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My guests are Entrepreneurs, Executives, Olympians, Artists, and Creatives. Some famous names and some hidden gems. We discuss what success means to each one of them and decode the best parts of their mindset. It is a search for the common threads, principles, and patterns that we can apply to our own lives to become healthier, wealthier, happier, and wiser.
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#62 Michael Campion - Why Some CEOs Sound Years Ahead of Everyone Else
2026/08/19
Most CEOs think they have a confidence problem. They don't. They have a clarity problem.
You can watch it happen in real time. Someone stands up in front of a room, opens with "so..." and thirty seconds of hedging, and you can feel the room's confidence in them drop before they've said anything worth remembering. They're not less smart than the person who sounds brilliant right after them. They're just less clear.
So what actually separates the executives who sound years ahead of everyone else in the room from the ones who don't?
It's not innate charisma. It's not a personality type you're born with. It's a small number of specific, trainable techniques that get drilled into people at the top, usually in private, and almost never explained anywhere public.
In this episode, I break down the exact mechanics I use to coach CEOs and senior executives to sound clearer, more decisive, and more convincing under pressure. You'll learn the four-part framework top executives use to answer any hard question in under fifteen seconds, why a story about a customer will always outperform a slide full of data, and why the way your voice ends a sentence can undo everything you just said.
I also share the real reason over-preparing doesn't make you sound scripted, the one metaphor rule almost everyone breaks the moment their first one works, and an uncomfortable truth about why some people always seem three months ahead of everyone else in the room.
If you've ever watched a CEO speak and wondered how they make it look so easy, this episode is the answer.
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(00:00) The Communication Gap Nobody Talks About
(02:52) Tip 1: The PREP Framework
(05:49) Brevity & the Cost of Rambling
(08:40) Tip 2: Stories Beat Spreadsheets
(10:51) The SHUSH Storytelling Formula
(12:24) The Neuroscience of Great Storytelling
(14:39) Tip 3: The Downward Close
(18:22) Tip 4: One Metaphor Beats Ten Adjectives
(21:53) Tip 5: The Preparation Advantage
(24:52) Knowing the Room & The Pratfall Effect
(27:05) Bonus: Wisdom Is Just Access in Disguise
(29:10) The Real Point of All This
#61 Michael Campion - How Great Public Speakers Make People Actually Listen
2026/07/22
Most people don't have a short attention span. They have a low threshold for boredom.
Netflix asks "are you still watching?" and you always say yes when the story's good. The same thing happens in a boardroom, on a stage, in a pitch meeting. People don't tune out because they can't focus. They tune out because you gave them a reason to.
So what makes some speakers impossible to look away from, while others lose the room in the first thirty seconds?
It's not charisma. It's not luck. It's a handful of specific, learnable habits: how fast you get to the point, how often you deliver something worth hearing, and whether you're brave enough to say something only you could say.
In this episode, I break down exactly how I coach CEOs, TEDx speakers, and total beginners to hold a room's attention from the first second to the last. You'll learn why you have one tenth of a second to make a first impression, why "rate of revelation" matters more than most people realize, and why stories beat spreadsheets every single time.
I also share the exact opening formula I use before every talk, the reason AI generated content falls flat no matter how polished it looks, and a personal story about my son that shows why none of this works without honesty.
If you've ever watched someone speak and thought "why can't I do that," this episode is the answer.
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(00:00) Why Public Speaking Fear Is Universal
(01:20) It's Not About You: Serve the Idea, Not the Ego
(02:36) Nervous or Excited? The Story You Tell Yourself
(03:22) Practice Is the Enemy of Doubt
(04:39) Record Yourself: The Fastest Way to Improve
(05:52) Is Persuasion Manipulation?
(08:33) The H.I.U. Formula for Opening Any Talk
(09:49) First Impressions and the Rate of Revelation
(12:33) Attention Span Myth: Why Stories Beat Spreadsheets
(15:26) Why AI Can't Replace Your Voice
(17:58) The SHUSH Storytelling Formula
(22:21) Structure, Frameworks, and Why Talent Is Practice in Disguise
#60 Marie Claire Lim Moore - At Work, You're Replaceable. At Home, You're Not.
2026/06/30
Marie Claire Lim Moore has built one of the most remarkable careers in corporate Asia.
CEO of TransUnion Asia Pacific. Author of two books. TEDx speaker. Mother of three. A Filipina immigrant who climbed to the top of one of the world's leading data and analytics companies without ever pretending to be someone she wasn't.
But this conversation isn't about the résumé.
It's about what the résumé costs. And what it's worth.
Ten years ago, Claire stood on a TEDx stage and asked a question that stopped rooms: how can we have so many tiger moms and so few tiger women? Asian women dominate classrooms, top university rankings, and outperform in early careers. Then, somewhere between ambition and expectation, they disappear from the leadership table.
A decade later, the numbers are moving. But the inner game, the guilt, the fear, the daily negotiation between who you are at work and who you are at home, that part hasn't changed.
Claire is one of the most honest voices on what it actually looks like to lead 500 people across Asia Pacific, raise three teenagers, stay married for 17 years, and still feel afraid of disappointing the people you love most.
Not the polished version. The real one.
We talk about the moment her parents' disappointment, over a forgotten bar of soap, inspired a bestselling book and reminded her never to forget where she came from. We talk about the mentor who told her: at work, you're replaceable, at home, you're not and how that one line became a decision-making framework. We talk about why perfectionism is just fear in disguise, why work-life balance is useless as a philosophy but powerful as a daily practice, and why the question isn't whether you can have it all, it's whether you're asking the right question in the first place.
And at the end, she answers the one question no host has ever asked her.
The answer will stay with you.
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Guest - Marie Claire Lim Moore: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marieclairelimmoore/
Marie Claire Lim Moore is the CEO of TransUnion Asia Pacific, leading a team of approximately 500 people across the region. She is the author of two books, Don't Forget the Soap and Other Reminders from My Fabulous Filipina Mother and Don't Forget the Parsley and a TEDx speaker whose talk on Asian women in leadership has continued to spark conversation a decade after its release. A Filipina immigrant raised in New York, Claire has built her career across financial services and data analytics, holding senior roles at American Express, Citi, and Visa before joining TransUnion. She is based in Hong Kong with her husband and three children.
(00:00) The Question No One Ever Asked Her
(00:47) Ten Years Since the TEDx Talk
(03:46) Having It All -- And Why That's the Wrong Question
(07:18) The COVID Dividend for Working Parents
(10:15) The Hidden Cost of a Global Career in Asia
(13:08) How She Actually Wrote Two Books
(17:22) The Soap Story That Inspired Everything
(19:22) Leading Without Losing Yourself
(25:59) Work-Life Balance Is a Theory -- Here's the Practice
(33:15) At Work You're Replaceable. At Home You're Not.
(43:37) Don't Forget the Parsley -- Making the Best of Everything
#59 Jean Sung - The World needs more Do-Tanks not Think-Tanks
2026/06/22
Jean Sung has spent over 20 years inside the rooms where Asia's wealthiest families decide what to do with their money.
Head of the JPMorgan Chase Foundation across 13 countries. Founder of J.P. Morgan Private Bank's Philanthropy Centre in Asia. Two decades of sitting across from ultra-high-net-worth individuals, multi-generational family offices, and some of the most powerful philanthropists on the planet.
And after all of it, her conclusion is uncomfortable.
Most of what we call charity isn't working.
Not because people don't care. But because the entire system was built on the wrong foundation. Donations that feel good. Band-aid solutions that never touch the root of the problem. Nonprofits running on passion with no performance metrics, no accountability, and no path to scale. Wealthy donors writing the same check to the same 20 organizations year after year and calling it impact.
What she's calling for is a complete restructuring of how philanthropy is practiced in Asia and beyond. Stop treating giving like charity. Start treating it like investment. Same rigor. Same accountability. Same demand for return. Because if you don't do well, you cannot do good.
The conversation goes deep on the gap between intention and action, why Asian philanthropic giving is vastly underestimated and almost entirely invisible, how the now generation of wealthy families is finally starting to deploy capital the right way, and why the world needs fewer think tanks and a lot more do tanks.
This is one of the most honest, challenging, and clear-eyed conversations I have had on this show.
I hope it changes how you think about giving.
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Guest — Jean Sung: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jean-k-sung-312b3338/
Jean Sung is the Executive Director and Head of The Philanthropy Centre, J.P. Morgan Private Bank, Asia Pacific. She founded the Philanthropy Centre for J.P. Morgan's private banking arm after spending eight years managing the JPMorgan Chase Foundation's corporate giving across 13 Asian countries. With two decades of experience advising ultra-high-net-worth individuals, multi-generational family offices, and global philanthropists, Jean is one of the most experienced and respected voices in strategic philanthropy in Asia. She serves on the boards of the Bai Xian Asia Institute, LinkREIT's Sustainability Committee, the McCain Global Leaders Advisory Council, and the UWCSEA Foundation, among others.
(00:00:00) The "Now Gen" and Why Jean Hates the Term Next Gen
(00:01:25) 20 Years, 13 Countries: Jean's Journey at JPMorgan
(00:03:45) Why People Give and Why That Needs to Change
(00:06:36) Band-Aid Solutions and the Mattress Story
(00:09:34) What Communities Actually Need vs. What Donors Think They Need
(00:14:57) How Jean Got the Job Running the JPMorgan Chase Foundation
(00:16:41) Rethinking Grants: From Finite Donations to Sustainable Investment
(00:24:38) What Do You Want Your Dash to Mean
(00:27:33) Why Your Foundation and Your Investment Portfolio Should Talk to Each Other
(00:38:11) Hands Up Not Handouts: The Danger of Dependency
(00:47:56) How Asian Families Think About Wealth, Succession, and Giving
(00:54:57) Think Tanks vs Do Tanks: The Gap Between Intention and Action
#58 Michael Campion - How Great Leaders Communicate Their Way to the Top
2026/05/26
I grew up shy, introverted, and terrified of public speaking.
A bookworm in Hong Kong. A wallflower who couldn’t hold a room. A kid who went into investment banking because that’s where smart people were supposed to go, not because it was right for me.
So I walked away.
Professional football. BBC radio. The Premier League. A microphone. A stage.
And somewhere along the way, the worst public speaker in the room became one of the most sought-after communication coaches in the world.
But here’s what I’ll tell you: it wasn’t talent. It was never talent.
It was one conversation with a stranger every single day, for years.
What I discovered through football, banking, 15 years on stage, and six years coaching some of the most senior executives on the planet is this: communication is not a gift. It is a skill. And most leaders are operating at seven out of ten of their potential without even realizing it.
The expertise is there. The knowledge is there. The years of experience are there.
But if you can’t make people feel something, none of it lands.
I sat down with Nick Day, CEO of JGA Recruitment Group and host of the HR L&D Podcast, for one of the most honest and wide-ranging conversations I’ve had on communication, leadership, and influence.
We go deep on public speaking, the art of listening, why preparation is the only thing that separates great communicators from average ones, and why in a world flooded with AI-generated content, the human touch has never been more valuable.
Nick and I unpack the real reason most presentations fail, why following your passion is terrible career advice, what every great leader he’s ever interviewed has in common, and the one question you should ask before you build your next deck.
This is one of the most practical and honest conversations I’ve been part of on communication and leadership.
I hope it changes the way you speak.
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This episode is from the HR L&D Podcast hosted by Nick Day.
Connect with Nick: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickday/
Learn more about JGA Recruitment Group: https://jgarecruitment.com/
I’m a Hong Kong-born, UK-based professional speaker, executive coach, and corporate trainer with over 15 years of experience on the global stage. Before stepping into this world, I worked in investment banking and played professional football, representing the Hong Kong national team and competing in the Premier League.
Today, I help senior leaders and high-performing teams unlock their communication potential. I’m also a Partner and Head of Corporate Training at Quinlan and Associates, working with organizations across Hong Kong, Singapore, London, and the Middle East.
My one-line thesis is simple: talent is practice in disguise.
(00:00) Why Communication Is the Skill Every Leader Is Missing
(01:26) Human First, Not Resource First
(02:23) From Banking to Professional Football, Michael's Story
(07:56) Talent Is Practice in Disguise
(09:35) Curiosity Beats Chasing Passion
(15:58) The Communication Gap Most HR Leaders Don't Know They Have
(21:07) Preparation Is the Only Thing That Earns Confidence
(23:41) The Art of Listening on Stage
(40:09) AI and the Rising Value of Human Connection
(44:38) Design Emotion, Not Slides
#57 Philipp Knuepfer - Why Experience is the New Luxury
2026/05/18
Philipp Knuepfer spent 21 years mastering luxury hospitality at one of the world's most iconic hotel groups.
General Manager in Boston. Area Vice President across Singapore, Taiwan, Vietnam, and the Philippines. A career built on white-glove service, five-star standards, and the kind of brand loyalty that takes decades to earn.
Then he walked away from all of it.
Not because it wasn't working. But because he could see where hospitality was going and it wasn't where most hotel groups were headed.
The traveler has changed. The expectations have changed. And the old formula marble lobbies, chandelier entrances, scripted service, brand prestige is quietly losing its grip on a new generation of guests who want something the traditional luxury hotel was never designed to give them.
Connection. Community. A reason to stay that has nothing to do with the bed.
What Philipp discovered after two decades at the top of global hospitality is this: when you turn off the light, every hotel room is the same. The room was never the product. It was always everything around it.
That insight is what led him to Sunset Hospitality Group, a 360° lifestyle company that started with beach clubs and restaurants and is now one of the most aggressive hotel brands on the planet as Chief Operating Officer of Sunset Hotels & Resorts.
Now he's building something from scratch. A global hotel brand called Mett. Thirty to forty properties over the next three to five years. Europe, Asia, the Americas. A model where guests don't just sleep in a hotel, they become part of a local community, a membership club, a wellness ecosystem, a living, breathing lifestyle experience that owns the full 24-hour cycle.
This conversation goes deep on the future of luxury hospitality, what modern travelers are really searching for, how AI fits into the human side of service, and what it takes to leave a 21-year career behind and bet on a vision.
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Guest - Philipp Knuepfer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philipp-knuepfer-mba-22437014
https://www.metthotelsandresorts.com/
https://www.sunsethospitality.com/
Philipp Knuepfer is the Chief Operating Officer of Sunset Hotels & Resorts, part of Sunset Hospitality Group a global lifestyle hospitality company operating across hotels, dining, daylife, nightlife, gaming, and membership clubs in over 28 countries. With more than 20 years of experience in luxury hospitality, including senior leadership roles at Mandarin Oriental Hotel Group across Asia, the US, and the Middle East, Philipp now leads the global rollout of the Met Hotel brand. He holds a hotel management degree from the International School for Hotel Business in Germany and an MBA from RMIT University in Melbourne, Australia.
(00:00) Every Hotel Room is the Same
(01:19) What Modern Luxury Guests Actually Want
(04:42) Why Sunset Hospitality Is Betting Big on Hotels
(07:59) Where Met Hotel Is Expanding Globally
(10:30) The Wellness & Longevity Shift in Travel
(17:12) Designing Spaces for Community & Connection
(26:04) AI in Hospitality Where It Helps & Where It Stops
(32:53) How Philipp Manages a Global COO Role
(37:33) Why He Left Mandarin Oriental for Sunset
(47:09) Owning the Full 24-Hour Guest Experience
#56 Louisa Robb - Don't Fit the Institution: One Executive's Journey From Finance to Finding Her Voice
2026/04/24
Louisa Robb grew up in a chaotic and creative household.
A dreamer father who never quite landed his visions. A mother pioneering her way through the Australian film and television industry. Dinner parties with actors. No financial safety net. No predictable path.
So she built one.
Economics degree. Hong Kong. Zurich. UBS. Managing Director. Global COO overseeing thousands of people.
She fit the institution. She wore the suit. She prepared, over-prepared, and prepared some more just to feel like she belonged at the table.
And for years, it worked.
But something kept pulling at her. The creative child who grew up watching her mother break barriers. The woman who kept asking: should we really have to earn the right to be ourselves?
What Louisa discovered after two decades at the top of global finance is this: culture is not a values poster on a wall. It is the set of behaviors people believe they must exhibit just to fit in.
And that costs everyone. Especially women.
The micro-injuries accumulate quietly. The promotions come without support. The networking happens on golf courses and in spaces that were never designed for you. And one by one, talented women disappear from the pipeline.
Louisa left banking to fix that. Not with more compliance. Not with more control. But with a mirror, a whiteboard, and tools that finally put a number on what everyone could feel but no one could prove.
This conversation goes deep on imposter syndrome, organisational culture, women in leadership, and what it really means to lead on your own terms.
One of the most honest and grounded conversations I have had on this show.
I hope it stays with you.
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Guest - Louisa Robb (https://www.linkedin.com/in/louisa-robb/)
Louisa Robb is the Founder and Managing Director of Lucella AG, a professional coaching and consulting firm based in Zurich, Switzerland. With over 20 years of experience as a senior executive in international finance, including roles as Managing Director and Global COO at UBS AG, she now helps organizations and leaders diagnose and shift organizational culture, develop executive capability, and unlock untapped potential. She is the creator of the Athena program, a year-long women's leadership cohort designed to help women identify who they are, what they want, and how to get it. Her tools include Human Synergistics culture measurement frameworks and the Japanese philosophy of ikigai. She works with investment banks, insurance companies, and major international organizations across Europe and beyond.
(00:00) Growing up creative in a world that rewarded conformity
(04:10) A filmmaker mother, a dreamer father, and the hunger for security
(06:41) Graduating into a recession and landing in Hong Kong
(09:07) Being the only woman on the desk and knowing when to walk
(12:37) Meeting a Swiss man on the Trans-Siberian Railway
(16:36) What it takes to rise through each stage of a finance career
(20:43) Micro-injuries and why women disappear at mid-career
(27:54) Imposter syndrome and the discipline of over-preparation
(33:46) Why she left UBS and what organizational culture really means
(37:07) The mirror: closing the gap between intent and impact
(44:35) Ikigai, the Athena program, and unlocking untapped potential
(59:34) Words to live by, life principles, and what she is most grateful for
#55 Nick Day - Are You Paying the "Fear Tax"? (The Hidden Cost of Playing It Small)
2026/04/08
Nick Day was driving his car half a mile from home.
On his way to pick up his daughter.
Half a second later, everything changed and his whole life turned upside down.
The person who showed up after the accident was someone he didn't recognise. Nick, an extrovert with a theatre degree. Loud. Social. Full of life. He closed the curtains and didn't leave his house for months.
He told himself it was out of respect. But when he got really honest, it was fear.
That was the beginning.
Years of struggle followed. His daughter was diagnosed with an eating disorder. His father, his hero, passed away. And through every one of those moments, fear showed up again. Different shape. Same game.
What Nick discovered is this: fear isn't the enemy. It's a signal. It points directly at the things that matter most.
And fear’s greatest disguise? Wisdom. It’s that quiet voice telling you to keep your distance. To play it safe. To play it small.
That voice isn't wisdom. That's fear in a suit.
Failure you can heal from. But regret lingers forever.
Where are you paying “The Fear Tax” in your life?
This is one of the most vulnerable and moving conversations I've ever had on this show.
I hope it resonates with you the way it did with me.
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Guest - Nick Day (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickday/)
Connect with me: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelxcampion/
Nick Day is the CEO and founder of JGA Recruitment Group, a B-Corp certified executive search firm specializing in Payroll and HR. An ILM Level 7 certified executive coach, author, speaker, and podcast host, he is the #1 Global Thought Leader in Payroll and one of the Top 10 HR Voices. His work focuses on the intersection of leadership, talent, mindset, and performance. Host of: The Payroll Podcast, The HR L&D Podcast, and The Mindful Paths Podcast. As the creator of The Fear Equation™ and B.O.L.D.™, he helps leaders transform fear and uncertainty into purposeful action. His book, The Payroll Pivot: From Invisibility to Influence was released in March.
(00:00) Opening proverb: the secret to lasting happiness
(02:18) The accident that changed everything
(07:05) Fear as a signal, not a stop sign
(09:37) The three-part fear equation explained
(14:50) The fear paradox and success anxiety
(21:01) The BOLD framework: a practical tool for courage
(26:52) Dealing with fear during a family crisis
(44:08) The fear tax: what inaction really costs you
(47:36) Finding joy in the struggle
(50:04) Nick's life philosophy: be more kind
(55:45) What Nick would regret most
(57:05) His father's final words: keep opening new doors
#54 Rasheed Shroff - Unlocking the Power of Authentic Communication (Entrepreneur Stories Interview)
2026/03/03
I had the opportunity to sit down with Rasheed Shroff from 'Entrepreneur Stories' for a conversation about authentic communication and the leadership edge it creates.
Recorded in front of a live audience, we explored the experiences that shaped my thinking, from investment banking to professional sport, entrepreneurship to podcasting, and how each environment forced me to refine how I show up under pressure.
One of the key themes we discussed was intentionality.
At 15, I realised talent alone would never be enough.
That shift in mindset changed the trajectory of my life.
I set myself a simple target - 1 conversation with a stranger every single day.
And I've been hitting the books on communication and psychology ever since.
“It takes effort to make things look effortless”
I hope find our conversation valuable as you seek to unlock new levels within yourself
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Connect with Rasheed Shroff: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rasheedshroff/
Entrepreneur Stories: https://www.youtube.com/@entrepreneurstories.podcast
#53 Andrew Li - Self Worth and Self Belief
2026/02/11
Andrew Li grew up feeling like an outsider.
At 12 years old, he was sent to boarding school.
Far from home. Far from family. Feeling like a fish out of water.
After graduation, reality hit fast. He couldn’t even land entry-level hotel jobs.
Not leadership roles. Basic ones.
Eventually, someone gave him a chance.
So he started at the bottom.
Making beds. Cleaning rooms. Doing the jobs nobody talks about.
No ego. Just work.
Over time, small wins stacked. Confidence grew through repetition, not shortcuts.
Years later, that same kid who felt out of place found himself leading one of the most iconic lifestyle brands in the world: Zouk Group.
From housekeeping… to the CEO’s chair.
Seriously incredible.
But success didn’t solve everything.
Imposter syndrome showed up.
Pressure multiplied.
The title got bigger, and so did the weight that came with it.
That’s when the real work began.
Separating who he is from what he does.
Learning to lead without ego.
Mastering the inner game.
Andrew’s story is a reminder that success is built quietly, long before anyone is watching.
It’s hard to beat the person who just keeps showing up.
Andrew did.
I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did.
Guest - Andrew Li (https://www.instagram.com/andrew_m_li/)
Connect with me: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelxcampion/
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#52 Vivian Siu - From Rock Bottom to Ivy League and the Macau Grand Prix
2026/01/08
Vivian Siu was born in Hong Kong. At age 6 she and her mother moved to New York in the hope of a better life.
At age 16 she lost her mother, and dropped out of high-school in the USA, moving back to HK to avoid being put in foster care …She then dragged herself up by the bootstraps, hitting the books, and somehow getting into and graduating from Columbia University
She went from bartending around HK and sleeping on friend’s couches with a small suitcase just to survive… to a successful career in investment banking.
As an escape from her harsh reality, she found joy in the underground video arcades of gritty Kowloon. She found community there and found that she was actually really good at the car racing games.
Many years later, she used that muscle memory from the arcade…to unbelievably making history as the first female and first LGBTQ Formula 4 driver ever to finish the Macau Grand Prix. All with just 6 months of experience and 4 real races in an actual racing car, and whilst holding down a job in Investment Banking.
Seriously incredible and the movie about her life so far will be shown on all Cathay Pacific flights starting in December
Vivian’s story is a reminder to all of us that when education and sport, meets a young person with drive… anything is possible.
She was not born into money. There has been no silver spoon to feed her opportunities. And when you don’t have opportunity fed to you on a silver spoon, you learn to lick it off knives.
She’s taken every sliver of an opportunity shown to her and really made her own luck. The odds were completely stacked against her achieving any of these things. And yet, here she is. Record breaker.
Ultimately, I’ve often said that “It’s hard to beat the person that refuses to give up.”
This woman has not, and will not give up. We all have something to learn from her.
I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did.
Guest - Vivian Siu (https://www.instagram.com/viviansiu28/?hl=en)
Apply to work with me: https://www.michaelxcampion.com/
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Watch the movie Zero to Macao (https://www.zerotomacao.com/) on all Cathay Pacific flights
(00:00) Preview
(00:41) Intro
(04:41) Moving to New York as a kid
(07:40) Losing her mum at 16
(10:07) The arcade racing game that kept her sane
(13:53) Rock bottom years
(17:19) GED, community college, obsessive studying habits
(20:57) Getting Into Columbia
(25:42) Ivy League grind
(30:33) Life After Columbia
(31:33) Graduating alone
(36:54) Survival mode mindset
(40:24) From arcade to track
(44:20) Mentors and momentum: the push that made it real
(45:02) The Macau Grand Prix experience
(47:38) Racing for her dad
(51:28) Releasing years of bottled up pain
(54:46) Zero to Macau
(57:52) Who this story is for
(01:00:01) Doing it for mum and dad vs doing it for yourself
(01:03:21) Why every lap feels like a win
(01:07:00) Inner game routines
(01:08:32) What’s next for Vivian
(01:10:11) Outro
#51 Robert Earnshaw - What Professional Sport Taught Me About Life, Discipline & Purpose
2025/08/30
It’s tough to separate your job title from your identity and self-worth. Here’s 2 great questions Robert Earnshaw asked himself upon retiring from the highest level:
“If I’m not a footballer…then who am I?”
“Now that it’s over, how do I want to show up, and who do I want to be for those around me?”
Transferable Lessons & Principles from our conversation:
- Obsession is necessary. The person who lies awake at night thinking about how to get better will win.
- You are more than your job. Do not confuse WHAT you do with WHO you are.
- Diversify your sources of happiness and self-esteem. Not every passion needs to be monetised. Keep something just for you.
"Earnie" has navigated the transition from professional footballer and public figure with more ease, grace, and optimism than most.
I caught up with him in Singapore, after we shared the pitch at the Soccer 7s Series to talk about the “inner game”:
But this episode isn’t just for athletes. It’s for anyone standing at a crossroads, wondering if there’s something more.
If you've ever felt the tension between who you were and who you’re becoming, this one’s for you.
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Connect with Robert: https://www.instagram.com/robertearnshaw/
Connect with me: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelxcampion/
Apply to work with me: https://www.michaelxcampion.com/
(00:00) Identity Beyond Football
(01:27) Playing in Singapore Soccer 7s
(03:31) First Impressions of Singapore
(04:35) Bringing Back the Somersault Celebration
(06:31) Playing with Joy vs Playing with Anger
(07:54) Football as Joy, Competition & Entertainment
(10:15) The Pure Emotion of Scoring Goals
(12:23) Life After Retirement & Reinventing Identity
(17:21) Coaching, Broadcasting & Public Speaking
(20:20) Building Life’s Boxes: Spiritual, Physical, Professional
(24:47) Chess, Curiosity & Lessons Beyond Football
(28:39) Talent is Practice in Disguise
(32:59) Transferable Lessons from Football to Life
(37:49) Visualization & Performing Under Pressure
(42:26) Mastery and the Process of Getting Better
(46:45) Discipline, Health & Contracts with Yourself
(53:35) Doing Things with Feeling & Full Commitment
(56:52) Patience, Consistency & Trusting the Process
(58:43) Overcoming Setbacks & Disappointment
(1:01:24) Did Robert Earnshaw Squeeze the Lemon?
(1:06:24) Sacrifice, Social Life & Family in Football
(1:09:13) Why Discipline Beats Motivation
#50 Matthias Weiskopf - Inside the Psychology of Luxury: The Inner Game of Branding
2025/07/29
Luxury isn’t about price tags or logos.
It’s about identity. Emotion. Desire.
And no one understands that better than Matthias Weiskopf.
As a brand strategist who’s worked with some of the world’s most iconic names, from Ferrari to Porsche to McLaren, Matthias doesn’t just market luxury.
He dissects it. Rebuilds it. And redefines what it means to want something that, frankly, no one needs.
In this conversation, we go far beyond product design or campaign strategy. We explore how luxury brands build meaning across cultures, especially in Asia where perception, status, and symbolism shift from one market to the next.
But this episode isn’t just about business. It’s about why we chase certain dreams. What it means to create aspiration without alienation.
If you’ve ever wondered why a handbag can make someone feel invincible or why storytelling might be the last true luxury — this one’s for you.
And if something here sparked a new perspective, let us know in the comments.
Stay curious.
Connect with Matthias: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthiasweiskopf/
Connect with me: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelxcampion/
Apply to work with me: https://www.michaelxcampion.com/
(00:00) Preview
(01:25) The Psychology of Luxury
(04:22) The Five Tiers of Luxury Customers
(07:48) McLaren vs Ferrari: Heritage, Status & Recognition
(10:51) Emotional Utility and the Experience of Luxury
(12:20) Status Signaling and Relationship Dynamics
(14:14) Why Ferrari’s Brand Is Irreplicable
(17:36) Hyper-Local Strategy for Challenger Brands
(19:15) Managing Retail Across Asia
(23:06) The “Money Can’t Buy” Experience Strategy
(27:15) Understanding Customer Desires
(31:36) The Disconnect Between Product and Experience in Modern Luxury
(33:35) Jaguar's Rebrand Failure
(37:48) What Western Luxury Brands Get Wrong About Asia
(43:13) The Rise of Homegrown Brands
(47:14) Why Luxury is Not Just About Price
(49:20) The Power of Storytelling in Branding
(50:22) Matthias’ First Luxury Purchase and the Psychology Behind It
(55:58) Porsche’s Ecosystem and Experience-Driven Strategy
(01:02:28) Defining Real Luxury
(01:08:02) Matthias’ Career Leap: From McLaren Exec to Entrepreneur
(01:11:32) Building Something That’s Yours: The Solopreneur’s Advantage
(01:14:49) Finding Joy in Teaching and Consulting
#49 James Riley - Life Beyond the C-Suite
2025/05/27
James Riley spent decades leading one of the world’s most prestigious hotel brands.
But this episode isn’t about boardrooms or five-star service, it’s about what happens after 40 years of executive employment.
When James stepped down as CEO of the Mandarin Oriental Hotel Group, he didn’t slow down - he rewrote the rules. From abseiling Angel Falls with limited eyesight to backing mission-driven startups, he’s chasing meaning over metrics.
We talk about reinventing identity, letting go of legacy, and designing a life filled with purpose, not pressure.
If you’ve ever asked yourself “what’s next?” after success, this conversation is for you.
Let us know what resonated in the comments.
And if you’re enjoying the show, subscribe and stay curious.
Connect with James Riley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-riley-8442011
Connect with me: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelxcampion/
Apply to work with me: https://www.michaelxcampion.com/
(00:00) Why James Riley Walked Away from a 41-Year Career
(01:43) Trekking Angel Falls with Failing Eyesight
(08:42) Retirement Guilt: “I’m Still Never Home”
(10:22) James’ Insights on Leadership and Managing Time
(14:50) What James Is Focused On Now
(17:27) What Attracted James to Oberoi Hotels
(21:57) Backing Mission Driven Startups
(27:54) VoiceMap: An App That Can Replace a Tour Guide
(34:13) Launching a Podcast for Travelers
(39:16) The Best ChatGPT Prompt to Explore Cities
(45:27) A Pattern That Follows Him Through Life
(49.07) Durham University Fundraising
(51:53) Family, Cold Swims, and the Next Big Adventure
#48 Bastien Le Coz & Gabriella Zavatti - How We Built a Global Luxury Brand Without Sacrificing Family Life
2025/05/06
Founded in 2015 by Bastien Le Coz and Gabriella Zavatti, Palatino Hospitality is a global leader in luxury hospitality, serving some of the world’s finest hotels — from Four Seasons, to One & Only, to Bulgari.
But this episode isn’t just about building Palatino Hospitality and their recent merger with La Bottega. It’s about what happens when your life partner also becomes your co-founder.
When every creative idea, late-night pitch deck, and long-haul flight is shared with the same person you’re raising a family with.
From the outside, Bastien Le Coz and Gabriella Zavatti might look like just another power couple.
But once you sit with them — as I did for this episode — you’ll hear the story behind the brand.
We go deep into:
- What it takes to scale without losing your relationship
- The secret power of co-preneurship (and where it can break you)
- Why creativity is the ultimate business strategy
- How to sell without selling — by staying radically authentic
- The quiet rituals that build lasting hospitality brands
This one’s for anyone building something — a brand, a business, or a life — and wondering if it’s possible to do it all without burning out or selling out.
I hope this conversation moves you as much as it moved me.
And if it did, leave a comment below and let us know what resonated.
Connect with me: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelxcampion/
Apply to work with me: https://www.michaelxcampion.com/
Connect with Gabriella on IG: @gabriellazav
Connect with Bastien on IG: @Bastienlecoz
Follow Palatino on IG: @palatinohospitality
Website: https://www.palatinogroup.com/
Palatino in the news: Merger with La Bottega
https://www.unstageetapres.fr/
(00:00) Preview and Intro
(03:20) Blending Family, Work, and Travel
(07:05) The Importance of Presence in Work and Life
(10:02) Helping Clients (and Themselves) Disconnect
(13:08) Complementary Strengths & Co-Leadership
(16:23) Scaling the Business Without Losing the Soul
(22:13) Creativity as a Strategic Advantage
(26:23) Launching Before You're Ready
(30:21) The Sustainability Pivot & Market Timing
(33:49) Turning Clients Into Catalysts for Growth
(36:35) Learning from Failure Without Worshipping It
(39:36) What’s Next for Palatino
(40:03) Designing Travel for Transformation
(46:00) Storytelling, Rituals, and the Future of Luxury Hospitality
(49:50) Personalization vs. Standardization in Guest Experience
(52:31) Living the Brand: Family, Travel, and Hospitality
(56:31) Leadership Principles: Empathy, Kindness, and Excellence
(01:02:21) Building a Purpose-Driven Business
(01:08:23) Lessons from Family, Mentors, and the Next Generation
(01:07:00) The 5:1 Rule: Building a Culture of Positive Feedback
(01:08:23) Top Business Lessons from Experience
(01:10:03) Wisdom from Family: Gratitude and Quiet Strength
(01:13:55) Teaching Courage and Creativity to the Next Generation
(01:17:00) Final Reflections: Empathy, Mentorship & Social Impact
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Great podcast!
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More people need to hear Michael’s voice! Outstanding work!!
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Thoughtful and Genuine
Michael is a very natural and thoughtful interviewer, he has an amazing ability to get through the veneer and pull out what makes his guests tick - pu...
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