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Matt and I get rabbit trailed early but finally get to the topic of pigeon shooting. Its a fascinating topic for me and this conversation only is a small beginning to the topic. Thank you to our sponsors Aspen Thicket Grouse Dogs aspenthicketgrousedogs.com Pine Hill Gun Dogs [email protected] Second Chance Bird dogs Wild Card Outfitters and Guide Service wildcardoutdoors.com Prairie ridge Farms prairieridgefarms.com Wing and Clay Magazine

John and I could obviously talk much longer but we kept it reasonable. He spends a good amount of time in the Dakota grasslands with his setters. Thank you to our sponsors Aspen Thicket Grouse Dogs aspenthicketgrousedogs.com Pine Hill Gun Dogs [email protected] Second Chance Bird dogs Wild Card Outfitters and Guide Service wildcardoutdoors.com Prairie ridge Farms prairieridgefarms.com Wing and Clay Magazine

Mike had me bring the microphones along to his open house at Haymarsh Hunt Club and recorded with a live audience. There were new and old friends taking a few minutes at the recording table. Thank you to our sponsors Aspen Thicket Grouse Dogs aspenthicketgrousedogs.com Pine Hill Gun Dogs [email protected] Second Chance Bird dogs Wild Card Outfitters and Guide Service wildcardoutdoors.com Prairie ridge Farms prairieridgefarms.com Wing and Clay Magazine

I publish every 5th Stories with Swanky here on the podcast. All the others are found on Patreon.com/BirdCamp I hope you enjoy The Old Man and the Boy and The Cat and the Cat Burglar.

I didn't get the mics out during the October Birdcamp or at Grumpy camp this year but wanted to relay the experiences and observations. Thank you to our sponsors Aspen Thicket Grouse Dogs aspenthicketgrousedogs.com Pine Hill Gun Dogs [email protected] Second Chance Bird dogs Wild Card Outfitters and Guide Service wildcardoutdoors.com Prairie ridge Farms prairieridgefarms.com Wing and Clay Magazine

Bob is a long time grouse hunter, dog trainer, and mentor. We put together a good set of questions and I really like these kinds of podcasts. Thank you to our sponsors Aspen Thicket Grouse Dogs aspenthicketgrousedogs.com Pine Hill Gun Dogs [email protected] Second Chance Bird dogs Wild Card Outfitters and Guide Service wildcardoutdoors.com Prairie ridge Farms prairieridgefarms.com

John is here to help you shop for that fine English shotgun to fit your taste. It was a great conversation. Find him at britishdoubles.com Thank you to our sponsors Aspen Thicket Grouse Dogs aspenthicketgrousedogs.com Pine Hill Gun Dogs [email protected] Second Chance Bird dogs Wild Card Outfitters and Guide Service wildcardoutdoors.com Prairie ridge Farms prairieridgefarms.com

A quick update from the opening weekend of grouse season, some out takes from Pyke Upland Kickoff, and a story from Guy de la Veldene.

A small episode about being safe and courteous this hunting season.

John and I kept this conversation short and informative about projects and progress in Michigans grouse woods. Thank you to our sponsors Aspen Thicket Grouse Dogs aspenthicketgrousedogs.com Pine Hill Gun Dogs [email protected] Second Chance Bird dogs Wild Card Outfitters and Guide Service wildcardoutdoors.com Prairie ridge Farms prairieridgefarms.com

There is a new hire this year at RGS and its Zach Evans filling a FCD position for the eastern Great Lakes. We keep it pretty well focused on RGS and the progress made on the large Federal forest systems here in Michigan. Thank you to our sponsors Aspen Thicket Grouse Dogs aspenthicketgrousedogs.com Pine Hill Gun Dogs [email protected] Second Chance Bird dogs Wild Card Outfitters and Guide Service wildcardoutdoors.com Prairie ridge Farms prairieridgefarms.com

Tom is one of the new owner operators at Prairie Ridge Farm. We talk about the experiences of hunting the farm and also the lessons learned from the first year of running a preserve. Thank you to our sponsors Aspen Thicket Grouse Dogs aspenthicketgrousedogs.com Pine Hill Gun Dogs [email protected] Second Chance Bird dogs Wild Card Outfitters and Guide Service wildcardoutdoors.com Prairie ridge Farms prairieridgefarms.com

Jeff wanted to get the word out about the new V3 dog vest and catch up on this falls plans. Of course there was plenty of BirdCamp shop talk as well. The GoFundMe link mentioned is here. https://www.gofundme.com/f/7zmz6-support-rachels-battle-against-breast-cancer/cl/s?attribution_id=sl:71e0677b-3f2b-4b3f-884e-c3adb3d17873&lang=en_US&utm_campaign=fp_sharesheet&utm_content=amp13_t1-amp14_t2-amp15_t1&utm_medium=customer&utm_source=copy_link&v=amp14_t2 Thank you to our sponsors Aspen Thicket Grouse Dogs aspenthicketgrousedogs.com Pine Hill Gun Dogs [email protected] Second Chance Bird dogs Field Armor fieldarmorusa.com Wild Card Outfitters and Guide Service wildcardoutdoors.com Prairie ridge Farms prairieridgefarms.com

Nate and I eventually get into the topic I wanted to focus on with him, habitat crossover. The things he looks for when scouting for deer are many of the same things we upland hunters take note of. Brushy edges, concealment, and food sources, are in the same value to the grouse as it is to the whitetail. It's no wonder we cross paths with hunters of other disciplines while pursuing game. This is a good birdcamp conversation and I hope you enjoy it. Thank you to our sponsors Aspen Thicket Grouse Dogs aspenthicketgrousedogs.com Pine Hill Gun Dogs [email protected] Second Chance Bird dogs Field Armor fieldarmorusa.com Wild Card Outfitters and Guide Service wildcardoutdoors.com Prairie Ridge Farms prairieridgefarms.com

I finally had Andrew on the podcast. He's one of the regulars that travel around Michigan shooting the SxS events. We mostly stayed on task. Thank you to our sponsors Aspen Thicket Grouse Dogs aspenthicketgrousedogs.com Pine Hill Gun Dogs [email protected] Second Chance Bird dogs Field Armor fieldarmorusa.com Wild Card Outfitters and Guide Service wildcardoutdoors.com