How Fitting® is the podcast for slow fashion designers who want to create clothing and grow a business that fits their customer, lifestyle, and values. In biweekly episodes, hear how relatable fashion entrepreneurs (the kind who run their businesses from kitchen tables and cutting tables, not boardroom tables) navigate the fashion industry with integrity and define success based on their own principles.
In each conversation, host Alison Hoenes (a freelance women’s apparel patternmaker) explores the things that all slow fashion business owners experience: the vulnerability of launching something new, the deeply empathetic process of designing clothes that fit a niche market, the challenges of pursuing both financial and environmental sustainability, the late nights of reckoning with your values that make you consider shutting the whole thing down, and the rewarding moments that make it all worth it.
In addition, hear from experienced fashion industry resources that are helping indie designers make a difference and a profit – like low MOQ factories, fashion marketing and business coaches, or sustainable fabric suppliers.
How Fitting® offers validation that you are not alone in your fashion entrepreneurship experience, ideas to try on in your fashion business to create a better fit, and a curious look into how other slow fashion brands are making it work. How fitting is that?
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Is Your Sizing Actually Good For Your Customer or Just Your Brand with Rick Levine and Steven Heard of ApparelWerks
2026/02/03
We think that offering different sizes is serving our customers, but is it actually? Does standard sizing make it easier for the customer or does it just make it easier for the brand? Rick Levine and Steven Heard have thoughts.
They’ve each run multiple manufacturing businesses in different industries and are currently partners of the made-to-measure development and manufacturing studio ApparelWerks. No matter the business, their goal with product design, fit, and sizing has been the same: make each customer insanely happy. It impacts how they see production, technology, entrepreneurship, craftsmanship, customer relationships, and more. In episode 130, we cover it all.
Steven and Rick were introduced when Rick was looking into body scanning for a problem his daughter, an engineer, was trying to solve. "There's a guy in Portland who's been making customized clothing for decades. He knows all about scanners and measurement."
They discovered a shared appreciation for manufacturing technology, a fascination with old sewing machines, and a view that tech is only a means to an end; their past businesses were focused on making customers happy. Both were also looking for something new and interesting to do, and the result was starting ApparelWerks, a manufacturing and product development studio in Portland creating made-to-measure clothing.
Steven Heard has decades of experience making clothing, starting at the Levi Strauss factory on Valencia Street in San Francisco, at a time when all patterns and samples for the company were still created there. He was a senior pattern-maker for Levi's Dockers brand, and went on to spearhead the world’s first large-scale bespoke jeans production, leveraging body scanning technology to craft custom jeans for thousands of consumers. He founded pattern service bureau Clinton Park, doing garment development and pattern work for numerous national and start-up brands, and developed a reputation for being the go-to patternmaker for denim development. He went on to found Japanese-inspired San Francisco denim and workwear brand Dillon Montara in 2014, and was the development and manufacturing partner behind Portland's Ship John brand.
Rick Levine is the engineering black sheep in a family of artists. His father was a ceramist and designer, making and using tools to create mid-century ceramic tile and lamps on a large scale. Rick spent a lot of his time growing up around clay and machinery. Rick started his career as a producer and editor for film and video, and stepped sideways into programming tools and user interfaces for computer systems. He worked at Sun Microsystems early in its existence, and then at a series of start-ups. In 2006, Rick followed his interest in manufacturing automation to found chocolate brand Sun Cups. He repurposed industrial-scale chocolate techniques to create artisanal, organic, nut-free chocolates and made them available in thousands of stores. In 2013, he and his brother, designer Neil Levine, founded sock company XOAB, focusing on creating comfortable socks with a broad palette of Merino wool and Supima® cotton colors. They created a domestic supply chain, and used modified knitting machines and pattern analysis software to take new designs from sketch to shelf in less than a week, a capability unique in the hosiery industry.
This episode explores:
Fitting the customer
Why the garment won’t fit unless you’ve had a conversation with the customer
The difference between solving fit for your brand versus solving fit for your customer
The advantages and limitations of 3D body scanning for apparel development
How they know when they got the fit right
Fitting the lifestyle
Scaling on-demand production
How one-piece production flow changes the way you see efficiency
How Rick’s and Steven’s background lead to their perspectives on manufacturing
The tools Rick and Steven use to systemetize custom clothing
Fitting the values
Why there’s value in both craft and technology
Why Rick has a “healthy disrespect” for tools
People and resources mentioned in this episode:
ApparelWerks website
Dillon Montara website
ApparelWerks Instagram
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Maintaining Creative Habits and Values As the World Changes with Bergen Anderson of Lilla Barn
2026/01/21
As people in creative fields, many of us can look back and see how our activities and interests as a child led to the work we do today. We may have grown up and grown out of clothes along the way, but some things never change. Creativity and other values that are important to us show up in our adult life through our fashion businesses.
This is certainly true for today’s guest Bergen Anderson. Her brand, Lilla Barn, makes colorful and sustainable clothes for kids and grownups alike.
As a lifelong sewist, Bergen Anderson started Lilla Barn in order to make colorful, genderless, sustainable, baby clothes that stand out in a world of pinks and blues. In the last 12 years, she has grown her brand to include grown-up clothes, accessories, and homegoods including a storefront/studio in Andersonville, Illinois.
Inspired by visual artists who play with color and texture, her work is intended to bring joy, creativity, and individuality into everyday life. Bergen enjoys exploring the overlaps between traditional craft ("women's work"), modern textiles, and functional fine art. As a slow fashion advocate, she believes the personal is political and that our consumer habits and creating habits should align with our values.
This episode explores:
Fitting the customer
Why Bergen designs what she likes even though she is technically no longer her own target customer
Bergen’s process for patternmaking and sizing and its pros and cons for fit
Fitting the lifestyle
The hardest part about hiring a small team for Lilla Barn
The extent that creative habits are intertwined with personal and business lifestyles
The projects Bergen wants to take on in her business once she has a bigger team
How opening a retail space changed Lilla Barn’s business model
Fitting the values
How to communicate brand values in a way that is meaningful and relevant even as the broader culture changes around us
People and resources mentioned in this episode:
Lilla Barn website
Lilla Barn email
Lilla Barn Instagram
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Breaking From the Fashion Calendar with Intention with Dana Mortada of dal the label
2026/01/06
Fashion expects a lot from designers. It expects you to release new collections at a set seasonal schedule. It expects you to just know the right people and know where to find a good production partner (because as you know, some of the best factories don’t even have websites). It expects you to show up on social media to sell. These expectations can run your life if you let them.
Dana Mortada doesn’t let them. She gave up the traditional wholesale calendar and the pressure that came with it. Her four-year-old brand, dal the label, now releases new capsules on a flexible schedule that works for her. In episode 128, Dana shares how far she’s come by following intention instead of expectations.
dal the label is a California womenswear brand redefining modern luxury through elevated essentials. Founded by designer Dana Mortada, the brand focuses on timeless, ethical pieces designed in Los Angeles and made to be worn again and again. Each collection reflects a commitment to intentional design, quality craftsmanship, and a slower, more thoughtful way of dressing.
This episode explores:
Fitting the customer
Why simple designs are harder to fit
The marks of craftsmanship that Dana designs for and looks for in clothing
Fitting the lifestyle
Why Dana doesn’t want the traditional fashion calendar to run her life and instead releases capsules whenever she is ready
What makes Dana say dal has come a long way since first launching in 2022
The biggest challenge Dana is trying to solve on the business side
Why Dana moved some of her production overseas
Fitting the values
How long clothes last depends on the designer and the consumer
How Dana answers the question of “does the world need another fashion brand?” based on her values
People and resources mentioned in this episode:
Dal the Label website
Dal the Label email
Dal the Label Instagram
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Why This Brand Launched Without Social Media and What They Did Instead with Maria Alejandra Alvarado of ZADIMA
2025/11/18
Changing algorithms, the constant time investment, and, with the rise of AI, even more content to compete with for customers’ attention make many of us want to avoid social media altogether. However, it can seem like a necessary evil. Isn’t every brand on social platforms? But what if staying off socials as a fashion brand isn’t just the right choice for your mental health as a founder, but also for your business strategy?
This is the choice that Maria Alejandra Alvarado has made for her luxury workwear brand ZADIMA. In episode 127, she shares how she’s connecting with people to market her brand instead of competing with algorithms. For Maria, it felt like a natural fit that aligns with her business.
María Alejandra Alvarado is a marketing leader with nearly 15 years of experience shaping brand and product launch strategies for global companies. For the past three years, she’s been building ZADIMA — a brand born from her desire to help modern professionals dress beautifully and intentionally, without adding more decisions to already full days.
Frustrated by the lack of color, personality, and quality in workwear, María set out to create pieces that combine great tailoring, elegant silhouettes, and luxurious Italian fabrics. Each garment is crafted from exquisite Italian deadstock textiles in a woman-owned atelier in Manhattan’s Garment District, designed to make women feel confident, polished, and effortlessly themselves.
This episode explores:
Fitting the customer
The smart questions Maria asked while gathering customer research
The ways that knowing her customer helped Maria make decisions about fabric, designs, and colors
Fitting the lifestyle
How the lifestyle of the Zadima customer shaped the marketing strategy
The practical ways Maria generates word-of-mouth referrals
How Maria represents her brand as the founder
How Maria prioritizes tasks in her business
Fitting the values
Why Maria decided to produce her collection in NY
How Maria uses AI tools in alignment with her relationships and quality-focused business values
People and resources mentioned in this episode:
ZADIMA website
ZADIMA email
Maria’s LinkedIn
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Intentional Fashion Looks Different as a Founder with Lucielle Salomon of ARIMMA
2025/11/04
In slow fashion, we like being intentional with our clothing choices. We want our wardrobes to be aligned with what we care about and how we live. It is a reassuring kind of intention. Then there is another type of intention that affects fashion founders – the way we intend things to go. We have intentions for the launch, product development timelines, or what it means to be a good founder.
But as anyone who has started a business knows, things don’t always go quite as intended. So how do we balance intention and reality? In episode 126, ARIMMA founder Lucielle Salomon shares how she moved past her assumptions about what it means to be a founder and finally launched her brand. Through the process, she now sees fashion in a new light.
Lucielle Salomon is a Dominican-American founder, fashion editor and storyteller advocating for a slower, more soulful approach to style and business. With a background in journalism and a sharp editorial eye, she blends thoughtful design with meaningful storytelling, inviting her audience to dress with intention, find beauty in the everyday and redefine what success looks like through a values-first lens.
She is the founder of ARIMMA, an on-demand women's wear brand rooted in romantic silhouettes, timeless details and environmental responsibility. Every piece is crafted only after it's ordered—minimizing waste, reducing overproduction and creating space for clothing to be made with care. ARIMMA designs use natural or low-impact materials and are constructed with durability, emotion and longevity in mind.
Through her Substack newsletter, Woven Letters, and growing digital platforms, Lucielle shares a curated blend of sustainable fashion finds, emerging brands, and everyday rituals—from what she's wearing to how she's slowing down. As a mother of two, she also explores the intersection of creativity, motherhood and entrepreneurship, offering a rare behind-the-scenes look at building a conscious business without burning out. Lucielle is available for interviews, panels, collaborations, and essays that explore the future of fashion, identity-driven entrepreneurship and intentional living.
This episode explores:
Fitting the customer
How Lucielle follows feelings, not trends with her designs
The part of development that was the biggest challenge for Lucielle
Fitting the lifestyle
What Lucielle would do differently now if she was starting over
How our mindset can hinder or help us in entrepreneurship
What Lucielle thought a good founder lifestyle should look like and why that didn’t work for her
Why Lucielle didn’t go all out for the launch
Fitting the values
How becoming a founder changed what Lucielle values about fashion
Why Lucielle reached out to factories before she even had designs
People and resources mentioned in this episode:
Arimma website
Arimma Instagram
Lucielle’s Instagram
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Consistency or Newness: What It Takes To Get To A Decade In Fashion Business with Erin Gray Morton of erin gray
2025/10/21
Newness builds excitement, but consistency builds trust. Which one will get your brand to a decade in business? Erin Gray Morton just celebrated ten years of her gold-filled jewelry and premium tee shirt line erin gray. The brand has grown to being stocked in over 800 boutiques. To get there, Erin and her team have prioritized relationships while figuring out how to make each wholesale show feel new with basics products that are more timeless than trendy.
In episode 125, hear the ways erin gray builds trust with customers and the boutiques that buy wholesale from them, how Erin keeps herself from a lifestyle of overworking even when she loves what she does, and how Erin structured the business model and pricing from the very beginning to allow giving back to causes she values.
erin gray is a female-owned and operated brand from Atlanta designing elevated essentials with a touch of luxury. Their customers primarily love them for two things: their cult-favorite Pima cotton tees and refined tops that offer high-end style at accessible prices and our 14k gold-filled waterproof jewelry, which wears like solid gold without the high cost.
Erin built this brand from the ground up and the brand is now featured in more than 800 boutiques nationwide. Giving back is our heart - Erin lost her mother to cancer, so supporting cancer research is at the core. The atmosphere at erin gray's Atlanta warehouse is fun, respectful, flexible, family-oriented and customer-focused. The team gets things done without compromising the things and people who matter to them the most.
This episode explores:
Fitting the customer
The ways erin gray builds trust with customers and the boutiques that buy wholesale from them
The effort that went into developing the best basic white tee (because simple is never simple!)
How erin gray creates newness at each wholesale market with a basic, timeless product
Why Erin thinks wholesale shows will never go away
Fitting the lifestyle
What they did differently when erin gray introduced apparel alongside their jewelry line
How Erin keeps herself from overworking even when she loves what she does
How Erin has expanded her team over the years
The benefits of a long wholesale design and development calendar
What to do when you get bored of your product before it even launches
Fitting the values
How Erin structured the business model and pricing from the very beginning to allow giving back to causes she values
Ways your business can give back to causes you care about beyond cash donations
Why customer service is so important for the success of erin gray
People and resources mentioned in this episode:
Erin Gray website
Erin Gray email
Erin Gray Instagram
Erin’s LinkedIn
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Listening to Your Body in Entrepreneurship and Fashion with Victoria Lister of Hummingbird Pie
2025/10/07
In an industry obsessed with outward appearances, what if we made decisions by listening to our body and not just looking at it? If clothing choices came from a place of self-awareness, how would that change the way we design products and run fashion businesses? Victoria Lister approaches her work from this perspective. In episode 124, she shares what made her start listening to her body and what that has meant for her underwear and lounge brand Hummingbird Pie.
Victoria is the founder and owner-operator of Hummingbird Pie, an Australian-based, micro-business that has supplied women with luxe, everyday basics since 2015. The business was born from Victoria's personal quest to solve the problem of thigh chafing without resorting to shapewear – a challenge that led her to create Hummingbird Pie’s flagship product, long-legged underpants known as ‘Longerpants’.
Today, the range has expanded to include outer as well as underwear, designed to help women of all ages, stages, shapes and sizes to feel at home in themselves – not reshaped, but supported, relaxed and free to be. Hummingbird Pie fits in and around Victoria's work as a researcher, with the help of her wonderful husband and two dear friends who work casually on different aspects of business, and local suppliers and manufacturers.
This episode explores:
Fitting the customer
How the Hummingbird Pie target customer has expanded since the start of the business
The mindset that unites Hummingbird Pie customers
What makes Hummingbird Pie garments different
The relationship Victoria wants her customers to have with Hummingbird Pie clothes
Fitting the lifestyle
The challenges of scaling a cottage business
Why new products don’t always start with design
What gave Victoria the courage to start a business
The behind the scenes lifestyle that supports Victoria’s business
Fitting the values
How Victoria’s self-awareness and valuing her body influences her approach to design
Why Victoria prefers working with other collaborators instead of learning how to do everything herself
People and resources mentioned in this episode:
Hummingbird Pie website
Hummingbird Pie email
Hummingbird Pie Instagram
Victoria’s LinkedIn
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The Time And Resilience It Takes To Launch A Fashion Brand with Gabriela Garcia Olivo of Gabriela Michele
2025/09/23
We talk about how timeless fashion lets us build sustainable wardrobes. What if the benefits of timelessness weren’t confined to our customers’ closets? Today’s guest, Gabriela Garcia Olivo, found that her timeless designs helped her build a more sustainable business. Her story is one of resilience, refinement, and reflection. In episode 123, she shares her perspective on what it takes and why it is worth it to build a fashion brand.
Gabriela Garcia Olivo is the founder and creative director of Gabriela Michele, a timeless women’s clothing brand inspired by the elegance of 1950s fashion and the captivating spirit of Latin American women. Born from a desire to celebrate feminine sophistication in everyday life, her brand merges vintage glamour with modern craftsmanship. With a commitment to quality, her collections feature natural fabrics, tailored fits, and thoughtful details that invite women to embrace their confidence and femininity.
This episode explores:
Fitting the customer
Why Gabriela does not use herself as the fit model even though she is her target market
The surprising demographic of women who resonate with her brand
The two things that have made the biggest difference in finding her customers and growing the brand
Fitting the lifestyle
How long it took from idea to launch
The aspects of vintage style that Gabriela has carried into her designs
Why Gabriela paused her brand twice since initially launching
What kept Gabriela going when sales were slow and burnout was looming
How Gabriela balances ambition with realistic expectations for her business
Fitting the values
How Gabriela found a factory and patternmaker that she trusts
How timeless style has led to a timeless business
People and resources mentioned in this episode:
Gabriela Michele website
Gabriela Michele Instagram
Gabriela Michele email
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Becoming a Designer of Supply Chains with Emily Harris of Mrs. Emily
2025/09/09
Emily Harris started out as a designer of clothes, but recently, she says she’s become more of a designer of supply chains. Over the fifteen years since starting her brand Mrs. Emily, Emily has produced her signature elastic-waist skirts in different ways – sewing them herself to order, working with a seamstress to stock a retail location, and now working with a fair trade mill and sewing studio to produce inventory. Her product has gotten even more beautifully simple, but the logistics have gotten far more complex.
In episode 122, Emily candidly shares how her target customer has grown as she and her business have, how her change in lifestyle required a change in manufacturing, and why play and personal style are necessities in her work and business.
Emily is a fashion designer, wife, and mom based in Champaign, Illinois. She studied fashion design at Southern Illinois University as a newlywed, and after graduating, she and her husband moved to New York City, where she worked for bridal designer Amsale Aberra. In 2010, Emily launched her own brand as a way to grow her design career while staying present with her young family.
After years of creating custom garments made to clients’ measurements, Emily developed a proprietary size chart and began manufacturing with small, family-run workshops in India and Bangladesh—workshops where she has personal relationships and deep trust. These teams produce extraordinary work and provide fair wages, healthcare, and childcare to their employees.
Now, 15 years into her brand and 14 years into motherhood, Emily continues to design every piece from her home studio. Her business has been shaped by a desire to live fully in all her roles: as a mother, a wife, and a designer.
This episode explores:
Fitting the customer
How her target customer has grown as Emily and her business have
How Emily decides what skirts to offer each season
How Emily balances the technical, quantitative feedback with personal, qualitative feedback as she designs
The ways that Mrs. Emily products have been simplified – and the work that has gone into doing so
Fitting the lifestyle
The lifestyle that inspired her signature elastic-waist skirts
How Mrs. Emily has changed as Emily’s daily lifestyle has changed over the years
Why Emily describes her role as being a designer of supply chains, not just a designer of clothes
What kept Emily going when everything in her business felt heavy and stressful
Fitting the values
What made Emily look at her product more seriously
The thing that really fuels inspiration
Why fair trade manufacturing is so important to Emily
Why play and personal style are necessities in Emily’s work and business
People and resources mentioned in this episode:
Mrs. Emily website
Mrs. Emily Instagram
Emily’s email
Mrs. Emily LinkedIn
Emily on How Fitting episode 9
Jackie of Motif Handmade on How Fitting episode 120
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Cutting Curves, Not Cutting Corners with Michelle Dwight of Aulieude
2025/08/26
Michelle Dwight has a notebook of what she calls weird and wonderful ideas. These ideas become convertible dresses and swimwear for curvy women. She started her brand, Aulieude, as a young designer wanting stylish, sustainable fashion. As her business has grown, she’s learned to apply her creativity to her business and not just her designs. As she’s grown too, she’s decided what things are and are not worth compromising.
In episode 121, hear how the Aulieude customer has grown up as Michelle has, how Michelle’s lifestyle has played into her business decisions over the years, and why business values are extra important when you are ready to scale.
As a girl, Michelle loved creating beauty from the found materials around her. Often shopping clothes to sew into something new and pattern making from intuition on her spotlight mannequin with A4 printer paper and sticky tape. She made platform shoes in woodwork, leather working, making corsetry, consistently fascinated by the construction of various mediums. Michelle would dress her sister and her friends up in her creations and emulate vogue editorial shoots with an old SLR camera and a vision.
Aulieude was founded in 2017 by our then 23 year old Designer, Michelle Dwight, making dresses from her bedroom. After studying at Sydney’s Fashion Design Studio and working in the Fast fashion industry, Michelle grew tired of flimsy garments and wanted to craft quality fits that would be loved over a lifetime.
Passionate about sustainability, she set out to create conscious clothing that didn’t compromise on style. In lieu of (‘Au Lieu De’) shapeless eco fashion on the market, Michelle took pride in carefully constructing flattering feminine silhouettes that celebrated a woman’s curves – designing adjustable and multiway pieces that tailor to the wearer’s unique shape and style.
Gaining a loyal following in the Market stalls of Sydney and Melbourne, Aulieude transitioned to selling exclusively online. They have since proudly expanded their size range, introduced original prints and formal wear as well as their most recent category, Swim! Every Aulieude garment is pattern made by hand in Michelle’s Melbourne Studio by the designer herself. Aulieude samples are made for Michelle’s curvy body and she fits each creation on models of various sizes to make sure that the quality and fit of the pieces are absolutely perfect for you.
Michelle, now 32, is continually inspired by the wonderful community of women Aulieude has garnered. Strong, caring women who own their femininity and deserve to be supported and empowered. Engaging with and serving this community brings so much joy and fulfilment that continues to inspire the collections to come.
This episode explores:
Fitting the customer
Who Michelle designs for
What Michelle learned about her customers at markets
The new “risky” category that Aulieude recently added
Why Alieude changed how its pieces are sized
Fitting the lifestyle
How much Michelle saved up to start Aulieude and fund her first production run
The big mistake Michelle made when she attended her first market
How Michelle’s lifestyle has played into her business decisions
The reason Michelle didn’t want to be the face of Aulieude initially and what changed her mind
How Michelle has grown as her business has
Fitting the values
Why values are super important when you are ready to scale your business
An aspect of sustainability that many fashion founders overlook
Why Michelle travels to visit her factory (it is NOT to check in on production)
People and resources mentioned in this episode:
Aulieude website
Aulieude Instagram
Aulieude email
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Why Handwoven Fabrics Are More Relevant And Easier For Independent Designers To Get Made Than Ever Before with Jackie Corlett of Motif Handmade
2025/08/12
In today’s world, technology has woven its way into nearly every aspect of our lives and work. The fashion industry is always looking for ways to make things faster and automate work that always used to be done by humans – but not Jackie. She’s been working with hand weavers in Bangladesh for over three decades and is more passionate about the future of fair trade, hand-crafted fabrics than ever. Jackie teaches designers how to design their own handwoven fabrics and helps them get their textiles made through her business Motif Handmade.
In episode 120, Jackie shares how designing your own handwoven textiles is more accessible to you as an independent designer than you might realize, how she’s seen fair trade sourcing change lives, and the value that threads through all of Jackie’s work.
Jackie Corlett is the founder of Motif Handmade, a Brit who swapped the rolling hills of England for decades in vibrant Bangladesh, and now calls the wide-open prairies of Illinois home. As a textile designer, Jackie’s lifelong passion is for handcrafted fabrics and the remarkable artisans who bring them to life. Over the years, she’s helped students, designers and brands weave artisanal goods into their collections, creating beauty with purpose.
Today, through her course KIND FABRIC, Jackie’s mission is to empower designers with the skills and confidence to develop their own fair trade certified, custom fabrics and finished goods. She believes sourcing can be 100% transparent, giving you 100% peace of mind. From fibre to fabric to finished product, Jackie champions a world where creativity isn’t just about making things ... it’s about making a difference.
This episode explores:
Fitting the customer
Why handwoven textiles are more accessible to you as an independent designer than you might realize
The two big shifts that have accelerated the demand and accessibility of fair trade textiles over Jackie’s career
Fitting the lifestyle
What captured Jackie’s interest back in 1989 that started her on the path towards the work she is doing today
How fair trade sourcing changes us as designers
How long it takes to design your own handwoven fabrics and get them made
How the MOQs and cost of handwoven fabrics compare to other fabric options
Fitting the values
The thing that matters most to Jackie in her work
Why creating products with integrity is easier now than ever before
The ways that Fast Fashion mindsets creep into our work
The real impact of fair trade
People and resources mentioned in this episode:
Motif Handmade website
Motif Handmade Instagram
Jackie’s email
Jackie’s LinkedIn
Kind Fabric course
Previous How Fitting guests who use Motif fabrics in their collection: Mrs. Emily and Glean & Grace
Cyclo recycled fiber yarns
Plaidmaker plaid design tool
Future Fabrics Expo
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Recreating the Luxury & Legacy of Vintage Textiles with Christine Lindebak of Lindy Lindy
2025/06/17
Luxury doesn’t always look like designer clothes, high heels, and a “dream” fashion job in NYC. Sometimes it looks more like quiet morning moments getting ready for a big day, hand-stitched embroidery on a vintage table linen, and barefoot commutes to a home office in a Spanish apartment. Christine Lindebak has always appreciated these small details. With her bridal loungewear brand, Lindy Lindy, she has leaned into these details even more. Each piece is crafted using vintage textiles that share a luxurious story of their own.
In episode 119, hear why her lounge and sleepwear designs were a perfect fit for brides, how Christine’s identity and lifestyle massively changed when she quit corporate, and the ways that Christine has considered scaling that align with her values.
Christine Lindebak is a fashion industry veteran, having worked for Emilio Pucci, Mulberry, and Alexis Bittar. She is the founder of Lindy Lindy, creating bespoke homewear from vintage Spanish linens for brides seeking one-of-a-kind getting-ready attire. Christine is also the force behind Sewing and the City, selling fashion sewing patterns online and in shops around the globe and inspiring people of all ages to sew their own clothes.
This episode explores:
Fitting the customer
Why the bridal loungewear market organically fit Lindy Lindy
How Lindy Lindy’s niche made marketing easier for Christine
How Lindy Lindy pieces are sized
Christine’s approach to pricing her pieces
Fitting the lifestyle
How Christine landed her first wholesale partnership
Why Christine quit her “dream” career in luxury retail
How Christine’s identity and lifestyle massively changed when she quit corporate
Fitting the values
The reason behind Christine’s premium sewing construction choices
How the textiles themselves shape Lindy Lindy designs
How Christine’s values play out in the day to day operations of Lindy Lindy
The ways that Christine has considered scaling that fit her values
People and resources mentioned in this episode:
Lindy Lindy website
Lindy Lindy Instagram
Sewing In The City website
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Designing A Life & Business You Love (Even Through Change, Loss, and Challenges) with Doug Phillips and Liz DeBraber of Conscious Clothing
2025/06/03
Rose and Doug Phillips asked: “how can we spend every day, together, doing what we love?” Their answer was Conscious Clothing. For two decades they built their business on this premise - even building the gorgeous, sun-filled Michigan studio where their team of ten designs and makes each piece of organic and natural fiber clothing.
Things haven’t always been dreamy, though. As the brand grew, work started to creep into the weekends. The pandemic hit. Then Doug lost his life and business partner. But, the heartfelt vision for Conscious Clothing remained. In this interview, Doug and General Manager Liz DeBraber share how they’re intentionally restructuring the business for the sake of themselves, their team, and their customers.
Doug Phillips is the owner of Conscious Clothing, an organic and natural fiber clothing company based in the Grand Rapids Michigan area. While navigating the challenges of designing and manufacturing in the US for over 23 years against a flood of cheap clothing imports, a mission was born. Exemplifying how a better way is possible by supporting local and organic is better for people and the planet. Doug hopes everyone realizes their power to create change with the purchase power they have and the brands they choose to support.
This episode explores:
Fitting the customer
How Liz is completely revamping Conscious Clothing’s pattern library to better fit their customers
The process behind extending their sizing from XS-XL to XS-6X.
How their small team things about customer service
Fitting the lifestyle
How founders Doug and Rose built the business from the ground up to realize the life they wanted together
What they changed to keep the growing business from taking over their life
How a years-long season of grief forced Doug to make big changes in the business
Why sustainability is just as much about the lifestyle of the team than it is about the products they are making
How they are balancing R&D with production
Fitting the values
Why organic and natural fibers and made-in-USA production are important to Conscious Clothing
How the industry and consumer values about organic clothing has changed over the 20+ years they’ve been in business
Why Doug is happy that Conscious Clothing is not as unique as it once was
People and resources mentioned in this episode:
Conscious Clothing website
Conscious Clothing Instagram
Fox fiber® - breeder and grower of organic, naturally colored cotton
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Taking Smart Risks For The Family Business with Gina Kuyers & Margot Adams of Luxeire
2025/05/20
Work smarter, not harder. That is what the high achieving women who wear Luxeire’s technical tailored button-ups are doing and what mother-daughter co-founders Gina Kuyers and Margot Adams do in their business as well. (Okay, sometimes they are working smart and hard). In just five years, they’ve grown the brand to 7 figures. They’re self-funding the business and the growth hasn’t come without risks. They’ve learned to experiment quickly and have found what investments pay off for them and which don’t. Their whole business is built for problem solving.
In episode 117, Gina and Margot share how they’ve focused Luxeire’s marketing and ad strategy around what matters most to their customers, how they take risks without jeopardizing their family life, and why producing in New York city fits their business values.
Gina Kuyers: Co-Founder and CEO
The idea for Luxeire emerged from founder Gina Kuyers’ frustration with the discomfort and high maintenance of beautiful clothing. Gina, unable to find any brands that offered the perfect fit, decided to take matters into her own hands and create one. With a 20-year career and a PhD in school psychology, Gina had spent decades applying research to real-world problem solving. She used this expertise to identify a significant gap in the fashion industry: the lack of stylish, comfortable, and low-maintenance clothing that fits perfectly.
Motivated by her own experiences and the needs of countless others, Gina set out to create Luxeire. Gina’s meticulous approach to research and problem-solving has been instrumental in the development of Luxeire's unique product line. She has leveraged her analytical skills to source the finest materials and employ innovative design techniques that ensure each piece is both functional and beautiful. Luxeire’s wardrobe staples are a testament to Gina’s commitment to quality, comfort, and sustainability, offering a perfect fit for modern lifestyles. Luxeire stands as a testament to her dedication to solving everyday problems with elevated, practical solutions.
Margot Adams: Co-Founder and Head of Marketing and Sales
In December 2020, Margot Adams, Gina’s daughter, joined Luxeire as the dynamic head of marketing and sales. Serving as the driving force behind the brand’s direct-to-consumer launch, Margot's leadership has been instrumental in reshaping Luxeire’s market approach. Margot attended the prestigious Parsons School of Design in New York City, where she immersed herself in business design with a special focus on marketing and sustainability.
While at Parsons, she honed her creative skills and developed a keen eye for aesthetics and trends. Her time as a marketing assistant and stylist for Sarah Flint further enriched her understanding of the fashion world, allowing her to blend practical experience with academic knowledge. This background has been instrumental in shaping Luxeire’s brand identity, infusing it with innovative marketing strategies and a strong emphasis on sustainable practices.
Margot’s creative vision and strategic insight have been pivotal in elevating Luxeire's market presence, ensuring the brand resonates with contemporary consumers who value both style and sustainability. Her ability to merge creative artistry with business insights continues to be a driving force behind Luxeire’s success.
This episode explores:
Fitting the customer
Who the Luxeire customer is
The problems with classic tailoring that Gina and Margot set out to solve
How Margot focused Luxeire’s whole marketing and ad strategy around what matters most to their customers
Why it all started with a problem and one special fabric
Fitting the lifestyle
How Gina and Margot take risks without jeopardizing their family life
Gina and Margot’s vision for success
What Gina’s business plan looked like when she first started versus now
What has worked and not worked for Luxeire when it comes to hiring help
Fitting the values
Why producing in New York city fits Luxeire’s business values
What sustainability looks like in Luxeire’s products and business
People and resources mentioned in this episode:
Luxeire website
Luxeire Instagram
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The Benefits of Retail Experimentation and Collaboration For Independent Fashion Brands with Elizabeth Solomeina of Flying Solo
2025/05/06
If you’ve ever dreamed of having your products in stores but are hesitant to dip your toes into retail because of high overhead, lower wholesale margins, or lack of retail experience, Elizabeth Solomeina has a solution.
In episode 116, Elizabeth shares her refreshingly different approach to retail. Her multi-city retail space and press showroom, Flying Solo, is designed just for independent designers to grow their brands and community. It is a collaborative retail space where designers get to control how their collection is presented, get feedback directly from customers, and make higher margins without the traditionally long wholesale lead times.
Elizabeth Solomeina is the co-founder of Flying Solo, a revolutionary fashion retail and PR platform based in New York and Paris. With a background in design and entrepreneurship, Elizabeth has built one of the most influential independent fashion platforms in the world — supporting thousands of emerging brands over the years and redefining how fashion reaches the market.
This episode explores:
Fitting the customer
Who the Flying Solo customer is
How Flying Solo presents diverse designers, collections, fits, and sizing cohesively to customers
The future of retail amidst today’s gloomy retail headlines
Fitting the lifestyle
What Elizabeth and her team look in the designer they stock
How brands can best prepare for a successful retail experience
How creatives can thrive by working together
How Flying Solo’s retail model gives so much more freedom and flexibility to designers
Fitting the values
Why Elizabeth believes so strongly in the value of collaboration and community
The benefits of creative experimentation for designers
People and resources mentioned in this episode:
Flying Solo website
Flying Solo Instagram
Elizabeth’s LinkedIn
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SarahWatt 2025/04/06
Inspirational
Alison is an intelligent and inquisitive host who brings us amazing brand stories. It’s always a treat hearing the details that have shaped each journ...
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p.dad 2025/02/15
Super informative podcast!
This podcast is extremely informative on so many levels. Hearing other designers stories makes you feel not so alone, and always learning from their h...
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Amy Barnhart 2020/09/05
Interesting and informative
Love this podcast! I enjoy learning about different aspects of the fashion industry that I’m not as familiar with through Alison and her guests. Alis...
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shopdaph 2020/09/02
So informative and entertaining
Love the sincerity and transparency in this podcast. Great dive into the design background of brands and how their values drive their ultimate product...