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128 episodes
Language
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Chris McGheeExplicit
Yes
Date created
2020/08/11
Latest episode
2026/10/19
Average duration
100 min.
Release period
23 days
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20 Year Air Force Veteran, Blogger, (Apparently now a podcaster), Attorney, Tired of status quo culture that perpetuates cycles of abuse.
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Episode 127 - Failure is an Option with Tony Carr
2026/10/19
When the military talks about the cost of undermanned, overworked units, the conversation almost always turns to risk: what might break, what might crash, what could go wrong. In this episode, I sit down with Tony Carr, a retired Air Force lieutenant colonel, former squadron commander, and C-17 pilot who began his career as an F-15 crew chief, to ask whether that framing captures the whole cost. Drawing on our years on the flightline and in command, and on Tony’s time running large operations in corporate America, we explore how burnout is defined and measured, how temporary surges become permanent baselines, what it means to man a force for its worst day, and the culture behind the phrase “failure is not an option.”
Our conversation moves from pilot retention and normalization of deviance to recent strains on the force during the Iran conflict, and to the widening gap between the people doing the work and the institutions that depend on them. It matters because how leaders frame the cost of overwork shapes which decisions get made, which harms get counted, and who ends up carrying the bill. Read more of Tony’s writing on leadership and military affairs at The Radar: https://radarblog.substack.com
Episode 126 - Moral Injury MM
2026/10/07
I'm joined by retired Marine Dr. Michael McDowell to discuss his thoughts on moral injury.
Michael details his own experience with moral injury both personally and in his interactions with transitioning service members.
Episode 125 - Moral Injury w/ Abi Dorhosti
2026/09/22
I'm joined by Abi Dorhosti to discuss the concept of Moral Injury. We walk through the differences between moral injury and PTS and how both may manifest similarly, but the root of each is different. We also discuss how addressing the cause of moral injury is just as important (if not more) than treating the symptoms.
We also discuss different pathways for treatment that aren't one size fits all.
Episode 124 - Kevin Traw Debrief
2026/09/07
I'm joined by occasional frequent guest Kevin Traw to discuss his recent retirement from the corporate sector and lessons learned in hindsight about his military transition. Kevin also discusses leadership development outside the military, and how to function within teams with misaligned leadership doctrine.
Episode 123 - GeoBaching
2026/08/24
I'm joined by Chelsea Thomas, founder of Family in Flight, to unpack why families choose GeoBaching, the financial and bureaucratic hurdles that come with it, and the toll it takes on marriages, kids, and retention across the armed forces. We also dig into what support actually looks like for families living this reality, and where policy could catch up.
Learn more about Family in Flight's work at familyinflight.org.
Episode 122 - Wokeness w/ Ryan Sweazey
2026/06/19
Ryan Sweazey returns to the podcast for a wide-ranging discussion on leadership, promotions, dissent, whistleblowers, professional identity, organizational culture, and the forces that shape decision-making inside large institutions.
From fighter squadrons to Inspector General investigations, we explore the incentives, assumptions, and pressures that influence behavior, often in ways that are difficult to recognize while you're living them.
Somewhere along the way, we try to figure out what it means to be woke.
Episode 121 MIssion Alpha with Kristi Cabiao
2026/05/03
I'm joined by Dr. Kristi Cabiao to discuss her advocacy work around Tricare, military families, and all the nuts and bolts under the hood that many of us don't perceive.
Episode 120 - Dr. Buchanan
2026/04/20
I'm joined by Dr. Pamela Buchanan to discuss her experience working in emergency medicine, and the medical industry generally over the past 20+ years. While our lived experiences differ, we found common in ground as we viewed our respective professional backgrounds through the lens of mental health, burnout, boundaries, and systems seemingly designed for exploitation.
Episode 119 - Chris McGhee
2026/04/06
I'm joined by Chris McGhee to discuss professional and leadership development in the corporate sector. We compare that development against how the military develops leadership.
Episode 118 - Kevin Traw Buffet Episode
2026/03/23
This episode is a wide-ranging conversation with Kevin Traw, starting with the role of chaplains on the flight line and how their presence, trust, and nontransactional support shape maintenance culture and professionalism. From there, we move into military discipline and how commanders approach discharge decisions, including what they consider and what they are expected to ignore. We also walk through a scenario together, modeling the kind of back-and-forth that should exist between a commander and senior enlisted leadership in a healthy unit.
Episode 117 - Career Debrief with Elaina Kovnat
2026/02/16
In this episode, I’m joined by Elaina Kovnat, someone I supervised about 15 years ago during my time in aircraft maintenance. She shares her experiences across multiple work centers and leaders, and what daily life in the career field actually felt like.
This was a difficult conversation for me personally. I’ve known Elaina a long time, and hearing the pressure she faced reinforced how demanding maintenance already is and how that difficulty can increase for women in the workspace.
Content note: This episode includes discussion of workplace harassment and predatory supervisory behavior that some listeners may find distressing.
Episode 116 - Make Chaplains Great Again
2026/02/02
In December 2025 the Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth released a video and accompanying policy to rescind the DoD’s chaplain doctrine and replace it with a more Christian-centric framework. In this episode, I’m joined by Libby Alders to examine the “Make Chaplains Great Again” theme and what it suggests about rolling back religious pluralism in the military. We discuss how the chaplaincy has evolved to serve a diverse force; and why that evolution is now under political fire. The conversation explores what this debate means for service members, institutional neutrality, and the future of faith inside the ranks.
Episode 115 - Discharge Upgrades with Doug Smits
2026/01/19
I'm joined by MSgt(ret) Doug Smits a 20 year Air Force veteran and current 3L law student. We discuss the factors and facets of military discharges that many people are unaware of and the long term effects that discharges below Honorable can carry.
Episode 114 Give Directly
2025/12/21
This week, I am joined by myself, Chris McGhee, for a personal conversation about growing up in poverty, the shame that often accompanies it, and the hidden costs of being poor that go far beyond money. I also explain why this episode is part of a fundraising effort with GiveDirectly, which provides direct cash assistance to people living in extreme poverty.
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Episode 113 - Religion in the Military with Libby Alders
2025/12/08
Libby Alders joins me to explore how religion operates differently within the military, including the influence of Christian nationalism both inside and outside the ranks. We discuss moral injury, why theocratic structures fail, and the broader risks created when a military force is not emotionally or psychologically developed.
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nmj_AF_98-18 2024/04/08
Good Times
I was one of those listeners looking for the “positive” episodes. Great walk down memory lane.
batman5594 2022/02/05
Great stuff
Love the insight, be cool to hear your thoughts on CBM+ and how you think it’ll change the way Mx will change in the future.
Austin5264 2021/10/22
Pretty good.
Pretty good for a crew chef. Looking forward to the podcast growing more and pulling on a larger pool of guests.
Groot!!!! 2020/12/17
Great show
It’s a great show that digs deep into taking care of the AF member and maintainers
Thepodcastlistener3000 2020/08/20
Engaging Conversations
I have never been in the military, but these conversations are eye-opening for anyone! Hearing perspectives and personal stories on difficult topics, ...
mailman c 2020/08/11
Gonna be a good one
I am retired MSgt in the Air Force who spent my entire career in mxs. This is right up my alley, feel like I am at shift change.
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