vulture'.
Pre-order our book The Half Of It: https://lnkfi.re/nf0upC
Becca D: https://www.instagram.com/beccadudley/
Deadly Official: https://www.instagram.com/deadlyofficial/
Instagram: https://instagram.com/mixedup.podcast
Website: https://www.mixedup.co.uk/
Substack: https://mixeduppod.substack.com
All my friends are white - how our authentic selves are shaped by location and the people around us
2024/05/22
Emma and Nicole speak to Hanako Footman, actor and author of her debut novel, Mongrel, following the lives of three women, Mei, Yuki and Haruka "revealing a tangled web of desire, isolation, belonging and ultimately, hope." Hanako is British-Japanese and has appeared in ITV's The Town, BBC Two's Defending the Guilty, and Netflix's The Crown.
They discuss growing up in predominantly white environments, what it means to be mixed Asian, the casting couch as a mixed person, how we hold on to our identity when we lose a parent and why we hate the phrase 'white passing'.
Pre-order our book The Half Of It: https://lnkfi.re/nf0upC
Hanako Footman: https://www.instagram.com/hanakofootman/
Instagram: https://instagram.com/mixedup.podcast
Website: https://www.mixedup.co.uk/
Substack: https://mixeduppod.substack.com
LIVE: Maggi in your shepherd's pie - how food and storytelling go hand in hand
2024/05/15
The one where we trace pepper across the globe
In this week's live episode, Emma and Nicole speak to writer, journalist, poet and academic, Dr Anna Sulan Masing. Her work centres around identity, race and gender and looks to decolonise the cultural spaces we live in, particularly within food. They discuss the relationship between food and searching for 'home', how identity changes when location changes, and how perceptions and stereotypes around East and Southeast Asians have changed over time.
Many thanks to Spiritland for hosting us for the evening!
Pre-order our book The Half Of It: https://lnkfi.re/nf0upC
Dr Anna Sulan Masing: https://www.instagram.com/annasulan
Ana de Costa: https://www.instagram.com/_lotsofbutter/
Instagram: https://instagram.com/mixedup.podcast
Website: https://www.mixedup.co.uk/
Substack: https://mixeduppod.substack.com
Everybody has a hair journey: can we retire the hair typing chart yet?
2024/05/08
The one where we finally sit down as Black and mixed race women to talk about our hair
This week Emma and Nicole sit down with Paige Lewin (host of Texture Talks) and multihyphanete creative, Oneness Sankara, to decide if it's time to scrap the hair texture chart. They find out how we can talk to each other properly as Black and mixed women about our hair knowing that the struggles are different, but they're there. They also dig into expectations about "who has it worse" and dissect the myth on how "difficult" it is to have Black hair.
This episode is in collaboration with Texture Talks hosted by Paige Lewin, head there for part 2!
Pre-order our book The Half Of It: https://lnkfi.re/nf0upC
Texture Talks: https://www.instagram.com/texturetalksuk/
Oneness: https://www.instagram.com/thequantumcreative/
Instagram: https://instagram.com/mixedup.podcast
Website: https://www.mixedup.co.uk/
Substack: https://mixeduppod.substack.com
Dating apps are modern day segregation: a look into how the algorithms keep us apart
2024/05/01
The one where Hinge needs to drop their location
Emma and Nicole speak to Apryl Williams, an assistant professor of communication and digital studies at the University of Michigan, senior fellow in Trustworthy AI at the Mozilla Foundation, and faculty associate at Harvard University’s Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society. She’s the author of Not My Type: Automating Sexual Racism in Online Dating.
They discuss Apryl's research into about dating app inequality and sexual racism in online dating and how prejudice and bias gets baked into modern day dating culture through algorithms and AI.
Pre-order our book The Half Of It: https://lnkfi.re/nf0upC
Apryl's Twitter: https://twitter.com/AprylW
Instagram: https://instagram.com/mixedup.podcast
Website: https://www.mixedup.co.uk/
Substack: https://mixeduppod.substack.com
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Ado2pod 2024/06/19
Loved the episode with Farzana Nayani
A gem from start to finish
Bart Ranger 2023/08/22
Great interview with Ashleigh Plumptre
That was a really nice interview you had with Ashleigh Plumptre! Loved hearing about her heritage story. As a middle aged overseas Nigerian I’m extrem...
@laniciamedina__ 2021/04/28
10/10 highly recommend!
I am so happy I found this podcast. I feel connected and just love the topics every episode! I’m always looking forward to the next episode.
redheadpanda 2021/02/16
Thank you
This is great content!! I love this !!
sim starrr 2021/02/04
❤️
I’ve never felt so validated by a podcast in my life.
wadisonmoods 2020/12/03
Season 1 Ep 1
My mother, even though I didn't live with her, was always very protective of my when we traveled to places that I "didn't fit it." I believe it wasn't...
Angelique Loves Books 2020/09/21
This makes me feel connected!
I just finished the first episode of your podcast Mixed Up and it’s wonderful! You mentioned not knowing anyone in person mixed who grew up with just ...
litapk 2020/09/09
Great podcast!
As some who is half Black and half Mexican I appreciate the conversations. It nice to have two people with similar life stories talking about how the ...
tomtommag 2020/07/19
Cannot Get Enough
Emma and Nicole allow us (the listener) in on the inner workings of their lives as greatly under-discussed mixed race identity people. All at once sha...
kashinotcereal 2020/07/16
So good!
As a mixed-race woman, I don’t often find stories that feel authentic to my experience. This podcast is authentic, raw, and thought-provoking. Can’t w...
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